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Mwa, do games w After 350,000 signatures in an EU consumer rights campaign, Ubisoft is adding offline modes to The Crew games - but not the now-dead original

this is why i aint getting the crew 2 its discounted but NEVER

bjoern_tantau, do games w "The father of PlayStation" says everyone at Sony thought the PS1 would fail when it was first pitched
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I mean, Nintendo believed in them, until that failed.

TachyonTele,

That was because Nintendo went behind Sonys back on the deal. They were trying to eat both pies.

altima_neo, (edited )
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

But also because Sony was trying to claim a bigger slice of the pie from CD game sales. It’s both companies being shitty.

PunchingWood,

Sony came up with the idea of the disc drive, it only made sense them wanting more profit from the part they designed. It was just a disgusting move by Nintendo to go behind their backs and close a deal with another company, while not telling Sony.

Glitch, do games w "The father of PlayStation" says everyone at Sony thought the PS1 would fail when it was first pitched

Feels like they want it to fail sometimes

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think that’s true with how much support they give to their first party titles. I mean, their console exclusives are top-tier.

SpaceNoodle,

They’re no Microsoft …

frezik, do games w "The father of PlayStation" says everyone at Sony thought the PS1 would fail when it was first pitched

Given the contemporary examples, they weren’t wrong to think so. Everyone was trying to make a console in the 16/32-bit era.

  • PC Engine/Turbografx
  • Phillips CD-i (only sorta a console)
  • Atari Jaguar
  • Neo Geo
  • Amiga CD

Some of these are better than others–I’m fond of the PC Engine–but none can be called successful. Neo Geo is somewhat of an exception because it was used as arcade hardware. Some others here are the butt of jokes. There’s also a bunch of Japanese consoles around this time that go nowhere, and are little more than fodder for retro gaming YouTube channels.

Sony took a big gamble and won.

Mercuri,

Sega Saturn and Dreamcast also probably factored in. They weren’t nearly as successful as the Genesis. With even established brands floundering it’s no wonder people didn’t think the Playstation would work.

TopRamenBinLaden,

Not really. Just Sega CD. The PlayStation and the Saturn both came out in 1994 so they were directly competing with each other. The Dreamcast didn’t come out until 1998, after the PlayStation was already successful.

Mercuri,

Ah, yup. You are correct. For some reason I thought they came before.

GooberEar, do games w "The father of PlayStation" says everyone at Sony thought the PS1 would fail when it was first pitched

As a kid, by the time I started hearing about the system via video game magazines, which were kind of like miniature websites but printed on paper and then distributed via mail and stores, I was convinced it would be the next big thing. By the time it was launched, I knew it was going to be the new top dog in the industry. When I finally got my hands on one, it was (pardon the pun) game changing for me.

The system definitely had its flaws, but it was an evolutionary step up and order of magnitude bigger than anything I’d ever experienced before.

And go figure, it was the last system I owned before I stepped away from the gaming hobby for nearly 2 decades. Life, uh, got in the way.

Furbag, do games w "The father of PlayStation" says everyone at Sony thought the PS1 would fail when it was first pitched

Hard to blame them for thinking that at the time. CD-based consoles had a very rough start in that era, but the PS1 was probably the first actual hardware success that used the CD exclusively as it’s medium. Nintendo had pushed cartridges to their absolute limit with the technology they had, so it was only a matter of time before someone ended up succeeding where others failed.

jordanlund, do games w "The father of PlayStation" says everyone at Sony thought the PS1 would fail when it was first pitched
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Gamers did too… Sony’s track record prior to the PS1 wasn’t great:

www.gamesdatabase.org/list.aspx?publisher=sony_co…

Katana314, do games w "The father of PlayStation" says everyone at Sony thought the PS1 would fail when it was first pitched

Easy to forget both Sony and Microsoft had nothing to do with gaming previously. Even MS had terrible inroads in spite of games for PC being written in DirectX.

I felt like Amazon and Google had pretty good chances. It was only due to terrible direction both managed to screw it up.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all

Nobody was missing out on anything. All of 343s Halo games have been garbage, but Halo 5 takes the garbage cake home.

The translation layer is awesome for every other game though.

tacosanonymous,

I was a big LAN player in the heyday of the original, even got through 4.

That trash game came with the xbone I bought for my wife and I still couldn’t play it.

