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skurk, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
@skurk@beehaw.org avatar

*this will probably not work with the Steam version

jordanlund,
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Fortunately, I have a Win11 boot drive for my Steam Deck.

peanuts4life,
@peanuts4life@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah, this seems to be using the Xbox play anywhere system. So people who have a PC and an Xbox have thier saves synced. I’m sure it will not work steam.

conciselyverbose,

I still won't buy stuff there, but this is a far better way to make a storefront interesting than Epic. Instead of locking everything behind exclusive deals to try to force people to use your platform, they're adding actual meaningful benefits to using their storefront. Cross ownership is nice. Game pass is nice. That's how you provide competition.

bermuda,

i came to lemmy to escape the “fuck epic” circlejerk, thanks

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@fedia.io avatar

Nothing about Lemmy would suggest people would like Epic anymore than any other place on the internet. Their exclusivity deals have the potential to upset anybody regardless of what website they post on, so while there's absolutely a degree of hivemind hatred, it's rooted in understandable reasons.

That being said, it's disingenuous of that person to imply that Epic never gives any good reasons to use the platform, the biggest being the waves of free games they put on "sale" from time to time, though you could go down another rabbit hole of whether thats really something that would make gamers want to use the platform, or if it's just a nice bonus people pop in to claim while still spending their money on Steam when it comes to actual purchases.

bermuda,

I wasn’t being completely serious about leaving for lemmy for that one particular reason. However, one of the biggest problem I found with gaming spaces on “that site” was a variety of dumb circlejerks and tribalism, which is something I was hoping this site would be free of due to a perceived level of maturity. This includes “le epic sucks” discourse.

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@fedia.io avatar

It's hard to outrun that kind of human interaction anywhere that there are enough users and the anonymity of usernames, I do think it's not as bad on the Fediverse still, I hope it stays that way

GhostMagician,

Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t mean it’s automatically a circle jerk. People do have valid reasons for not choosing to spend money on the epic platform.

Silviecat44,

Yeah. Epic games is actually good now

Carter,

Free games aren’t an interesting incentive?

Powerpoint,

Halo works fine for cross save. You will have to but the game on steam as well though

peanuts4life,
@peanuts4life@beehaw.org avatar

Oh it does? So you need two copies of the game, but cross save works on steam? That’s actually kinda useful for folks with steam libraries and game pass.

Powerpoint,

Halo and other Xbox titles do. You would have to purchase it on steam but you’d still get access to your saves.

SenorBolsa, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
@SenorBolsa@beehaw.org avatar

pcgamesn is scraping the bottom of the barrel, they literally just find ways to say something with starfield in the title. This has been a thing since at least 2016 when FH3 came out.

It’s a cool feature, always worth some mention, but baffling that they feel the need to generate a whole article out of this.

boonhet,

Yup. It’s also worth noting that it’ll prevent you from playing it on Linux because you can’t run most Microsoft Store apps via wine or proton. Have to buy on Steam for that, but then you lose xbox.

Kinda sucks if you’re a Linux user AND have an Xbox lying around.

Helvedeshunden,

You can still play cheaply on Xbox with Game Pass, though, if you want to dual wield Starfield.

boonhet,

I did use it for a while and discovered some games I loved, but I have periods where I don’t do as much gaming and at that point it’ll take more months to finish a game than ((cost of game) / (cost of game pass)) so lately I prefer buying again.

Now it’s been long enough since I last used game pass, I should be able to do the xbl gold to gamepass upgrade trick if it’s still a thing of course.

Skiptrace,

It’s about to not be a thing. They are removing XBLG, and changing it to be “Gamepass Core” so the new 4 tiers of Gamepass are as follows.

Core: 25 Gamepass Games + Online Multiplayer Console Gamepass: Full Gamepass Library, No Online Multiplayer. PC Gamepass: Full PC Gamepass Library (PC games don’t need Online Multiplayer as a paid thing) Gamepass Ultimate: Full Console+PC Gamepass Library + Online Multiplayer + Cloud Gaming

shiveyarbles, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once

Woah there hoss, let’s make sure it’s worth playing on one platform first.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Unless they fuck it up worse than 76, I’m pretty sure Starfield will likely be remembered the same way Skyrim and Fallout 4 are.

