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Flax_vert, do piracy w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”

I think the best way is to just have basic piracy detection, if someone trips it, then have a message that you can get past appearing guilt tripping them for it lmao

CluelessDude,

Back to OG times in gaming where you would have stupid hats saying pirate or other weird things happening in game like not being able to complete it if it was cracked, good times.

Blackmist, do piracy w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”

Crackers: We don’t do it for the piracy, we just like the challenge.

Denuvo: Try this one then.

Crackers: Too hard bro, at least give us a chance!

I acknowledge that this isn’t going to be a popular opinion in a piracy sub, but the main reason people hate Denuvo is that it works.

It’s basically killed the entire game hacking scene, because by the time they break it, nobody is interested in the game any more. There’s like one person left that can do it, and they’re more than a little bit odd.

It may be “anti-consumer”, but you know what was worse? All the other shit they tried on PC. Always online bullshit. Single player games that you couldn’t save any more if your connection wobbled. Actual rootkits.

space_comrade,

Death to the concept of intellectual property and all but I’ve never actually felt Denuvo making problems for me when I played a game using it, you’re right it seems to be working as advertised.

I’m still hoping someone to crack it in a more reliable and fast manner, fuck large gamedev companies and their profit margins.

Blackmist,

I’ve definitely played games that used it, and I wouldn’t even have known without the handful of negative steam reviews shouting about it.

Sethayy,

“I’m too stupid to notice the difference so it must not exist”

ne0phyte,

People hate Denuvo because it requires a regular connection to the Internet and has a big impact on the performance of games.

I’m not buying these games not because I can’t pirate games with Denuvo (I don’t really pirate games at all anymore) but because they tend to run like shit.

MonkderZweite,

I pirate because the original runs like shit.

jsdz,

I haven’t pirated any actual software since the 1990s (too cowardly) but my hatred for Denuvo and the like burns with unsurpassed intensity. I will never knowingly buy a game that includes it. “Anti-tampering” indeed. I’m not sure if that shit should be legally allowed at all, but certainly not in ordinary mass-market PC games.

It does require you be online, and it is essentially a “rootkit.” Its malware features are more polite and better hidden than some of the worst of what has been tried before, but that just adds to the danger that it might be seen as acceptable by people who don’t know any better.

SlippyCliff76,

I’ve seen Denuvo combined with the always online requirement with the latest Far Cry 6 on steam. The always online requirement makes a cracked version worth it in my use case.

Blackmist,

Most bad Denuvo stuff seems to come from any extra DRM they add as well, just in case Denuvo wasn’t enough. Always online sounds like one of those extras, because I don’t think it’s part of Denuvo itself. I think the Denuvo online requirements are when you install, every X days (seems to vary from two weeks to a month, probably configurable per game), and when you change your hardware configuration.

Denuvo alone is enough, because as soon as Denuvo is removed, the rest can be removed by regular mortal hackers.

gjghkk,

I acknowledge that this isn’t going to be a popular opinion in a piracy sub, but the main reason people hate Denuvo is that it works.

You act like this is some hidden secret lmao. You should change your name to Captain OBVIOUS.

AOCapitulator,
@AOCapitulator@hexbear.net avatar

damn you fucking got their ass

sugar_in_your_tea, do games w Denuvo and DRM punish the consumer, legendary PC developer says

Yeah, how about… no DRM and instead focus on making games people want to buy. It seems to work well for CD Projekt Red, and surely it would work for others as well.

Piracy is a service problem, not a price problem.

HipHoboHarold,

I actually go to GOG first when possible specifically for this reason.

sugar_in_your_tea,

I use Linux, and Steam just works better for me than GOG. I also switch between my Steam Deck and Linux desktop, and Steam just makes that seamless.

I like the idea of GOG, but Steam just works better in the service department.

cyberpiggy, do piracy w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”

Basically lit the fuse to keep people pirating…

privadesco, (edited ) do piracy w Legendary PC developer says Denuvo is “a punishment to the consumer”

Denuvo is the apex of a long history of bad choices.

Maybe actually sell us the games in a way we really own it, without any sort of online activation/account/telemetry/data-gathering like when we could buy a disc and just use it, and it should all be ok.

I feel like a dinosaur every-time I think this nowadays, but what is so problematic with the “own as in physically own” that is so hard to implement? If they want to provide a service, sell a service.

In the past I used pirate versions of games I bought just to be able to play them offline, or because I did not agree with the terms of service. It is so much for our info, it goes beyond just knowing you are the real owner of the software copy: it comes to the point where it looks like it’s to guarantee we are not its’ owner.

Now some DRMs even destroy gaming performance and its just faster to use 'ked versions. I hope it changes somehow.

