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deegeese, do games w "There comes a time when we all declare the war is over": Former PlayStation Studios boss Shawn Layden on the future of video game consoles

Can someone make this make sense?

You know the Sony fanbase gets really upset whenever a game comes out on PC

mesamunefire,

Im just not seeing it honestly. Most people just dont care, they only have enough $$ for one major console. And then they go with that console for a while. Its only the diehards that care and that may be who is “complaining”.

DomeGuy,

There is a mythical “Sony fan” customer who pays extra for their video game consoles, and justified that by believing it comes with a right to be special and awesome and play games no one else is allowed to.

It’s a pantomine of a Nintendo fan, who pays for an underpowered console for first-party games that use unique controllers. None of whom would ever complain if their games were sold on PC so long as they could bring the controller over.

AFAIK, the only real people who want exclusives on PlayStation are Sony employees and shareholders.

dogslayeggs,

I know there WERE Sony fans who would get upset that their exclusives would come out on other platforms. Back in the very early 2000s, fanboys would get irate at the smallest perceived slight to their preferred platform. But that hasn’t been more than a very niche thing for a decade. Almost nobody cares now.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w "There comes a time when we all declare the war is over": Former PlayStation Studios boss Shawn Layden on the future of video game consoles

Then when will Sony stop paying studios to not port their game to platforms other than PlayStation, regardless of time gate? This has been Sony’s playbook since the beginning of their gaming venture, I don’t see them stopping any time soon. Its entirely how they gained such a big market share and keep it. People buy consoles because of the exclusive games.

Nobody would be buying a Switch if I could buy Nintendo games on literally any other console. They would be guaranteed to be running way better than they do on Switch.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I do see them stopping soon. Those deals are benefiting basically no one anymore. Partners like Square Enix are doing way better by putting their games on PC without an exclusivity period. Sony’s not growing their console business over the previous generation, even when their competition has been destroyed. At some point it’s just money down the drain.

slazer2au, do games w "There comes a time when we all declare the war is over": Former PlayStation Studios boss Shawn Layden on the future of video game consoles

If you stopped doing exclusives then there wouldn’t be a “war”. Consumers can get the hardware they think will work for them and get to play everything.

Korkki,

That is not how their business model works. The consoles themselves are sold almost at cost of production or at a loss. The money for Microsoft, Nintendo, Microsoft comes from those exclusives and live service subscriptions. They want to maximize the amount of their hardware in homes and then make the money on selling the thing that actually makes them useful.

Dariusmiles2123, do games w "There comes a time when we all declare the war is over": Former PlayStation Studios boss Shawn Layden on the future of video game consoles

This is a really interesting article!

I’m all for an end to exclusivities. Just let me enjoy whatever I want on whatever platform I want as long as it’s optimized enough.

If Xbox people get Uncharted, I ain’t gonna cry as long as I get Gears of War for instance.

mesamunefire, do games w "There comes a time when we all declare the war is over": Former PlayStation Studios boss Shawn Layden on the future of video game consoles

Its interesting we are seeing the same comments by both playstation and micosoft circles.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Rainbow Six Siege X update detailed, as game goes free-to-play on June 10

So this is not the PvE mode that I was waiting for huh …

Pass.

BmeBenji,

I’m curious- what PvE mode were you hoping for? Like some kind of expansion on what T-hunt used to be?

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Yeah something like that. Maybe a Co-Op story mode (extraction was shit)

halykthered, do games w Rainbow Six Siege X update detailed, as game goes free-to-play on June 10
@halykthered@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m sure that will drastically improve the already wonderful and welcoming community.

