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deathmetal27, do gaming w Sega layoffs hit 240 staff, including at Total War studio Creative Assembly

Creating Hyenas in a market already full of such shooters was the dumbest decision.

Also IIRC, Relic actually found an independent investor and thus did a management buyout from Sega rather than being sold outright.

NOT_RICK, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Pokémon go isn’t a fun game, it’s just a fomo wealth extractor. I got up to level 42 and finally cut it off

ABCDE,

Wealth in what way? I think I gave them five pounds but that’s was it. I’ve gotten a lot more out of it than that.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Once you get to a certain point the only way to get new pokemon is to grind eggs and they set the drop rates for some so low it takes dozens and dozens of eggs to get them. Then you have the regional pokemon that are normally impossible to get without travel that will become available for special events if you shell out for 10+ bucks. Its manipulative

ABCDE,

I think I have all the ones from eggs which are possible, I’d need to check though. Regional Pokémon haven’t been limited for a while, you can get them in 7km eggs which you get from others.

MeatsOfRage,

Year 1 I went hard on pokemon go, I committed to the original 150 (I don’t recognize anything past red and blue) that were available and in my region then peaced out. There wasn’t anything there past my nostalgia.

hal_5700X, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade

Okay but we have this article from pokemongohub.net, Pokémon GO’s yearly revenue slumps to 2017’s levels!. So where’s truth?

Visstix, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade

It would be a lot less boring if not the same pokemon spawned over and over again in fases. There are so many pokemon but you keep finding a couple.

hungprocess, do games w CD Projekt CFO does "not see a place for microtransactions in single-player games"
@hungprocess@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“Spending a huge chunk of the budget on dishonest advertising and then releasing a significantly different, half-broken game is still cool though.”

Bonesince1997,

No need to make my comment now because you’ve said it better! Perfect sass.

A_Random_Idiot,

but its okay, cause 4 years later we’ll release an expansion and what we are declaring the final patches to finally have the game in a state it should have been when it was fucking released.

Thanks for all the money, suckers customers!

makyo,

The worst thing is that everyone seems to think that it IS where it should have been at release! Which I will admit that it is finally the polished bug-free game that any game should be at release. But anyone like me who was watching every last promo video they did teasing the game pre-release, knows it still isn’t and never will be the game they promised it would be.

Their insistence on releasing on previous gen hardware is surely as much to blame as the rush to get it out for that sweet sweet pandemic money. Still looking back it’s hard to say if it ever was going to live up to what they were teasing it would be.

A_Random_Idiot,

I’m a simple man.

I don’t believe their bullshots and promises.

I’m just happy if a game arrives in good, playable condition, feature and story complete.

and Cyberpunk couldnt even live up to that. Perhaps it was story complete on release? I dont know, I was never able to beat the game until like 2 years after release due to encountering a mind-numbing amount of bugs and catastrophes and thus giving up and walking away from the game for a good long time.

I would have refunded it and never thought about it again if it wasnt a gift.

BaskinRobbins,

Yeah with initial disaster at release it’s easy to forget they originally promised multiplayer would be added in later and a robust functioning society where each NPC would have a job and routine they follow

Cold_Brew_Enema,

Exactly. I hate that people are completely on CDPR side again, forgetting that they completely deceived their fans with a half baked game. Just because they eventually made it better (and still didn’t deliver on what they said) doesn’t mean they deserve to heralded again. Any trust I had in them is gone.

nevemsenki, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade

Any game that makes people actually move is good in my book.

catloaf, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection used modder's work without credit

What do you think would happen if the mod authors filed a DMCA takedown against the game?

A_Toasty_Strudel,
@A_Toasty_Strudel@lemmy.world avatar

They’d have to change the content or pay the man prolly.

xkforce,

Ahahahaha I want to live in your world instead of the one we actually live in.

SchmidtGenetics,

Their lawyers tie you up with a lot of legal fees trying to get you to defend it, if you don’t they take you to court for a frivolous suit.

Either way they win and you lose, even if you’re right.

