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Console_Modder, do games w Left 4 Dead creator teasing new four player co-op shooter
@Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is this going to be another Back 4 Blood situation?

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

No, it’s a new studio it seems.

Console_Modder,
@Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works avatar

Mike Booth is Turtle Rock’s founder

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Urg, why didn’t they mention that in the article?

Brkdncr,

Ready 4 Action

psx_crab,

Wait 4 Me

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

That game was such trash. A real mockery of what made L4D great.

NotSteve_,

I did enjoy it but I only maybe put 10 hours into it or so. I think it tried to be more than L4D with all the perks/cards or whatever but IMO people just want a simple replayable zombie survival game you can spontaneously jump in and out of with some friends

MBech,

I just generally need more games I can just quickly play. Why do I have to spend 30+ minutes just to play anything? I love Rocket League for the ability to quickly do a few games with the friends while we consider what to play.

twice_hatch,

I don’t see myself ever playing a video game with cards in it.

I hear “cards” or “deck-building” or “RPG mechanics” and I think oh my god no

MotoAsh,

Even as someone who generally enjoys games adapted with similar rules, I HATE videogames with cards or a board as their main logical center. It’s a VIDEO GAME, not a table top… FFS, at least hide it behind a minimally intrusive UI… That’s the fucking point in having a computer and interface involved: it doesn’t have to be reduced to a small set of human-parseable rules presented as text.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t enjoy it at all, but you’re right about what people wanted. L4D is so simple in its core concept and streamlined in its gameplay, but it still has a ton of depth. That’s what people want.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

It had the worst gunplay ive felt in a long time and the atmosphere of the game was destroyed by all the rainbow coloured glow effects and animations. That game was so full of really weird design choices.

Chozo,
@Chozo@fedia.io avatar

I really wanted it to be good, too. They tried to modernize the mechanics so much that they lost touch with what made L4D fun in the first place.

thermal_shock,

Yeah, with L4D I can just jump in. Within 60 seconds I’m in a match and playing. It’s an arcade shooter so comparing B4B to L4D was wrong.

Katana314,

I’m still not sure what people disliked most about it. I installed it again relatively recently and had a lot of fun.

It’s certainly following some different concepts than Left 4 Dead, but I really like some of the resource management and build planning you can do.

One_Honest_Dude,

Yeah, I had a lot of fun with it. I didn’t like the zombies vs humans mode and prefer the l4d way, but the campaigns were really fun.

rigatti,
@rigatti@lemmy.world avatar

The utter lack of polish and adding in too many mechanics while not tightening up the core gameplay. They also did not have a versus mode where you could control the zombies while the survivors made their way through the map, which was in my opinion one of the most fun versus modes in any game.

This video explains it pretty well. youtu.be/EdRLNUGmFC8

Katana314,

That video is completely out of date. I watched a sampling of the bugs they were showing, and none of them appear for me, even when playing with bots.

I remember it being shared on release, and its focus on things like physics within maps was a very specific thing - after Half-Life 2 many games gave up on physics especially in online, because it was more likely to lead to glitchy and unexpected behavior than emergent gameplay.

There’s so much in that video you’d have to pick out what matters to make your case, but to take melee reactions: B4B didn’t want the shove to be so powerful or delay the horde much, so it made sense zombies wouldn’t fall to the ground from one shove; the animation length would end up locking up the difficulty.

Death reactions is another gameplay choice. With automatic weapons, I wasted alot of ammo in L4D2 simply because it wasn’t instantly clear an enemy was dead - they were just playing out their lengthy Oscar death. Sometimes it’s a tradeoff between showcasing the enemy design, and showcasing the weapon’s effects when dozens of other enemies are bearing down.

silverchase,
@silverchase@sh.itjust.works avatar

From the guys who were in the room when Left 4 Dead was being made

sp3ctr4l,

Goddamn that is brutal but also very accurate, fuck.

threeonefour,
thermal_shock,

God I was so excited and I liked the idea of the random card difficulties, but fuck I couldn’t figure out how to get into it. Bought that shit cause I have like 5000 in L4D 1 and 2 and love them. But B4B dissappointed me so much.

Console_Modder,
@Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works avatar

I got B4B because some friends and I were really into L4D2. The cards were cool and different and I can appreciate that they tried something new. But they would regularly nerf anything that worked or was fun into the ground, which really sucked because it was a PvE game. And they changed the game so that you would start a campaign with your entire deck, and didn’t balance any of the early levels since they were designed to give a single card per level or segment or whatever they were called. I really wanted to like the game, but I just couldn’t

thermal_shock,

Exactly the same. I think them using Left 4 Dead as a selling point is what ruined it. It should have just been its own game should not have even mentioned Left 4 Dead

BurgerBaron,
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From the ex-janitorial staff of Turtle Rock, we bring you...

