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WoodScientist, (edited ) do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

I still remember my first playthrough. Low level character. I save scummed until I could sneak into the tower in the heart of the Imperial City. In the council chamber was a mage with an incredibly powerful staff. I pickpocketed it off of him, again using save scumming. I then traveled to Bravil and entered the castle there. As the Count of Bravil was giving a speech, I pulled out the staff and zapped him dead on his throne, right in front the of the whole court. I then got away from the assassination through the brilliant escape plan of running out the front door, murder weapon still in hand.

Damn I loved Oblivion.

Muuuuurrddeeerrr!!!

dogslayeggs,

My favorite story was actually from my buddy’s playthrough. He duped the poison apple from the assassin’s guild quest using the arrow glitch. He then duped it 50 more times and put-pocketed one into everyone’s pockets in a specific town. When they all went to lunch they ate them and died. An entire town of dead people. It was hilarious.

WoodScientist,

An entire town of dead people. It was hilarious.

I see you also follow the life philosophy of, “if you’re not on at least one watch list, are you even really living?” :D

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I beat the entire thieves guild quest line starting at basically level 1 by using the strategy of “run fast”. There were some major flaws that kept me from loving that game properly, so I’m hoping it’s more user friendly with the remake. But I could definitely see a lot of charm in it.

If it isn’t one of the ugliest games I’ve ever played though. Why is every character a shiny, pudgy, orange?

WoodScientist,

Yup. I’m pretty sour on Bethesda RPGs after getting burned hard by Starfield. But I have a hard time imagining even they could fuck up a simple remastering of a game I already loved in the past.

datavoid,

I’ve been save scumming my way through the fighters guild quests for literally 10+ years.

I’m like 1 achievement away from 100%… but holy shit, those trolls are relentless. They take like 40 hits to kill but only need 1-2 to kill you.

ArchmageAzor, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, I think it will be of better quality than the official upcoming Bethesda remake of Oblivion.

swab148,
@swab148@lemm.ee avatar

This is the “official” remake, though not done by Bethesda.

TachyonTele,

What in the world are you talking about lol

Fingolfinz, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

VI is never happening is it

Stovetop,

It’ll happen. I don’t think it’ll be good, but it’ll happen.

This remaster was made by a different studio, not Bethesda, so I do believe them after they said that TES6 is now in full production following Starfield.

Fingolfinz,

Yeah the amount of time that has passed since Skyrim to whenever the hell it comes out has just been so long that it’ll never live up to the anticipation.

Shit, if the remake is by a different company maybe it’ll fun but I think skyblivion will be the best

surph_ninja, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?

I don’t understand how they successfully patented this without challenge. Call of Cthulhu has a sanity system, and it came out in the 80’s.

Jomega,

Tbf, I think Nintendo might have forgotten they even had this one, seeing as they’ve neither used the mechanic nor enforced the patent since filing it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

surph_ninja,

Good call. They couldn’t have been enforcing. Amnesia had a sanity meter, and it came out in 2010.

unknown1234_5, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

they really doing anything but making elder scrolls 6 huh

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

That game only really went into production after Starfield shipped.

unknown1234_5,

starfield counts as "anything but".

exu,

They need to create some new Creation Engine bugs first

psx_crab,

If you just click on the article and read the first paragraph, you will learn that it’s made by Virtuous.

hal_5700X, (edited ) do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

I have a bad feeling about this. I’m getting GTA The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition flashbacks.

easily3667, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

But that’s the worst one

It’s in the awkward transition between good game Morrowind and mediocre game Skyrim, with the worst parts of both

Stovetop,

Well…more room for improvement, then?

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Having been playing it again recently, it still has a lot of what Morrowind had, and Skyrim doesn’t. Plays like Skyrim, but still has more depth than it. Not a lot more, but still more.

easily3667,

Maybe I should give another chance

Kolanaki, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I don’t think it would be hard to fake these screenshots. Bethesda shadow dropping a game of this high profile within a week, without ever having officially said anything about it or even replying to media asking about it just seems incredibly unlikely.

psx_crab,

Maybe release isn’t likely, but announcement is. Remember they drop Fallout 4 trailer and then saying it’ll come end of year? Maybe that’s the magic they want to recreate.

Whirling_Cloudburst, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?

I always wished they would have done more with the IP. Lovecraftian stuff is always fun.

The new game, “Look Outside” uses a sanity system and is also Cosmic Horror.

Nougat,

I can't tell if "Look Outside" is the name of a real game, or a sarcastic-not-sarcastic commentary on current events.

