bin.pol.social

sharkfucker420, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Personally I just hop in an wing it. In the case of baldurs gate I already understood most classes and races because of DND but in general when it comes to games like that yeah I just wing it and hope for the best

MaggiWuerze,

This is it basically. Especially for the first time you don’t really need to minmax anything and still have a good time.

bernieecclestoned, do piracy w Megathread removed Edytjedhgmdhm
@bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works avatar

No one could spell it

hogart,
@hogart@feddit.nu avatar

Big brain move if I ever saw one!

VraethrDalkr, (edited )

Here’s how it’s pronounced: /ɛdɪtʃɛdʒm̩dʰm̩/

bingbong,

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn.

VraethrDalkr,

Oui

JaymesRS,
@JaymesRS@midwest.social avatar

Seems like a simple acronym to me:

Everyone Do Your Thing, Just Episode Downloads (for) Home & Great Movie Downloads. Happy Media.

m0darn,

Everyone Do Your Thing, Just Eat Doritos, Hershey’s, Green Mountain Dew & Happy Meals.

kamiheku, (edited ) do piracy w What's the best way to rip music off Spotify so that I can store it on my HDD?

DownOnSpot is the only one correct answer.

Edit: Zotify and Onthespot (which has a GUI) look good, as they too download straight from the source.

AphoticDev,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Direct links aren’t allowed, you need to edit that. We can talk about piracy, but no linking.

NightAuthor,

Even if it’s a link to a tool, not a specific piece of content?

fox,

I think you misunderstood the rule about not linking to pirated content.

AphoticDev,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Maybe. I suppose we could always report the comments linking directly, and let the admin decide, couldn’t we?

kamiheku,

Go ahead. The rule is about copyrighted content, not open source tools.

fox,

No, you have misunderstood what the rule is about.

You’re not allowed to link to pirated content, such as a download link to the Barbie movie.

But you’re free to link to places that discuss the Barbie movie, places that discuss where to watch the Barbie movie, and places that teaches you how you can rip the Barbie movie yourself.

The only things you cannot link to, are direct links to pirated content

SaltySalamander,
@SaltySalamander@kbin.social avatar

Look at that, doubling down.

roon,
@roon@lemmy.ml avatar

But it’s just a link to GitHub right

RandomLegend,
@RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Never heard of it… Always used on the spot

Is it better?

kamiheku,

Huh, wasn’t aware of that one! Looks like it works in a similar way, so should be good. Has a graphical user interface, too, so more approachable. Thanks!

github.com/casualsnek/onthespot

JRaccoon, do games w Do you wish that you could recycle games?
@JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’ve learned that over in the EU, people can actually re-sell their games on Steam.

Unless I’ve totally missed something, this is (sadly) not true.

GhiLA, do games w What games have you sunk the most time into?
@GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

They send BABIES to fight me!

1000030806

SOLDIER IS-MEEEEEEEEDIC

Rai,

TF2 is one of my highest as well, but only half as many hours as you! Lots of hats… cashed out all my unusuals for an Index.

Highest is probably Diablo II+D2R, played every day in my teens, from when I got home to when I slept. Then I started playing while botting. Has to be 3k+ hours. Never been so addicted to a video game.

Akasazh,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

I’ve got close to 5000 hrs in tf2. By far my most played game ever

Zetta, (edited )

https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/38ad373a-e208-4fdf-959e-41cbc04eb96f.png

Same, my most played game ever. I find it funny, at least to me, a game from 2007 thats barely supported by the dev is significantly better than the other modern derivatives of tf2 like overwatch and marvel bandwaggon money maker.

AbsoluteChicagoDog,

Overwatch was good when it released then they actively made it trash

Zetta,

I gave it a shot within the first year it came out, only ever played ~10 hours and just didn’t find it that fun I suppose.

GhiLA,
@GhiLA@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ll tell you what it is. Freedom.

We can make servers, host servers, have our own communities and set our own rules. Hell, I haven’t played a Valve server in five years.

Overwatch isn’t a matter of better or worse. It fails to do, at base value, what I value TF2 for, freedom.

Add however many neat little gameplay mechanics you want, if I can’t play the game the way I want to, I’m not going to get into it or care.

shrug

Klnsfw, do games w PEGI gives Balatro an 18+ rating for gambling imagery

Balatro is a hard drug worse than heroin. We need to protect our kids from the bottomless pit of roguelite games

Wogi,

Thank God it’s ten dollars.