Mavytan, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

Ridiculous cookie wall, can’t use the website

traceur301,

same

Jolteon, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

This is definitely not going to be the last update.

Even the original claim didn’t say it would be the last update. It said it would be the last update until the release of haunted chocolatier.

Lemminary, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

Damn, following the footsteps of the great Terraria devs. o7

shadowedcross, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all
@shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m flabbergasted.

Revan343, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

for real this time

That’s what they said last time. Actually, I think this is what I said last time, too.

Can’t wait for the next update

yermaw, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

I wish he’d hurry up and get haunted chocolatier released. Im starting to feel like Im taking advantage of our relationship here, just getting update after update without paying him more.

hoshikarakitaridia,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

Worst case, buy a second copy for your cat, she deserves it :)

BigPotato,

Steam, Switch, GOG - I even buy it for my friends!

RebekahWSD,
@RebekahWSD@lemmy.world avatar

Phone as well!

Cethin,

Just buy it for random people on your Steam friends list if you want to do that. There are still plenty of people who don’t own it (like me) and it might finally give them the push to play it.

Prox,

LOL. We’re not talking about a “hurry up” kinda dude here. His development story is wild. It’s a miracle that he ever actually released Stardew.

bss03, (edited )

My solution for this feeling is to gift copies to others. I figure that worst case I support ConcernedApe and best case I help spark more Stardew joy.

(Right now, I’m between jobs, so I can’t buy for you, other readers.)

Patches,

Who doesn’t already own a copy?

He’s sold 41 Million Copies so far. It shares 19th place with the
Modern Warfare reboot

Vespair,

Tbh I can barely believe that Modern Warfare has sold anywhere near as many units as Stardew.

Stardew is masterpiece, Modern Warfare is a video game.

bss03, (edited )

~40M copies, ~8B ppl, so ownership rates are about 0.5%.

You might meet one of the lucky 10k that learn about Stardew Valley today, and you can enable them with a gift purchase.

Don_alForno,

He made it on his own. 40 Million copies even at 10$ and with steam taking 30% is still 280,000,000$. I honestly don’t think you need to worry for ConcernedApe’s financial situation.

ook, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all
@ook@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

He’s the Hayao Myazaki of gaming.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

He’s doing for games what Peter Molyneux did for beans in the Middle East.

umbrella, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

terraria vibes.

not complaining.

7112, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

I hope he adds a follower system or officially brings over Expanded. Those are the two mods that keep me on PC.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

What does expanded add ?

BradleyUffner,

It extends the town and surrounding areas, and adds quite a few new NPCs with associated story lines.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

I’ve never modded stardew but I’ll give it a go

Ty !

mnemonicmonkeys,

A bit of advice: you need to install SMAPI first (Stardew Modding API) first. Also, Nexus mods is where most people get their mods. The one in question is called “Stardew Valley Expanded”

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

Ty !

jimerson,
@jimerson@lemmy.world avatar

You saved him a lot of time and trouble! You’re a cool human.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Thank you

Vespair,

Man, you’ve got to dive into SDV mods.

Stardew is a great game, maybe an 8/10, but with mods it is an amazing game, 10/10.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

Is it hard to mod on deck ?

Vespair,

Dunno, I’m PC, sorry.

mnemonicmonkeys,

It’s the same process as on Windows

Vespair,

Probably, but since I don’t own and have never touched a Steam Deck, but the question was directed at me, I could only honestly answer with my unawareness.

Seems weird as fuck to get downvoted for not knowing about a thing I don’t have experience with, but hey.

mnemonicmonkeys,

Seems weird as fuck to get downvoted for not knowing about a thing

I’m pretty sure you got downvoted for suggesting Steam Deck’s and/or Linux don’t count as PC’s.

Also, it’s one downvote

pirateKaiser,

I’ve modded it on Linux, it’s not much different or more difficult. There’s an article how to set it up here

Kolanaki, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

Wonder what it will add.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

i saw one mod that had a digging in the trash skill i thought was pretty neat. i mostly play on console though so <shrugs>

Wildmimic, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

That game will be the second coming of Terraria

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Feel like it’s already there

ech,

What second coming? Terraria still has another update in the pipe.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

I am firmly convinced that we will continue to receive sporadic Terraria updates until Red literally dies

Wildmimic,

didn't say that the first appearance was over already ;-)

Poopfeast420, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

Looking forward to the next final update.

hypnicjerk, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

everyone look surprised

BurgerBaron,
@BurgerBaron@piefed.social avatar

Same look I use when a rock band "retires"

cybervseas, do games w Stardew Valley will be getting another update after all

This is his happy place when we needs to relax from working on Haunted Chocolatier.

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