Whirling_Cloudburst,

Don’t look to closely or it will look back. o.o

Glide,

It can be both.

duchess,

didn’t they get the memo that all indie survival horrors need to be low poly nowadays /s

Glide,

There’s no “sanity” system in Look Outside. The closest thing is a hidden “stress” stat which, last I checked, is literally just combat problems when it gets low.

That said, Look Outside is a fantastic game, and the Dev is super down to earth and active with his players. Highly recommend.

Gibibit, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?

I’m not against patents in general but looking at the list of specific insanity-induced hallucinations being patented this whole thing is ridiculous. This is on the level of being able to patent giving your restaurant guests cutlery. How is any designer supposed to keep track of which specific micro events are patented like this.

brsrklf,

I am against all game design patents in general. You shouldn’t be able to file a patent on game mechanics, like no movie director could have filed a patent on, say, the idea of sequence shot.

Game content (art, characters, etc) is already protected by copyright. Patents have absolutely no business in this.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Wholly agreed. In general the concept that “you can’t patent an idea” or “you can’t patent a general concept” is supposed to be at the heart of patent law. I think some of these game mechanics parents, like this and the Nemesis System, go against that too much.

Angry_Autist,

Sure we all agree but the dumbshits making the rules 1) Have no idea about technology older than color television and 2) Are really only interested in preserving corporate profitability

Xenny, (edited )

No sorry, you can’t paint like that. I patented left to right brush strokes.

catloaf,

If you invented a new and novel method of painting, like Jackson Pollock’s, you could potentially patent that. Directionally brushing has imperial buttloads of prior literal art.

Xenny,

Nah fuck that I should be able to splatter paint and call it my work as well.

Hudell,

If every game had patented everything that they came up with, we probably wouldn’t have reached 1000 total games by now.

Some early game would probably patent “revealing more of the world as you move horizontally/verrically” and we would probably be confined to a single screen for every other game for decade.

Then some other game would patent “using an input source to move a gun’s aim/targetting on the screen” and we would never have had any fps. A “first person view” would probably be patented soon too. Leveling up? What a cool concept that I wish more than one game ever used.

At best, companies would all be paying licenses to each other for all of those mechanics - just like it works on hardware today where Samsung (for example) for a long time made a ton of money out of their main competitor’s sales. And games would probably be so expensive that a lot of them could even have their own dedicated hardware made specifically for them, without affecting the final price that much.

Modern day Nintendo would surely enjoy that. They could make gimmicky hardware for specific games and simply call it a toy. Games like Guitar Hero would probably only be playable on toy guitars (as some other game would’ve already patented translating basic inputs into something rhythm related).

In a way I could see some pretty cool games being invented for a while in this parallel reality, with the patent restrictions forcing people to think of new stuff like the hardware restrictions used to do last century - but we would never had Stardew Valley, Minecraft, Rimworld, Factorio, Dwarf Fortress and 99% of the most beloved games out there.

Angry_Autist,

Yeah well when the copyright courts agreed to Namco’s patent on loading screen minigames it kind of freaked everyone out back then and people patented every dumbshit thing. For a short time Amazon tried to patent the single click purchase

Lanusensei87,
@Lanusensei87@lemmy.world avatar

Outside of the very specific cases of Palworld and WB’s notorious Nemesis System, you probably can just ignore the patents and do whatever you want, many of these are filed for self protection rather than to enforce them.

Metroid Zero Mission’s Mother Brain fight is patented, it literally is about shooting the player when they make line of sight with the Brain eye, besides being utterly ridiculous to have something like this patented, you don’t see anyone going to court over this.

magic_lobster_party,

I think the big problem is when companies apply for patents but never utilize them. In my ideal world, patents should quickly expire and opened to the public if they aren’t being used. Like, what’s the point of protecting your idea if you have no intention to use it anytime soon?

That could deal with the patent troll problem as well.

MrScottyTay,

Yeah I’m not against patents in general because it’s meant to allow the company or individual a chance to be only one on the market so they can recoup rnd costs instead of someone else coming in and undercutting them immediately.

The issue is they last too long. Especially idea ones like this for software. 5 years is what it should be around about.

charles,

I’d even be okay with patents lasting more than 5 years as long as the patented concept is being actively utilized. Essentially, use it or lose it.

Blinsane,

What the point is? To cripple your competition. Nintendo is actively discouraging game development. If Nintendo was a human they would be garbage. Since they’re not human, everyone who choose to work for them is garbage.

