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tburkhol, do games w I am LOVING Baldurs Gate 3

I feel like there’s two parts. On the one hand, Larian’s engine is fantastic and allows really creative and diverse approaches to their puzzles. There’s a number of fights that feel more like puzzles than fights, because they’re nearly impossible if you just go in spells blazing, but not nearly as threatening with a little preparation. They’ve honed that engine through DOS & DOS2, so it’s much more mature than you’d get if this were a pure derivative of BG1/2. The first time I lit Shadowheart up with Spirit Guardians and dashed her around a battlefield reaping the canon fodder…I actually giggled with glee.

Then there’s the storytelling. My journal is filling up with quests & side quests, but I don’t think any of them have been the “Kill 5 orcs,” “gather 10 blood moss,” or “deliver this McGuffin” variety. The NPCs you meet tend to reappear later and react differently depending on how their previous quest ended. I suppose, technically, that’s similar to going back to the same quest-giver, rising in their ‘ranks’ toward some prize, but it doesn’t feel the same. The NPCs, even the side-quest NPCs, feel like they’re woven into the overall narrative and it makes for a much more immersive experience.

I can’t imagine how much writing, animation, and voice acting had to be done to accommodate all the choices I won’t make. Even just the times some NPC voices my gender.

forvirreth,

I agree about the quests feeling fairly good, but my hod is the jour Al itself atrocious. No way to remove/hide quests from the map. Many quests sort of remain in this “not done” quest state because completing it will have undesirable outcomes and it feels weird that I have to keep it there still

SCB,

I respect this take but also can you translate that first sentence

Thehalfjew,

I think it’s, “but my god is the journal itself atrocious”

SCB,

It is super bad lol

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

They did detailed, stylistic, expressive animations for ANIMAL BODY LANGUAGE. and yes, you can talk to random rats and squirrels.

CitizenKong,

I agree, and the fact the NPCs have conversations and stories that play around you which are not automatically turning into quests for you to do (sometimes even chiding you for eavesdropping) makes the world feel much more alive and less player-centric.

RickyRigatoni, do gaming w If the same game is available and on sale on GOG and Steam, on which platform you rather buy it?
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

Steam, because I would want to support the company that respects linux users.

AphoticDev,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

GOG also offers Linux versions of any games that have such a version.

racketlauncher831,

You’re right, but I think OP meant almost all the games that are developed by Valve have a Linux version, meanwhile non of the games developed by CDPR has it.

hawkmoon, do gaming w What game mechanics do you love and hate?

Limited re-specing. Playing FFXVI right now and the free, on the fly, just open the menu and experiment respec is a tremendeous breath of fresh air.

prof,
@prof@infosec.pub avatar

Totally agree, I don’t want to have to do research before or during playing and have to consult a build guide for every level up, just so I don’t mess up my character.

Just let me fuck around, find out and do it better all over again in my own time.

Stillhart, do gaming w Which Dragon Age games are worth playing?

Origins is definitely the best and the closest to that classic Bioware feel you like.

DA2 was polarizing but I enjoyed it. Very different from the first mechanically. Worth playing tho, IMHO.

DA:I was… not fun for me. I feel like they tried to modernize the formula and added all the worst parts of modern (at the time) games, namely HUGE time sinks for no reason because it’s not a fucking MMORPG that makes money by the hour. /deep breath Sorry, I am still a little bitter at how that game turned out. Anyways, probably worth checking out, maybe you will feel differently. But it wasn’t for me.

sgriff,

Dragon age 2 was insanely fun to me, i definitely played it more than origins. (Im aware I’m not in the majority with that) I thought the combat was so fun and i loved doing different play throughs with different builds in that game

Skray,
@Skray@kbin.social avatar

2 definitely shows the issue of EA wanting to push the game out in 1.5 years. Many cut corners and a lack of assets with the repetitive maps.
I think it's the weakest entry in the Dragon Age series, and a lot of it's negative reception was because it failed to live up to expectations of DAO.

If Dragon Age 2 wasn't a Dragon Age game, it wouldn't have gotten the poor reviews it got. As a standalone game it's actually not bad.

I always recommend playing it, as it directly leads into the story of Inquisition and it has some great characters in it.

