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Crikeste, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

I wonder how many loot boxes will be made and how many lives ruined….

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

So Team Fortress 3

Laser,

One might think so, but the number 3 in the potential title makes this highly unlikely.

DudeImMacGyver,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

No, no, that’s not how this works. No 3s, them’s the rules.

enleeten,

No, Counterstrike 2: Good Edition.

aciDC14,

Team Fortress 2.5

wax,

Team Fortress: Alyx

Kyrgizion, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Whatever it ends up being, I’m not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would’ve been better.

Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don’t doubt Valve’s technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it’s technically the best turd in the world.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s unfortunate that it’s not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it’s not to your tastes doesn’t mean it’s a waste of their talent.

Kyrgizion,

Oh absolutely. I’m not conceited enough to imagine Valve is developing games for me or that I’m entitled to anything. Just venting my personal disappointment with their choice. I still consider them the cream of the crop in game and hardware development.

Peffse, (edited )

I’m just curious why Valve looked at the oversaturated hero shooter market (seriously, we’ve had failures 8 years ago now) and said “Oh yeah, let’s devote our resources there”

edit: Like, I seriously can’t understand it. Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

Overwatch 2 didn’t fall because it’s a hero shooter

Peffse,

this is where you say “It failed because…”

My assertion was that it was an imperfect hero shooter among many hero shooters. The more competition, the harder it is to enter a game.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

this is where you say “It failed because…”

Gestures broadly

Not really my responsibility to make an argument for you. Of all the reasons Overwatch 2 might not have performed well, it being a Hero Shooter doesn’t have any strong evidence and you didn’t provide anything showing that was the reason.

One could argue Overwatch 2 being a Hero Shooter is why it didn’t perform worse than it already has, given its problems.

Peffse,
CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar
  1. Blizzard is bad at balancing the game - could be true of any game, doesn’t have to be a shooter
  2. Blizzard cancels promised mode - Blizzard being bad at design and following through on promises.
  3. See 1.
  4. Forcing a game to become the sequel, not making meaningful changes other than monetization
  5. See 1
  6. Blizzard made a bad game

None of these are a result of Overwatch 2 being a shooter, and all of them are a result of Blizzard being shit at making quality games, caring about players, and following through on promises. So thank you, you have done a fantastic job demonstrating that Overwatch 2 being a shooter is not the reason it didn’t perform well.

CosmoNova,

Competitive online games have been Valve‘s focus for well over a decade so it‘s in line with their portfolio. If anything, Alyx was an outlier they only did because they have a headset to sell it with. I think they know what they‘re doing. Sucks for you to not be their target audience though because they are pretty good at making games.

Rakonat, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Me reading the headline: “Why would Valve make a porn shooter?”

Cethin,

Seeing the Steam store lately I’m honestly surprised there isn’t a porn shooter. Imagine if someone went all in making an OW ripoff, but committed to making adult skins. Think about how much money that could make.

RandomWalker, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Sounds more like TF2 crossed with DOTA, which sounds weirdly fun and hella toxic.

ji59,

Isn't Smite exactly this?

JJROKCZ,

Ish, smite is literally a MOBA with the camera sitting behind the characters shoulder instead of top-down.

Easiest and only description of SMITE is third-person MOBA. I’ve played since 2012

Sabata11792,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

I can't wait to be called new and exciting racial slurs as I lose the game for my team.

mynachmadarch,

Or bring back the classics. I haven't been called a swamp kisser in a while.

Sabata11792,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

I don't want to get banned but just assume I tend to go 1 and 15 and every notices every time.

ColeSloth,

I bet it will be made to run awesome on steam deck.

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

Try out Predecessor, it’s F2P and exactly this

CosmoNova,

Can you imagine the chaos of a veteran Dota2 player being matched with a notorious conga dancer?

CosmoNova, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Team Fortress th-… 2: episode 1?

mox, (edited ) do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
wafflez,

Tysm

stardust, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

I just want a nice story driven single player game from Valve again that isn’t VR.

FeelzGoodMan420,

Me too but it’ll never happen. The age of good single player AAA games are long long gone.

Openopenopenopen,

Wasn’t last years game of the year, Baldurs gate 3, a triple Aaa, single player, game that had an amazing story?

FeelzGoodMan420,

Looks like there is debate on whether that studio is AAA. So maybe, yea.

Quazatron,
@Quazatron@lemmy.world avatar

Hang on, that is a single player game? I now auto-discard AAA games up front because most of them are online multiplayer affairs with fancy in-game items to purchase and silly anti-cheat gimmicks that give Linux users a hard time.

I might look into buying this one, then.

TexasDrunk,

Yep. You can play alone, couch co-op with controllers, or with friends online if that’s what you’re into. I’ve logged a couple of hundred hours alone and another hundred or so couch co-op.

LyD,

I want to play it in couch co-op but I kept hearing that you miss out on content by playing it that way. For a first playthrough, is that true?

TexasDrunk,

You’re going to miss content no matter how you play. It’s the nature of the game. Some decisions lock you out of options.

I can’t think of anything you’d inherently miss from couch co-op.

JimmyMcGill,

I played through the whole game with my gf and didn’t see nor read anything that would indicate that.

Regardless of if you play, solo or with up to 4 people there are 4 characters in your party. Your main character can be one of the predefined ones or not. You will probably have/want a mix of both.