Seathru,

Mediocre successors?

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

Pretty much. They’re likely never to make something as good or that surpasses Morrowind.

nondescript_citizen,

I think there’s a good chance that they fuck it up as bad as 76. I’m willing to be proven wrong, Bethesda as a company hasn’t done much to convince me otherwise. I’ll be honest, their acquisition by Microsoft has only given me more monumental doubts. I think the biggest thing Bethesda has going for it right now is pedigree and the fact that the release of their last big series entry was so long ago that people are forgetting how terrible not just the releases were, but they way they handled them as a company, especially where the pre-order merch was concerned.

WarmSoda,

There was a play tester that said when Redfall released Starfield was in even worse condition and that’s when they decided to delay it for another year.

I’m all for delaying games until they’re actually done, but it’s pretty telling they wanted to release both games in those states.

As a company they’re definitely being held up by some rosy glasses. And mods. They bank on mods to fix whatever they’re too lazy to.

Don’t forget to preorder Starfield so you can maybe receive a… wrist watch? Huh? Lol

joelfromaus, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

We need to find out which system has the most bugs and then play solely on that system for the true Bethesda experience.

Snipe_AT, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
@Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev avatar

That is awesome! Looking forward to the reviews I hope this game delivers everything promised!

HannahBecz,

If Todd Howard’s hyping of Oblivion, Fallout3, Fallout4, and Skyrim have taught me anything - the game will come nowhere to delivering anything promised - will be massively buggy - and I’ll easily sink 100s of hours into the game not caring in the least bit and having a blast the entire time. Purchasing it again and again on every platform as the years pass. Though with gamepass I suppose I don’t have to worry about purchasing it anymore.

While Morrowind was my entry into the series in 2002/2003 - I had never heard of it until my head chef at the time told me I needed to purchase it. His hype delivered. But I have no clue what the hype of Morrowind pre-release was like or what was promised vs delivered. But I imagine it was quite similar.

WarmSoda,

Only thing I remember pre Morrowind was advertising on graphics cards. My friends only knew about the game because I found the strategy guide at work (electronics boutique) before it came out and I wouldn’t stop talking about it.

I don’t think Todd Howard had his leather jacket at the time, so he wasn’t all over the place with promises.

Okalaydokalay,

This is me all day, every day.

I’m worried about preordering it and still going in with low expectations. I can’t believe everything Todd has been saying these last few years.

nondescript_citizen,

For the love of god I hope you haven’t pre-ordered. A fricken pox on the gaming industry.

Okalaydokalay,

Hell no! I do not ever preorder anything.

forgotaboutlaye,

Honestly I haven't been following the development or marketing for this game, but I like Todd's games so I know I'll end up buying it.

Faydaikin,
@Faydaikin@beehaw.org avatar

Without actually remembering anything too well, I do believe marketing around Morrowind was mostly graphics related. It was Beth’ switching to full on 3D and Morrowind was pretty advanced in that regard.

I mean, the screenshots in the magazins sold themselves to anyone with the mind for fantasy. Hell, it’s still the most beautiful and alien world to come out of Bethesda to date.

storksforlegs, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once
@storksforlegs@beehaw.org avatar

That’s the screenshot they’re going with? Really?

MJBrune,

Really, Mark Ruffalo? That’s the face you’re going with? God this movie’s gonna suck. - www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaZ73Yc75YE

steakmeout,

Ryan was truly a King. It’s been just over 10 years since his death.

MJBrune,

I’m sad he wasn’t around for the Australian beef. - www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPPPeyflV5I

sarsaparilyptus,
bermuda, do gaming w You can play Starfield on PC and Xbox even if you only buy it once

the minecraft model

liminis, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher studio CD Projekt laying off 100 staff

Seems like they tried to grow the company waaaaaaaaay too fast (practically doubled their number of employees since TW3 was released).

Obviously this sucks, but it’s good that they’re not unceremoniously dropping people with zero notice (looking at you, Activision). Doubt we can expect an environment where gamedev layoffs suddenly disappear, but people actually getting advanced warning about this stuff would be a huge improvement on the industry’s norms.

megopie, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher studio CD Projekt laying off 100 staff

The financialization and corporatization of the game industry and it’s consequences has been a disaster for the average player and game dev.