BmeBenji,

The ranked pool is limited to paying players still, which is a good way to help keep cheaters out

lath, do games w Saints Row reboot developer "didn't know what they were building", Saber CEO says, criticising shuttered team

He’s a CEO, ergo an idiot.

kane, do games w Saints Row reboot developer "didn't know what they were building", Saber CEO says, criticising shuttered team

As a massive saints row fan, the ‘reboot’ made my jaw drop. Even Gat out of Hell was an enjoyable title compared to this mess. And it barely even had cutscenes!

icecreamtaco, do games w Saints Row reboot developer "didn't know what they were building", Saber CEO says, criticising shuttered team
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

I love SR 3 and 4. But with SR2022 costing twice as much as FF16 it makes sense why it had to be this way

RonnieB, do games w Saints Row reboot developer "didn't know what they were building", Saber CEO says, criticising shuttered team

‘We have American talent [at Saber.] And who could do this for, you know, a quarter of the price in Poland?’

What a shithead

Stovetop, do games w Ubisoft reportedly considering fresh business to own Assassin's Creed and other big franchises, co-owned by others like Tencent

Translation: We can’t find a buyer for our failing company, so next we’ll try to prop ourselves up by selling/leasing our IP.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think they want to sell the company. I think the family that owns the majority of it is doing everything possible to stay in control of the company called Ubisoft, regardless of how many of their IPs they still have left when the dust settles.

lath,

Tencent is supposedly low-key interested in buying something. It’s a rumour though so credibility is unknown.

13igTyme,

Really, tencent is going to buy something? Whoa!

lath,

Anal beads and rosemary scented lube.

hitagi, do games w Rainbow Six Siege X update detailed, as game goes free-to-play on June 10

The new game mode looks like the opposite of R6. The map is more open? Looks COD-like. R6 has always been CQB to me.

The interactive props are cool though.

simple,

Agreed, I’ll need to try it to see how it is. The idea of defending and attacking in one game sounds like it could be fun but quick respawns and an open map is closer to battlefield.

moody,

It’s more cod-like right now, but it’s still more strategic and 3-dimensional. I think once people start getting to know the maps better and strategies start to develop more, the run-and-gun style of play will slow down and people will play more carefully and more objective-oriented.

xnx,

Cqb?

hitagi,

Close Quarter Combat/Battle

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w Ubisoft reportedly considering fresh business to own Assassin's Creed and other big franchises, co-owned by others like Tencent

I feel like something about this should be incredibly illegal, since it basically amounts to Tencent trying to sidestep every other investor in the company to gain total ownership of the valuable IPs.

irish_link, do games w Rainbow Six Siege X update detailed, as game goes free-to-play on June 10

I get free to play, however I am getting frustrated when I purchase a game and then it goes free to play.

Tetsuo,

I get it but I don’t really mind when it’s a very old game. It’s not like your copy of R6 siege has that much value many years after release.

Same goes for OW.

irish_link,

Absolutely true, unfortunately for me I usually purchase games later in their lifespan after most bugs are worked out. It’s not like it goes F2P a year after I purchase but I guess I am just complaining.

If more people get to play it and the game is given new life it’s a good thing.

Phineaz,

Well, can’t speak for R6S, but OW most certainly decreased in quality after it went F2P. We pretty much stopped playing a few months later.

ZeroHora,
@ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

Same goes for OW.

I paid for a 6 x 6 Hero Shooter they gave me a F2P 5 x 5 version with a lot of changes and I cannot ever play again the game that I paid for. I do mind a lot.

Tetsuo,

I bought OW at release and it’s one of the best value I ever got in gaming.

The game was around 40€ many years ago and I had all heroes since release, plenty of lootboxes and skins. And I played hundreds of hours on it. Yes they killed their game in the recent years but that doesn’t mean I didn’t get any value from it. I honestly think they were pretty generous for the first years considering it wasn’t price at 60€ like some CoD.

ZeroHora,
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The problem isn’t the amount of value, they’ve essentially removed OW1, there’s no way to play it again from a game preservation perspective is goddamn awful what they’ve done. Probably the only time you can play it again is when they release an Overwatch Classic for $29.99 in 10 years.

DudeDudenson,

Comically enough they put it in sale on steam

Codilingus,

Ranked will not be F2P. If you already own Seige, you won’t have to pay again for ranked.

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