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FeelzGoodMan420, do games w Devs should not be "forced to run on a treadmill until their mental or physical health breaks", says publisher of Manor Lords, citing how gamers seem to be trained to expect endless content work now

Sorry, but I for one am not going to accept these companies blaming everything on gamers. I’m not into bootlicking. Gamers are annoying af for sure, but I’m not blaming systemic industry problems on gamers. That’s complete horseshit.

lolcatnip,

Who are “these companies”? Game publishers and developers certainly aren’t a monolith. To me, this publisher’s complaint seems like an implicit critique of how big publishers have trained gamers to have expectations that are unrealistic for all but the most high-profile games.

FiniteBanjo,

There are a lot of articles like this one lately saying Gamers don’t appreciate the products we’re given and that we complain too much. Those companies. All of them. Manor Lords is still Early Access on steam. If the developer can’t be bothered to develop his unfinished game while taking our money then that’s on him, not us.

vxx, (edited )

We’re living in a “either 1 star or 5 stars” world. There’s no in between, and I fully understand that it can be frustrating and put immense pressure onto developers.

I don’t know the company behind this game, but I’m not giving them the 1 star review just because I assume every tiny company is bad as well as all the big companies.

What if there’s a boss that tries to protect his employees and sees the issue in extreme expectations?

Not saying it definitely is that way, but why assume the worst first?

Early access games are marketed as such, and it shouldn’t come with a suprise that it’s an unfinished game. Some do it better, some worse, but an early access title shouldn’t be treated with expectations that reflect a finished product.

I’m not a fan of most early access titles myself though, at least not early in development. I don’t want to help develop it, so I wait for an almost finished product.

FiniteBanjo,

From where I sit, good and critically acclaimed games are plentiful and if you can make a game then it’s easy to make a good one: just don’t be a greedy idiot and make the game you want to play.

If the developer doesn’t want to be badgered about finishing his game then he shouldn’t be selling it unfinished, it comes with the territory. The problem is they went and complained.

atrielienz,

Neither are gamers. They aren’t a monolith either. This article smacks of the "millennials kill billion dollar industry " nonsense. There’s definitely mitigating factors on both sides as far as the expectations during such transactions. When I pay for something that is promised to be complete I have an expectation in my mind that it will be completed. If it’s an early access beta, I spent the money to support that product and developer.

However a lot of developers big and small have engendered this reaction because they fall victim to the hype train. They market the game. People are interested. People’s interest begins to wain because the game is taking too long (cyber punk), or the company doesn’t want to lose the hype wave so they release even though the game isn’t finished (no mans sky, and cyber punk honestly), and this is what we get. On the other hand, we see the backlash that happens when games get canceled by larger studios. And we see smaller studios constantly miss their launch windows or expected release dates with little to no contact with the fan base or the public (Team Cherry/silksong).

It doesn’t matter if you’re an indie developer or a triple A studio, what most gamers want is a complete game at launch, or (in the case of an alpha/beta release) updates.

A vocal minority is being shitty here and the article is acting as if gamers are just getting together to hold developers big and small’s feet to the coals or something.

MurrayL, do gaming w Kerbal Space Program 2 studio reportedly shut down by Take-Two

Wow - Take Two shuttering this studio AND Roll7 (OlliOlli, Rollerdrome) just a month after they announced they’re buying Gearbox for almost half a billion. Absolutely catastrophic mismanagement. What a shitshow.

beebarfbadger,

Absolutely catastrophic mismanagement.

Hard disagree. When the vultures gut and eat the racehorse they just bought, they’re perfectly happy with the outcome.

Varyag, do gaming w Embracer CEO says it's "way too early" for the company to "start talking about" acquiring new studios
@Varyag@lemm.ee avatar

FUCKING STOP. Pieces of shit gambled with several studios to get themselves bought and it blew in their faces ruining several of said studios losing many many people their jobs.

retrieval4558, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade

I played when it first came out, then again around 2018. Felt like a huge waste of potential to me. Unless there’s some legal reason, I absolutely cannot comprehend why a normal pokemon battling system wasn’t included.

Unless doing something besides just reskinning their other game (Ingress?) was too much work.

