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rustyfish, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

Iron Lung. Everyone is gone. Every star, every planet and every moon. The only people left are those who were on spaceships and stations. With one exception: A moon is found, glowing in the light of a star that doesn’t exist and filled with an ocean of blood. Desperate for answers, the new makeshift government sends prisoners in submarines deep into this ocean with a simple task: make it to a hand full of coordinates, take the pictures and make it out alive. Did I mention it’s an ocean of human blood?

This game fucked me up that one night I played it alone. And no, it won’t take you longer. The dev literally says so in the description. About an hour. But it’s cheap and takes you on a crazy ride. By David Szymanski, the mad genius behind Dusk.

Midnitte, do gaming w Just finished Alan Wake 2

Perhaps someday it’ll come to Steam so I can enjoy it. :/

blackris,
@blackris@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Oh man, wanted to play AW2 someday. I didn’t know it was only on Epic. Fuck those guys.

Midnitte,

Yea it’s just dumb and a waste of effort imo (Epic should focus on actually providing a functional store first, not second)

Supposedly Control 2 at they very least should be on Steam…

chloyster,

Alan Wake 2 was published by and likely would not exist without Epic. It is unlikely it will come to steam

TachyonTele,

Is Control on steam? I have the GoG version. But that game is “multiplatform” then Alan Wake very well could be too

chloyster,

Control is on steam because it was published by 505 games.

Don’t get me wrong I’m anti epic buying exclusivity for games. But like if they fully funded the development and published it…

TachyonTele,

Ah gotcha. Thanks. I was assuming it was the same publisher .

And I agree with you. It’s been like that for forty years. I never understand why people get so upset over it recently.

Midnitte,

Epic would make more money selling it on Steam :/

chloyster,

Oh for sure I definitely agree there haha. As far as software is concerned I don’t like the epic store. Steam is much better on that front. But I also don’t have any true moral issue with the epic store. Especially for playing a game they funded. Epic also funded and published the Alan Wake remaster. They effectively were able to bring back a long dormant series, and for that I am happy since Alan Wake 2 ended up being one of my all time favorite games.

I wish they didn’t have to keep it in their store, since I like steam more, but at the end of the day I’m not too bothered by it

sjmulder, do games w What are some game series you would like to see revived? And if possible, which entry should the new game follow from?

Okami! Please, more!

cheers_queers, do gaming w I don't hate Body Type replacing Gender, I hate laziness

Starfield did this the right way, just as you are suggesting. it’s the only game I’ve seen so far that does it, but your character body exists on a wheel of buff, slender, thicker, etc. you can adjust every little part of this to get a truly unique character. i believe there were also at least 4 voice options. the rest of the game was meh, but maybe other games will start doing it that way. i think inclusion is still a very new concept in gaming, everyone is trying new things, and i appreciate the effort. it’ll get there.

HawlSera, (edited )

I definitely have to say, Body Type A/Body Type B definitely feels like a groan-worthy growing pain that will be ironed out sooner or later. It’s just disappointing that we have to resort to such awkward terms that mislead players about how much variety across the gender spectrum is actually being offered. It almost feels like a vegan menu that still heavily uses animal byprdouct.

This almost makes me want to buy Starfield to support a proper way to revamp gender selection, but it’s going to need the same amount of work that FO76 getting it from how it was at launch to the awesome experience it is now for me to dip my toes in that…

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

shattered space might be a perfect time to try it. that dlc is just 1 planet so it’ll most likely be made how previous bethesda games were

Trainguyrom,

The Sims 4 actually added a similar approach to character creation about 2 years ago, but very different kind of game with a very different market

Off the top of my head it has options for male presenting body type, female presenting body type, sliders for fat and muscle (and you can generally reshape most of the body) and the available clothing and hairstyles got sorted into masculine and feminine with I believe more traditionally gender neutral stuff getting placed into both, then for biological purposes there’s “can pee standing up/cannot pee standing up” and “can impregnate/can be impregnated” It defaults to Male/Female defaults but makes it easy to customize, and a good mix of default townies (NPCs) are all over the spectrum.

