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CatsGoMOW, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

TIL a lot of people aren’t real fans.

RangerJosey, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I’m not a huge fan of Borderlands. I like the stories. But I don’t like the loot goblining. Constant hunt for ever higher damage numbers.

There’s only 1 company I’ll pay $80 for a new game. And that is Ryu Ga Gotoku. Cuz they don’t miss. No bad half finished launches. No bad games. Every game is a masterclass in Peak. https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/059cd97f-4592-4f6e-a60a-8a7dda816dff.jpeg

Yermaw,

I’m the opposite, I don’t give a monkeys about the story but I like the loot goblining.

That said a borderlands came on the gamepass the other week and I was so excited to lure my boy into co-op with me for the first time in ages. It wouldn’t stop crashing. I googled it to see if they were aware and all I could find was the company sucking it’s own dick about having already released the final patch to stop it crashing so many times. I wouldn’t say I’m thrilled about the idea of dropping $80 on a day one release.

Graphy,

I’m a Loot Goblin that spacebars through the story too, but Borderlands hasn’t been able to scratch that itch in a long time.

The last one I played was Tina’s Wonderland and everything about it was a slog. I didn’t care about any of the loot or any of the fights and I definitely didn’t care about the story.

jwiggler,
@jwiggler@sh.itjust.works avatar

Can you recommend me a starting point? For someone who has no experience with these games, or any Japanese games besides Soulsgames and RE4 remake.

Feel free to roast me in the process.

RangerJosey, (edited )

Yakuza 0, kiwami, kiwami 2, Yakuza 3, 4, 5, 6, then 7, then Gaiden, then 8.

Then play Judgement and Lost Judgement. Not part of Yakuza’s core canon. But adjacent.

Schmuppes,

This is the way.

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

I’ll add Factorio to the list of games that deserve the $80 tag. $40 for base, $40 for Space Age expansion. Or don’t get Space Age and go with the mod that spawned Space Age (although not exactly the same).

I get it’s a bit of a niche genre, though. The factory thing the way Factorio does it isn’t for everybody.

kittenzrulz123,

I personally prefer mindustry

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

But I don’t like the loot goblining. Constant hunt for ever higher damage numbers.

I honestly don’t know how people play this game. Every 12 seconds coming across new gear. Can’t do it.

EncryptKeeper,

It didn’t used to be like that and they actually mentioned in the deep dive that they’re getting back to the way it was before. Like the point of the game is loot goblining, but they’ve promised not to inundate the player with legendary weapons every twelve seconds so that you actually have time to savor the weapons you get between good drops.

SolOrion,

It’s not like I need to do the math to figure out which gun is better and why. Find something with green arrows? Hold E to equip it immediately. If I use it for a bit and dislike it I’ll just swap back to what I was using before and mark it as junk so I sell it next time I buy ammo or fill my inventory.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

It’s a combination of a huge variety of attributes and an endless supply. I just get anxiety about walking past a super powerful weapon or dropping it in exchange for something else without realizing it.

SolOrion,

If it ain’t a purple I can basically guarantee it’s shit. Just keep the rarity order in mind, and you can generally assume anything that’s less rare than what you have is also worse. One of the load screens in BL1 or BL2 said When Grandma Burps Patrick Obeys- White, Green, Blue, Purple, Orange. Got absolutely burnt into my brain.

But hey, if it’s stressful fair enough. I think they’re fun games, but nothing is for everyone.

Alfredolin,

BL2 had unique blues which were OP.

SolOrion,

Ah, that’s true! Anything with flavor text- red text in the description- is an exception to the normal rarities.

kbal, do gaming w GTA 6's delay doesn't mean the games industry's in trouble - it's already dead
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Oh no, the video game industry is dead. Good thing we still have about thirty million video games to choose from.

bender223,

Exactly. The article is clickbaity and out of touch. It’s not like there’s a decline in the number gamers. It’s just harder to make a AAA game that’s a hit, and that’s doesn’t mean the gaming industry is dead. AAA gaming/games are not representative of the whole gaming industry. AAA gaming is becoming the example of what NOT to do in the gaming industry. 🤦‍♂️

GammaGames, do gaming w GTA 6's delay doesn't mean the games industry's in trouble - it's already dead

God I hate capitalism

Lost_My_Mind, do games w Nintendo loses trademark fight against Super Mario supermarket

I love Nintendo games. I HATE the company behind the games. And it’s not like this is recent shit either. This goes all the way back to the 80s. They tried sueing Blockbuster for including game manuals with their rentals.

So if you remember blockbuster printing the important bits of the manual, like controls, on the plastic dust cover, that was their workaround to “including copyrighted documents”.

And the only reason they sued for copyright infringement was because they tried to sue to end rentals completely, but blockbuster wasn’t breaking any laws. So Nintendo tried doing whag cops do, and bust you for something smaller, just to get you into court. Then try’d try to wear you down with lawsuits by showing you had a history of law breaking.

Problem was, Nintendo just got a history of suing anyone and anything.

Alternate timeline there’s a version of Nintendo who never sued anyone, but won THIS lawsuit, because they didn’t have that history of wasting the courts time for decades.

JoeKrogan, do games w Ubisoft announces studio closure as it lays off 185 staff
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

The employees should form a cooperative, they are the ones with the skills, the actual producers

AFC1886VCC, do games w Ubisoft announces studio closure as it lays off 185 staff

Fuck Ubisoft

TheFeatureCreature, do games w Elder Scrolls Online developer votes to unionise
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

Good on them! Hell yeah.

caut_R, do games w Payday 3 developer likens launch to being a rock band when "the whole stage collapses and everyone leaves"

I came to Payday 3 from Payday - The Heist… It‘s such a surreal experience how there‘s two dozens cops surrounding you taking a turn at firing a bullet each while in PDTH you’d get lasered down by three of em lol

And managing armor sucks IMO

MonkderVierte, do games w "Modding is pretty big" says Baldur's Gate 3 director as over 1m mods are installed in less than 24 hours

Klei, Take-Two, Mojang, pretty much built their games on community mods. Heck, even mobile and desktop user interfaces are based on community mods.

daddy32,

Which klei games have the strongest modding?