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not surprised that something carrying the Pokémon brand is somehow both extremely lucrative but also unwilling to dedicate the minimal effort necessary to add obvious features

the_artic_one,

I absolutely cannot comprehend why a normal pokemon battling system wasn’t included.

Because it doesn’t fit the design of the game.

Pokemon Go is meant to be played while walking around outside. This means you can’t have a lot of text because glare from the sun will make it too hard to read. The real battle system also requires more congnitive load than most people can handle while walking and takes too long which will lead to people stopping for extended periods of time at which point you’re no longer playing a pedometer game.

MeekerThanBeaker, do games w Spec Analysis: PlayStation 5 Pro - the most powerful console yet

Um… Of course it would be. Why wouldn’t it be? It’s not going to be less powerful than the current systems. What a stupid headline.

Voytrekk,
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

It’s like when Apple says iPhone n is the fastest iPhone ever created at their announcement event. I would certainly hope so.

caut_R,

„It is the second fastest and third best looking iPhone yet!“

summerof69,

It’s not going to be less powerful than the current systems.

It’s not like the headline implies that it could or should be less powerful. It’s a simple headline that conveys a simple message that a regular reader might find worth clicking.

WarmSoda, do gaming w Nintendo shares drop following Switch 2 delay reports

Ohhh noooo not the shares!

Exusia,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

Won’t someone think of the poor billionaires!

Computerchairgeneral, do games w Disco Elysium standalone expansion reportedly cancelled and quarter of staff facing redundancy at ZA/UM

It's a shame that people are being laid off, especially when it seems like it's retaliation for complaining about working conditions. Still, I don't think I'd ever be able to buy anything from ZA/UM after they kicked most of the creators out of the company and took control of the IP.

SquigglyEmpire, do games w Xbox is still committed to making consoles, says boss Phil Spencer

It’s never a good sign when you have to say something like that…

Shadywack,
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

“Any man who must say ‘I am the King’ is no true king.”

Kolanaki,
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Didn’t Aragorn have to tell those ghost dudes he was the king to get them to fulfill their oath? 🤔

Shadywack,
@Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, and it went something like “Hay, I am TEH KING” Ghost dudes be like “lolwut? Fuq, die bitch” Aragorn blocks attack with Anduril “Oh shit, lmao, sorry, we gotchu bruh”

THEN he was teh kang.

DebatableRaccoon, do gaming w Activision Blizzard settles sex discrimination lawsuit for £44m

This isn’t even a slap on the wrist for a company like that anymore. This is more like an untimely poke

detectivemittens,

Yeah. It’s a joke given their executive comp is higher than the awarded amount.

p03locke,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The cost of doing business. They will continue to discriminate and it would still be profitable to them.

The judges in these lawsuits don’t seem to understand that it’s not just about paying money and damages back, but making it financially unsustainable to repeat the crime.

KyuubiNoKitsune,

If it’s any consolation, there is now a system in place where average people have taken charge of handling shit like this because HR are too busy protecting the company to care. I’m not in AB, but I do know that the system exists and the people running that department give a shit about the people who have problems.

Anissem, do gaming w E3 is officially dead
@Anissem@lemmy.ml avatar

RIP. Went to 3 E3 conferences back to back at the end of their golden years. Boy was it a glorious spectacle that I’m thankful I got to experience.

SamXavia,
@SamXavia@kbin.run avatar

Hopefully something as good as E3 comes about in the future as it's sad to see the gaming community have one less thing to be exited for.

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

*excited sorry to be that guy but I spesifically hate it when people say exited instead of excited it just sounds so wrong. Have a nice day

SamXavia,
@SamXavia@kbin.run avatar

Sorry i'm bad at spelling

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

Absolutely no problem, this is just a very spesific nitpick of mine

remotedev,

*specific. Sorry but spesific instead of specific is specially annoying for me

verysoft,

*especially

EvaUnit02,
@EvaUnit02@kbin.social avatar

specifically*

LastoftheDinosaurs, do games w GTA 6 trailer coming Tuesday, Rockstar announces
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  • WarmSoda,

    And that 15 years was filled with nothing but shark cards and other online only nonsense.

    Don’t know why anyone would be excited in the least for a new GTA.