Catastrophic235,
@Catastrophic235@midwest.social avatar

You should go to Poland and do some Johnny Silverhand type shit.

Gork, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher studio CD Projekt laying off 100 staff
@Gork@beehaw.org avatar

Just speculation here, but is this a sign that CDPR is tilting more towards mainstreaming GOG over prioritizing game development? Valve did exactly that with Steam and they very, very rarely release games they make any more.

Steam is a cash cow that literally just prints money for them. I’d imagine CDPR corpos to be salivating over that kind of low maintenance income that comes with owning a large digital distribution gaming platform.

AdventureSpoon, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher studio CD Projekt laying off 100 staff

Isnt that like, a usual part in the game development cycle? I've seen news reports like this for over 15 years now. Developer starts with ideas for a new game, small team. Developer starts actual production of game, team grows. Developer realizes how much work there actually is to be done, team grows even further. Game is almost done and in a good state, team starts to shrink since there is no longer enough work for everyone. Part is laid off and part is reassigned to early development of DLC. Game is released, and smaller team is able to do patchwork. Developer starts with idea for new game, cycle repeats.

Perhaps the main reason we havent seen a lot of these news blurbs over the past few years is that A: CDPR is a good punchingbag. Common memory of the target audience hold the bad release of CP2077, so its easy to get back in the habit and haul in these clicks. And B: TripleA game development mas mostly conglomerated into a few big developers/publishers with several teams around the world. That means that when one project winds down, surplus personnel might be easily integrated into a different team that is just winding up. CDPR is one of the few tripleA developers not able to do this (yet).

MJBrune,

No, this is not really typical for a large studio. I’ve been in the games industry for 10 years and losing your team every project is a studio killer. No one does this anymore aside from really small indie studios that can’t afford to keep the team together. This is not normal for a studio that knows what it’s doing.

interolivary,
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  • MJBrune,

    Saying that GDPR doesn’t know what it’s doing is like saying MGM doesn’t know what it’s doing. They aren’t the best in the industry but they’ve still made some quality products. They know far more about what they are doing than an indie studio that hasn’t even released their first game.

    Robaque,

    That’s a low bar lol

    interolivary,
    !deleted5791 avatar

    GDPR fans always come up with the most ridiculous excuses for GDPR’s terrible quality. “Well at least they’re better than an indie that’s never released a game”, like seriously?

    MJBrune,

    I’m not a GDPR fan at all. They put out one game I even got through and it was mediocre. I’m just not a fan of the general gaming public thinking they know more than a studio full of veterans.

    interolivary, (edited )
    !deleted5791 avatar

    Ah the classic “if you haven’t done X yourself you have no right to criticize X.” I trust you never criticize books, movies, paintings, games etc of you’re not in those fields?

    And, funnily enough, I spent almost 15 years in the games industry as a developer, but I suppose I’m still not allowed to say anything bad about GDPR’s quality because, uh, reasons

    MJBrune, (edited )

    I’m not saying that they can’t criticize. I’m saying it’s still a studio that I would say knows what it’s doing more so than a studio that is going to lay off a bunch of people just because the project they were working on ended. You’ve been in the industry for 15 years, how many times have you been laid off at the end of a project at a well-formed studio? In my experience, it rarely happens. If you have a good team you don’t break it up willingly.

    That’s all I said. It doesn’t make business sense to do so and CDPR and any well-put-together studio knows this. Any business knows this. To say that “Well, it’s CDPR thus they are going to make stupid mistakes that a novice indie team would make” is silly and not seated in reality.

    egosummiki,

    Not really the case, I was hired 1.5 year ago. There were a bunch of new hires in the meantime and after the layoffs the team looks really similar to what it looked like at the point at which I was hired.

    MJBrune,

    If that’s the case, it’s not the norm. Most studios do not lay people off every release. They get them working on another project immediately. Typically a project starts up as the game is wrapping up for release then people switch gradually.