FlashMobOfOne, (edited )
!deleted7243 avatar

DA2 was polarizing but I enjoyed it.

The writing was pretty good. Just gets boring playing literally the same ten maps over, and over, and over, and over again.

CoffeeMan,

DA2 takes a different take for me when I realized that you’re playing through Varric’s retelling of the story. It kinda explains why people are falling out of the sky to join the battle and other inconsistencies.

beetelier,

This gets often overlooked, glad it got brought up. The entire game is an exercise in unreliable narration. Gives you a very different lens to experience the game through.

Dee_Imaginarium, do gaming w What type of game do you want to play that doesn't really exist?
@Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org avatar

I want Star Citizen… The Star Citizen that was promised in the Kickstarter… Still waiting.

termus, do gaming w are there small sized mmorpg's?
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

Ultima Online is a 25 year old MMO that still has the original servers running. The install is about 3GB and can run on any PC from the last 20 years. For the official servers, the player base is largest on Atlantic and you can sign up for a free Endless Journey account. PVP is only allowed in certain zones.

There are many many player run servers that fit a lot of play styles. The most populated being Outlands. That is where I mainly play as it is by far the most populated UO server, 2.5k-3k people on usually. Just beware, outside of the starting zone and towns, it is open PVP almost everywhere.

City of Heroes now has player run servers. The install is around 5GB. Homecoming is the most populated, with a lot of added content. Rebirth is less populated but tries to be the closest experience to the official servers.

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

Likewise, Everquest is still running, including some semi-official EQ-classic servers. Server population might be measured in hundreds – a far cry from the 500k peak in 2002.

missingno, do games w A game you "didn't know it was bad 'til people told you so"?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

I have a lot of childhood nostalgia for Donkey Kong 64. If you were a kid who could only get a new game every few months or so, this giant behemoth of a game will last a long time.

But it undeniably is a bloated clusterfuck, the internet is not wrong in hindsight.

Next thing that comes to mind for me is the GBA port of Tales of Phantasia. Symphonia was a huge part of my adolescent years, and as soon as I heard this was getting a GBA remake I was all over it. Loved it, and didn't hear until much later that GBA is apparently considered the worst version of the game. If PSP ever gets translated, I'd love to see what I missed out on...

B0NK3RS,
@B0NK3RS@lemmy.world avatar

DK64 for me too. I played the shit out of it for probably a solid 6 months to a year and loved it but it has no doubt aged badly.

nfreak,
@nfreak@lemmy.ml avatar

Honestly the collectathon genre as a whole doesn’t hold up much these days. A few modern games pull it off here and there, but going back and trying to play any of the classic Rare titles feels like a slog.

Loved all those games as a kid, and they did a ton to shape the industry, but they don’t really hold up.

Rai,

hbomberguy did a 50+ hour 101% nightmare stream for trans charity a while back and I watched the whole thing. I would not subject myself to playing that game but damn it was interesting to see.

Crankenstein,

Bro what people didn’t like DK64? I spent a large chunk of my childhood getting 100% in that game. Lanky Kong was my boy.

JackbyDev,

I wonder if a fan mod of DK64 where the bananas aren’t colored would fix many of the problems. I feel like that one small change might fix a lot of complaints. I haven’t played it though.

Denjin,

There’s a ROM hack that let’s you swap characters with a button press rather than trek through the level to find a swap barrel and then trek back again, and do that again and again for coins, bananas, etc.

Small change that has a big impact on the replayability.

www.romhacking.net/hacks/4961/

JackbyDev,

If I ever do a DK64 playthrough I’ll check this out.

missingno, do games w Why do people like Mario Kart?
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Are you really unable to understand why other people enjoy things? Is this a serious question?

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

I can understand why, but I wanted to hear their reasons for it.

I guess you’re just upset because someone was critical of something you like. It’s okay, I see it all the time.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

If you must know, I'm actually not a Mario Kart fan, played the older ones but haven't touched the series since DS. More of a Kirby Air Ride and F-Zero GX kinda guy. But I can still understand the appeal well enough to not post this kind of thinly veiled "I'm mad that other people like something I don't" thread.

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

Now you’re projecting.

