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WoodScientist, (edited ) do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

I still remember my first playthrough. Low level character. I save scummed until I could sneak into the tower in the heart of the Imperial City. In the council chamber was a mage with an incredibly powerful staff. I pickpocketed it off of him, again using save scumming. I then traveled to Bravil and entered the castle there. As the Count of Bravil was giving a speech, I pulled out the staff and zapped him dead on his throne, right in front the of the whole court. I then got away from the assassination through the brilliant escape plan of running out the front door, murder weapon still in hand.

Damn I loved Oblivion.

Muuuuurrddeeerrr!!!

dogslayeggs,

My favorite story was actually from my buddy’s playthrough. He duped the poison apple from the assassin’s guild quest using the arrow glitch. He then duped it 50 more times and put-pocketed one into everyone’s pockets in a specific town. When they all went to lunch they ate them and died. An entire town of dead people. It was hilarious.

WoodScientist,

An entire town of dead people. It was hilarious.

I see you also follow the life philosophy of, “if you’re not on at least one watch list, are you even really living?” :D

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I beat the entire thieves guild quest line starting at basically level 1 by using the strategy of “run fast”. There were some major flaws that kept me from loving that game properly, so I’m hoping it’s more user friendly with the remake. But I could definitely see a lot of charm in it.

If it isn’t one of the ugliest games I’ve ever played though. Why is every character a shiny, pudgy, orange?

WoodScientist,

Yup. I’m pretty sour on Bethesda RPGs after getting burned hard by Starfield. But I have a hard time imagining even they could fuck up a simple remastering of a game I already loved in the past.

datavoid,

I’ve been save scumming my way through the fighters guild quests for literally 10+ years.

I’m like 1 achievement away from 100%… but holy shit, those trolls are relentless. They take like 40 hits to kill but only need 1-2 to kill you.

nokturne213, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer

At least it is not skyrim again?

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

Now we get 11 years of Oblivion re-releases!

I guess TESVI is already doomed, probably won’t release until after the ice-caps melt.

cannedtuna,

Sounds like we won’t have to wait too much longer then! /s

madame_gaymes,
@madame_gaymes@programming.dev avatar

Shit, you’re right. That was an awful time reference for the joke… it might actually release before the Oblivion remake.

SolidShake,

The first oblivion gate actually just takes you to the Skyrim intro and you can’t leave.

TommySoda,

“Hey you, you’re finally awake.”

sundray,

“Caught trying to cross the boarder from the plane of Oblivion, huh?”

LanguageIsCool,

Lmao gotem

Derpenheim,

Honestly, if it did that, im not sure I’d even be mad. That would be the funniest thing I’ve ever seen a gaming company do

Console_Modder, do games w The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion Remaster is real - Eurogamer
@Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s so fucking weird to drop a remaster or remake like that so suddenly with no advertising or announcement. Something about this still doesn’t feel right in my gut, so I guess I’ll believe it when (if) it does drop. I don’t even know if I am going to buy it if it’s real, I have more faith in the modders behind Skyblivion than I do in Bethesda to actually do right with their IPs

simple,

What’s weird is that they’re still keeping it a secret even though it’s been rumored for months. We know it’s coming, but they’re still acting like it’s going to be a surprise.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Video game marketing changed dramatically about 2 years ago. No one likes long marketing cycles anymore. There are too many opportunities for delays or “puddlegates”.

Stovetop,

Microsoft likes doing shadowdrops, apparently. Hi-Fi Rush being the most prominent, but they also shadowdropped the Ninja Gaiden 2 remake a few months ago.

TachyonTele,

Bethesda used to have a very short time between announcements and release. This game isn’t made by them, but they probably made the devs keep a tight lid on it.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

i think its a panic project that was fired up quickly because Starfield failed so miserably.

unless this was just a side project that a few devs were working on and it was latched on to as a product that could be focused on.

i suspect that while todd was failing to put out fires, a couple devs were like “should we tell them we’ve been messing around with Oblivion assets in our new engine?”

