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Rooty, (edited ) do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

BMW looks like a terribly mediocre souls-like, and it’s like 60 bucks on Steam. The hype surrounding it is manufactured AF.

DragonTypeWyvern,

12 souls-like fans absolutely furious

DNU, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

I’d be ashamed too, losing to astro bot. What I’ve heard from the Platformer community is that while the game is good, it’s very short and lacks in the amount of unique areas (and enemies?) and as such is more or less blitz and glamour. Like, props to sony for producing jump and runs, but still…

Ostrakon,

I just finished Astro Bot and it is a very good game. However, it is very derivative of Mario to the point where it is very clearly a Mario game, except you are collecting PlayStation member-berries instead of stars or whatever.

I loved it, but I have a hard time justifying it as GotY. IMO it should have gone to Wukong or Balatro.

gcheliotis, (edited ) do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

While he comes off as a jerk, and possibly is one, I can understand the sentiment, having spent a few years of my life among ethnically Chinese people in Asia. There is this drive and aspiration to be recognized by leading brands in the West as equals, perhaps even betters. Due to a history of subservience and shame and a strong nationalistic current seeking to undo that.

This game is one of the most ambitious and accomplished to come out of China and they’re hungering for that kind of recognition. So it is likely that fans of the game feel it was ‘stolen’ from them and he seems to be responding to that sentiment. To us it looks petty, but to some of the game’s most ardent Chinese fans this may have been an appropriate response. Not sure how this was received in China though, just speculating.

Semjaza, (edited )

The last three weeks or so of Chinese video game reporting has basically been:

“They’ll never shortlist us for GotY. They’ll never choose a Chinese game for GotY. It’s all a Western ploy to denigrate and deny Chinese achievement because They are jealous that the first Chinese AAA game is so good.”

It’s been tiring.

Edit: just opened up my Chinese feeds, and I’m glad to report that the first one I found was criticising netizens for review bombing BG3 and defending the Larian speech, and giving it a more detailed translation.

gcheliotis,

I wasn’t aware, but basically this confirms my suspicion above regarding how this is playing out in the Chinese psyche so to speak.

gcheliotis,

They review-bombed BG3? For shame. Why?

caseyweederman,

Because they couldn’t review-bomb Astrobot since Astrobot isn’t on Steam.

NuXCOM_90Percent, (edited )

THAT actually probably was a translation error (unlike “oh, he is not a disgusting misogynistic piece of shit. You are just racist and so is google translate”).

Swen’s speech was (paraphrasing) about how an oracle told him that the future GOTYs will all be games made because they are games the studios wanted to make and were allowed to make without fear of layoffs (which is why it was ironic that a studio that came out of Sony gutting Team Japan won…).

But a lot of chuds and CCP mouthpieces keyed in on the “An oracle told me” narrative framing as an indication that it was all rigged. In large part because they are fucking morons who don’t realize they were voting on a different category when they rushed that vote harder than a gamefaqs poll with Aeris in it.

And Swen is head (?) of Larian who made Baldurs Gate 3.

Also: BG3 is, in scientific terms, gay as all fuck. So the chuds who were already focusing on BMWukong because “it understand that women should be sexy” and whatever other “anti-DEI” bullshit they are radicalizing people with, saw an opportunity to pick a fight now that the mass support of BG3 is somewhat waning.

batmaniam,

Not going to lie, despite loving the stories about the monkey king, I skipped it entirely because of the notes they sent to content creators. Which would also be why I skip movies and games that take the US’ DoD money. I’m glad it got passed over.

aciDC14, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

Pizza Tower: «First time?.»

acosmichippo, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

there’s an easy fix for that, don’t come anymore.

RightHandOfIkaros,

there’s an easy fix for that, don’t come anymore.

How very warm and inviting of you. Im glad there are such welcoming people as you, that are excited to see new studios trying to make good games instead of the same old slop we get from the same old companies.

/s, in case anyone couldn’t tell. What an intolerant comment.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Oh boo hoo, they’re intolerant of a rude person. Get a grip and stop defending this adult tantrum.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Lol.

“Come to Lemmy, we are so tolerant and super chill!”

Yeah, so that was a lie.

Gradually_Adjusting,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t feel you came on a bit strong? Did you actually expect a sensitive and conciliatory response to your comment?

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

No one said that.

Come to Lemmy because we’re a bunch of leftists who won’t hate you for who you were born. We sure as fuck are going to hate you for being an arsehole.

leftzero,

we are so tolerant and super chill

No we’re not, fuck off.

slaacaa,

You are free to leave

Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

You know the fediverse is huge, you can just move to some place you like more.