I’m just going to ignore you.

missingno,
@missingno@fedia.io avatar

Projection is when you said "I guess you're just upset because someone was critical of something you like."

Elevator7009, (edited )

I think people are very much taking this less as an “I’m curious, why do people find this fun? I want to understand” post, and more of a condescending “I think it’s not fun because I have taste and am presuming people who think it is fun do not until proven otherwise, now prove me otherwise” post. Some people, including me until I saw these comments, were seeing your post body that tells us why you don’t like the game less as sharing your own perspective and wanting someone to show you a bright side, and more as trying to denigrate people who see it as fun. I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I think you can reread your post body and see how people might interpret a far less curious, far more judgmental tone from it.

To actually answer your question: I played Mario Kart Wii mostly as kid against the computer and other people, and a few times as an adult against other people. I like to think I was good at the game, that skill mattered and it wasn’t random and unfair. I won almost every time both against the computer, and against other humans. So I just didn’t perceive the game as “mostly random and unfair.” (Although now that I think of it, when I had the option I’d usually switch all items to Strategic against the computer, eliminating a lot of the catch-up items, so perhaps I did perceive it initially and just removed it from my experience to the point I don’t remember it? Although when I played against other humans it was usually on their console at their place with their settings, which probably didn’t have it set to Strategic.) The catch-up mechanics could sink me if I made a mistake, but if I drove well the whole course I almost always came out in front. Perhaps you’re thinking of later editions that I never played and have no opinion of, or the computer plays badly and the people I played against were bad at the game?

katze,

I can understand why, but I wanted to hear their reasons for it.

You make it sound like people make a pros and cons list before deciding whether to like something or not. We don’t choose what to like. People clearly have fun playing Mario Kart, that’s it.

mesitoispro,
@mesitoispro@ttrpg.network avatar

It’s okay, I see it all the time.

I’m going to block you now. Real sick of people who can’t take criticism of the things they like.

katze,

What? 🤣 Last time I played a Nintendo game was probably in 1995 on a Chinese clone of NES (or SNES, no idea).

Coelacanth, do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

We’ll see how much is recency bias and how well it will stand the test of time, but I really think Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 will be on this list going forward. It’s definitely one of the best games I’ve ever played, and I’ve played a lot of games. It’s not perfect, but it’s close enough in all the parts that actually matter.

Otherwise there’s your usual suspects:

  • Disco Elysium
  • Portal
  • Half-Life 2
  • Bioshock 1
  • Final Fantasy VI
  • Chrono Trigger
  • Zelda: Ocarina of Time
  • The Last of Us
  • Baldur’s Gate 2
puia,

I still have to play it, but Clair Obscus seems like this year Baldur’s Gate 3, which is rare. A game that came out of no where and is ready to win goty

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I know this is a hot take, but: BG3 is a good game. Clair Obscur is a work of art.

puia,

I must say you are really getting me hyped to play this game. Bgs3 was a masterpiece, and i also love games like Persona so i am really excited to try a French jrpg like Clair Obscur

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Props for DE being at the top of your list.

iAmTheTot, (edited ) do games w What games are just objective masterpieces?

None. There’s no such thing as an objective master piece. Games are art which is, by definition, subjective.

Edited to add, well this was way more controversial than I thought it would be.

sugar_in_your_tea,

“Masterpiece” comes from the art world, and there are absolutely works everyone seems to agree qualify, such as:

  • The Mona Lisa
  • David statue
  • David Copperfield by Charles Dickens

It’s usually the best work by an artist, or at least the one that got them their recognition, and it stands out among other works in the field.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s the one that got them their recognition, it’s little more than arbitrary; luck, place and time; things that don’t have to do with how good the work is. Some “masterpieces” weren’t considered such until they were exposed to people over and over again, like The Mona Lisa at the Louvre or It’s a Wonderful Life on TBS. I’d have a hard time calling a number of games masterpieces that I didn’t care for, because this isn’t objective.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

A masterpiece could just refer to a piece of art from a master. It could refer to the quality of an engineering project, or the skill involved in the work’s creation. Are these not objective qualities?

I don’t really think the Mona Lisa is a great image, personally (it’s a boring portrait), but I can still recognize that it was masterfully done.