I almost downloaded it.

meliaesc,

Id you’ve ever spent money on a movie theatre ticket, you value your time at $7-$20 dollars an hour. This… is thousands of hours of entertainment.

sukhmel,

So, you’re suggesting we make games per hour subscription? A good idea /s

Wogi,

I’m not saying it’s not worth ten dollars.

I just don’t feel like spending ten dollars.

MonkeyBrawler, do gaming w Inspired by another post

I’ve seen more posts complaining about complainers, than I’ve seen complainers.

BuboScandiacus,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

I haven’t seen a single complaint about Ciri being the protagonist of the next witcher game andI believe it’s because she isn’t a “let’s put a woman here for the quotas” type of character.

MonkeyBrawler,

Yeah, I honestly haven’t seen an actual complaint.

Agrivar,

Is it here, or on the internet as a whole? I have already seen a TON of vitriol in the trailer’s comments on YouTube. They’re loudly skreeeing woke, and DEI, and even the less insane ones are “so disappointed in CDPR.”

EDIT - I spoke too soon, they’re even here in this very post.

boonhet,

so disappointed in CDPR

Did they play the third game? Do they remember how important Ciri was, how special her powers?

I’m wagering most of them haven’t.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

They just start frothing at the sight of a powerful woman

surewhynotlem,

This is Lemmy. You’re looking for reddit.

SuperSaiyanSwag,

Currently I split my time a bit on reddit and Lemmy, but at this point I don’t even bother with their gaming communities. Lemmy is miles better in that regard imo as far as discussions go.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

We’re a pretty happy bubble here, which is why I’m here

MonkeyBrawler,

Nothing happy about creating your own boogy man lol.

gift_of_gab,
@gift_of_gab@lemmy.world avatar

Really? Can you share them? I saw the post on lemmy complaining about wanting male/female options, but there’s also this article with gems such as below.

image

Even in the comments of that article though, is “DEI detected = Purchase rejected”.

So the comments are out there, probably on reddit too, but they are there.

Maggoty,

That’s super reaching for straws. It’s a skin in a third party Battle Royale game. He couldn’t even bring himself to compare her to Ciri in Witcher 3.

anakin78z, do games w Anyone else bounce around from game to game with no clue what to play?
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

This actually sounds like depression. Being unable to find joy, and then unsuccessfully searching for it in places where you used to find it. I would consider talking to a professional if you can.

Or try Dragon Age Veilguard.

dubyakay,

If we are going down this path, I’d actually recommend touching grass first (proverbially), before a sinking time and money into a professional. It’s an easy, non-committal step, that may do wonders.

Jrockwar,

Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but ADHD also fits the bill. I’m very much a happy person at the moment, I wouldn’t change anything in my life, yet I subscribe to what OP says. Games are too long, too boring to grab my attention long enough.

I managed recently to complete GTA V because I found the story hilarious, and I only managed that by skipping all side missions. That’s the only long / AAA game I’ve managed to finish in recent years.

What helps me is understanding that if I get 5h of enjoyment out of a game rather than getting to the intended 50h playtime, that’s also valid. 5h of fun also counts as fun and this is a game, not work, so there’s no pressure to finish it.

SandLight, do games w Is a Quest 3 really worth it?

No. It’s a meta product so it should be avoided.

BigMikeInAustin, (edited )

I’m really trying to avoid all Meta products, but Quest 3 seems to have the best reviews and there are some good refurbished and used deals.

I’m not sure what to pick instead, while being cheap and having a PC about 7 years old.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

There’s the Pico 4 if you can get one in your country. Instead of Meta, it’s ByteDance.

ampersandrew, do games w Gacha games are out of control. Gambling shouldn't be so widespread
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Without being a gacha game, World of WarCraft is guilty of a lot of the same stuff. You probably know people who flunked out of college due to the addiction, or have heard of parents who neglected their child over that game. It preys on a lot of the same impulses that Diablo and Diablo II seemed to have found by accident, before they were monetized by subscription fees and then microtransactions. And you can see a lot of the same in games like Destiny.

Buttflapper,

I agree with you, to an extent. I would say it’s a lot more complicated than that with World of Warcraft, which is an MMO, and does not revolve on gambling except in the aspect of random number generated loot. This is probably the majority of looter shooters out there today as well and a large number of other games. Pure chance in just the loot and rewards. Personally, World of Warcraft did not affect me adversely, because I have very strong self-control, and was able to develop very strict limitations for my own personal life which was important in college.