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

No, they contracted this game out to another developer, and it’s in Unreal. It’s been in the works for a long time. If they’re smart, it’s a testbed for getting future games off of their usual Creation engine.

Nima,
@Nima@leminal.space avatar

ooooooh! I’m very happy to have been corrected. it might actually be decent, then!

thank you much for the info. that’s interesting.

femtech,

343 is doing the same with halo.

bilb,
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I hope they made it impossible to mod. In my new but rapidly growing religion, “modding” (desacrating) games is a mortal sin. Elder Scrolls games have damned the souls of many hairy, soft-bodied men.

surph_ninja, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?

I don’t understand how they successfully patented this without challenge. Call of Cthulhu has a sanity system, and it came out in the 80’s.

Jomega,

Tbf, I think Nintendo might have forgotten they even had this one, seeing as they’ve neither used the mechanic nor enforced the patent since filing it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

surph_ninja,

Good call. They couldn’t have been enforcing. Amnesia had a sanity meter, and it came out in 2010.

Lanusensei87, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?
@Lanusensei87@lemmy.world avatar

Nintendo patents almost every mechanic they deem noteworthy, even if they amount to a bunch of gimmicky minigames or interactions. The sanity system, as it currently exists, is very rudimentary and overstays its welcome quickly, I’d argue making something substantially better was always on the table, and that alone would’ve bypassed the patent, so long is not literally the same code or instructions I guess.

Gibibit, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?

I’m not against patents in general but looking at the list of specific insanity-induced hallucinations being patented this whole thing is ridiculous. This is on the level of being able to patent giving your restaurant guests cutlery. How is any designer supposed to keep track of which specific micro events are patented like this.

brsrklf,

I am against all game design patents in general. You shouldn’t be able to file a patent on game mechanics, like no movie director could have filed a patent on, say, the idea of sequence shot.

Game content (art, characters, etc) is already protected by copyright. Patents have absolutely no business in this.

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Wholly agreed. In general the concept that “you can’t patent an idea” or “you can’t patent a general concept” is supposed to be at the heart of patent law. I think some of these game mechanics parents, like this and the Nemesis System, go against that too much.

Angry_Autist,

Sure we all agree but the dumbshits making the rules 1) Have no idea about technology older than color television and 2) Are really only interested in preserving corporate profitability

Xenny, (edited )

No sorry, you can’t paint like that. I patented left to right brush strokes.

catloaf,

If you invented a new and novel method of painting, like Jackson Pollock’s, you could potentially patent that. Directionally brushing has imperial buttloads of prior literal art.

Xenny,

Nah fuck that I should be able to splatter paint and call it my work as well.

Hudell,

If every game had patented everything that they came up with, we probably wouldn’t have reached 1000 total games by now.

Some early game would probably patent “revealing more of the world as you move horizontally/verrically” and we would probably be confined to a single screen for every other game for decade.

Then some other game would patent “using an input source to move a gun’s aim/targetting on the screen” and we would never have had any fps. A “first person view” would probably be patented soon too. Leveling up? What a cool concept that I wish more than one game ever used.

At best, companies would all be paying licenses to each other for all of those mechanics - just like it works on hardware today where Samsung (for example) for a long time made a ton of money out of their main competitor’s sales. And games would probably be so expensive that a lot of them could even have their own dedicated hardware made specifically for them, without affecting the final price that much.

Modern day Nintendo would surely enjoy that. They could make gimmicky hardware for specific games and simply call it a toy. Games like Guitar Hero would probably only be playable on toy guitars (as some other game would’ve already patented translating basic inputs into something rhythm related).

In a way I could see some pretty cool games being invented for a while in this parallel reality, with the patent restrictions forcing people to think of new stuff like the hardware restrictions used to do last century - but we would never had Stardew Valley, Minecraft, Rimworld, Factorio, Dwarf Fortress and 99% of the most beloved games out there.

Angry_Autist,

Yeah well when the copyright courts agreed to Namco’s patent on loading screen minigames it kind of freaked everyone out back then and people patented every dumbshit thing. For a short time Amazon tried to patent the single click purchase

Lanusensei87,
@Lanusensei87@lemmy.world avatar

Outside of the very specific cases of Palworld and WB’s notorious Nemesis System, you probably can just ignore the patents and do whatever you want, many of these are filed for self protection rather than to enforce them.

