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patchwork, do gaming w Final Fantasy 16 sales did not meet high expectations, says Square Enix president

honestly, i started the demo, and while the gameplay wasn’t bad, the characters and story didn’t grab me at all, and i lost interest almost immediately. maybe i’ll snag it in a year or two, after the GOTY, during a sale

shiveyarbles, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies

So here’s a marketing idea… Full Metal Beer

brihuang95, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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Hoping the Snake Eater remake is good…

Fjaeger,

One can always hope, but I’m not holding my breath on that one.

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Lynchy, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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Is it me or does that seem low?

chloyster,

It’s a good amount. Roughly the same as God of war and elder scrolls

…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_best-selling_video_game_…

TheOtherJake,

Yeah but MG is WAY older @ 1987 vs GoW in 2005 and ES in 1994.

Metal Gear Solid was one of the best games on the original PlayStation. I haven’t been into consoles since the PS2. Metal Gear Solid was so good compared to anything else at the time, the idea it is only at 60M now, seems like a major fumble and lack of management. I guess it is like Metroid for being underdeveloped or given to idiots “with a new vision” like in the case of Metroid.

chloyster,

I mean technically the first was was 1987, but the first 2 games were not super big, and unless you count the weird NES port, only came out in Japan. the first actually big title didn’t come out until 1998. Also definitely do not agree on that Metroid assertion. I thought dread was outstanding. And I am pretty sure its the best selling game in the franchise

TheOtherJake,

I loved Dread and Prime 2. I tried playing Super Metroid on switch, but the controls are just too poor to pull off the advanced combination moves with the slow low quality emulation. I’m disappointed that there are not a dozen Metroid titles on the switch. Everything in the Prime series should be ported.

I’m mostly referring to the long hiatus(es) before Dread, and all of the nonsense from developers other than Retro Studio. I understand they were probably in a funky position when it came to writing and coding for a new 3D engine after all of the Prime series had played out the life of the prior engine. IMO, the entire SDK for Nintendo hardware should account for key franchise titles like Metroid. These games should have story boards and plans from first light of new hardware. The plans should always include classic titles too. My biggest complaint about Nintendo is the low quality of most titles on the platform. They are too focused on recruiting developers instead of quality games. Sure there are some great games like BotW, TotK, and Dread, but I’m not going sifting through all the junk in their store to try and find anything else worth playing. I got a couple of titles that a lot of people recommended, and hated them with no recourse and they cost as much as good games. I would have paid for and played all of the Prime series if it had been ported, but Nintendo totally fails at maintaining their legacy titles effectively. It is this lack of availability now, and the stupid fumble of letting extra developers with their own forked vision into the franchise that I am calling a fumbled opportunity.

chloyster,

Fair enough. I definitely agree that I wish some of their franchises were treated better. Metroid Dread I am hoping is a return to regular games for that series, and Pikmin 4 which I recently finished is also amazing. Not everything is great but there is still some stellar stuff

Anissem, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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_haha_oh_wow_, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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What a muppet...

AccmRazr, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Look at this clown! First, they came out saying they weren’t even fans of the material. You have Henry Cavil in the lead role who is a super fan of the source materials arguing with you and the writers about the show. And then you finish it off by blaming the audience for your decisions. Mind you, the audience you have ultimately attracted is largely influenced by the decisions you have made throughout the production of YOUR show. The audience didn’t make this show, YOU did

deweydecibel,

Is this the same person? This is just an executive producer, not the writer or show runner.

Pretty funny to call out someone for not reading something while simultaneously not reading the article to know who it is you’re even talking about.

Overzeetop,
@Overzeetop@kbin.social avatar

If you're the executive producer, it's your fault that your team members fucked it up. If you cannot find a competent writer to properly express nuance on the screen, it's still your fault. You hired the wrong person to adapt the books. You are the boss, the final say, the one-ass-to-kick when things go wrong. The Witcher is not some nuanced story about regional distinctions in low-visibility communities told in short form, which seems to be his only acclaimed experience, followed by several production failures.