But I think there’s something you’re definitely missing. Sure, while World of Warcraft can be blamed by some people flunking out of college or high school due to its addictive and fun nature, Have you considered the fact that the world we live in is simply so boring that they don’t want to pay attention to those things? Over a 20-year time span since I have graduated, high school and college has not evolved. It’s the same boring ass mess that it was when I went to school. Unnecessary classes, study only for the test and never use that information ever again, very rarely are their projects and when there are, they are silly group projects in which two out of the four members of your group are lazy and don’t want to do a damn thing. You also are faced with constant demoralizing facts thrown at you from the media and the outside world that your college degree won’t help you get a job, you won’t see any student loan relief, the wealthy elites are in positions of power and rising faster in companies than you ever will be… Reality is so disappointing. So I can understand why these people have trouble paying attention in school and want to turn to stuff like World of Warcraft, theme park MMO that has so much fun and enjoyment in it

But when we’re talking about a gacha, This feels so much more insidious. Every aspect of the entire game, not just the loot, is gambling, and you’re gambling with real money. Not your time. In World of Warcraft you don’t get a drop, oh well, try again next time. You still paid $15 for that entire month, so you can try as many times as you want on as many characters as you want. But when you pay 50 bucks for Genshin impact and you get nothing, you know what that money goes towards? Absolutely nothing. You lose that money forever. Now you are mentally afflicted with that, and you’re already considering whether or not you should pay another 50 bucks to try and get it again with the gamblers fallacy in the back of your mind that if I pay another $50 I’m already $50 in, so I have a much better chance of getting it now. It’s sickening

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

You could throw most of this same argument back at gachas. They’re just gambling because the world sucks, or something…

No, my understanding is that the reason people get addicted to this stuff is that we evolved to gather finite resources when they’re available, even if it’s rare, so we’re prey to systems like this that can control that rarity. WoW absolutely did this, just without putting a price on each interaction.

nickwitha_k,

I agree with you, to an extent. I would say it’s a lot more complicated than that with World of Warcraft, which is an MMO, and does not revolve on gambling except in the aspect of random number generated loot.

The way that the drops are is literally the same approach as a slot machine but with more steps to take up your time with boring shit and require more of your life to be dedicated to it so that there is less risk of you getting distracted by things like hobbies or games with finite stories with quality writing. A one-armed bandit might snag a handful of whales that spend all of their time feeding the machine. The Wrath of the Lich Bandit gets a much larger percentage of its users in front of it for a larger amount of their time, increasing the ratio of addicts/whales caught. Add in expansions, real money auctions, etc and you’ve got something much more fucked up than anything on a Vegas casino floor.

Ashtear,

This reads like “the only moral Skinner box is my Skinner box.”

Also sounds like you haven’t played in a while. The addition of real currency to gold trading creates an even more direct pipeline from one’s wallet to in-game gear dice rolls. Guilds selling raid gear is even more common now, and with crafting orders, a whale can spend to reroll secondary stats on crafted gear.

With the way Warcraft is throwing currencies at players now, it’s clear Blizzard has taken more than a few cues from how gacha and other live-service outfits are doing things these days. Plenty of opportunities for ruinous, addictive behavior.

Buttflapper,

Also sounds like you haven’t played in a while.

No, I’m a current member of World of Warcraft.

The addition of real currency to gold trading creates an even more direct pipeline from one’s wallet to in-game gear dice rolls. Guilds selling raid gear is even more common now, and with crafting orders, a whale can spend to reroll secondary stats on crafted gear.

It has literally always been like this. Where have you been? People were selling power leveling runs through stockades back when the game first started. They were selling BOE gear for gold, and that gold was obtained with a credit card through gold selling websites. The introduction of wow tokens just changed the recipient of the money from Gold farmers to Blizzard entertainment. I assure you that most people who are active players of the game are not buying tons of gear with gold that has been obtained through their credit card, and even if they were, it doesn’t affect you at all. The guilds that sell runs through challenging content, they have always been doing that, since the very beginning. I remember back in burning crusade people spamming chat that they would carry you through black temple near the end of the expansion. So there’s not like some new shift towards that. It’s always happens like that. The only thing that has shifted is that now, more than ever, you can play the game on your own and get your own gear. The introduction of solo delves has made it possible to gear up your character completely on your own without any additional help from others

With the way Warcraft is throwing currencies at players now, it’s clear Blizzard has taken more than a few cues from how gacha and other live-service outfits are doing things these days. Plenty of opportunities for ruinous, addictive behavior.