They also recently added more complex relationship and romance preferences, so sims can be sexually bi but romantically straight for example, but also expanded to allow various levels of openness to relationships as well as poly relationships

snooggums, do gaming w I don't hate Body Type replacing Gender, I hate laziness
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Honestly only having two body types is the lazy part, no matter what the two types are. The best solution would be a variety of heights, weights, shoulder, waist, and hip sliders with boobs and butts and whatever else as add ons to the body shape. That should cover everyone as long as there is plenty of range on each option.

Unless everyone is in armor, in which case two or three gender neuteal body types are fine because boobs and butts won’t be noticeable through armor anyway. Height is pretty much all that is different if everyone in the armor is in decent shape and the armor is made to fit a range of people.

missingno, do gaming w best GBA games? I need recommendations
@missingno@fedia.io avatar
  • Boktai series: Hideo Kojima's most unusual work, and I mean that in the best way. These games were so near and dear to my childhood, especially 2. Really though you want the Solar Sensor hardware for the full experience, but I love these games too much not to plug them anyway. Emulating them is worth it over not playing them at all. And for the third game, you'd have to pick between original hardware or the translation patch anyway.
  • Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow: It's Castlevania. It's good. Also check out Circle of the Moon and Harmony of Dissonance, but AoS was by far the best of the GBA entries.
  • Golden Sun 1/2: These games were way ahead of their time for how they designed a combat system that encourages you to use all of your tools and not just click basic Attack as if you gotta hoard your MP for a rainy day. Fantastic puzzles too.
  • Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga: If you've played any of the other Mario RPGs, this one's great too. Has a 3DS remake but I haven't played that version so I can't tell you how it compares.
  • Metroid: Zero Mission: The original Metroid has aged rather poorly if you ask me, but this remake does a perfect job modernizing it into one of the best games in the series. Fusion is good too, but some fans have opinions on that one.
  • Mother 3: Surely you have already heard of this game and do not need me to tell you to go play it. Have you not played it by now? Why not? Well, okay, if you haven't played Earthbound first, go do so, then play this.
  • Rhythm Tengoku: A wonderful game about pressing the A button. Sometimes you press the d-pad too. Translation patch.
  • Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 1/2: If you've ever played the classic 2D Tales games, these are excellent spiritual successors to those. There's a third game that's JP-only, translation patch is being worked on but it's been stuck in development hell for years...
  • The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap: Zelda.
sleepybisexual,

Thanks for the list

Ambiguity7300,

Holy shit boktai was kojima?! Only reason i about this series was the crossover chips and and endgame quest in MMBN4 and on. Super cool and unique concept with the solar panel stuff.

mox, do games w Looking for Overwatch alternatives

Maybe Deadlock?

EarWorm,

Yeah, it does look promising but knowing Valve time it’ll release sometime in the 2030s.

Cyv_,

Send me your steam friend code, as far as I can tell I can invite any steam friend, with no limits on numbers. Dunno how long the playtest is running, but they usually do half the day live, and half with matchmaking shut down for patching stuff.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

!deadlock has a thread for inviting and getting invited in case the guy who already commented doesn’t get you in.

huginn,

Get in the closed alpha/beta and play. It’s a ton of fun.

Cadeillac, do games w Is mafia 3 really that bad?
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

Can somebody please tell me why this is the third Mafia thread I’ve seen? Are they on sale or something?

Edit: nevermind, it is all the same person. Would I be a dick for suggesting they contain it to one Mafia thread?

FeelzGoodMan420,

No. OP is a clown. Look at his replies in one of the RDR2 threads.

Cadeillac,
@Cadeillac@lemmy.world avatar

The main reply is me lol

VonReposti, do games w #StopKillingGames Update: Sweden and Poland pass threshold as initiative reaches 25%

Denmark is at 87%, nice. Let’s make it reach 100%!

BluesF, do games w Deadlock (Valve's Unannounced Title) Passes 12k Peak Players in Closed Alpha

Worst kept secrets, aka, clever marketing.

TIN, do games w Good game soundtracks?

Another vote for the Bastion soundtrack by Darren Korb.

AliasVortex,

Seconding Bastion! That soundtrack got me though so many grad school papers/ projects. I keep telling myself I’ll get around to actually playing that game, but I can’t shake the feeling that the second I hear “Build that wall” I’ma have some ptsd flashbacks.

all-knight-party, do gaming w Prey 2006 or Prey or Prey 2017; which do you prefer?
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

2006 was a neat game with some particularly cool bits, but 2017 is one of my favorite games of all time and pound for pound is a superior game due to 2017 being a spiritual successor to System Shock 2.