This entire interview comes down to "those lazy zoomers don't know how to appreciate good film." From the description of his past, massive failures it appears to be a problem with his process and ability, not an audience problem.

bane_killgrind,

by several production failures

Hehe savage

Windex007,

If you’re AN executive producer:

youtu.be/8P_AnvUIvJs

OfficialThunderbolt, do gaming w Final Fantasy 14 heading to Xbox

Good for Xbox users, I guess. Wish they would properly port the game to macOS.

Eggyhead,
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They still haven’t? I bought the game on Mac years ago. I had the latest MBP at the time, the last intel machine before they announced the M class chips, and the game just couldn’t run. I contacted squeenix and they refused to refund me. Basically said it was wine’s fault my computer wasn’t supported despite advertising Mac on their website.

I ended up playing through the game in PlayStation, but I had assumed they would have got it working on the m class chips by now.

OfficialThunderbolt,

They still haven’t. The “Mac version” is really the Windows version running in a Cider wrapper.

carbunkie,
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The community-made XIV on Mac launcher/compatibility layer has better performance than the official client, and works on Intel Macs with AMD GPUs and all Apple Silicon Macs! I play it on a recent MacBook Air and it's extremely smooth:

https://www.xivmac.com/

liminis,

I just hope it doesn’t mean more of SE prioritising growing the playerbase over retaining vets. I’m pretty new myself, but the homegenisation of jobs (especially healers, dear god) is clearly not good for the long-term health of the game.

OfficialThunderbolt,

I would disagree; if the jobs weren’t homogenized, then the game would be very difficult to balance. That causes metas to spring up, which causes everyone to jump from the underpowered jobs to the overpowered jobs, and then they react very badly when a balancing patch is released, and the meta changes due to nerfs to popular jobs/buffs to unpopular jobs.

liminis,

Beyond a certain point, you have to take a risk and say screw balance; otherwise you just make everything the same, and render jobs little more than cosmetic differences.

Captain_Ender, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

He's really blaming the execs and showrunner between the lines I think. Saying she had to "make tough decisions" means "she fucked up". It's Netflix and the showrunner who think they need to go to the lowest common denominator with scripts to appeal to Americans, especially hard fantasy/sci-fi. So he's kinda pissed at both groups really not just audiences.

It's a shame because other works like GOT 1-5 show the opposite. Go for complex, go for the source material, and audiences will be patient for it.

Madison_rogue,
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Then blame execs and showrunners, not the audience. American audiences are savvier than he thinks, just because he had one pitch that didn't fare well with American audiences doesn't mean that they won't embrace more complicated elements of The Witcher.

Plus it just sounds sad; blame audiences for something you, as a producer, can't effectively produce.

masterspace,

He wasn’t showrunner, just EP on 16 episodes, and he can’t burn the showrunner or Netflix if he wants more work in the industry.

Madison_rogue,
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I didn't say he was a showrunner.

falsem, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Yeah, blame your customers.

Simplifying is really different from what they did which is completely alter characters, unnecessarily kill off characters, introduce new plots that didn't exist, etc. The Lord of the Rings movies, and the recent Dune movie both did a lot of that but are considered fantastic adaptations. Even Game of Thrones was an excellent adaptation for the first ~5 seasons and had huge mass market appeal while still being complex.

This is just shitty writers making excuses.

isthingoneventhis,

man the dune movie was so interesting sounding and watching it was such a … idk… it was an experience. There was so much stuff that seemed so loosely strung together to the point of feeling almost baffling. I wouldn’t think LoTR or early GoT are comparable?

falsem,

:shrug: I liked it.

C4RP3_N0CT3M,

You might need to go back and watch it again. I had a completely different experience, and I found the plot rather cohesive. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen in my opinion.

GoodEye8,

I felt like Dune needed some prior knowledge of the books to really follow the plot. Not because the plot wasn’t cohesive, but because so much plot was condensed into a movie that was already 2 and half hours long. It’s not the fault of the movie, the book is just dense. But it does end up disorienting for the average viewer who can’t instantly adjust their understanding of the universe to fully follow the plot.

C4RP3_N0CT3M,

That's fair. I never read the books or even watched the original movie, but I do have fans in my circle that have given me a bit of an indirect knowledge of the Duniverse. Even still, the acting, the cinematography, the music, everything in this movie is just amazing to me.