I don’t see it playing out positive unfortunately.

andrew,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

I’d fund that GoFundMe.

Buttons, (edited )
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

Can the lawyers on the receiving end of a DMCA takedown take the other party to court for a frivolous suit? I thought one of the problems was that there is no recourse for those on the receiving end of a bad DMCA takedown?

What I think would happen is the modders send a DMCA takedown, and EA either does take it down, or they file a “we’re not violating copyright, promise” form and then that’s the end of the DMCA. If they file the “we’re not violating copyright” form, then from there the modders can file a normal copyright violation suit if they choose.

SchmidtGenetics,

Sounds like it, not a lawyer, but if you’re wasting peoples time and money, yeah there will most likely be a way for them to get back at you.

catloaf,

Right, EA would file a counter-notice. Then the modder would have to get lawyers involved and file an actual legal complaint, and EA would respond with their lawyers.

But once they file the counter-notice, you could just stop there. They could sue you for filing in bad faith, but I’ve never heard of that happening.

Son_of_dad,

Nothing. Modders suddenly feeling they should be paid is really entitled and kind of crazy. Hey I made some fan art of a marvel character, should marvel pay me?

Modding isn’t a job, and you can’t make money off of someone else’s game

Potatos_are_not_friends,

You’re conflating two different things.

There’s modders who whine about working for free. And yes, modding is a choice.

Where in this incident is stolen work.

Son_of_dad,

It’s not work . I’m currently modding a game, it’s a hobby. And I’d be entitled as hell to think I should be paid for it.

This “pay the modders” thing will just lead to more micro transactions. You want to download that created wrestler in the new game? It was made by so and so, you now owe. $9.99. fuck that

ringwraithfish,

If you make something and give it away for free, that’s fine.

If you make something and I sell it to the masses for a profit without your permission that’s theft.

fartsparkles,

It’s not about pay the modders so much as if the developer of the game took your mod, put it in the game proper, claimed it was their work, and charged people for it.

QuaternionsRock,

Can you link your mod files so I can sell them without your knowledge or consent please? Seeing as you have no problem with it…

Son_of_dad,

Yeah they’re up on the games site for free

catloaf,

dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/…/work

I found several definitions where this meets the definition of “work”, but I’m interested to hear your argument about how “time and effort spent doing a task” is not work.

Son_of_dad,

Nobody hired you to mod someone else’s art. It’s a hobby. I can’t put brush to someone else’s painting and demand payment

Don_alForno,

This is the wrong comparison. If you painted a modified version of an existing painting, the original painter can’t take your work and sell it against your will.

Son_of_dad,

Actually it’s more like you modifying someone else’s video game and then selling it as your own

Don_alForno,

No it’s not. The modder didn’t sell anything. Wanting to be compensated if somebody else makes a profit from your work that you put out for free is not the same thing as selling it.

Son_of_dad,

Wanting money for your work isn’t selling?

Don_alForno,

No, because they weren’t even offering it for sale. But they also weren’t offering it to be taken to be sold by somebody else for a profit. Which is what the studio did anyway. So now, after the fact, they can either pay a compensation and credit the modder, or they can remove their stuff from the game.

skulblaka, (edited )
@skulblaka@startrek.website avatar

Hey I made some fan art of a marvel character, should marvel pay me?

When they use that fan art in the next official marvel movie, yes absolutely they should.

Son_of_dad,

But it’s their character, you didn’t ask permission to make the art out of a copyright, why should they pay you?

BlemboTheThird,

They’re still taking something they didn’t make and selling it as though they did. I have every right to write and film a Batman movie, spend as much time I want making it professional, and then show it to people, as long as I don’t charge them for it. That doesn’t give Fox or whoever the right to take my movie and charge for it instead. Even if I did break the law by making people pay for it, the actual owners would only be entitled to that money, not to go make mroe money off of it themselves. It’s still my work even if it uses concepts invented by someone else.

There’s a reason every franchise under the sun has mountains of fanart and fanfic without the companies that own them trying to take control of it: it’s blatantly illegal.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s their character, but it’s your work.

