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vividspecter, do games w After parting ways with EA, WRC gets new home and six-year deal to "reboot" rally series

Seems to be just going back to the previous publisher, which didn’t exactly release amazing rally games when they had the license. Maybe they’ll surprise me, but I suspect Dirt Rally 2.0 and Richard Burns Rally will continue to be the main options for a while longer.

Kernal64,

I wouldn’t hold your breath. Word is, those recent EA layoffs hit a lot of the Codemasters people, including the teams working on their rally games. They mostly kept the F1 team because that series inexplicably sells tons every release (never been an F1 fan myself, but there does seem to be an appetite for those games). Anyone not on the F1 team was moved to another internal EA team whose name escapes me at the moment and they’re working as a support team for others.

vividspecter,

I was talking about Nacon (the new/old WRC publisher) not EA or Codemasters, but agreed.

Cethin,

But isn’t that a good thing for this? It means the old Codemasters team is no longer at EA, and maybe they’ll find a job here now.

Kernal64,

In a perfect world, sure, but I only know of one time when most of a team stayed together after being laid off and that was when Sony shut down Evolution Studios and around 80% of them were picked up by Codemasters. It’s not likely to happen again and the Nacon has multiple fully staffed racing teams, including the one that made the WRC games before EA bought Codemasters and destroyed them.

Cethin,

Yeah, it’s not likely to happen, but still EA wasn’t making good use of them. I always hate to see layoffs, but making people with knowledge available, especially when other studios end up with a demand for them, is good. I’m sure they won’t pick up the entire team, but I’d be surprised if some of them don’t end up there.

Kernal64,

EA rarely makes good use of the devs it consumes and destroys, unfortunately. This isn’t even the first racing team that I was a fan of they’ve destroyed. Hell, it’s not even the first British racing team they’ve destroyed. They’re truly a plague on the industry.

While I definitely hope the people laid off all land on their feet, having a handful of people from a large team show up at another studio doesn’t really do anything for us. We’ll never get another DriveClub or OnRush or Dirt 5 because the magic that team made has been scattered to the winds.

Cethin,

We’ll never get the same thing, but I’m always hopeful that some of the people have the knowledge, resources, and desire to spin up new studios at least, where they can make the games they’ve always wanted to make but weren’t allowed to. Certainly they won’t all end up at the same place, and only a few with this studio, but their experience now gets spread to new places outside of EA where I think we can expect better things.

We’ll have to wait and see. Hopefully we get cool indie experiences, like The Art of Rally, as well as more expensive projects, like whatever the WRC game becomes.

Skua, do games w After parting ways with EA, WRC gets new home and six-year deal to "reboot" rally series

Well count me interested. I could really go for a version of Dirt Rally 2 with more multiplayer versatility

turtle,

How was the EA/Codemasters WRC title compared to the Dirt Rally titles? I didn’t buy it because it has Denuvo DRM, even on Steam.

vividspecter,

Seems to still have Denuvo and even has EA anticheat, which means no Linux support, even for single player.

turtle,

Bleargh, I’m glad I didn’t buy it. I’m making preparations to move to Linux.

Skua,

Couldn't tell you I'm afraid, I also haven't bought it. I grabbed DR2 because I saw it really cheap on sale and just wanted a rally sim rather than seeking out a specific one

turtle,

Cool, no worries. I keep meaning to buy DR2 on sale too. I will, eventually.

Skua,

If you're able to, get the version with the all the DLC. I think I paid £5 for that vs £3 for just the base game. The extra stuff is well worth getting

turtle,

Will do, thanks!

baropithecus,

I have both. EA WRC looks, feels and runs WAY worse compared to Dirt Rally 2.0, and that’s on my fairly beefy 5800x3d / 7800 xt desktop machine. Dr2.0 also runs perfectly on my steam deck, while I haven’t even bothered to try running EA WRC on it (it would run like shit if it ran at all, plus the install size is like a gajillion GB).

On the upside, the tracks are way bigger / longer in EA WRC, some of them are a bit more interesting, and there’s a cool pseudo-roguelite mechanic in the campaign mode where every week you choose what to do (main race or side race to appease the sponsor, recruitment of team members, resting, etc.). That said, I couldn’t bring myself to finish a single season due to how pathetically janky the driving is.

turtle,

Yikes! Good to know, thanks! I’m doubly glad I didn’t buy it now. I still have to buy DR2 anyway.

Interesting about the stages and mechanics. I love long/realistic stages, but that’s not enough to overcome the other issues.

baropithecus,

Be sure to grab it (DR 2.0, that is) before it’s inevitably delisted, it happens with all heavily licensed games. Even the original Dirt Rally is still fantastic if you have an older rig IMO, and it was going for two bucks years ago.

turtle,

Yikes, good point! I do have the original Dirt Rally and don’t want to miss out on 2.0.

HereIAm,

Well, you wouldn’t get far even trying to run EA WRC on the steam deck, as they added kernel level anti cheat after launch so it’s now incompatible with Linux.