I fully agree with this and they have been ignoring player feedback about it for a while now, it’s completely bullshit how many stupid currencies we have and it almost feels like they are AI generating the game design at this point. Like they are going to chat GPT and asking, “what’s a good way to create an addictive loop of currencies for players?” Because some of them are in your bags, some of them are in the currency pane, some of them are bind on character, bind on account, some of them can be traded and some can’t. It’s utter insanity. Truly ass game design. This is the first time they finally made a shift back to using a single currency for PVE though, the flight stones and valor stones. Kind of like marks of valor back in wrath.

Ashtear, (edited )

Come on. We both know that legitimizing the RMT system increased the number of gold buyers and normalized the process. Not only does it now capture the players who were both a) squeamish about paying unproven third parties and b) had no recourse if they did get scammed, it’s also a far more convenient process. We know the gold-for-gear (and other services) market exploded in size because Blizzard was finally forced to make systemic changes to fight/redirect services spam. Service sellers are everywhere, and there was a point they were constantly in your whispers, your mailbox, your chat, your group finder. It’s nothing like it was 15-20 years ago.

No, gold buyers are not most players (and no, I don’t care that some players are doing it). Most gacha players aren’t whales, either. My point is that yes, your game is also chasing the whales right now and will continue to design systems to do so.

Buttflapper,

We both know that legitimizing the RMT system increased the number of gold buyers and normalized the process

Really? Where is your data to back that up? Games like old school RuneScape and World of Warcraft still have people who buy gold and get banned for it all the time. You’re also conveniently disregarding lots of the benefits of this system. People can now earn currency fully in game to pay for their subscription. Completely for free, and other players are making a choice the purchase the tokens. There’s virtually no pressure in game whatsoever in World of Warcraft that prompts you to purchase them. There’s no pop-ups, no advertisements for tokens at all. This is the least predatory form of microtransaction I have ever seen. Compare this to Destiny, in which you are constantly given currency for free to use in the eververse, and repeatedly going there back and forth being flashed with bullshit items that you’ll never have enough currency to afford.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

This reads like “the only moral Skinner box is my Skinner box.”

It is, MMO players have been doing this to gacha games for years now, it’s just pot calling the kettle black.

Goronmon,

Good luck figuring out how to avoid labeling every game every made as a “skinner box”. It’s basically a jaded person’s definition of what video games are at their core.

Ashtear,

It doesn’t have to be jaded. As with the original quote I riffed off of, these particular Skinner boxes don’t have to always be pure evil and can provide net-positive outcomes, as long as we’re clear-eyed about the consequences of participating. The latter part is what I’m trying to drive home here. Consumer behavior psychology is part of every major live-service game.

greenskye,

Haven’t played WoW in awhile, but do they now have ‘you can spend unlimited money’ mechanics? Previously it was just stuff like mounts and character transfers and stuff. I know you can also sell tokens for gold, but I thought gold kind of becomes irrelevant at some point. The best gear is bind on drop right? Theoretically I guess you can pay gold for boost runs, which probably counts as an endless money sink.

I kind of have a mental separation in my head between games with unlimited money sinks (like games with energy mechanics) where you can spend and spend and spend and it never stops, vs games that have a finite of things to buy.

It can still be way over priced, but there’s a maximum amount of money you can throw at the game. Even Diablo 4, with a relatively huge and highly priced number of cosmetic items has effectively a maximum price (though every new cosmetic increases that price). Vs Diablo Immortal allowing you to spend 10s of thousands of dollars and still need to keep spending. I think unlimited money mechanics should be outlawed or at least fully classified as gambling and regulated accordingly.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I think keeping you addicted so as to continue to paying a monthly subscription is bad on its own, and I don’t think it needs to be qualified by how much you spend overall if they’re still knowingly capitalizing on that addiction in an unregulated environment. But also, while I don’t know the answer to your question for a fact, I would imagine that they do have ways to spend unlimited money in that game if you’re so inclined.

greenskye,

Fair, but given the degradation of gaming these days I think a lot of people who aren’t paying attention have an outdated and understated view of just how bad things are. A parent might be thinking: wow had a subscription, so this game with micro transactions isn’t all that bad, not recognizing just how tuned modern predatory gaming has become at extracting money and addicting its users.