They cant just steal your work for their own monetary gain, just the same as you cant steal their character for your own monetary gain.

Both sides have contributed something here, but one side is profiting off the other through theft.

SchmidtGenetics,

But the rub is, under fair use you can’t profit from it though, so as soon as you accept payment, now they can sue you. So in the end, they win and get it for free regardless.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

If the rights holders enter into a contract and pay you for your work, I don’t think they can turn around and sue you for making a profit off of it. I’m no lawyer, but I don’t think the law is that far gone.

SchmidtGenetics,

But how can they make a contract? Signing it would violate fair use exemption before that could be argued.

Corps are abusing a conflict within the laws, it’s not even a loophole, it’s just the unfortunate way the laws that protect each person/industry don’t agree.

FireTower,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Contracting someone to use an artwork they made of your character would implicitly grant a license for them to make commercial profit off of that transaction.

catloaf,

Profit is not explicitly one of the four factors of fair use.

CTDummy, (edited )

That isn’t what a DMCA is for. Someone being compensated for the work they’ve done is unrelated to suing a company for using your art/code/work without permission or reference. Weirdly aggressive to modders though.

Edit: for your edit, you can’t monetise a mod for someone’s else’s game directly but you can absolutely make money modding. And even if their EULA enables them to do so, taking a modders code without at least a reference is pretty dogshit. Literally a million dollar studio ripping off people who did it out of passion knowing full well they wouldn’t get compensated. I’m surprised a EULA can protect them legally for doing it tbh.

Guntrigger,

Well yeah, if Marvel released their next movie and it was literally the fan art.

Buttons,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

Their art, their copyright.

They don’t expect to be paid, but they do expect that their copyright not be violated.

They might expect pay in exchange for granting a license to use their copyright art.

RealFknNito, (edited ) do games w CD Projekt CFO does "not see a place for microtransactions in single-player games"
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Hammering and saw noises.

Ah, there it is. CDPR is rebuilding their reputation after Cyberpunk’s launch. Nature is healing.

fsxylo,

As it was with witcher 3, AKA “get off the roof, roach!”

camr_on, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t played in a while but a ton of my friends are into it, including people who normally wouldn’t be into gaming or Pokemon. I don’t totally get it but they’re doing something right

Shou, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade

It’s boring. All you do is collect digital bottlecaps.

ABCDE,

There’s more to it than that.

Bezier,
@Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

I tried it way back when it launched, and before that, the whatever previous non-pokemon game they made. I didn’t stick to it, and today I wouldn’t touch a location tracking game with a long pole, but there was more fun in it than just collecting fake creatures or whatever. Going out for a walk and making my way to places marked on the game map was cool. I found some interesting landmarks that I had no idea about before.

Downcount, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade

Ah Pokémon Go, aka we are selling shinies for cash.

psyc, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade
@psyc@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t played in the last year or so but the game did age very well. I played it like everyone else when it first came out and the novelty quickly wore off and the game had very little depth. I revisited it many years later on a whim and was surprised with how much content had been added. I ended up playing regularly for a few years after that with my wife. The game is definitely dependent on where you live and now that I’m in a more rural area I don’t play very much but even in a medium population city it’s was very enjoyable. I joined a local discord and we attended many community days and it was a great deal of fun and very social. Fond memories, and I hope to revisit the game again

Gork, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade

I liked it when I was pandered to. Pokémon Go to the Polls

MacedWindow, do games w Niantic: Pokémon Go healthy and growing as it approaches its next decade
@MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

I had fun with Go when it launched, but haven’t played in years. What I love about it though is how many"non- traditional" gamers play it. I’ve had more than one 50+ coworker I’ve known tell me they play it often, and do no other gaming besides it. Two of my sisters also play, and they don’t play any other games. I think that’s awesome.

Cmor, do games w CD Projekt CFO does "not see a place for microtransactions in single-player games"

Praise Geraldo del Rivera! CD Projekt Red is (le)terally saving gaming.

HiddenLychee,

Is it 2016 again? If so I want to warn someone

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