Very different games though, I don't honestly think they should be compared directly, it was already a weird choice for Prey 2017 to receive the franchise name.

Deconceptualist,

I’ll second this entirely.

Prey 2006 is a slightly gory boomer shooter with interesting topsy-turvy levels, gravity tricks, a few cool enemies and guns and powers, and a campy alien abduction / invasion story. It might be a little underrated in its genre. Definitely fun.

But Prey 2017 was more of a clever stealth action / psych horror title in the vein of Deus Ex and of course System Shock. Brilliant interconnected level design, a deep story, a good (though not super original) roster of guns and superpowers, some tricky puzzles, and a few interesting and enemies. It gets a good amount of love but I still think it deserves wider recognition as an excellent game.

It’s frankly stupid that they have the same name.

Sterile_Technique, do games w Steam Summer Sale - Top Deals
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Orcs Must Die! $9.99 $2.99 (70% off)

Hybrid tower defense and 3rd person shooter/slasher. This game is… fucking stupid! Like by design - your character is a moron, and says some of the dumbest shit you’ll hear come out of a protagonist’s mouth. So with this game, you get a high dose of face-palmy humor paired with orc arms/heads/bones/etc flying across your screen after they get blended up by all your traps. Gameplay is surprisingly solid; you’ll get some time to think and plan where to place traps and obstacles; then you’ll get hit with a wave of orcs and other fantasy critters and try to manually pick off any that make it through the traps. There are a couple more games in this series - imo #1 is the best, but if you like this one, keep the others on your radar too.

misk, do games w The N64
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

Every piece of hardware in a given budget is ultimately a product of compromise. 3D capabilities of N64 are way beyond what PS can offer - texture filtering and Z buffer just put Playstation to shame. No CD is equally embarrassing to N64. The controller… well, it was a weird time.

glimse, (edited )

I played a lot of THSP2 on my PS2 PS1 and was horrified by the N64 version’s audio quality when I played it at a friend’s house

Num10ck,

the ps2 came 4 years after the N64, a crucial time window of consumer audio chip evolution. but even more importantly, the N64 didnt even have a sound chip, relied on the CPU for it while competing for resources.

glimse,

Sorry I meant PS1! It played CD quality audio as well

Rhaedas, do games w UK petition of "Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state" just got thrown back to the Government

I'm curious on how signers of this petition think companies could afford to do this. Often times shutting a game down is because the interest of players has waned. Making a law to require them to keep that server and software running...forever? Is the end goal to kill any online game development?

It would make sense to require a company to release the code for players to host their own servers, which has been done by many games in the past. Not to continue to run it themselves.

ThePantser,
@ThePantser@lemmy.world avatar

The company will have the make that decision then, if it means opening the server for use or patching the game for local p2p play then so be it. Otherwise they should be forced to state the game is a rental not purchased if it requires a server that may shut down.

Jajcus,

Otherwise they should be forced to state the game is a rental not purchased if it requires a server that may shut down.

But that is what they already do. Currently this might be hidden in the EULA, that no one reads, but even making this plainly visible during purchase wouldn't change much. I is not like the players have much choice when they want to play that specific game.

Kowowow,

I think part of the next phase is to force the companies to list a minimum supported life span, I think the average length a game is supported for now days is around two years, so if the game isn’t kept alive the minimum listed time you get a refund but if the life span of the game is listed too short then people will be less likely to spend money on it

moody,

That’s sort of what they do, except they still call it a purchase. I’ve never seen the word ‘rental’ on any game store. They shouldn’t be allowed to even call it a purchase if it isn’t one.

g0nz0li0,

This is why we got Stadia. Imagine Netflix where you pay a monthly fee and still have to buy all the movies and shows at full price. That was Stadia’s model.

Thos erodes the concept of ownership so that it is substituted for rental, without stating that clearly. Stadia failed but in doing so it probably helped Microsoft figure out how to eventually get away with doing the exact same thing.