WoW mostly addicted people to playing (consuming their time), you can go hours and hours of gameplay without inputting more money. But mobile games maximize extracting maximal profit for minimal gameplay. There’s no functional difference between a gacha pull and a slot machine pull. It’s an endless, mindless set of pretty lights where you just hit the buy button over and over and over. If you sat people down and made them watch (with a running cost total) most people would immediately see the resemblance to a casino.

I think it’s helpful to break things down into more granular levels of predation, just to help clarify how bad it’s getting, even if all of it is problematic.

Goronmon,

Without being a gacha game, World of WarCraft is guilty of a lot of the same stuff.

I’m not a fan of trying to poison the well on this discussion by trying to bring in a lot of secondary issues and try to broaden the issue to the point of uselessness.

The biggest issue with gambling is the ability to lose your money.

Sure, you can waste time with World of Warcraft. But I can also waste time playing too much Baldur’s Gate 3, or Civilization, or by binging shows on Netflix.

But none of those allow me to spend thousands or tens of thousands by gambling on mechanics within the media itself.

How about we focus on that issue first?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Because I’d say the addiction is the issue. The biggest issue with gambling is the addiction. If you’re not addicted, you’re not spending time or money beyond your means. So I’d rather not broaden it to how much money it sucks out of you when the addiction is the issue. It all relies on the same principles that we know to be worth legal regulation when it’s acknowledged as gambling. I don’t know anyone who got addicted to Netflix, but they’ll “binge” shows because we no longer live in the era where we can only watch shows according to a broadcast schedule; plus sometimes, you just want some background noise while you’re doing something else, including a show you’ve seen a million times.

ampersandrew, do games w Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you've heard of before
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The Masterplan is a true heist game. You know that fantasy of playing out a heist from Heat? This is that game. It’s top down, and you control all of the members of the crew. You pick your time to initiate the heist, you hold up people at gunpoint, you prevent them from being a hero, and you try your best to get out with the best score that you can. It’s a real bummer that this team never got to make another game.

harlatan, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?

Bullet time was popularized in max payne.

Rai,

And perfected in The Specialists!

bionicjoey, do games w Do you prefer RTS or Turn based tactics

Turn-based all the way. RTS is a test of how fast you can click. APM is king. Turn-based allows you to think and plan and make decisions. Brain is king.

To be clear there’s nothing wrong with liking RTS, it’s just not for me.

nossaquesapao,

I feel the same. Some rts games feel to me more like a test of motor skills than anything else.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah same. Although I started liking RTS but then over the years realized that the stressful click centric realtime part was something I liked the games in spite of, not because.

So voer the years, I slowly went more and more towards TBS.

My current game of choice is Age of Wonders 4.

DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

If you haven’t tried Total War it honestly is the best of both worlds. Economy and movement is turn based with RTS battles that let you slow down and pause to issue orders.

Their biggest problem is being so invested in historical settings and semi-accuracy when, quite frankly, a lot of classical military history isn’t very interesting.

MeatsOfRage, do games w What are the best indie games you've ever played?

Slay the Spire. I’ve probably put more hours into this game than any other in my life.

From there, I guess all the usual picks. Hades, Hollow Knight, Braid, Fez, Dead Cells, Celeste

hikaru755, do games w What does getting "delisted" off Steam means for games I already own?

I don’t know about this case specifically, but I own Alan Wake on steam which has since been delisted because of music licenses running out. At least for that one, I still own the game on steam and can download, install and play it normally whenever I want, it’s just that people cannot buy it anymore through steam. If you’re lucky, it’s gonna be the same with the adult swim games.

CharlesReed,

Alan Wake is actually back on Steam! Remedy was able to work something out with the music rights (the reason why it was delisted) that put it back on virtual storefronts.

hikaru755,

Oh, that’s cool, thanks for the heads up!

  • Wszystkie
  • Subskrybowane
  • Moderowane
  • Ulubione
  • fediversum
  • rowery
  • test1
  • esport
  • NomadOffgrid
  • Technologia
  • FromSilesiaToPolesia
  • niusy
  • muzyka
  • informasi
  • Cyfryzacja
  • krakow
  • Spoleczenstwo
  • lieratura
  • Blogi
  • tech
  • ERP
  • slask
  • kino
  • giereczkowo
  • nauka
  • motoryzacja
  • Pozytywnie
  • sport
  • retro
  • Gaming
  • warnersteve
  • shophiajons
  • Wszystkie magazyny