Katana314,

This gets trickier with games, because an experienced game designer can, for instance, look at the UI design and graphics programming of a Ubisoft open world slopfest, and say those parts were masterfully done (even if the overall game isn’t so fun). And, even the best of video games have bits of them that weren’t as good.

Krauerking,

Right… So what game gets the most of those bits the most right?

That’s how you start to separate out the best. Not that complex.

LandedGentry, (edited )

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  • seathru,
    @seathru@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    I think the word you are looking for is pedant.

    Better vocabulary will help get your point across better. Without also sounding like an edgy atheist teen.

    Krudler,

    It’s low-grade trolling, chill bro. They’re not serious.

    ms_lane,

    Games are not Art, they are Games.

    Videogames can also be art, but they are also games and ‘games’ (note: not ‘videogames’) are not art.

    Screen_Shatter, do games w Wait, that game is still playable online?

    Titanfall 2 servers were brought back online after being down for awhile.

    I still play Starcraft 2 occasionally.

    earned_myself_a_gin,

    Is there any community or a different set of servers to point to? Titanfall 2 was my favorite game before the DDoSes, and when I’ve periodically checked you can try matchmaking but there’s nobody left to play with anymore. Is there a Discord or another set of servers or something?

    Screen_Shatter,

    I’m actually not sure, its my kid who plays. He was very excited and playing on xbox. I thought it was cool and unexpected but I guess maybe it died back down again.

    Bogusmcfakester,

    On pc there’s a thing called the Northstar client that was pretty active during the ddos times

    Varying9125,

    I just found out about north star and looked into buying TF2, its $30 on steam! wtf I remember seeing it for like $3 before

    pedro,

    You can get EA keys dirt cheap on the grey market. Alternatively just wait for a sale and it will be a few quid on steam

    IronKrill,
    @IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

    It’s been on steep discount often, as recently as May 1st. Just gotta wait for the sale, it’ll go on again. isthereanydeal.com/game/…/history/

    sugar_in_your_tea, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

    Here are my reasons:

    • no Linux support - Heroic works, why doesn’t Epic do what GOG do and revenue share w/ Heroic?
    • exclusivity deals, which reduces options outside of EGS
    • Epic’s anticheat works on Linux, but their own games that use it don’t, that’s a pretty big slap in the face

    I certainly want more competition to Steam, but that competition needs to do something other than exist for me to use it. GOG is that, and if they properly supported Linux, they’d get most of my gaming money. But they don’t, so they only get some of it.

    Yeah, this probably reads like a Linux fanboy post or something, but I’ve been using Linux longer than Steam supported it with its client, and I’ll still be here if Steam leaves. It’s my platform of choice, and a vendor needs to meet me here if they want my business. Valve did, so they get my money. I honestly don’t need much, I just need games to work properly on my system.

    Krudler, do games w I'm a console gamer so, Why the hate on the Epic Games Store?

    It’s very simple, valve is a gamer company. Epic is a money company. Every single thing each respective company does shows that. I’m not a bitch, I’m never going to let those Epic cunts have a penny of my money. Fucking with the games industry, fucking with gamers, locking exclusives, it’s all bullshit & they can suck my cock

    MajesticElevator, (edited )

    Meanwhile Valve pushing unrelated unregulated gambling to everyone, including children, through their case unboxing system

    kadup,
    @kadup@lemmy.world avatar

    Counter Strike is a M rated game

    MajesticElevator,

    Oh so they have no responsibility at all then. Might as well stop checking IDs when people enter casinos or buy alcohol because they’re not supposed to if they’re underaged.

    They make a deliberately addictive mechanic that they know ruin peoples’ life, and they also know they have a big young audience, but you think that’s fine? Shame of you, really.

    It’s also in TF2 btw

    And whatever you say, it’s still exploiting adults. In many countries, like France, casinos are legally obliged to detect addicted people, prevent minors from playing, and let people opt out legally, and never allow them to gamble afterwards. Valve blatantly doesn’t respect this and takes efforts to bypass the law. They got banned in Belgium and France, and used a legal loophole to avoid being banned in France.

    You’re acting like a Valve fanboy. Be objective. Apart from that, Valve is an overall good company for the video games industry, but they act like a piece of shit in other places.