Kolanaki, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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Right… It’s the audience’s fault and not the show runners who outright refused to follow the books and games leading to the star of the show leaving. 🙄

Unaware7013, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Alternative headline "Person highly involved with making show blames anyone but themselves for failure"

CraigeryTheKid, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Season 2 (“Book 1” in the US), I agree made some TERRIBLE changes, especially around Yennifer’s relationship with Ciri.

Having just finished Season 3, however, I feel like they mostly pulled back into following the book’s major plotlines. Sure, a TV show makes some concessions on content, but overall I felt it followed the books “okay”. Everything that happened in Thanedd was close, and everything after that too, in the final 3 episodes. Rience was the strangest change to me, since that doesn’t happen for several books and it’s Ciri’s doing.

Does the general public agree? Or are we still so mad about Season 2 that we refuse to see Season 3 positively?

Arcane_Trixster,

I’m not watching S3, knowing Cavill won’t be back. Not worth investing anymore time. The series is a failure to me.

Veraxus,
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This. I see no point in investing any more of time in this show. Netflix needs to fire everybody, pull every episode from existence, and just start over with people who actually care about the source material and are willing to invest the time, effort, and respect to do it right.

CraigeryTheKid,

I guess you two are answering my last question - we’re so mad at Season 2 that the negative verdict is decided regardless.

My point was that Season 3 seems to have pulled back and DID honor the source material much better, but I guess it was too late.

Veraxus,
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Yeah, fair, but I didn’t like the first season, either. Cavill was perfect, Joey Batey as Dandelion was… fine… and that is where the positives stopped. The show was a mess from the start and you can’t just erase those seasons if they did happen to do a little better on 3… and knowing that Cavill is out for season 4… there is just no point. I’d rather replay Witcher 3 again than ever watch another minute of that show.

CraigeryTheKid,

oof, you just reminded me - Dandelion in season 3 was… not as good as Season 1/2. Even down to the detail that every time he came on screen, my wife demanded to know what they did with his hair. That, and the strangely unnecessary sex scenes with another male.

ok ok, season 3 wasnt perfect either. but I was “surprised” that the big events at Aretuza and the major events afterward all followed the book rather closely…

PabloDiscobar, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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Series Produced by
Jason F. Brown ... executive producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Steve Gaub ... executive producer / co-producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Tomasz Baginski ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Sean Daniel ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Lauren Schmidt Hissrich ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Mike Ostrowski ... executive producer / producer / co-executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Jaroslaw Sawko ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Piotr Sikora ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Simon Emanuel ... consulting producer / executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2021)
Matthew O'Toole ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2021-2023)
Matthew Bouch ... consulting producer (12 episodes, 2021-2023)
Katie Bullock-Webster ... post producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Declan De Barra ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Ildiko Kemeny ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Jenny Klein ... co-executive producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Sneha Koorse ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
David Minkowski ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Suzie Shearer ... line producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Mark Birmingham ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sean Guest ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sam J. Brown ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Ben Burt ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Javier Grillo-Marxuach ... executive producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Haily Hall ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Sasha Harris ... producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Veselin Karadjov ... line producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tania Lotia ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tera Ragan ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Alik Sakharov ... executive producer (7 episodes, 2019)
Kathy Lingg ... executive producer (6 episodes, 2019)
Juan Cano Nono ... Líne Producer Canary Islands (4 episodes, 2019)
Beau DeMayo ... co-producer (2 episodes, 2019)
Stephen Surjik ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023)
Marc Jobst ... consulting producer (1 episode, 2019)

pivot_root,

God… it’s like having having an entire 8-level deep organizational structure for a team of 10 people. No wonder it’s mismanaged to shit.

loobkoob,

Yeah, it looks pretty bad from that list. It may not be quite as bad in practice - some of them may have their name attached because, for instance, they co-own a production company where only person is involved but all three co-owners get their names on the credits. And some of them may be involved on the technical side, some for the story side, some just for financing, etc.

But even so, that looks like far too many names to have any kind of coherent vision.

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