Metroid Zero Mission’s Mother Brain fight is patented, it literally is about shooting the player when they make line of sight with the Brain eye, besides being utterly ridiculous to have something like this patented, you don’t see anyone going to court over this.

magic_lobster_party,

I think the big problem is when companies apply for patents but never utilize them. In my ideal world, patents should quickly expire and opened to the public if they aren’t being used. Like, what’s the point of protecting your idea if you have no intention to use it anytime soon?

That could deal with the patent troll problem as well.

MrScottyTay,

Yeah I’m not against patents in general because it’s meant to allow the company or individual a chance to be only one on the market so they can recoup rnd costs instead of someone else coming in and undercutting them immediately.

The issue is they last too long. Especially idea ones like this for software. 5 years is what it should be around about.

charles,

I’d even be okay with patents lasting more than 5 years as long as the patented concept is being actively utilized. Essentially, use it or lose it.

Blinsane,

What the point is? To cripple your competition. Nintendo is actively discouraging game development. If Nintendo was a human they would be garbage. Since they’re not human, everyone who choose to work for them is garbage.

nUbee, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?

So Nintendo filed the patent, and paid the maintenance fees over the years. Did they even do anything with it beyond that one game? How much money did they think they gained just by preventing others from implementing a similar mechanic?

MelodiousFunk,

There was supposed to be a sequel but a whole bunch of fuckery kept it from happening.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_Darkness#Cancelled_…

In 2006, Dyack said “absolutely yes” in response to the question of a possible sequel. He stated that Silicon Knights had intended for Eternal Darkness to be a stand-alone game, but they wanted to make more games set in the same universe involving the Ancients.[54][55] At Microsoft’s Spring 2008 Showcase, Dyack said there was a “strong chance” they would return to the Eternal Darkness brand.[56] In 2011, Silicon Knights said they were refocusing on one of their most requested titles for the next generation of consoles. This, combined with the fact that Nintendo had trademarked the title once again, spawned rumors that an Eternal Darkness game would be a launch title for Nintendo’s Wii U console.[57] However, the project was cancelled due to Silicon Knights’ legal troubles with Epic Games.[58] Any possibility for a sequel from Silicon Knights ended in 2013 when Silicon Knights filed for bankruptcy and closed its offices.[59] Nintendo has repeatedly renewed the Eternal Darknesstrademark, stirring rumors of sequels or re-releases.[60][61][62][63]

Followed by Dyack forming another studio, botching three crowdfunding attempts, forming another studio, then shuttering the project.

It really was a mess.

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

Well we can’t say they didn’t try.

Whirling_Cloudburst, do games w Eternal Darkness' infamous sanity system patent has expired - so can anyone now copy it?

I always wished they would have done more with the IP. Lovecraftian stuff is always fun.

The new game, “Look Outside” uses a sanity system and is also Cosmic Horror.

Nougat,

I can't tell if "Look Outside" is the name of a real game, or a sarcastic-not-sarcastic commentary on current events.

Whirling_Cloudburst,

Don’t look to closely or it will look back. o.o

Glide,

It can be both.

duchess,

didn’t they get the memo that all indie survival horrors need to be low poly nowadays /s

Glide,

There’s no “sanity” system in Look Outside. The closest thing is a hidden “stress” stat which, last I checked, is literally just combat problems when it gets low.

That said, Look Outside is a fantastic game, and the Dev is super down to earth and active with his players. Highly recommend.