Games should clearly say if you’re basically renting them, not have it buried in the EULA. Let publishers full price and let consumers decide if they are prepared to live with it.

zout,

Who says the companies need to keep the servers running? The petition is "to keep games in a working state".

Rhaedas,

Looking at the petition itself it wasn't very specific on the terms, which is why I questioned the very broadness of the request . "Keep" implies maintaining how it is currently, not a transition to open source and player run.

shasta,

Being vague about the requirement leaves more options for game companies to find various solutions to comply. It’s quite accommodating.

g0nz0li0,

Totally agree. You always leave yourself room to negotiate down.

Imagine not supporting this because you think it’s unfair to the industry, given the very specific examples that have been given.

Guntrigger,

It’s true it does cost to keep things running. But like you say there are ways around this to push server costs onto players, or simply allow offline play with online features disabled.

I think if there were legislation in place then design decisions would adapt. If it were costly to just shut a game down abruptly, there would be player hosted options in place from the start and ideally less spurious “always online” requirements woven into the fabric of every game.

Donut,

It would make sense to require a company to release the code for players to host their own servers, which has been done by many games in the past. Not to continue to run it themselves.

That’s basically what people are asking for. Instead of not being playable anymore, give consumers the means to keep it going for themselves.

This could mean always-online having to be gutted from the game after it’s support ends so you can play it offline. Or server hosting files to host your own private or public server.

The goal is to have games not be impossible to play after X amount of time. How companies reach that goal is up to them.

Archelon,

Ross and the team have been very specific about not wanting to force companies to pay for server infrastructure forever.

They’ve said quite a few times that what they want is for game companies to at least patch their games so they can keep running without the online connection or provide players the tools to host their own servers so that the company can end support without the game becoming a brick.

Hopefully by requiring games to be playable after support ends and the servers shut down it will also change the way games are made so that they no longer require the constant connection.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I would also wonder how this would work with MMOs where the server side, both in processing power and in bandwidth, is not insignificant. I mean I suppose “are required to publish the code, no requirement that it’s feasible for others to run” but…yeah.

g0nz0li0,

He talks about that. I think the gist is that a lot of games that are online services could run locally, the publisher just chooses not to. That’s why Ross chose the Crew 2 as his hill to die on: there’s evidence that an offline does/did exist and just wasn’t enabled. That’s a practice that needs to be challenged.

The argument goes that a game that relies on server side technology to run in any form shouldn’t be sold as a product that you can own. This needs to be reflected in the price and licensing model. That seems fair.

The big question is why TF we’re at a point where a company should be allowed to sell you a product and say you own it then remove your right to use the product arbitrarily. I bet there’s IP in the server side code, but having a system where a corporation’s IP and ability to make money from the IP is more important that the concept of ownership is deeply fucked up.

Technology Tangents did a video where a game he bought on CD and tried to play on period-correct hardware won’t run because there was DRM that called a server to check the date and to make sure it wasn’t leaked early. Decades after the release, the server is gone and the game can’t run, ironically, because it’s so far outside of its release date. That’s the kind of bullshit that absolutely shouldn’t be tolerated.

Maddier1993,

You must not have been born during LAN party era where everybody’s PC was physicaly connected to each other.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m aware of good old fashioned multiplayer where an average Pentium 2 rig has enough grunt to host a multiplayer session and be one of the client machines, obviously games of that scale should be able to be run by enthusiasts. I’m talking about, what if something like WoW shuts down?

hangonasecond,

Wow private servers aren’t uncommon, although I do think they violate the TOS as it stands. I imagine people would continue to use those in the event blizzard shuts the official servers down.

breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

If they no longer want to host and run servers, they should release the tools to allow the community to take over

lambalicious,

It would make sense to require a company to release the code for players to host their own servers, which has been done by many games in the past. Not to continue to run it themselves.

That counts as “working state”, assuming the published code is reasonable to operate (it must be FOSS, or at least permit open modification and distribution; and it must run in a server with specs that’s reasonable to have at the time of game publication)

Z3k3,

I can still play ut from like 20 odd yrs ago the choice yo take away hosting your own games was their choice.

LinyosT,

Probably the way they used to do things, provide the server hosting tools to the community.

Think like TF2 and CS:S.

There’s plenty (But not all) MP games that can do that.

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