Microplasticbrain,

343 just sucks at making good halo stories, great gameplay (on infinite atleast), but they just don’t know where to take the story. I was disappointed in 4 skipped 5 and infinite was another halfbaked story that just felt empty.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Half of Halo 4 was the best Halo story. The other half of it was the worst Halo story.

RightHandOfIkaros,

343 is okay at making gameplay, but they are not good at making Halo gameplay. I mean, Halo 4 was just Call of Duty with Halo window dressing. And it makes sense because 343 was so proud to announce that they hired people who hate Halo to work on Halo. Well look how that turned out.

fox2263,

They capitulate too much.

As the other reply said, half the (H4) game was good. But they listened to the haters and changed up H5 dropping or rehashing the majority of things from H4. Then they capitulated again and threw everything out for H6 and gave us essentially H7 in all but name.

Years spent bringing everything to a head for 6 with Cortana, the Guardians, even Halo Wars. Then it’s all confined to audio logs.

I want to finish that damn story 343. Not whatever the fuck Infinite was.

Microplasticbrain,

Yea infinite was strange because the whole thing was like a prologue

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve said before, Infinite feels like the DLC to a Halo 6 game that was never released.

catloaf,

Isn’t that true of all Halo games though? I’ve only played 1 and 2, but the writing in those was just not good at all. I can’t imagine subsequent games being even worse.

MossyFeathers,

I couldn’t get through Halo 4’s campaign when it was released as part of the MCC, nor was I able to get though Halo Infinite’s (it wasn’t bad, just… meh; nowhere near as good as the Bungie campaigns but not trash either, just not as good). I would still like the option to play Halo 5 on PC just so I have the ability to play the main campaign, plus I’ve heard it’s the best multiplayer Halo? But yeah. Even if I never actually play it, it’s nice to have the option.

On a tangential note, I think 343’s Halo games would have been considered good if it wasn’t for Bungie’s Halo. I don’t think their campaigns are honestly bad, per se (though again, haven’t tried to play H5), they’re just bad in comparison to the “OG” games.

WhyFlip,

Pew pew pew!

simple,

Yeah there’s a reason there hasn’t been much interested in Xbone emulation, almost everything worth emulating has gotten PC ports over the years or is also on PS3 which does have a good emulator. Maybe if Sunset Overdrive was still a console exclusive I’d bother, but I guess this is cool for some peeps.

TrustedTyrant,

Forza horizon 2 is the only game I can think of that I would use this for.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

Halo 5 had a lot of problems. Bit it’s a damned masterpiece compared to Infinite.

Halo 5 had great gunplay, Warzone Firefight was a blast, the Guardians were a great stand-in for the Halo rings, Cortana was an intimidating enemy by the end of the game, the lootboxes were actually better than the armor cores and marketplace from Infinite.

There are A LOT of negatives in there too. But a lot of positives. Infinite is just a shitshow from the beginning.

BestTestInTheWest,

Do people not like infinite? A mate and I are playing coop currently and I’m really enjoying it.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I have a lot of problems with it. Between the “story” and the copy-paste map. I would rather the game didn’t exist, because at least then they could make a follow up to 5’s end.

I really don’t want to spoil your fun if you’re enjoying it though. A lot of the gameplay elements are fun to play around with.

intensely_human,

Infinite has coop now??

russjr08,

As far as I recall, Infinite has had online co-op, just not local/split screen co-op.

But don’t quote me on that!

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

It did not release with co-op. I think they had to figure out how to make it work with the open world map and zip lining. When I had finished it, it still didn’t have it. When they added it, they also announced that they had stopped trying to make local co-op work.

russjr08,

Jeez, no wonder Infinite has always had such a bad reputation then!

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

As far as I know, they gave up on assassinations too. To be honest, by the time I finished the game, the missing features were at the bottom of the list of problems I had with it.

turtletracks,

The Master Chief Collection doesn’t have split screen campaigns on PC

So fucking upsetting getting it all set up only to be told it’s online only. It’s fucking Halo!!!

turtletracks,

Then even more pissed off that it’s in the console version. Why cut features between the two??

maxenmajs,
@maxenmajs@lemmy.world avatar

It’s in a more or less acceptable state now and I play it, but it sure doesn’t live up to the original 10 year live service promise.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Them just retconning Cortana was such a letdown. Honestly while 5 wasn’t great, it did set up infinite to be really really good. Then they went with a really boring alternative.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

This is my biggest complaint. Halo 6 was set up to be an amazing game. Then Infinite ended up with zero story. The most interesting stuff in Infinite were the little flashback sequences that bridge 5 to Infinite.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

You can really tell that campaign took a back seat in the game. A shame because the open world was honestly a lot of fun, it was just empty and hollow because of such of a lame story. You could have been jumping between worlds fighting Cortana for the survival of the human race. Instead… we’re lost on a ring again, and we’re fighting a brute guy we don’t care about, while desperate for any actual story about what the hell happened

PraiseTheSoup,

Halo 5 is still the worst Halo game.

