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brihuang95, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
@brihuang95@sopuli.xyz avatar

Hoping the Snake Eater remake is good…

Fjaeger,

One can always hope, but I’m not holding my breath on that one.

Lynchy, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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Is it me or does that seem low?

chloyster,

It’s a good amount. Roughly the same as God of war and elder scrolls

…wikipedia.org/…/List_of_best-selling_video_game_…

TheOtherJake,

Yeah but MG is WAY older @ 1987 vs GoW in 2005 and ES in 1994.

Metal Gear Solid was one of the best games on the original PlayStation. I haven’t been into consoles since the PS2. Metal Gear Solid was so good compared to anything else at the time, the idea it is only at 60M now, seems like a major fumble and lack of management. I guess it is like Metroid for being underdeveloped or given to idiots “with a new vision” like in the case of Metroid.

chloyster,

I mean technically the first was was 1987, but the first 2 games were not super big, and unless you count the weird NES port, only came out in Japan. the first actually big title didn’t come out until 1998. Also definitely do not agree on that Metroid assertion. I thought dread was outstanding. And I am pretty sure its the best selling game in the franchise

TheOtherJake,

I loved Dread and Prime 2. I tried playing Super Metroid on switch, but the controls are just too poor to pull off the advanced combination moves with the slow low quality emulation. I’m disappointed that there are not a dozen Metroid titles on the switch. Everything in the Prime series should be ported.

I’m mostly referring to the long hiatus(es) before Dread, and all of the nonsense from developers other than Retro Studio. I understand they were probably in a funky position when it came to writing and coding for a new 3D engine after all of the Prime series had played out the life of the prior engine. IMO, the entire SDK for Nintendo hardware should account for key franchise titles like Metroid. These games should have story boards and plans from first light of new hardware. The plans should always include classic titles too. My biggest complaint about Nintendo is the low quality of most titles on the platform. They are too focused on recruiting developers instead of quality games. Sure there are some great games like BotW, TotK, and Dread, but I’m not going sifting through all the junk in their store to try and find anything else worth playing. I got a couple of titles that a lot of people recommended, and hated them with no recourse and they cost as much as good games. I would have paid for and played all of the Prime series if it had been ported, but Nintendo totally fails at maintaining their legacy titles effectively. It is this lack of availability now, and the stupid fumble of letting extra developers with their own forked vision into the franchise that I am calling a fumbled opportunity.

chloyster,

Fair enough. I definitely agree that I wish some of their franchises were treated better. Metroid Dread I am hoping is a return to regular games for that series, and Pikmin 4 which I recently finished is also amazing. Not everything is great but there is still some stellar stuff

Anissem, do gaming w The Metal Gear series has now sold over 60 million copies
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_haha_oh_wow_, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@_haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social avatar

What a muppet...

Kolanaki, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
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Right… It’s the audience’s fault and not the show runners who outright refused to follow the books and games leading to the star of the show leaving. 🙄

Unaware7013, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Alternative headline "Person highly involved with making show blames anyone but themselves for failure"

HidingCat, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Remember, Game of Thrones did well, and that's not a simplified show during its peak.

Computerchairgeneral, do gaming w The Callisto Protocol developer Striking Distance Studios lays off 32 employees

It's always a shame when layoffs like this happen, but not surprising given the game's lukewarm reception. Hopefully, the laid-off employees can find other work and the studio can recover.

Hdcase, do gaming w The Callisto Protocol developer Striking Distance Studios lays off 32 employees

That’s a real bummer, especially as I ended up really liking Callisto. I hope everyone lands on their feet.

Master, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@Master@lemmy.world avatar

I blame the fact that the producer doesn’t give a single fuck about the story.

falsem, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Yeah, blame your customers.

Simplifying is really different from what they did which is completely alter characters, unnecessarily kill off characters, introduce new plots that didn't exist, etc. The Lord of the Rings movies, and the recent Dune movie both did a lot of that but are considered fantastic adaptations. Even Game of Thrones was an excellent adaptation for the first ~5 seasons and had huge mass market appeal while still being complex.

This is just shitty writers making excuses.

isthingoneventhis,

man the dune movie was so interesting sounding and watching it was such a … idk… it was an experience. There was so much stuff that seemed so loosely strung together to the point of feeling almost baffling. I wouldn’t think LoTR or early GoT are comparable?

falsem,

:shrug: I liked it.

C4RP3_N0CT3M,

You might need to go back and watch it again. I had a completely different experience, and I found the plot rather cohesive. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen in my opinion.

