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PanArab, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@PanArab@lemm.ee avatar

Since I didn’t enjoy the handsome collection I wouldn’t buy it at any price, but even for games I do enjoy I wait until they are on sale preferably with the DLCs included

carl_dungeon, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

The trailer for the new borderlands looked like the most soulless, boring cash grab. Anyone put much time into it yet?

BotsRuinedEverything, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Yarrrrr

Ibuthyr, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I can barely justify 50€ for a massive game like Baldur’s Gate 3. I’d never pay that much for any other game that is not on this scale. But 80 bucks? The fuck are they thinking?

Coskii,

They don’t have any dlc lined up yet so not being to sell you empty promises on top of a normal game price is really tugging at Randy’s purse strings.

/s

umbraroze, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@umbraroze@slrpnk.net avatar

Yeah, Randy, I find a way to make it happen, it’s called Xbox sale. That’s how I bought Borderlands 3. Which I haven’t played yet. And don’t get me wrong, Randy, Borderlands 2 is one of the most fun games I’ve played, I’m definitely a real fan! I’m definitely a video game enthusiast, I have a ginormous backlog on both Xbox and Steam.

MystikIncarnate, (edited ) do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Real fan?

Bitch please. We’ve put up with your crap for so long and we still play it…

Get out of here with that horse shit. Get fucked. Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on. At best, I’ll wait for a sale, at worst, I’m never playing your goddamned franchise again because you’ve run it into the ground with enshittification.

LuckyPierre, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Find a way?

Piracy is a way. Thanks for the tip.

Quibblekrust, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

In today’s dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today’s dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

Just some perspective. I’m going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

andros_rex,

Atari 2600 Pac Man is shit lol

Quibblekrust,

Yet I played it so much I can hear it in my head right now.

bobo,

bunk bunk ba-bunk bunk! Koik-doik! Koik-doik!

Voroxpete,

I’m actually OK with games costing a bit more to sell if they cost a lot to make; god knows, the devs deserve to get paid properly. But, one, that money won’t actually make it to the devs, and two, any time Randy Pitchford is for something it’s really hard not to automatically be against it, on the assumption that he’s so consistently wrong about everything, and just such an unbelievable piece of shit, that just assuming he’s in the wrong is the safest bet.

interdimensionalmeme,

The devs are not seeing a penny over what it would cost to replace them with someone hungrier.

interdimensionalmeme,

Fabrication costs have plummeted, while choice and competition in this space exoloded.

Financialization is what happenned to gaming and that’s why cultural successes are being leveraged at extortionate prices.

Borderlands 3 was boring ass slop too. BL4 is going to be a stinker.

finitebanjo, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Listen, I unironically love being woke. Accessibility for impairments? Human rights? Equity? Regulations standing in the way of greed? Overrepresentation of minority demographics? Fuck yes to all of that shit. Hell’s Yeah.

But the direction of these games have been poor for a lot of reasons. It doesn’t feel woke, really, it feels like they want us to believe they aren’t Handsome Jack’s corporate studio goons like they are.

Elkot, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I won’t be buying any game that costs $80 not when I have a mountain of games in my Steam Library, many of which are getting played thanks to the Steam Deck and if that’s not enough I have Game Pass too so why the hell would I even consider paying $80

joel_feila, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.

dragonbringerx,

Shit, I waited until BL3 was free on PSN, and I’ll get around to it someday.

TurboHarbinger, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

Voroxpete,

Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.

Then again, we should all be asking how the hell he’s not in jail for possession of child porn, so I guess this is a pretty minor thing in comparison.

JigglySackles, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Guess I’m not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He’s such a cunt.

xiii,

While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.” Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself. When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

mcvuk.com/…/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accus…

conditional_soup,

If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it’s this asshole

JigglySackles,

I’ve not heard a single good thing about him. He’s just a toolbag through and through.

jaykrown, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Nope, just would play Tiny Tina’s Wonderland again honestly, which I got for around $10 when it was heavily on sale a year ago.

leavemealone, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Too much games to play on the market to justify the urgency to buy it at release for 80 bucks. they now compete with free to play, gamepass, Indy games, piracy, and tons of past games with lower cost.

The fomo of newly released games is low when most games are released in shitty state and need 1/2 months of patches/fixes and that’s not even taking in consideration that the best experience is when all the dlcs are released and make the game finally complete.

The AAA industry is fucked. In a world where quality games are released each weeks they are often but even the best way to have fun with our limited time, like tepid Ubisoft games…

WarlordSdocy,

Yeah I’m really starting to feel like we’re gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn’t be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.

leavemealone,

Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can’t get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.

Cethin,

Honestly, in my opinion, there’s too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn’t competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don’t expect much from four, and there’s companies I’d actually like to support instead.

leavemealone,

I can’t tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn’t interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn’t taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn’t have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don’t trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.

Cethin,

I don’t know if there’s even anything to get back. Is it that 3 was bad or is it just that Borderlands doesn’t interest us anymore? I honestly don’t know, but I think it’s at least partially the latter for me. I’ve played much better games since, and I don’t really find that formula appealing anymore. Almost everything it created has been used to make better products since, so is there even a reason to care about them anymore?

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