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Maalus, do games w What games do you recommend for my girlfriend?

It’s funny how people overestimate what a person that never gamed can do. OP, Factorio is constant precise clicking with an unintuitive UI if you haven’t played any games. So is Satisfactory and similar others.

Start with things casual gamers play. There is a reason Sims is so popular. If you want to later (muuuch later) introduce her into the FPS genre - Portal 2. It has very little controls to remember, and very rarely is there any action that needs to require dexterity in aiming. Also, Valve invisible tutorials are awesome for new gamers.

cottonmon, (edited )
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I played It Takes Two with my gf last week and she had trouble with the most basic jumps because she couldn’t use the keyboard and mouse at the same time. It might be easier with the controller, but moving a character and the camera at the same time is surprisingly hard to learn for beginners.

The best recommendations here are the games with extremely simple controls. I think Vampire Survivors was a good pick since you only need to use the keyboard for most of the time. Adventure games was another good recommendation since it should only require the mouse.

Honytawk,

Yeah, I’d also recommend more casual games.

Good that she likes organizing, but Factorio is way over the head of any non-gamer. Doubt it would keep her entertained for long. Its only great if you like micromanaging and meticulously playing around with game mechanics. Which usually only happens after being exposed to gaming long enough.

It Takes Two is much better for a beginner since it isn’t a punishing game.

Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime is an other great couple game.

We were Here if both of you like puzzles.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Yeah, I played It Takes Two with my gf last week and she had trouble with the most basic jumps because she couldn’t use the keyboard and mouse at the same time.

This is probably a stupid question … but it was an actual mouse right? Like we wasn’t using a touchpad?

So many OSes default to the touchpad being disabled while typing and that causes big issues for WASD keyboard and mouse games.

cottonmon,
@cottonmon@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, she was using a mouse

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Okay, totally fair just checking for my own curiosity 🙂

ericbomb, do games w Games that force you to make hard choices

If you like randomly made stories, you can try Rimworld.

You will quickly find yourself asking very difficult questions. Is taking on the cripple something you can afford to do? Is using medicine on a less valuable colonist smart? Do you let some of your colonists starve, or start a war with friendly neighbors? Cannibalism will make your neighbors hate you and some of your colonists might rebel over it, but that’s better than some of them starving… right?

AnonStoleMyPants,

I should play Rimworld one of these days. Always heard good things but just never got around it.

IGuessThisIsForNSFW,

If you’re into colony Sims Rimworld is amazing! Biotech and Idology are also great DLC expansions that give you a lot more options. IMO Royalty is the weakest one so if you’re just starting out I might recommend passing on it unless you really love the game

bouh, do games w What's up with Epic Games?

Epic is the worst of the 3 platforms for a user. It is a drm like steam, but with less games on it, and even less optimized (so even more wasted resources and time loading useless advertising).

Steam has it that is makes game run on Linux smoothly, and the biggest library of games. Gog is drm free. Epic has absolutely nothing a user may want, except for free games so that you are now captive of their shitty platform.

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

This. Steam also offers reviews, achievements, workshop, communities, groups, streaming, etc, etc

Chriswild,

Epic doesn’t have to be as good as Steam; it has to be better than Steam. People don’t up and leave platforms they like for new platforms for no reason. Epic can take a smaller cut on games but if that doesn’t carry to the end user why should I care.

Buddahriffic,

At this point, I don’t know if Epic can get better than Steam in the ways that matter simply because they are clearly trying very hard to gain a dominant market position in ways that make it seem like they would abuse such a position, while Valve has had that dominant position for decades without abusing it. Valve is one of the few companies I trust these days. That trust is Valve’s to lose, not any other competitor’s to gain, though I am open to other adjacent providers (like I’ve got an xbox game pass sub, a ps5, and switch).

pendulum_,
@pendulum_@lemmy.world avatar

Valve is one of the few companies I trust these days. That trust is Valve’s to lose, not any other competitor’s to gain

So much this!

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

I have zero experience with epic or gog, but steam got incredibly bad lately. It’s not uncomon for it to consume 2 entire CPU cores just by animating some store page background.

bouh,

Steam has always been rather bad on performances, but epic somehow managed to do worse.

Gabu, (edited ) do gaming w I banned my kid from Roblox.... what next?

Minecraft / Terraria, 100%. Both games have available co-op, so they can play with their friends, and allow quite a bit of creative expression. Terraria is made by some of the best indie devs ever, if it helps, having been getting free updates for years, even though the devs said they had finished the game years ago.

For a more socially open experience, I could also recommend Sea of Thieves. It’s a game about manning a pirateship and collecting loot, where you can sometimes run into real people on their own adventures (or get your ship sunk by them, after all, they’re also pirates). There is co-op, too. A cash shop is available, but all items are strictly cosmetic, with many items available through gameplay alone.