    PenguinTD,

    It was the “traditional” pipeline and to be honest only good for the “publisher” and some big enough studio, but really aren’t that good for those job hunting game devs(and part of the churn and burn culture, can’t and won’t trying to form union if your turn over is high.)

    It is how you get broken games every new release cause the guys that sticks around as supervisor didn’t actually code the previous games or know the actual workflow/pipeline that makes the last game(their last touching code/software might be like 10+ years ago), the middle leads etc might have burned out during last crunch and go to next company after their vacation because fuck this crunch thing I have a family, then then newbies wearing shiny shipped game under their belt move to next company for a better position/pay. So no one or very few actually knows how last time things were done and may or may not have a voice during decision making. Every game, you build the team almost ground up and thus, make similar and more mistakes with ever increasing pressure from schedule and scale.

    It’s not an healthy cycle, it is something that creative industry should break away from.

    borlax, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher studio CD Projekt laying off 100 staff
    @borlax@lemmy.borlax.com avatar

    So the half-cocked product release strategy doesn’t work and its time to punish labor for the mistakes of executives.

    elscallr,
    @elscallr@kbin.social avatar

    "punish labor" 😂

    They'll find new jobs. Companies have no loyalty to employees and employees have no loyalty to companies. Nobody is in it for love. They got paychecks, now they'll find someone else to give them paychecks. It's transactional.

    entropicdrift,

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  • elscallr,
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    I've been laid off. It sucks, but you find a new job, and in the tech world that usually comes with a pay bump.

    entropicdrift,

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    Well that's the thing, I don't really consider it injustice. I consider it as something that sucks, but things that suck happen. It's just kind of part of life. You get past it. I guess that's my view.

    Like a farmer experiencing a drought. That's not injustice, it just sucks.

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  • elscallr,
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    It's exactly that. There's no one person, no group of people, that can control a market. It's a force, an abstract concept at this point. Any thoughts that it can be controlled is hubris or naivety.

    entropicdrift,

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  • elscallr,
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    What's your ideal situation? They create make work jobs? Give the development and production teams some brooms and fire the custodial staff instead? Their job is done. Time to find new ones.

    entropicdrift,

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  • elscallr,
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    You ever seen a camel? It's a horse that's been designed by a committee. Democratically run things don't accomplish shit because you can never get groups of people to agree on anything.

    elscallr,
    @elscallr@kbin.social avatar

    You ever seen a camel? It's a horse that's been designed by a committee. Democratically run things don't accomplish shit because you can never get groups of people to agree on anything.

    entropicdrift,

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  • elscallr,
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    No reason to be that way, we were having a nice conversation.

    entropicdrift,

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  • elscallr,
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    I'm sorry, I took this the wrong way:

    Go figure! People with different personal priorities existing! What a world!

    Friendship,
    @Friendship@kbin.social avatar

    Camels are pretty dang well designed creatures so I'd say the committee did pretty great there. And the alternative is being at the whims of a single person or a small group none of whom have any incentive to care about anything other than the enrichment of their own personal finances. It's a literal autocracy.

    Governance structures where the workers own and have a say in the means of production are bound to have their own issues to be sure, but it beats out the current model.

    elscallr,
    @elscallr@kbin.social avatar

    They might be good at being camels, but they're terrible horses. And if you've ever tried to lead a group of more than a handful of people, you'd know they can never agree on shit. Someone has to make the call.

    Robaque,

    Nice

    Aosih,

    If there’s no money and no work to be done, the natural outcome are layoffs. What alternative is there? That the company continues to pay all the staff from the management’s pockets? That’s not exactly a great scenario for the workers either, since there’s no prospect for growth, and everyone will still be out of a job once the company inevitably fails. If you see management making bad decisions, start searching, don’t wait for the layoffs.

    Mandy, do gaming w Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher studio CD Projekt laying off 100 staff

    That happens literyally every time with these hackjob of a company

    xuv, do gaming w Fallout meets Cities Skylines in brutal new Steam strategy game

    The game is Homeseek and can be found here.

    ThirdWorldOrder,

    Thanks for the link. 68% yikes

    XbSuper, do gaming w Fallout meets Cities Skylines in brutal new Steam strategy game

    Survive mars 2? It looks nearly identical, and this headline is misleading af.

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