Console_Modder, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer
@Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s so fucking weird to drop a remaster or remake like that so suddenly with no advertising or announcement. Something about this still doesn’t feel right in my gut, so I guess I’ll believe it when (if) it does drop. I don’t even know if I am going to buy it if it’s real, I have more faith in the modders behind Skyblivion than I do in Bethesda to actually do right with their IPs

simple,

What’s weird is that they’re still keeping it a secret even though it’s been rumored for months. We know it’s coming, but they’re still acting like it’s going to be a surprise.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Video game marketing changed dramatically about 2 years ago. No one likes long marketing cycles anymore. There are too many opportunities for delays or “puddlegates”.

Stovetop,

Microsoft likes doing shadowdrops, apparently. Hi-Fi Rush being the most prominent, but they also shadowdropped the Ninja Gaiden 2 remake a few months ago.

TachyonTele,

Bethesda used to have a very short time between announcements and release. This game isn’t made by them, but they probably made the devs keep a tight lid on it.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

i think its a panic project that was fired up quickly because Starfield failed so miserably.

unless this was just a side project that a few devs were working on and it was latched on to as a product that could be focused on.

i suspect that while todd was failing to put out fires, a couple devs were like “should we tell them we’ve been messing around with Oblivion assets in our new engine?”

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

No, they contracted this game out to another developer, and it’s in Unreal. It’s been in the works for a long time. If they’re smart, it’s a testbed for getting future games off of their usual Creation engine.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

ooooooh! I’m very happy to have been corrected. it might actually be decent, then!

thank you much for the info. that’s interesting.

femtech,

343 is doing the same with halo.

bilb,
!deleted4216 avatar

I hope they made it impossible to mod. In my new but rapidly growing religion, “modding” (desacrating) games is a mortal sin. Elder Scrolls games have damned the souls of many hairy, soft-bodied men.

iAmTheTot, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

Honestly, I don’t have a ton of faith in Bethesda anymore, so I don’t care much for the next game. This on the other hand, as I understand it, was handled by another studio which has delivered great remasters and remakes, so I’m actually kinda stoked for it. I could play through Oblivion again, it’s been years.

DarthFrodo,

Skyblivion (the fan remake) will probably have much more attention to detail and will also release this year, after over 10 years of development. The dev log videos look amazing. I’d be very surprised if the official remake is as good.

iAmTheTot,

I really admire the work of the Skyblivion crew, as well as the ones remaking Morrowind, but I’m not quite as cynical as you regarding the official. As I said, I think the studio has handled some good remasters in the past and I think it will be done well.

Stovetop,

The only part that gives me pause is that this is supposedly in Unreal Engine rather than Bethesda’s usual engine.

Not to say that there won’t be a modding scene, but it will be substantially different without the equivalent of the Construction Set/GECK/Creation Kit.

iAmTheTot,

I admit this is less of a concern to me because I don’t do a lot of modding, but I can definitely understand that disappointment for those that do. With a different engine, though, I do hope it will be less buggy.

TommySoda, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

My only thing is that I hope they fixed some of the blaring issues with the original. I still go back and play Oblivion from time to time, but I usually have to spend 4 or 5 hours just downloading and installing mods. My biggest gripe with Oblivion has always been enemy scaling. Unless you do the main quest first you’ll be fighting the strongest enemies in the game by the time you get around to it.

Houseman,

I used those glitches to my advantage thank you very much.

catloaf,

Considering Skyrim and Fallout 4 inherited bugs from Morrowind, I’m sure this has inherited them again. And I’m sure everything feels just as janky.

Edit: actually this is on UE5 from a third party, so I’m hopeful it won’t have that Bethesda feel.

Auntievenim,

Theres no way I’m reading this in real life

We’re saying the oblivion port to UE5 is going to be less buggy? That makes you hopeful?? What is this place??? Did the gta trilogy not make it to lemmy?

catloaf,

The only GTA game I’ve played was the one on the DS, so 🤷‍♂️

Stovetop,

I mean, despite whatever reputation UE5 may have, Oblivion was legendarily buggy. Oblivion defined Bethesda’s reputation for producing bug-riddled games.

But that is honestly part of the charm.

DarkMetatron,

The Bethesda feel is way I buy the games, the Bethesda feel is what makes the games. So I really hope that the Bethesda feel is still there.

Philote, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

Feels on brand for Bethesda to secret release this just before skyblivion mod finally gets near their release date. Kind of feels like a slap in the face to the community. I guess we will get a who did it better comparison.

