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binbou, do games w Overwatch 2 is now Steam's "worst game of all time"

I wish TF2 got the eSports treatment it deserved

ezures,

Honestly forcing competitive in tf2 was the worst thing to happen to it.

Naz,

I used to play Q2 competitively, so I’m a little opinionated:

Not all games are eSports-ready, nor do they need to be.

Why: eSports need to be fair. Everyone has to start at the same place, and the majority, if not all of the performance has to come from player skill.

E.g: Imagine modern football where certain players running on the field could just randomly teleport or fly, but most can’t.

Class-based (hero arena, etc) shooters are inherently unequal in the same way, because that’s the point of classes (e.g: Heavy having more HP than Scout, Spy being able to cloak and so on).

If you’re about to make the argument that “TF2/OW/LOL/WTFBBQ” requires plenty of skill despite the abilities/imbalance: save it.

There’s an enormous gulf between what the audience and casual players + enthusiasts perceive as being inside of an eSport and what’s actually going on mechanically on the top-level.

Players optimize and engineer the fun out of a game.

eSports players/pros engineer the game out of the game.

ashenblood,

Very strange argument. It seems like you’re bad at those games and created some elaborate theory to rationalize it. Class based games require just as much, if not more, skill than non-class based games. As the number of classes increases, the total amount of knowledge required and variety of techniques available also tends to increase.

Professional players do optimize the fun out of a game, but that’s totally unrelated to the point you were trying to make.

zalgotext,

If you’re about to make the argument that “TF2/OW/LOL/WTFBBQ” requires plenty of skill despite the abilities/imbalance: save it.

You know, normally this sort of statement would be followed up with some sort of rationale or explanation

TrismegistusMx, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

When it flops they’ll blame Americans too. Narcissists are incapable of assuming responsibility for their own failures.

11111one11111, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

I don’t want a fucking endless game I want a finished game for the price I pay at release that doesn’t require $3000 gpu to render the most obnoxiously detailed graphics of a game that has the fucking depth of mine sweeper.

OozingPositron, do games w Cyberpunk 2077 director thanks fans as the game hits a 95% positive review rating on Steam
@OozingPositron@feddit.cl avatar

People are so quick to forget.

youtu.be/omyoJ7onNrg

Chozo,

I don't think anybody's forgotten, it's just that CDPR actually fixed almost all of the issues players had with the game, from performance bugs to totally revamped features and game mechanics. The game is in a much better state now than 3 years ago when that video was made; it's almost unrecognizable from its original release form now.

Carighan, do games w Manor Lords is off to a flying start on Steam, just hours after its early access release
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

unfinished release

I feel “early access” has this implication that it’s not just a product that is unfinished being sold for money with a pinky promise that it’ll get better in the future. It’s better than a normal release that ends up being unfinished, but only by being somewhat open about it.

That being said, game looks fantastic. If they keep at this, could become something really really cool in the future.

cynar,

Early access is extremely effective, when used correctly. It lets smaller studios get an income stream a lot earlier, which helps significantly. It also lets them form a tight feedback loop with fans. They can find out what works and what doesn’t. Some examples of it working well would be Rimworld, Kerbal Space Program, and Factorio. All released as amazing games, primarily due to early access.

Unfortunately, a lot of companies seem to be abusing the idea right now. Particularly bigger studios.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah plus from a consumer perspective it’s nothing special.

It’s just a buggy release, only the bugginess and unfinishedness is known and openly announced. Which makes it more earnest, of course. On the other hand just like with any other release you have 0 guarantee or influence over whether missing features get added in the future and/or bugs get fixed. If the content is worth the money asked it’s a buy, if not it’s a wait.

TankovayaDiviziya, do games w CD Projekt CFO does "not see a place for microtransactions in single-player games"

Give it twenty years and CDPR will also succumb. Ubisoft, EA and Activision were kings until they got greedy. All companies eventually enshittify because it is all about money at the end of the day in this capitalist culture we live in.

kadu, do gaming w EA, Jagex, and Miniclip broke loot box advertising rules
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

Miniclip, that’s a name I haven’t heard in years.

Sewer Run 2 was my sport.

Zahille7,

I was a fan of that cyber ninja game myself.

M500, do gaming w Baldur's Gate 3 leads BAFTA Games Awards with 10 nominations

This game was weird for me. I genuinely got addicted to it, but got burned out near the end of the second act. I just ended up putting the game down once I got to the third act.

I really loved it, but I had enough of it for the time being.

With that being said I think the game is like 10/10. The voice acting was flawless. The devs were responsive to feedback. I’ll totally day-1 purchase this studies future releases. They earned it.

nul9o9,

Same here, i also put down DOS2 near the end of the game multiple times as well.

But I still love these games, and I think Baldurs Gate 3 deserves all the praise it’s getting.