Ashen44, do gaming w Death Stranding 2 will let you clear bosses without actually defeating them

As a diehard(man) Death Stranding fan, I gotta say the boss fights were easily the worst part of the game. I always turn the difficulty up to maximum when I’m doing a new playthrough because the game just feels more impactful and fun when there’s an actual sense of danger, but it goes straight down to easy mode whenever a boss comes out cause I am not dealing with that lol

While I’ll definitely be doing the bossfights the first time around in DS2 this feature will probably save my future playthroughs. It’s just always nice to see more options for letting players engage with the game in the ways they want to.

ka1ikasan,

Didn’t play the first one yet, but your insight is very interesting. Honestly, I cannot understand why any game wouldn’t offer the “storytelling” mode. It’s a solo game, just let people play how they want to. It’s like selling a toy car and saying “You can only drive it on a carpet with four wheels touching the ground at any time”. Nope, my (hypothetical) toy cars will be goddamn submarines if I want them to.

Ashen44,

I 100% agree. Games are about what’s fun, and that differs for everybody. Difficulty selection exists for a reason. My mom LOVES the playstation first party games (god of war, horizon, etc) but she always plays them on story mode. It’s not because she can’t handle any higher difficulties (she’s been gaming since before I was born), she simply doesn’t care about the challenge and just wants to experience the story.

Games are for us to enjoy, and short of cheating in a multiplayer game I don’t really think there’s a wrong eay to enjoy them. Opening up more avenues for more people to enjoy them is just a net positive in my opinion.

prole,

Death Standing is a single player game, but I’m not sure I would call it a “solo” game.

I don’t want to spoil it for you, but the “asynchronous multiplayer” stuff, and how the delivery process evolving over time through cooperation with real people you will never see or meet, parallels the story, was my favorite part of the game. And why I will be 100% playing the sequel.

ka1ikasan,

Oh right! It’s not a spoiler, it was one one the announced features, I just misused solo vs single-player.

prole,

I’ve been literally at the end of the game (right before the end segment, which is very long from what I understand) for like 2 years.

I really enjoyed the game, but wasn’t a huge fan of the times where they took you out of the main gameplay loop for some story shit that, let’s be honest, is barely coherent. Which is why I haven’t started the final segment.

I’ll have to do it before the sequel comes out I guess… How long should I expect that final segment to be? Movie-length?

Ashen44,

Definitely set some time aside to do the final segment. I’m not sure exactly where you are before the end segment, but assuming you’re right before edge knot city you’ve probably got about 4-5 hours left for the main story, if you take your time with it. There’s probably like an hour or two of cutscenes there though and you can absolutely rush the gameplay sections so if you really don’t care about the story you can probably shave that down to under 2 hours. It’s still a commitment though that’s for sure.

Zoot,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

"At the end i believe? Spoilers ahead"Where would I be when you lose the baby? The game just always freaked me out and knowing I’m going to face some kind of boss and not have any help from it made me put down the game many years ago and I’ve never been able to get back into it

Ashen44,

If you mean chapter 14, post Edge Knot CityWhen you’re taking Lou to the incinerator

You’re right at the end, there’s no more bosses. It’s just a bit of hiking and then a bunch of cutscenes. Then you’re in the epilogue and time rewinds so you can keep playing. Might be a bit of a weird place to start playing again though, as you just boot up the game after so many years just to watch a cutscene or two and then credits roll lol.

If you mean chapter 6, before reaching Edge Knot CityWhen Deadman takes the baby to recalibrate it

As you can probably guess by the chapter numbers, you are nowhere near the end of the game, sorry. There IS a bossfight, but you only have to do the first section alone, then you reunite and do the actual main fight together.

HappyFrog, do gaming w Death Stranding 2 will let you clear bosses without actually defeating them

Undertale ass game.

H_dev, do games w FromSoftware's focus hasn't shifted to multiplayer, Miyazaki says, despite Elden Ring: Nightreign and The Duskbloods

I really hope this gem isnts locked to just one console, I hope to play it and im not very excited about the switch 2 tbh…

NuXCOM_90Percent, do games w FromSoftware's focus hasn't shifted to multiplayer, Miyazaki says, despite Elden Ring: Nightreign and The Duskbloods

If anything, Duskbloods further confirms this is a B game. They took a mode of Elden Ring/Dark/Demon Souls that people have historically loved (jolly coop) and built a game around that. It is no different than building a game around dodging (Bloodborne), blocking/parrying and traversal (Sekiro), or even just one off arena fights (… MANY of the Armored Core expandalones).