GoodEye8,

I felt like Dune needed some prior knowledge of the books to really follow the plot. Not because the plot wasn’t cohesive, but because so much plot was condensed into a movie that was already 2 and half hours long. It’s not the fault of the movie, the book is just dense. But it does end up disorienting for the average viewer who can’t instantly adjust their understanding of the universe to fully follow the plot.

C4RP3_N0CT3M,

That's fair. I never read the books or even watched the original movie, but I do have fans in my circle that have given me a bit of an indirect knowledge of the Duniverse. Even still, the acting, the cinematography, the music, everything in this movie is just amazing to me.

Big_Boss_77, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@Big_Boss_77@kbin.social avatar

Have they canceled this dumpster fire yet?

PabloDiscobar, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@PabloDiscobar@kbin.social avatar

Series Produced by
Jason F. Brown ... executive producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Steve Gaub ... executive producer / co-producer (24 episodes, 2019-2023)
Tomasz Baginski ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Sean Daniel ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Lauren Schmidt Hissrich ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Mike Ostrowski ... executive producer / producer / co-executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Jaroslaw Sawko ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Piotr Sikora ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2023)
Simon Emanuel ... consulting producer / executive producer (16 episodes, 2019-2021)
Matthew O'Toole ... executive producer (16 episodes, 2021-2023)
Matthew Bouch ... consulting producer (12 episodes, 2021-2023)
Katie Bullock-Webster ... post producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Declan De Barra ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Ildiko Kemeny ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Jenny Klein ... co-executive producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Sneha Koorse ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2019)
David Minkowski ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Suzie Shearer ... line producer (8 episodes, 2019)
Mark Birmingham ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sean Guest ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2021)
Sam J. Brown ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Ben Burt ... associate producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Javier Grillo-Marxuach ... executive producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Haily Hall ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Sasha Harris ... producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Veselin Karadjov ... line producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tania Lotia ... supervising producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Tera Ragan ... co-producer (8 episodes, 2023)
Alik Sakharov ... executive producer (7 episodes, 2019)
Kathy Lingg ... executive producer (6 episodes, 2019)
Juan Cano Nono ... Líne Producer Canary Islands (4 episodes, 2019)
Beau DeMayo ... co-producer (2 episodes, 2019)
Stephen Surjik ... executive producer (2 episodes, 2023)
Marc Jobst ... consulting producer (1 episode, 2019)

pivot_root,

God… it’s like having having an entire 8-level deep organizational structure for a team of 10 people. No wonder it’s mismanaged to shit.

loobkoob,

Yeah, it looks pretty bad from that list. It may not be quite as bad in practice - some of them may have their name attached because, for instance, they co-own a production company where only person is involved but all three co-owners get their names on the credits. And some of them may be involved on the technical side, some for the story side, some just for financing, etc.

But even so, that looks like far too many names to have any kind of coherent vision.

Gutotito, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@Gutotito@kbin.social avatar

We made it this way because you're stupid. Also, if you don't like it, you're stupid.

No wonder it turned out to be a pile of dogshit.

Ragnell, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

I know everyone thinks I'm a brittle American, but I'm kind of sick of everyone blaming Americans for choices that are made by people who think poorly of Americans.

Windex007,

As a general rule, the people making decisions to simplify things because they think Americans can’t handle a complex source ARE Americans.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@Windex007 Yeah, but they see themselves as smarter than the rest of the Americans when they are in fact, the bottom percentile.

Windex007,

I understand that.

My point is your original comment said you were sick of people blaming Americans for something that is literally being done by Americans.

The bland media algorithm designed to maximize profits, the “MCU formula”, comes straight from the top. People who see media simply in terms of investment vehicles for thier quarterly shareholders reports are the ones who lay down this law, and those “people” are overwhelmingly American business interests.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

I know what you meant. There is such a thing as self-hatred, or thinking you're the only exceptional member of a group. And there's also such a thing as don't trash the majority with the actions of a small minority, particularly a small minority that thinks they are better than the majority.

My point is that the reason this was dumbed down is that movie execs THINK Americans need that, not that Americans need that. Movie execs just think the average American is dumber than a movie exec.

masterspace,

I’m pretty sick of Americans feeling picked on.

You have an illiteracy rate of like 20%. Make a real public school system and then we’ll talk.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@masterspace Oh go milk a moose.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@masterspace All right, so I was interested in the statistic so I looked it up and 20% of Americans are at Level 1 literacy or below according to Wikipedia... which means that actually a lower number than that is functionally illiterate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

And out of curiosity I looked up Canada. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/literacy 22% Level 1 or below.