Nilz,

Unless they DMCA the Skyblivion mod.

catloaf,

Usually they do that shortly before announcing their own, like Nintendo with AM2R. Maybe they won’t do it at all.

dinckelman,

Unlikely to happen, because the leadership behind the project claimed they are in contact with Bethesda, to make sure no one’s stepping on anyone’s toes. Although obviously they can just pull the rug at any time, which would be catastrophic. Given that they’ve remade basically every single asset in the game, and require the original game to be owned and installed, it should be fine

drivepiler,

Games in plural, as well as all DLCs $$

zenpocalypse,

Also, it’s likely to drive sales for Bethesda, considering

the requirement of owning Skyrim Special Edition and Oblivion GOTY Deluxe.

slazer2au,

Sounds like what they did to fallout London.

Stovetop,

I am actually not even sure how much input Bethesda had in this. It was remastered by an outside studio contracted by Microsoft. The same studio handling the remaster of Metal Gear Solid 3, apparently.

Ashen44, do gaming w Death Stranding 2 will let you clear bosses without actually defeating them

As a diehard(man) Death Stranding fan, I gotta say the boss fights were easily the worst part of the game. I always turn the difficulty up to maximum when I’m doing a new playthrough because the game just feels more impactful and fun when there’s an actual sense of danger, but it goes straight down to easy mode whenever a boss comes out cause I am not dealing with that lol

While I’ll definitely be doing the bossfights the first time around in DS2 this feature will probably save my future playthroughs. It’s just always nice to see more options for letting players engage with the game in the ways they want to.

ka1ikasan,

Didn’t play the first one yet, but your insight is very interesting. Honestly, I cannot understand why any game wouldn’t offer the “storytelling” mode. It’s a solo game, just let people play how they want to. It’s like selling a toy car and saying “You can only drive it on a carpet with four wheels touching the ground at any time”. Nope, my (hypothetical) toy cars will be goddamn submarines if I want them to.

Ashen44,

I 100% agree. Games are about what’s fun, and that differs for everybody. Difficulty selection exists for a reason. My mom LOVES the playstation first party games (god of war, horizon, etc) but she always plays them on story mode. It’s not because she can’t handle any higher difficulties (she’s been gaming since before I was born), she simply doesn’t care about the challenge and just wants to experience the story.

Games are for us to enjoy, and short of cheating in a multiplayer game I don’t really think there’s a wrong eay to enjoy them. Opening up more avenues for more people to enjoy them is just a net positive in my opinion.

prole,

Death Standing is a single player game, but I’m not sure I would call it a “solo” game.

I don’t want to spoil it for you, but the “asynchronous multiplayer” stuff, and how the delivery process evolving over time through cooperation with real people you will never see or meet, parallels the story, was my favorite part of the game. And why I will be 100% playing the sequel.

ka1ikasan,

Oh right! It’s not a spoiler, it was one one the announced features, I just misused solo vs single-player.

prole,

I’ve been literally at the end of the game (right before the end segment, which is very long from what I understand) for like 2 years.

I really enjoyed the game, but wasn’t a huge fan of the times where they took you out of the main gameplay loop for some story shit that, let’s be honest, is barely coherent. Which is why I haven’t started the final segment.

I’ll have to do it before the sequel comes out I guess… How long should I expect that final segment to be? Movie-length?

Ashen44,

Definitely set some time aside to do the final segment. I’m not sure exactly where you are before the end segment, but assuming you’re right before edge knot city you’ve probably got about 4-5 hours left for the main story, if you take your time with it. There’s probably like an hour or two of cutscenes there though and you can absolutely rush the gameplay sections so if you really don’t care about the story you can probably shave that down to under 2 hours. It’s still a commitment though that’s for sure.

Zoot,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

"At the end i believe? Spoilers ahead"Where would I be when you lose the baby? The game just always freaked me out and knowing I’m going to face some kind of boss and not have any help from it made me put down the game many years ago and I’ve never been able to get back into it

Ashen44,

If you mean chapter 14, post Edge Knot CityWhen you’re taking Lou to the incinerator

You’re right at the end, there’s no more bosses. It’s just a bit of hiking and then a bunch of cutscenes. Then you’re in the epilogue and time rewinds so you can keep playing. Might be a bit of a weird place to start playing again though, as you just boot up the game after so many years just to watch a cutscene or two and then credits roll lol.

If you mean chapter 6, before reaching Edge Knot CityWhen Deadman takes the baby to recalibrate it

As you can probably guess by the chapter numbers, you are nowhere near the end of the game, sorry. There IS a bossfight, but you only have to do the first section alone, then you reunite and do the actual main fight together.

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