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squirrelwithnut, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts

RIP the next Mass Effect. :<

snooggums,
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It's not like Mass Effect was known for it's story and writing.

mihnt,
@mihnt@kbin.social avatar

First two were good, 3 was, well...

BarrelAgedBoredom,

The ending to 3 was a bit of a cop out and generally out of line with the narrative of the game up to that point. Everything proceeding that was fantastic though. Still an 8/10 in my book

zecg,
@zecg@lemmy.world avatar

They hated you because you told them the truth. Haven’t played ME3, pretty much solely because the ending of 2 with the

spoilergiant skeleton fight

was so abysmally stupid.

constnt,

They canned the writers from 1 and 2 and promoted this goober who said that “Twilight was good writing” to finish the 3rd game.

Which is why we go from having Shepard being such a badass the Reapers tried to make a reaper version of humans, to all of a sudden being all PTSD about shit.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the worst writing change you can think of? That Shepard is finally showing signs of indoctrination PTSD?

There’s so much more to the 3rd game’s narrative that they messed up, PTSD isn’t even on the map.

constnt,

I didn’t say it was the worst writing change I can think of?

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

True, I’m just shocked you’d use that as the comparison to why 3 was bad lol

Rakonat,

Lead writer left after 2 and his replacement was kind of known for not getting along well with his predecessor. So its still not clear if he intentionally made changes to the plan that had been put in place or if he just never actually read the design doc that had been left for consistency.

RazorsLedge,

You’re joking, right?

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

[X] Yes

[A] No

[B] Seduce

Rakonat,

Honestly only room for improvement here. The OG writer for ME wrote ME1 & 2 with ME3 being a guy who supposedly squabbled with him over details and abruptly changed course and retcons, and some even trying to put some of the worst ideas of Andromeda as stuff he passed on for them to use (note: this last one is mostly speculation without real proof to best of my knowledge)

Recent, last 10 years or so, Bioware games have not had the quality of writing they were known for in the 90s and 00s, with some charitable takes on TORs overall writing as being very shotgun approach and seeing what sticks and the fans react well to rather than a very clear end point in mind from the start.

Thebazilly,

RIP Dreadwolf.

WolfhoundRO, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts

This is not good news. Seems like Bioware gets to be more of a support studio for EA from now on

Goblin_Mode,

Kinda has been for a while tbh

LordBelphegor, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts

do CEOs think AI is gonna fill in? lol

nanoUFO,
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They don’t care about the quality as long as it’s passable most of these people are underpaid anyway. AAA setting the bar lower and lower is nothing new.

faethon, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts
@faethon@lemmy.world avatar

So, is the writing staff getting replaced by ChatGPT or any other LLM?

darkkite,

a sidegrade compared to recent output, but a regression from their classics

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Probably just less experienced writers that can be paid less and pushed around more. Thus leading to the continual quality reduction of all modern media.

c0mbatbag3l, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts
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“Why do we need writers on staff all the time? They can just write the story and then we can fire them! What’s the worst that could happen? We have to do millions of dollars worth of rework because we didn’t pay someone five figures to stick around 24/7 and modify the story to fit the efforts we’ve already put in? Pshh…”

phi1997, do gaming w Microsoft completely removes recently-nerfed £1/$1 Xbox Game Pass trial

Unsurprising

sirico, (edited ) do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts
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All these studios are ships of Theseus at this point

RxBrad, do gaming w Microsoft completely removes recently-nerfed £1/$1 Xbox Game Pass trial
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Long games like this were never what I spun up a Game Pass trial for anyways. It was always “finish as many 8-12hr games as I can in a month”.

That said, I still have plenty of Microsoft Rewards points racked up for the next time I decide to do this for free…

ryven, do gaming w Microsoft completely removes recently-nerfed £1/$1 Xbox Game Pass trial
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Well, if I didn’t sign up when it was $1, I’m certainly not going to now…

RxBrad, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts
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Would Mass Effect Andromeda’s writers be considered senior staff at this point?

UrPartnerInCrime, (edited )
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s what I was wondering. This may not be a terrible decison.

Edit: because I didn’t read I was wrong

TheMinions,

From the article:

As part of its recently publicised cutbacks, BioWare has “let go of” Lukas Kristjanson, the lead writer behind Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2, and the writer of the first three Dragon Age games, Mary Kirby.

killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

Welp

GreenMario,

I didn’t even think they had anyone from the BG era still there.

Imagine having the same job for 23 years and then going “fuck you bye”.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

There is no social contract anymore.

TWeaK,

I wouldn’t mind it, typically that level of service comes with redundancy pay. Depends where he was based, if he was working in the US then he’d probably be left high and dry, because US employment is shit.

MrScottyTay,

Could’ve been a mutual decision. They may have taken the hot because they were already thinking of leaving at some point anyway. That sort of thing happens sometimes.

naticus,

Lol I don’t even have to imagine that. It’s funny you point out 23 years because that’s exactly how long I worked at my previous job before moving on in 2022.

Steeve,

Dude could be getting a severance package over a year long at this point, I don’t know if that’s a “fuck you bye”

GreenMario,

The good ending.

Blizzard,

The fuck? Hope he gets hired at Larian.

k_rol, do gaming w Microsoft completely removes recently-nerfed £1/$1 Xbox Game Pass trial

But I deserve lots of games for $1! How dare they!?

Iapar, do gaming w Microsoft completely removes recently-nerfed £1/$1 Xbox Game Pass trial
MonkderZweite, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts

Oh. Bioware disassembles itself.

ebenixo, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts

Experience doesn’t matter to companies anymore. They’ll get college hires to do the role and reward them for mediocrity

NathanielThomas, do games w BioWare lays off senior writing staff as part of its recent job cuts

Writers, who the fuck needs them, eh?

It’s not like writers ever made Mass Effect good or anything. I mean, something something Reapers, big whatever.

Kahlenar,

Well, now I can’t tell if the writing for ME was good or bad

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