Omegamanthethird,
@Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world avatar

I STRONGLY disagree. 5 was a letdown with some bright spots. Infinite is offensively bad with no redeeming value.

Even if you remove Infinite, 5’s combat is better than 4’s in every single way. I would split second worst between those two depending on what aspects you’re comparing.

PraiseTheSoup,

5’s combat is better than 4’s in every single way

Halo 5 has ADS and Halo 4 does not. This alone makes Halo 5 combat worse.

cevn,

Infinite is good now with the netcode having been re worked. It has a few poor maps and bad choices regarding forge and split screen. Ut actually playing the game is fun in most cases.

Appoxo,
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I played Halo 5 Forge on PC no scratch the Halo itch when MCC wasnt even announced yet (I felt so cool for knowing that exists).
If I could choose, I’d play Halo 5 Forge over Infinite. But I like the gadgets more than the booster feature.

curry,

It’s still important for video game preservation, no matter how crappy the games themselves might be.

stardust, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all

Hopefully I’ll get to finally play Gears of War 2.

Blxter,
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Yes been wanting to play the og gears again for years now on PC I want a gears style MCC so bad

ABCDE,

Isn’t it all on game pass?

Blxter,
!deleted4407 avatar

Maybe (probably) but I don’t want to play it via gamepass

ABCDE,
Blxter,
!deleted4407 avatar

I actually didn’t know the first game was there never used or looked at the Xbox store

Blackmist,

That’s already out isn’t it? Remastered and everything.

Blxter,
!deleted4407 avatar

The first is apparently remastered on the Xbox store for PC I had no idea tbh never used the Xbox store on PC.

mox, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all

chuckle

Author apparently thinks hardware emulation is the only kind of emulation.

ms_lane,

Wine is not an Emulator is not an emulator.

caseyweederman,

Gnu’s Not Unix Image Manipulation Program

Redjard,
@Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

personal homepage hypertext preprocessor hypertext preprocessor

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

API wrappers are not emulators.

mox, (edited )

Anything that emulates something else is an emulator. That something else could be hardware, or runtime behavior, or services, or a combination thereof. (It could even be a turtle, although we’re talking about computers in this case.)

Wine is an interesting example despite that silly backronym that was abandoned years ago, or perhaps because of it. It not only translates system and API calls, but also provides Windows work-alike services and copies Windows runtime behavior, including undocumented behavior. If it were just an API wrapper or “translation layer”, a lot of its functionality wouldn’t work.

The shape of a business envelope might not be an equilateral rectangle, but it is still a rectangle.

But go ahead and believe what you want. I’m not looking for an argument.

smeg, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all

The rest of the article is mildly interesting, but if you just took the bait from the headline:

On a technical level, Xbox One is essentially a PC using a heavily modified version of Windows, and this software simply translates native Xbox applications into a form that can run on standard Windows PCs

NikkiDimes,

So…software emulation…kinda. I guess translation technically. Whatever lol.

intensely_human, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all

They are, however, accomplishing the same thing as emulators, just with a different strategy.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

And I feel the hardware requirements end up way lower, when I had a bad PC I could play Burnout Revenge at full speed on the 360 emulator, but the PS2 version ran like a turtle.

tiddy,

A screwdriver can be a hammer if you’re determined enough

yamanii, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I can’t wait to play the proper Forza Horizon 2, and Crash Team Racing, curse you Activision for not bringing this one to PC!

MazonnaCara89,
@MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t know which one of the ctr games you are referring too, but you might be interested about this one www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCwSkmAp7f8, there is an effort from ctr community to port the ps1 game on pc

Tattorack, do games w After 11 years, Xbox One emulators are finally coming to PC - but they're not actually using emulation at all
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Well, of course not, because Wine Is Not an Emulator. Considering it’s called XWine1, would there be a Linux version too?

ATDA,

I think that’s called proton (jokes aside yes I know steam wouldn’t do that for obvious legal implications.)

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