    Fredselfish,
    @Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m not I fear that this game be a monetize hellscape with online only play.

    froop,

    GTA5 was the most profitable entertainment product of all time when it was single player only. It turned a profit in one day. It’s definitely going to have an online mode, but there’s no reason to expect it to forgo single player, especially after rdr2.

    WarmSoda,

    I looked into it and yeah, the only thing that made more has been Minecraft. And Minecraft made twice as much. GTAV made twice as much as the one below it.
    That’s pretty crazy.

    Don’t get me wrong, I completely understand why they focused on multiplayer. Im just a fan since GTA 1. They have a completely different set of values since then, and it’s too bad to see them degrade into Corporate Company No 1. So to speak.

    froop,

    Their completely different set of values led to RDR2, so I’m not worried.

    SuperSaiyanSwag,

    I mean, we got RDR2 5 years ago and that game is a masterpiece. Yes, there is potential for the next thing to suck, but it hasn’t happened yet, so why be pessimistic?

    umbrella,
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    rockstar is still the one game company i trust to release something kickass.

    pls dont dissapoint rockstar.

    smort,
    @smort@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m gonna look at reviews and gameplay first. But if it’s got 10+ hours of what looks to me like fun, then I’ll probably buy it

    As with V, I’m not interested in the online stuff

    orbitz,

    I tried some online stuff (no friends and just casual play) with V and it wasn’t interesting at all to me. Mean the story wasn’t stellar in V but I had enough fun through single player. Hopefully they put at least the same effort in VI’s single player. Though with all the companies wanting more money I bet there’ll be more focus for online from the start this time.

    WarmSoda,

    Yeah I agree with that sentiment.

    Floufym,
    @Floufym@lemmy.world avatar

    We also got Rickroll !

    Veedem, do games w Grand Theft Auto 5 turns 10 years old
    @Veedem@lemmy.world avatar

    So I’m assuming they’re going to release a brand new 10th anniversary edition for $70

    OrteilGenou,

    rEmAsTeReD

    Player2,

    Expanded and enhanced

    Olap, do games w Ubisoft Montreal's mandatory return-to-office order reportedly leaves staff in "turmoil"

    What better way to manage head counts down?

    ISOmorph,

    That’s the devious part. It’s just mass layoffs without the severance packages.

    conciselyverbose,

    It still counts as firing you most places. Materially changing the work environment and obligations is constructive dismissal

    Unforeseen,

    Especially in Canada, and particularly in Quebec

    caut_R, (edited ) do games w Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

    Please backwards compatible, please OLED, please enough power to 720p60fps everything natively (no upscaling, cause that sucks on such low res, Idm 4k upscaling).

    1080p60fps on portable would be a dream but I‘m not that delusional.

    I‘d also be hyped if they could offer joycons that make it usable for extended amounts of time in portable without destroying my hands or having to rely on third party cases.

    beefcat,
    @beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

    Can we add a cheaper non-portable option to the wishlist? I don’t like paying for a screen or battery or junky mobile controllers that I will never use.

    darth_helmet,

    This is exactly where I’m at. I don’t think my switch has left the dock on purpose since I bought it, what a waste of resources.

    Jabbawacky, (edited )

    I just use Yuzu rather than my switch. Can’t beat 4k60fps+

    darth_helmet,

    No judgement from me, but I do try to pay folks for their stuff if I can afford it and it’s available in the market

    Jabbawacky,

    ? I buy all my games and rip them using my launch Switch. I then enjoy playing them in 4k60fps instead of using the dock, with the saves synced via wifi so I can go back to handheld after.

    Emulation does NOT = piracy for fucks sake.

    darth_helmet,

    Ok, carry on. My mistake.

    Jabbawacky,

    Do it again and you’ll get the raspberry

    russjr08,
    @russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net avatar

    Out of curiosity, how do you do the save syncing? I’ve already got Yuzu itself all setup, but this would certainly help with some issues that I face when using it.

    catloaf, do games w Beyond Good & Evil 2's troubled development due to "passionate managers" not getting along, says creator Michel Ancel

    The article seems to say that “passionate” is code for “toxic”.

    grrgyle,

    Yeah it means things got pretty heated

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