MonkderVierte,

Hard to say. For Rimworld, there are lots of engine-level mods/fixes and expansions, so i guess this one?

daddy32,

That one is not from Klei :) I’m asking because I like all the Klei games I’ve tried, but didn’t get much into modding with any of them…

MonkderVierte,

Oh, right. Really thought it’s from the same studio as ONI and Don’t starve.

From the two, i think oni has more modding?

Mossheart,

Rimworld is from Ludeon Studios.

a_wild_mimic_appears,

i would say Oxygen not included has the largest amount of mods with the most impact of the Klei games - Don’t Starve has some nice mods too though

daddy32,

I’ve checked and Invisible inc has a still active modding community too!

TimLovesTech, (edited ) do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

For anyone not clicking thru:

In full, the don’ts are:

  • Do NOT insult other influencers or players.
  • Do NOT use any offensive language/humour.
  • Do NOT include politics, violence, nudity, feminist propaganda, fetishisation, and other content that instigates negative discourse.
  • Do NOT use trigger words such as ‘quarantine’ or ‘isolation’ or ‘Covid-19’.
  • Do NOT discuss content related to China’s game industry policies, opinions, news, etc.

I see this as them wanting influencers to focus on their game, instead of using the game as a platform to wade into these other topics that focus on the country they happen to live in. And this being an election year in the US ,and the Right having spread wild conspiracy theories about China for years now, them not wanting any of that stuff to overshadow their art doesn’t seem all that crazy of a take. Basically they are saying they want influencers to talk about the game and to leave politics to /c/politics.

Oh and this is of course only sent to influencers, so just people they are giving the game to for free. The rest of the world (including influencers that buy their own copy) are of course free to do whatever they are legally allowed to in their jurisdiction.

Edit - I just want to add an edit after reading the IGN article someone linked above, that I am not siding with or defending any of the gross things coming from people working at this studio. And I guess this would come down to if people can separate the art from the artist, which I personally struggle with in many instances.

Jaderick,

The use of “feminist propaganda” over “misogyny” seems very deliberate.

tja,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, because it seems the studio doesn’t have any problem with misogyny

TimLovesTech,

Oh for sure. I do wonder what part the Chinese government takes in shaping the wording of “exports” like this too.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

None, Azur Lane chinese is completely different and censored from Azur Lane’s JP and global versions.

kazaika,

I might give them the benefit of the doubt and say its a translation issue

Hexadecimalkink, do gaming w Borderlands is failing already.

The trailer looked like a wannabe Guardians of the Galaxy clone.

jlsalvador, do gaming w Getting PSVR2 working on PC isn't as easy as it should be

TLDR; the reviewer is upset because the PSVR2-PC adapter doesn’t come with a Display Port cable, and his Bluetooth adapter is not compatible. So he can’t review the unit on time until he receive both items. 🤷

Fiivemacs,

And that’s perfectly valid…if Sony is selling something to make their device work on pc, include the things to make it work or don’t claim it’ll make it work without needing a bunch of other crap.

The average person won’t do prior digging to find out how the company is lying to them, they just trust…sadly.

averyminya,

At the same time, unfortunately it is pretty standard among electronics in general. Photography, synthesizers, music equipment in general, PC parts… When you buy a pc case, you expect the bare minimum to include screws, but they don’t always include things like SATA cables.

However for VR, a simple adapter should definitely be included. I just can see why it wasn’t given the history of electronics.

Eggyhead,

It’s been known since before launch that it wouldn’t come with a display port cable. Not sure about the Bluetooth thing. I couldn’t say for sure, but I Imagine it probably says something in the item description and on the box itself.

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

Wait. Is it not normal to have a box full of extra cables and adapters just laying around?

<.<

pipariturbiini,

Hello, fellow IT person. One day we will need the VGA cables we have saved.

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

I had to drop everything and move halfway across the country on somewhat short notice (long story) and could only take what fit in my car. One of those things was my random cables/adapters box and it came in handy almost immediately. No one will ever convince me to throw that shit away.

Viking_Hippie, do games w DF Weekly: Some original Xbox One units failing to update, disabling most console functions

We’ve informed Microsoft, we’re confident the problem will be fixed

Famous last words

sunzu, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

Sounds like a management issue, how is the guy paying for the services gets shitted on here

I also don't understand why I am being scolded by a guy I paid 30 bucks too for alpha testimg...

I never complained.

Badeendje,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think it is targeted at you or me. Ofc there are some gamers out there that would be whipping the dev given the chance.

But the main issue seems to be unrealistic and poorly managed expectations. From management, devs themselves and gamers.

I think the silent majority knows what they are getting into and understand sometimes you buy a melon, but mostly devs just take longer than people want.

sunzu,

the silent majority knows what they are getting into

You are correct here but the headlines like these make me wonder if I am an idiot for spending money on the alpha game. I don't like the one as paying silent majority. They need to work on their PR IMHO

Badeendje,
@Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think we are idiots for buying certain early access games. I personally judge games based on the state they are in at the moment they are offered and take some of the promises into account. But also so far I have had relatively little issues beyond game balancing etc with many games. And usually crash issues get fixed quick.

The satisfactory devs have a good interaction with their community and manage expectations properly.

So in this case the dev could take an hour every other week and write a blog post or something. That was also a good way the dev of banished used to do it.

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