HollowNaught, do games w Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time hits 500,000 sales in three days
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This game was one of the games that defined my childhood. I was so surprised when I found out it was getting a sequel, let alone that sequel actually being good

nullpotential, do gaming w Elden Ring live-action film officially in development
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I’m so tired of the commodification of everything.

TheRtRevKaiser,
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Not sure I understand this take. The game was a commercial product, Fromsoft made it to sell to people. That doesn’t preclude it from being art, and a film adaptation being made of it also doesn’t preclude that.

A24 has a pretty good reputation for taking risks, and they’re an independent production company. Seems like probably the best possible way something like an Elden Ring film could be made, IMO.

thingsiplay, do gaming w Elden Ring live-action film officially in development

Here is how the film could look like:

Getting Naked in the Middle by Deerstalker Pictures, YouTube - 2:54min

Coelacanth, do gaming w Elden Ring live-action film officially in development
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Spoiler alert: for an authentic representation of the game the movie will just be two hours straight of:

“I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella and I have never known defeat”

TransplantedSconie,
DibbleDabble,

And the Director’s Cut would have 8 hours of it.

SteevyT,

You don’t thing “OH THE PAIN…THE EXQUISITE PAIN…” needs to be peppered in there?

markovs_gun, (edited ) do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Idk. I think gamers are overly upset about $80 games. While I am sympathetic to not wanting the price to go up, the fact of the matter is that brand new video games cost pretty much the same as they did 30 years ago, while the cost of everything else has basically doubled in that time. I know it’s probably not what is going to happen but if $80 video games are what it takes to get us away from shitty microtransactions in full price games, then I’m all for it. I know the crowd on Lemmy will just say they should make less profit and do neither but that’s just not how the world works right now and nobody is going to do that.

Food for thought- here are some prices in 1996 and today

New video game: 1996- $67 (Super Mario 64), 2025- $70

McDonald’s Big Mac meal: 1996- $2.45, 2025-$9.29

Base package Honda Civic: 1996- $10,360, 2025-$24,250

Average apartment - 1996- $550/mo, 2025- $1,540/mo

Median annual income- 1996- $20,109, 2025- $50,200

Doesn’t one of these stand out?

inclementimmigrant,

And let’s take this outside of the myopic view of only looking at inflation.

visualcapitalist.com/video-game-industry-revenues…

Console gaming revenue: 1996 - 7 billion, 2022 - 30 billion

Let’s look at specifically Nintendo here since we’re talking about Super Mario 64

www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2001/011121e.pdf

2001, 664 million in profit, adjusted for inflation in 2022 dollars, 1 billion.

www.tweaktown.com/news/84668/…/index.html

2022, 1.7 billion dollars in profit.

You forget that in 1996 the gaming pool was also magnitudes smaller compared to today and despite all of the whining about increased development costs, which I also think is bullshit but that’s a different conversation, profits have increased to keep up.

So my opinion, no there’s absolutely no justification for a 80 dollar price point when you look at the over all picture.

BlameTheAntifa, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Pitchford gives off some strong “do you guys not have phones” energy. He’s so out of touch it’s astounding.

schwim, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Or wait the number of years it takes to be on sale for $20.

Etterra, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Fuck you, I’m not paying $80 for a game so an executive can get a new Porsche.

Krauerking, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

If I was a real fan.
Nah na na na na na na na na

Thank you Gwen Stefani for saying all the na’s for me.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Im always thrown off as a Canadian when I see these headlines because we’ve been paying $80 for games for decades.

Video games haven’t risen in cost with inflation and they’re much better and bigger now so I’m not super upset, but they are now at the point where I won’t buy a game at release or full price. I think the new price here is $93 cause that’s what the new Indiana jones is going for

What I hate most is that the game actually costs $150 and they split it and give you a stripped version for $80. I think gta 4 was the last game i truly felt made sense, game releases, we buy it, story dlc comes out later we get it, transaction over. No online bullshit that tries to keep you paying money into the game without end. Not a game split into little chunks and sold as tiers at release

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Video games haven’t risen in cost with inflation and they’re much better and bigger now

I agree with the bigger, but not better tbh

MoonHawk,

No one is asking them to grow x50 for every successful game they sell. Sure they have more expenses but how is it in any way relevant to the consumer? There’s no shortage of studios increasing budget massively and then shitting the bed when it comes to quality and actual gameplay. They are literally doing that to themselves.

JordanZ, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

I didn’t pay anywhere near $80 for Borderlands 1-3+ all the DLC…. So um. No. I’m in no hurry.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fe80d219-b133-4d1d-9a4a-1b2c8539bc90.jpeg

This isn’t all the games but it goes on for like another 2 screens worth for all the DLC…

Zahille7,

I bought the full collection last year for like $50. $20 for the first three and all DLC, and like $30 for the complete Borderlands 3 (I had gotten the other ones so decided to just get the full series).

Then I actually went and got Wonderlands and had an actual blast playing it.

sixtoe, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

ugh. i wont even pirate it. gross

KingOogaBooga, do games w $80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

Yarrr Matey, they’ll find a way.

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