WetBeardHairs,

Yeah I love Terraria. I’ll see if I can get his friends interested in it too. Heck I’ll buy them all copies for xmas.

evranch,

Terraria for the win, way more fun than Minecraft with more motivation for exploration and of course the combat.

I wonder if they still do that “friends pack” deal where you get 4 licenses for not much more than 1?

sam, do games w PSA: If you still have a Mojang account for Minecraft: Java Edition, you have less than a week left to migrate to a Microsoft account to avoid profile deletion
@sam@lemmy.ca avatar

So when do I get my refund?

gabe, (edited )

Never. Microsoft says fuck you.

I will say it sounds like a lovely lawsuit waiting to happen though, especially in countries with good consumer protections. I wonder how Canadian law would feel about this? 🤔

xkforce, (edited )

Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. Unfortunately I doubt any country is going to meaningfully harm them over accounts like this. (I am one of the people that cant migrate because the email I had associated with it is gone and the game was gifted to me so long ago that I wouldn’t be able to easily prove it was mine)

gabe,

You’d be surprised, EU fines and consequences to shitty anti-consumer actions like this are built to hurt. There’s a reason why the new iPhone has USB-C, and it’s not out of the kindness of their heart.

SSUPII,

Apple is building proprietary USB-C cables that the iPhone will extremely prefer. So absolutely not for kindnes

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Yes, but in this case? The users are being migrated to a new authentication account and have been notified for many years that they needed to move over - it’s been like 5 years, right? The servers are staying up. And if you’ve got a Mojang account, any possibility of this still being under even the most generous warranty is long gone.

If you want to participate in a community where you control the software, you should be getting into open-source games. Minetest is great! It has a better modding system than Java edition! But ultimately, if you’re playing commercial games, you have to deal with a reality that the company owns it and there’s no guarantee what will happen to their servers after the warranty is expired.

Wogi,

I paid like, 10 dollars what’s gotta be 15 years ago now.

Like if there’s a class action lawsuit over this I wouldn’t turn down the settlement but I’m not losing any sleep over it

Anticorp, (edited )

Some of us paid $39. :(

Edit: I think that’s what it cost. It was awhile ago, but it wasn’t cheap.

Iceblade02,

Of note is that if you purchased the game before ~2012, the user agreement had no clause regarding them being able to change it willy-nilly.

kmkz_ninja,

I mean, I paid like 8 bucks for the game (or however much it was in the indev version) but it’s still shitty and arbitrary.

Mandy, do gaming w What are some game genres / styles you like that aren't being made anymore, or are being mde but not very often?

Games that are made for the sake of making the game insread of being made to squeeze as much retention and money out of you as possible

Now thats a style that is becoming increasingly rare

that_one_guy,

I contend that there are more games out there now that are made for the sake of making them than ever before. It’s just that fewer and fewer of these games are AAA titles. The indy scene is really what are making these games nowadays.

sincle354,

That or modding. Modded Minecraft is done purely because someone wanted to have the functionality of magic wands or engineering or resource processing in their lego game. It’s completely unmonetized and gets extremely involved very fast. I fondly remember my nuclear reactor exploding and having to work around the irradiated zone. Good times.

Mandy,

the indie scene may be greater for that but is also filled with the same money making trite and on top of that constantly copying each other and barely doing anything new.

Rozauhtuno,
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Half-assed unoptimized horror game : Find the 8 pages before the tooth fairy jumpscares you!

fuzzywolf23,

Just follow a YouTuber with similar tastes and play the indie games they play. AAA is creatively dead

Mandy,

Thank you but I trust youtubers opinions as much as a gaming “journalist” which is to say, not at all

fuzzywolf23,
  1. Willing to paint an entire swath of people with a broad, negative brush
  2. Unwilling to spend any effort finding media you might actually enjoy.

The problem might not be with the industry.

Mandy,

Youtubers are inheritor by the virtue of their existence just are a little to biased like the gaming magazines, I also find text much easier digestable than 2,5 minutes of invideo ads, sponsors selfplugs, like button smashing.or whatever else they want to subject me to

I spend far more effort trying to find gold than one really should have, there shouldnt be a need to spend so much time

Take a genuine hard look at this industry, an industry full with exploitation, lootboxes, micro and macrotransactions, the same 5 ideas ad naseum, where for every cuphead you have 10 slendermans, (thats just the tip of the iceberg)

you mean to tell me in THAT industry its ne with the problem? Cause thats a fair assassment and ill support whatever conclusion you may or may not draw

fuzzywolf23,

I have hundreds of games in my steam library with no in game purchases or lootboxes which I have enjoyed for between 50 and 2000 hours each. If you really have that much trouble finding games you can enjoy playing, then you need to change your habits.

blindsight,

I think it’s more that, in absence of a gaming social circle, games discovery in the indie scene is hard. So, the easiest way for a lot of us is to find a gaming content creator who played games we like and play whatever they’re playing.