Infiltrated_ad8271, (edited )
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

Is it really possible to own them properly? If in almost all cases we lack the source code and there are even proprietary requirements for both software and hardware, what chance do they have of working halfway well in a few decades?

MaggiWuerze,

And with stuff like SecuRom, even owning a legit physical copy of the game does not help you when the service vanishes

Oha, do games w Denuvo and DRM punish the consumer, legendary PC developer says

rws my beloved

Barky, do games w Lords of the Fallen devs are worried there are so many soulslikes

There’s a large contingent (me included) who will play every souls like if it is good. The quality should be the main concern.

Elderos,

It is a double-edged sword for a dev. When a genre is over-satured (which most arent) there is usually a large player pool of potential customers but you’re competing with so many games that realistically your game needs to be really amazing to compete. Reason is that there is so many soul-like that a lot of players have a backlog of games to play already, and unless yours reach top 10 or something, there could be dozens and dozens of games that are simply more enticing than yours, meaning the average gamer will never make it to playing your game.

Making a game that makes it to the top on a saturated genre is simply very hard, and a very risky business decision.

toastus,

That’s true.

I may play this at some point, but I am surely not buying it while I have DS2 unfinished, because I started ER, DS3 and Sekiro wait in my Steam Library and Epic gave away Nioh.

Damn I have a full time job and Soulslikes are not the only games I enjoy.

I think even From software alone publishes games faster than I finish them.

DeriHunter, (edited )

Yup came here to say something similar. As long as there’s quality they’ll be fine and in this specific case - if they’ll deliver what their showing and not over promising they’ll do way more then fine, the gameplay video looks awesome. I hope this what we get

bpmd, do games w Lords of the Fallen devs are worried there are so many soulslikes

Is that Ludo?

Oneeightnine, do games w Lords of the Fallen devs are worried there are so many soulslikes
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“Man stuck in traffic fails to realise he is in fact, the traffic”

Naz, do games w Denuvo and DRM punish the consumer, legendary PC developer says

I bought Baldur’s Gate 3 on launch day, within the hour, not even realizing the GOG version was DRM-free. We could’ve pirated the game but all four of my friends bought it.

kurcatovium, do games w Denuvo and DRM punish the consumer, legendary PC developer says

Who would have said that?

fibojoly,

Running With Scissors, the developer behind Postal.

pivot_root, (edited ) do games w Denuvo and DRM punish the consumer, legendary PC developer says

Executives everywhere:

“When we introduce digital rights management technology to our products, we do it to protect our bottom line loyal customers. DRM technology enables us to forgo server-authoritative anticheat provide a more consistent and fair gameplay experience, preventing us from having to spend money on servers cheaters and hackers from impacting your enjoyment. We work extensively with our software vendors to ensure that we add checks everywhere the impact on performance and usability is negligent, and you can’t use cheats to bypass our microtransactions your experience is optimal. While we understand that some individuals may feel upset with the permissions required by our DRM and anticheat technology, we can assure you that we don’t give a fuck about take the utmost care in protecting your privacy and safety.”

counselwolf, do games w League of Legends spin-off director let go amid Riot Games layoffs

spin off director? what was he in charge of?

sugar_in_your_tea,

From the article:

Berbach remarks on his time with Riot, where he worked on the launch of its CSGO and Overwatch 2 rival, Valorant, as well as time with the League of Legends team before and during his position as game director for LoL Wild Rift.

So Wild Rift, a 5v5 MOBA on mobile.

worsedoughnut, do games w You can now play as a Minotaur, Kobold, and even FFXIV races in Baldur's Gate 3
@worsedoughnut@lemdro.id avatar

I just wanna play as a Kenku… [sad bird noises]

Gurei,

GF’s gonna want an Owlin, so I sympathize.

WarmSoda, do games w You can now play as a Minotaur, Kobold, and even FFXIV races in Baldur's Gate 3

Mods add things to a game: News at 11

e-ratic,
@e-ratic@kbin.social avatar

Game journalists sitting in their office refreshing nexusmods on popular games

CaptainEffort,

Most games’ mods are restricted to reshades and trainers. A game having a thriving modding scene, like Skyrim, is actually pretty rare. So Baldurs Gate having a mod that adds tons of races is pretty cool, and potentially a good sign of things to come.

WarmSoda,

Between this site and Steam Workshop mods are not restricted to reshades and trainers.

CaptainEffort,

I’m literally a premium member of that website, and have been modding for over a decade. Yes, they usually are.

WarmSoda,

LMAO ok guy

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its true, you need an API or source code to delve deeper usually.

WarmSoda,

I’ve been modding since Doom in the 90s. Idk what games you’re playing, but almost all the games I’ve ever played on PC have mods. But whatever.

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