They built it for Nightreign. They did a much scaled down version for Duskbloods as a way to get a sack of cash from Nintendo and to pressure Sony into letting them go back to an IP they like (Bloodborne).

It really IS fun to watch reactions from people who have never had any experience with From outside of as “The Dark Souls company”. They have ALWAYS done this kind of shit (hell, they even did it recently with the VR game nobody played). They have their A team work on their flagship IP whether that is Dark Souls or Armored Core or King’s Field. They have their B team(s) work on more experimental games. Sometimes it is something nobody ever remembers (was it Decirine?) and sometimes it is a cult favorite like Shadow Tower Abyss or Bloodborne. But the existence of Master of the Arena didn’t mean an AC2 wasn’t coming just like AC2 Another Age being weird barely connected missions on a pseudo-tactical map didn’t mean we weren’t getting AC3 and so forth.

simple,

Yes, this was also implied in the interview.

Miyazaki: At first it was being worked on by a small team as a title for Nintendo Switch. However just as the game started to take shape, we were approached by Nintendo with talk of Switch 2, which led us to revamp our development path with this new hardware in mind.

So it seems this is more of a side-game.

simple, do games w FromSoftware's focus hasn't shifted to multiplayer, Miyazaki says, despite Elden Ring: Nightreign and The Duskbloods

“We tried to extract the sort of romantic aspects we found interesting from concepts such as vampires and ‘blood’ and reinterpreted them as the Bloodsworn.”

I love how they keep getting close to saying “Bloodborne”. It has to be intentional.

Treczoks, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 hands-on reveals a proper generational upgrade, though its biggest new idea remains unproven

The key problem for the Switch 2 will be to compete with the Steam Deck. While a good Steam Deck is still a bit pricier, there are a myriad of titles, and the vast majority of them are much cheaper than the 70-90 price point targeted by Nintendo.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so excited to see benchmarks. Nintendo’s offering has a 1080p screen, but I’m curious to see if it actually has more horsepower than the deck and its 720p(ish) screen. My guess is it doesn’t in handheld mode.

Knowing Nintendo, we won’t know until June. Gonna hop over to digital foundry now to see what their impressions of the Wednesday direct was.

SkunkWorkz,

The general casual gamer crowd who plays Nintendo games doesn’t know what Steam Deck is.

Treczoks,

That might be true. For party games or Animal Crossing, the Switch is still the top choice. For the non-casual gamer, though, it is way to limited.

AllTheKarma,

Nintendo does not have to compete with the Steam Deck. Nintendo is in a league of their own when it comes to handheld gaming. They will surpass SD sales first month almost guaranteed.

Treczoks,

We will see. The big advantage of the SD is the ginormus library of games that already exist, the advantage of the S2 is that they have the Nintendo exclusive titles that have a good and solid fan base. With the S1, it was a no-brainer, the other consoles were limited in their game selection with a small hand of exclusives, and they were more expensive than the S1. The S2 is not far from the SD in terms of price. So this time, there actually is competition.

AllTheKarma,

SD has sold roughly a million units a year. Switch has sold 150m units in 8 years. Most people that buy one don’t care about a Steam Library. They care about Mario and Zelda. Pokemon. They care about ease of use. And yeah, the console is roughly the same price as the CHEAPEST SKU the SD has.

People will still buy the Steam Deck but it’s a completely different audience. One that is much smaller.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Then tell me why Nintendo got steamDB to remove cover art for switch games that they know were being emulated on steam deck

AllTheKarma,

Maybe because pirating?! Maybe copyright? I’m not a lawyer lol.

Prox, do games w Nintendo Switch 2 hands-on reveals a proper generational upgrade, though its biggest new idea remains unproven

So basically $450+ to play Nintendo IP games at a current-gen caliber level.

This pricing just sucks. Unless you’re a Mario Kart or DK fanboy, you’re probably better off with PS5 or XSX.

EarMaster,
@EarMaster@lemmy.world avatar

The Switch is a family console. Neither Xbox nor Playstation can compete in this sector (and maybe they don’t want to).

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