There’s a YouTube streamer I’ve been following for over a decade and every single game he plays is a 5/5 for me. At least ½ of my gaming is just games from his channel. It’s super easy; I don’t even watch him on Twitch much, but I can scan his recent broadcasts for gaming suggestions, and watch him play for like 30 minutes to figure out if it’s for me.

iAmTheTot, do gaming w Fuckin nuisance

It is news to me that people feel this strongly about steam big picture mode.

ogmios,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

On the windows xbox controller, the huge raised button in the middle turns on big picture mode. I’m not aware of any way to disable that button. It’s a huge pain in the ass if you accidentally touch it and get yanked out of whatever you were doing.

iAmTheTot,

You can absolutely turn that off in steam settings.

ogmios,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Where did they add the option? It certainly wasn’t there last time I tried to figure it out, though that was admittedly a long time ago.

iAmTheTot,

Seems like it is a little more convoluted than I recalled. I thought you just turned off focus steam, but if you go to controller, test inputs, and then reconfigure the inputs from there, you can just skip the guide button setup so that it doesn’t do anything when pressed.

ogmios,
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

Worked like a charm! Thanks!

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

I love this latest feature of steam where if I press the xbox button in a game (windows store game, not even steam) instead of opening the game bar, steam pops up and goes “hey did you want to open big picture?” Like no mother fucker, I’ve told you 30 times now, stop it.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

You could have changed your mind though. Are you sure you didn’t change your mind?

BakedCatboy,

I actually love BPM, but the button to enter is right next to the steamvr button so I usually pull a “this little maneuver is gonna cost us a minute” whenever I misclick and it’s often when I’m late for a VR social event.

breecher,

I have never even heard of steam big picture mode.

Ulrich,
@Ulrich@feddit.org avatar

It’s about a decade old but it’s the couch version of Steam, completely navigable with a controller. If you’ve ever seen a Steam Deck, that’s just Big Picture Mode.

kuberoot,

I believe Steam Deck got a completely new interface that also later replaced the old Big Picture mode. It also of course has a more complex setup, since it’s not running in a desktop environment, but that’s more about the overlay and running games.

Noite_Etion, do games w What's an absolutely medium quality game? Not great, incredible or terrible or any single ended extreme. Dead medium quality
@Noite_Etion@lemmy.world avatar

Any assassin’s creed from the last 10 years, probs gonna get hate for that but they are just so average to me.

calcopiritus,

I got the viking one for free. Didn’t make it much farther than the initial area, which is hours long.

I’d say they are worse than mediocre.

olafurp,

Also most Ubisoft games in the last 10 years overall

WolfLink, do games w GOG seems to be considering paid membership option
  • a tool for backing up offline installers

This really should be something they offer for free, and there are already some FOSS options that do this, although they aren’t as good as I’d like.

  • ability to install previous versions of a game

This is a feature they already have for free and there would (or at least should) be backlash if they were to lock that behind a subscription

  • extra insight into the preservation work they’re doing.

Sure, neat.

  • voting rights on games to bring into the preservation program.

Sure but said votes better have an actual impact.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

The previous versions of a game thing is something they took away, IIRC. They only keep the latest version and a patch to get up to it available for download, and you can only roll back to previous versions that you had already installed over time, or something like that. This is them seeing if you want to pay money to get a feature back that they used to offer, which is kinda lousy.

TinyShonk,

When did they take it away?

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not sure, but years ago, at least. Likely to save on server hosting fees. If you go to download the installer now, you only see the latest version, but you used to see every version.

TinyShonk,

Oh, I thought you could still download older versions under download offline installer

ech, do games w Aged like milk, John!

It’s an ironic line to start with.

illi,

Yeah, no civilization can get rid of bad people. It just gives them camouflage

kalistia,

It is indeed from the writers, but not from John’s point of vue, I think he recognizes that the country is changing and is a bit hopeful. Well, we know what happened next! 😅

capt_wolf, do games w Balatro's Pokermon mod is incredible
poVoq, do games w What are some video game quotes that is stuck in your head?
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Nuclear launch detected.

7U5K3N,

Planetary annihilation?

grte,

Starcraft

7U5K3N,

Ah gotcha. I sadly never played it.

dubyakay,

Never too late.

DaseinPickle,

And then you had to quickly figure where that little laser dot was placed and get rid of that ghost.

grissino,
@grissino@lemmy.world avatar

Additional supply depoes required

massive_bereavement,

Need more vespene gas.

And, alternatively

Phew, that ain't Vespene gas! Somebody crack a window.

Computerchairgeneral, do gaming w The worst of both worlds

Why is it live action? Why does Jason Momoa look like an extra from the Barbie movie? Why does this exist? Just why?

atomicorange,

That’s Jason Momoa!? Look at how they massacred my boy… 😭

RecluseRamble,

Just learned about it and my thought is: shit my kids probably are gonna love it and I will have to watch it eventually.