(I don’t want to be rude, I’m just telling you because your comment seems to indicate that you had more unpleasant encounters here.)

acosmichippo,
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Roflmasterbigpimp,
@Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

Another solution is to place tolerance in the context of social contract theory: to wit, tolerance should not be considered a virtue or moral principle, but rather an unspoken agreement within society to tolerate one another’s differences as long as no harm to others arises from same. In this formulation, one being intolerant is violating the contract, and therefore is no longer protected by it against the rest of society.

cybervseas, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

As the article says, since his comments were run through machine translation, it’s possible they’re meant more in jest rather than seriously. I’ll keep a charitable perspective on this until we learn more.

inclementimmigrant,

Since last night, I’ve seen a lot of strong dissatisfaction and frustration in players’ comments - often expressed humorously or ironically, which made me laugh,"

Jest or not, this one statement is irresponsible because this will only serve to encourage bad and toxic behavior and you know that’s how immature gamers will take it, as condoning their behavior.

jaggedrobotpubes,

The comment you responded to covered all that. It’s possible it’s a translation/tone error. No reason to assume face value given the stakes.

If that ends up being not the case, then ok.

inclementimmigrant,

No the OP did not. I’m literally saying tone does not matter and even if it was a flippant remark, gamers will take that as approval of their bullshit behavior.

Let’s face it, gamers are all too often immature assholes, Westerner, Easterners, wherever.

But whatever, people disagree and that’s fine.

Lumidaub,
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Then that would be the gamers’ fault, not the producer’s. They’re not responsible for how their comment may not only be taken out of context but also translated in a disadvantageous way.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

except we know Chinese people have been review bombing other games because BMW didn’t win. Sure doesn’t seem like a joke to them.

Viri4thus,

This is based on a shit article from the shitrag “TheGamer” that calls 500 players downvoting a game a movement. There’s 1,4B people in China, 500 votes don’t even register. TheGamer is a clickbait/ragebait shitrag that weaponises xenophobia/culture wars/ignorace to generate traffic. They are the precise example of the enshitification of the Internet. Veritable parasites.

RightHandOfIkaros,

I got heavily downvoted for pointing out “TheGamer” as a poor source of gaming journalism in a post specifically linking to that article. So I guess that tells me everything I need to know about Lemmy?

nialv7,

i read the original on weibo and he appears to be (to me at least) fully serious. tried to invoke nationalistic pride as well

bricklove, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

Not the journey to the west he had hoped for

emax_gomax,

Damn it. This is gold. Take my upvote.

CaptainBasculin, do gaming w Unpacking developer calls out Nintendo after reporting "cheap fakes" on its eShop [Eurogamer]

I am of the opinion that a gameplay idea should not be held solely by a single entity. That could backfire real fast.

However, using a trademarked name while copying it should definetly lean into illegal territory.

CosmoNova, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

China mad Japan won in American awards. You love to see it.

ZeroHora,
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This year Japan was try-harding so much

deus,

Were they? Last year they had Mario and Zelda and the year before they had Elden Ring. This year doesn’t feel particularly strong.

ZeroHora,
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Look at the nominee in all categories, they had Astro bot, Elden Ring DLC, FF7, Metaphor Refantazio, Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, they had a lot of games this year and they are all competing in different categories.

theangriestbird, do gaming w Unpacking developer calls out Nintendo after reporting "cheap fakes" on its eShop [Eurogamer]

if others do it with Nintendo’s property, it’s copyright theft. If Nintendo profits from people doing with other properties, it’s business as usual.

DebatableRaccoon,

Nintendo really is the Disney of video games.

tacosanonymous, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

I was not surprised how well Astro Bot did. It was accessible and well made. Sam Lake nailed it with his little speech.

frigidaphelion, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

This game looked nice and was awful to play. There isnt really anything else to say.

icecreamtaco, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

That’s how awards work lmao. 5 losers, one winner

Glide,

One winner and five nominee’s. Let’s not downplay being in the top 6 nominations for “best game of the year” as “losing.” It’s an incredible achievement no matter how you look at it.

drdiddlybadger,
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Especially for a fresh team that’s amazing.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah you’re right

dance_ninja, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

Machine translated comments are here: reddit.com/…/game_producer_of_black_myth_wukongs_…

Chinese translations aren’t always the best in my experience, so hard to tell what’s serious vs what’s said in a joking manner.

My partner has been playing BMWK, and from what I’ve seen it’s an excellent effort for a studio known for mobile games. That being said, there’s noticeably rough edges, so I’m not surprised it didn’t get game of the year (whatever the decision criteria is).

Glide, do games w Black Myth: Wukong producer on The Game Awards top prize snub: "I came all the way here for nothing!"

Man, calling this a snub is a misnomer to begin with.

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