Zorsith,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I really need to go back and dive into act 3, I just kinda stopped after getting there.

vinnymac,

For me it was a time issue. If I was a teenager with time to kill, I’d sink endless hours into it. But regularly picking it up and putting it down is kind of disruptive to the flow of the game in my opinion. It’s not something I feel you can play for 30 minutes or even an hour and get much out of.

Overall incredible game though, that I highly recommend.

M500,

I guess this is part of it. Maybe I felt bad about neglecting other things in life to play the game. Some fights take 30+ minutes.

wizardbeard,
@wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

For me it’s this plus the level of focus I feel like I need to not get my shit kicked in.

Maybe I’m just bad, but there’s a good number of encounters where a few bad moves can put you in a slow spiral to defeat. Plus there’s just a lot to consider at any given moment, it’s a deep combat system.

When my only time to play is after my kid is down for the night, a lot of the time I’m looking to relax and not think super hard.

Shayeta,

Yeah, the third act is thw least polished of all. I’m not saying it’s bad, but compared to act 1 and 2 it is just not as good.

ursakhiin,

I thought that on my first playthrough but feel like much of the polish was added by my second one.

ursakhiin,

The game is long. 100-120 hours a playthrough isn’t for everybody. As long as you feel satisfied that’s what counts.

Wootz, do games w Bloodborne Kart isn't allowed to be called Bloodborne Kart anymore, but it is still coming

Dear, oh dear. What was it? The Money? The Fame? Or the Copyright? Oh, it doesn’t matter… It always comes down to the Hunter’s helper to clean up after these sort of messes.

JokeDeity, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs

I’ve never understood the appeal of watching twitch streams, I enjoy the edited compiled stuff with all the boring moments cut out that ends up on YouTube sometimes, but I see no point in watching a dude eating and drinking and staring at his monitor and shouting out to viewers.

derpgon,

Actively, no, but passively on a second monitor, I occasionally join in the discussion in chat. Finding a smallish streamer who actually reads you messages is nice.

fushuan,

Maybe then watch better streams. I usually watch streamers play games while talking to the chat or commenting on the gameplay, while I play a similar game. It’s entertaining.

Juigi,

There’s a lot more than just dudes eating and shouting.

SatouKazuma, do gaming w Twitch "isn't profitable" admits CEO, in wake of recent layoffs
@SatouKazuma@lemmy.world avatar

Where’s that article that shows firms that make workers redundant are worse off in the long run when one needs it? Fuck these cunts. Maybe we should just get rid of capitalism instead.

clearedtoland, do games w This Spyro the Dragon tweet has fans thinking a new instalment is coming

There’s a comment on the article jokingly referring to a Parappa the Rapper tease. Now there’s a game I’d love.

simple,

I would love a remaster of the original game where the controls actually work and it stops failing you for no reason.

MrScottyTay,

I was going to write one here. Good to know others thought the same thing haha

EnderMB,

It’s a shame that Truggy passed away, because I can imagine De La Soul being up for reprising their role in the theme tune.

I’ve often dreamt about a reboot of Parappa, combining realistic graphics with 2Dish animation, featuring famous hip-hop artists.

NetherFalcon, do games w Stardew Valley creator confirms he's made "a ton of progress" on update 1.6
@NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i should try stardew valley tbh, it looks really good

Rudgrcom,

You should!

NetherFalcon,
@NetherFalcon@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i may consider buying it lol

off_brand_, do gaming w GTA 6 trailer coming Tuesday, Rockstar announces

Bleh. I’d love to get excited but it’s gonna be another live service game, or mtx online crap.

Dvixen, do games w Why gaming is so important to players with chronic pain
@Dvixen@lemmy.world avatar

It’s incredibly isolating when there is a game you are super keen to play, but your gaming group powers through as a group to end game, leaving you on your own to play catch-up.

They make promises to help, but magically they are always to busy even for a ten minute assist to help kill that boss it took them five people to take down.

A little empathy would have gone a long way, perhaps an invite to a group when they’ve rerolled their fourth character while I’m still levelling my first.

The people I’d been playing games with for the past few years stopped including me even on a token level. ‘We thought you were in guild/server/discord already.’ Never did get those invites.

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

You just got shit friends, there’s communities on here to find people to play games with, always someone on there looking for a gaming buddy, check some of them out, they all seem pretty cool.

Dvixen,
@Dvixen@lemmy.world avatar

No argument there. Just have to find a new place to game from.

OmenAtom,

Hey I also have cronic pain. What games do you play? Maybe we can play em together

Dvixen,
@Dvixen@lemmy.world avatar

Current list is Path of Exile, Sea of Thieves, Satisfactory, and Warframe. Aust timezone.

OmenAtom,

Id play satisfactory with you but im not sure how well Australian time matches up with EST

Dvixen,
@Dvixen@lemmy.world avatar

Not easily. :(

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