Nythos,

Such a shame you’ll have to watch a kids movies with your kids.

gerbler,

I wish it were a good kids movie. You know they exist right?

thermal_shock,

rons gone wrong, Mitchell’s vs the machines, wall e, all the spiderman spider verse movies. top notch shit.

Goronmon, do games w Is Elder Scrolls 6 doomed to fail? I can't see how it will work

I feel like your post was being overly dramatic and then I noticed your comment about Starfield being a one out of ten game, and at that point it’s hard to take you seriously.

The second strike was Fallout 76, crazy how disappointing his game was and even to this day is still broken and in disarray.

Fallout 76 may not be an amazing game, but they’ve turned it into something pretty enjoyable to play, and from my experience a couple years ago “broken” as an adjective doesn’t really make sense as the game ran and played perfectly well.

They failed spectacularly with Fallout 4, which took the gaming industry by surprise after seeing how poorly developed it was, and the extreme low quality of the story, how unfinished the game was, how simply broken many areas and features were, I could talk about it for hours.

So, clearly you are just trying to push an agenda for some reason and are just making things up whole cloth at this point. I’m not sure what fantasy world you are living in but this isn’t based in reality. It’s just something you’ve made up in your head.

Also, I don’t see the point in doom-posting about a game that’s years away from release. What’s the reason for fantasizing about a game’s failure? Is it that people enjoy drama like the recent Concord release and are trying to look for future games to chase the same high?

TrousersMcPants,

Also don’t forget the developers for Fallout 76 are completely seperate from the devs for mainline elder scrolls and fallout and the only prior experience they had as a studio was making the multiplayer for doom 2016

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

the thing with Starfield and F76 is that all of their major problems won’t exist in ES6 simply due to the format differences. I’m confident they’ll churn out another ES game roughly on par with the last few.

Noodle07,

And it will have the exact same lock picking mechanic we have every damn time

That_Devil_Girl, do games w What games popularized certain mechanics?
@That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml avatar

Though it was used in a few games before, a Quake tournament and Half Life 1 cemented the use of WASD controls.

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

ESDF is the superior keybinding

WhiteHairSuperSaiyan,

I am glad I am not alone!

teft,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

There literally dozens of us!

WhiteHairSuperSaiyan,

But for real, i struggle to play games with wasd default and now keybind changes. Part of it is as simple as my hand is just used to using esdf and I constantly hit the wrong keys in those games. But the loss of useable keys on my pinky just feels so bad.

GriffinClaw,

^ This. So much this.

Used to play Warframe pretty religiously with wasd, where shift was part of a key movement combo. After a year or so, developed significant pain in my left pinky.

Shifting to esdf was damn awkward for about 2 weeks. The sheer pinky comfort though.👌

WhiteHairSuperSaiyan,

I wish I could upvote twice. It just allows so much more customization, that allows much more comfortable hand positions. I often with disable my caps lock and use A and caps lock as run and crouch.

dogslayeggs,

I am unable to play Fallout 4 because E is hardcoded to be “Use.” You can change all the movement keys, but for some reason you cannot change that keybinding. So you can make E be forward movement, but every time you approach a door or chest or person you will automatically open or talk whether you want to or not.

It made the game completely unplayable for me.

offspec,

Asdf is just better for general key availability imo

Kolanaki,
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I never understood this for first-person shooters. You can’t walk forward and backward at the same time, so I don’t see why being able to press the forward and backward movement keys at the same time would be useful at all.

Top down games with 8+ directions of movement it’s great, though.

offspec,

It’s not about being able to push both movement buttons at the same time, it’s about being able to push more buttons in general. For hero shooters, mobas, MMOs, and other games with lots of inputs spreading out your reachable keys is really good.

Takumidesh,

Esdf requires more dexterity and is generally less accessible.

I’m an idiot and misunderstood which key bind was being talked about

SplashJackson,

It’s such a pain remapping controls on every. single. new. install.

But it’s worth it. Fuck wasd

mPony,

it’s one key over, is it really swear-word level different?

SplashJackson,

If naughty words cause you a level of righteous indignance, my recommendation is to abstain from online activities until one reaches the age of majority

Chef_Boyardee,

Been RDFG since about 2002. One of my roommates in college was in the top thousand on Unreal Tournament. He talked me into it. God, I get good at that game playing against him.

nokturne213, (edited )

I remember using wsad on an ascii graphics game I played back in 85 or so. I think it was called dungeons and dragons, but was not made by tsr. Larn, hack, and Moria were all similar games but I did not play those until later.

pyre,

yeah HL definitely was the one popularized it as default. quake players changed the bindings for it; i know because i played that game with old-school doom/duke controls

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