First play through will take more than 100h and you will still have plenty to see for subsequent playtroughs. It’s literally impossible to see all of it first time regardless of how you play.

Just get it, it’s not just a GOTY, it’s one of the best games in a long while.

emeralddawn45,

No. My girlfriend and I are 140 hours in and still not finished, and I’m amazed at how smooth the coop works with the story. You can each be different places doing different things, or you can travel together, you can each have your own relationships with npcs. A lot of conversations with npcs will repeat depending on who’s talking, but important story ones won’t. As long as you mostly stick together and make choices together, you’ll have every option a single player game does.

assassin_aragorn,

Indeed! You can choose to co-op with friends, but it isn’t necessary at all. It’s a really nice model for RPGs.

TexasDrunk,

Year before was Elden Ring. I’ve never played that one online.

PlantJam,

Have you played A Plague Tale (innocence, then requiem)? It’s one of the best story driven games I’ve ever played. It’s entirely linear, so plot urgency doesn’t feel artificial like it does in open world games.

stardust,

I played the first one but not the second yet. I did enjoyed the experience and the hairstyles stood out for the character designs with the ribbons.

terrifyingtuba,

I liked the plot of this game, but I did not like it as a game. I have not played the second one.

tiredofsametab,

Same. Something I can play, save anywhere to deal with life, and pick back up when time allows. I was one of those weirdos who really enjoyed Doom 3 when it came out (with the ducttape mod; that was one mechanic I didn't like) and grew up on old Commodore, Amiga, and PC single-player games and NES/SNES/Genisis RPGs. I want that again.

antaymonkey, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Valve famously only works on what excites them. You’re yelling me THIS is that?? How utterly defeatingly disappointing.

newthrowaway20,

Bold statement. Might wanna hold judgment till you actually see some gameplay.

Kecessa, (edited )

It goes both ways then, people who are happy should shut up until they see some gameplay.

newthrowaway20,

Yeah I agree.

We don’t know anything yet.

WereCat,

But sir… The comment section? Why are we here?

danthehutt,

People who don’t care are allowed to comment, that’s it.

edgemaster72,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

My time is here

MDKAOD,

Artifact would like a word.

reagansrottencorpse,

While I’ll likely still play this I have to agree.

Breadhax0r,

Typically valve only puts out games that showcase something new, so might be interesting

dustyData,

Looks nervously at counter strike and dota.

smeg,

They were both originally mods that they adopted rather than original creations though, right?

Breadhax0r,

I think, also if I recall both games were genre defining

dsemy, (edited )

Is it really surprising? It’s not like it’s their first competitive shooter.

BruceTwarzen,

Like idk, when overwatch came out, it was an absolute blast. I wasn't looking forward to it at all, i didn't care for it a bit until i played it. It just got run into the ground slowly. Also they made team fortress 2 way WAY before, and yeah that's what they excites them.

GeneralEmergency,

Just think of the loot boxes they can sell.

BurningnnTree,

Valve’s game development division feels more like a weird cult than a proper game company. I don’t think they get “excited” for the things that most people get excited for. (Remember when they were excited for a virtual card game where you have to pay for every card?) The Valve of the 2000s is long gone IMO

DudeImMacGyver, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fuck it, I’m down (unless it’s a moba, then no thanks)

Paradox, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
@Paradox@lemdro.id avatar

overwatch style

You mean team fortress style

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

They had better call it Team Fortress 2 Episode 1.

WereCat,

Team Fortress: Archimedes

Skepticpunk, (edited )

Team Fortress Alpha: Mercenaries’ Dreams

Donjuanme,

Love my plushie, haven’t played but maybe 3-4 hours since acquiring it a decade ago, still have the plushie though.

Thcdenton, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

You know this sounds like battleborn and i miss battleborn. I’m kinda excited.

MustrumR, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

I, for once am excited. I didn't buy Overwatch since I was deeply disappointed in Blizzard, after D3. Then the whole pandering to CCP and Blitzchung fiasco happened and that cemented my decision.

I didn't play Valor ant since I don't enjoy having a Chinese kernel level spyware on my PC.

So this may be something that can satisfy my itch.

curiousPJ, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Somehow I get the feeling Valve still had some lingering feelings about the failure of Valve’s TF2 comp and they’re trying to right their wrongs.

lorty, do games w Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

Why are people angry? This is exactly the kind of game valve has worked on for the last few years.

BurningnnTree,

I’m not angry, but I’m tired of live service esports games. Also the last time Valve arrived late to a trend (Artifact) it didn’t turn out well.

graymess,

Holy shit, I forgot about Artifact lol.

Skepticpunk,

Technically, HL1 was Valve arriving late to a trend. (FPSes)

scops,

Because many of us remember before that, when Valve revolutionized the single player first person genre again and again with the Portal and mainline Half-Life games.

Any other dev would have capitalized on the massive interest in a sequel or at least sold off the property so someone else could have continued those franchises.

fpslem,

Yep. sigh I guess I’ll go replay Portal 2 again. It really is fantastic, I should be happy that we got it when we did.

micka190,

Imagine downvoting someone for saying they’re going to replay one of the best single player games of all time.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

The valve of yesteryear would’ve a great single player campaign to go together with the multiplayer, just like Half-Life.

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