    Goretantath,

    Parents should do their damn job and prevent their kids from playing what they arent supposed to, or teach them right from wrong.

    MajesticElevator,

    Teens aren’t kids. Gambling is addictive to everyone.

    Soggy,

    Teens are kids, they’ve just got half a brain and adult hormones mixed in. They still need guidance and supervision.

    kadup,
    @kadup@lemmy.world avatar

    I mean… Do you support the recent proposal to ban online porn? How about alcohol?

    Valve provides a game, an appropriate age rating, a description of the monetization scheme, and a way for users to freely trade items.

    If minors transform that into a gambling addiction, it’s certainly a big problem, but I don’t see how that translates into “Steam bad, Epic Games good”

    MajesticElevator,

    Do you support the recent proposal to ban online porn?

    No, but that’s another subject. Not easy to regulate and is not as life threatening as many other things. We all consumed some when minors and it never was a huge deal for most people. Gambling is much worse imo, as it impacts your finance. Gambling is already banned/regulated and Valve is avoiding the current laws.

    How about alcohol?

    It’s already pretty well restricted for minors. The world would be better without it, but as nicotine, can’t go back now that people are used to it.

    but I don’t see how that translates into “Steam bad, Epic Games good”

    Never said that.

    I talked about this because the original comment said Valve wasn’t here for money. Why do they push gambling then?

    Krudler,

    Whataboutism makes you look like an idiot

    WhatsTheHoldup,

    Not OP but your very first sentence was

    It’s very simple, valve is a gamer company.

    It’s not “whataboutism” to directly respond to your point and try to argue they aren’t a gamer company.

    I do agree with you overall though that Epic can suck it.

    MajesticElevator,

    You’re saying Valve acts for gamers, not for profits. I’m proving you wrong. You’re just entitled and love Valve.

    MajesticElevator,

    Wrote unrelated instead of unregulated, which changed the meaning of my sentence. Fixed it.

    simple, do games w I just realized the only way to get new gamers to care about Jak is to release a "remastered" version, which sucks.

    I think a modern port for other systems would do very well, Sony just isn’t interested in reviving the series which does suck. They did HD versions for PS3 which regained some interest in the franchise, but then they just ported the PS2 versions for PS4/PS5…

    If we can have those HD versions on Steam, it’d be a huge deal. Right now most people can’t play the game without jumping through hoops. As an aside, you can play the decompiled versions on PC using OpenGOAL.

    octobob,

    I played the HD version on a PS3 emulator and honestly didn’t notice that much of a difference from the PS2 game with upscaled resolution.

    I think the point of this post, which I agree with, is that the PS2 version that is available via emulators or on the PS store currently is good enough as it is and the series doesn’t need revived at all.

    Sort of in the same vein is that I tried playing MGS1 twin snakes which is the gamecube remake of the PS1 game. Maybe it’s nostalgia of the original being my favorite game of all time, but it just didn’t hit the same for me as the original. It’s just about the closest thing to what a modern “remake” would look like, except I guess with the graphics of how the new remastered snake eater game looks instead of the GC graphics.

    It sucks that people might skip timeless classics like these because they’re not remastered with updated graphics.

    ozymandias117,

    Wow. This opengoal project is so cool!

    You made me dig through old boxes to find my Jak games. I know what I’m doing this weekend :)

    Zahille7,

    OpenGOAL runs flawlessly ime. For TPL and Jak 2, there are some extra qol settings and some added secrets to mess around with (in Jak 2, you can unlock cheats for invulnerable vehicles throughout the city, real time of day, turbo jetboard, etc). They’re still working on Jak 3, but you could always get PCSX2 for that one. PCSX2 is a fantastic emulator for PS2 games that also works pretty much flawlessly. It’s how I replayed the old Sly games and a bunch of others.

    HollowNaught, do games w What game is this? (On the Switch that they're holding)
    @HollowNaught@lemmy.world avatar

    a deep dive

    20 minutes long

    Not very deep then huh

    Nikls94,

    I once watched a YouTuber reacting to his own video. The original video was 20 minutes long, the reaction 110 minutes

    Edit: here

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5hJ9jhVlXY&pp=ygUjSm9zaCBz…

    simop_jo,

    I have run out of content Reacting to I have run out of content

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