Allowing for margin of error, your public school system sucks just as much as ours. So go milk a moose in French.

masterspace,

Being creepy by stalking my past conversations instead of arguing the point at hand, and ironically furthering my point by mistakenly using a study on Canada from 1989.

Our current (2013) sub-level 1 literacy rate is around 4%: www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/…/tbl1.1-eng.htm

No, our public education systems are not equivalent even if that makes you feel bad.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

Stalking your past convos? No. I saw you were from lemmy.ca and therefore Canadian. Then I did a search for the 20 percent statistic and of course Wikipedia came up.

I don't feel bad. I know our school system sucks because of a lot of systemic problems. I do think your education is not as great as you think it is if you simplify the 20% statistic to full illiteracy and if you think a random person on kbin needs to set up a new public school system before she can have an opinion.

That's before we unpack the idea that literacy=intelligence, which is not always the case.

I do feel a bit bad about the stalking accusation. I didn't realize the ability to see your server in the automatic kbin reply setup combined with the esoteric knowledge of how to use Duck Duck Go would frighten you, Mr Better Educated Than Me. We can stop if this is too much for your heart. This weather can be tough on the body and I know you guys aren't well-versed in heat safety.

masterspace,

if you think a random person on kbin needs to set up a new public school system before she can have an opinion.

You’re allowed to have an opinion, if your opinion is that you feel like America is picked on for being too dumb in this context then I would suggest that you need some strong evidence to persuade people that literacy is not a proxy for education, or more specifically, the ability to hold more complicated medieval fantasy plots together.

And I am well aware of our flaws, our literacy rate is 1.25x the OECD average which is shameful. I’m just not false equivalencing that with America’s 6.33x. In fact if you remove America as the outlier dragging the OECD stats down we look even worse.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@masterspace So we're helping you. I bet you feel bad about making fun of us now.

masterspace,

Punching down never feels good

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@masterspace And there we get to why I'm such a brittle American. See, the immense privilege of the powerful in our country, our military prowess, and the export of the my of American exceptionalism have CONVINCED a lot of people across the world that if they bash Americans it is punching up.

It's not. See, we do HAVE a bad public school system and the richest in our country have spent 40 years sabotaging it in some scheme to fund private schooling. Not only that, school funding is partly by federal and state funding--which is sabotaged by those bastards--but MOSTLY by local taxes so the people in the rich areas get the good schooling with arts, extracurricular activities, foreign language studies and a pool while the people in the poor areas get a whiteboard, an untrained Army veteran as a teacher, and the requirement to buy their own school supplies.

As Americans we have to fight constantly against this sabotage, WHILE working full-time jobs with greater hours and fewer benefits than any other Western country just so we can afford to go to a doctor--as we are called by not just the privileged in our country but the entire WORLD lazy, stupid, complacent and undeserving.

So when you make fun of the average American and call them stupid because their public school system which they need to fix before they complain about people making fun of them? You're punching down.

Meanwhile, you accuse me of punching down but I have spent this thread mocking you for living in a country with a vast abundance of natural resources and wildlife, and living in a country where it's common to ACTUALLY learn a second language rather than learn some grammar rules and tick off boxes, which as I say above, is a privilege in the US afforded to the better schooling that you get by virtue of living in a rich area.

Now, if you'd say Americans are stupid because we invaded the wrong country... Well, then you'd be punching up. But instead you're making fun of something that we are actually at a disadvantage in.

masterspace,

Except that I didn’t make fun of anything, I merely pointed out that it’s plausible that Netflix felt like they had to dumb the Witcher down for American audiences.

As Americans we have to fight constantly against this sabotage, WHILE working full-time jobs with greater hours and fewer benefits than any other Western country just so we can afford to go to a doctor–as we are called by not just the privileged in our country but the entire WORLD lazy, stupid, complacent and undeserving.

And yeah, I recognize that sucks, but you don’t have to do that because of external forces, you have to do that because many people in the group called “Americans” repeatedly vote for politicians who put those systems in place. So when people call Americans stupid, there’s a reason for it. Many are stupid and vote for stupid shit that goes directly against their interest. I’m sorry if you don’t like to hear that or be associated with your fellow countrypeople who do, but it’s the reality of the situation when we’re talking about “Americans” as a whole.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

This you?

I’m pretty sick of Americans feeling picked on.

You have an illiteracy rate of like 20%. Make a real public school system and then we’ll talk.

You weren't just making fun, you were saying you're sick of us being bothered when people made fun of us.

masterspace,

You weren’t just making fun, you were saying you’re sick of us being bothered when people made fun of us.

Except that the context in which I was replying was not one where someone felt picked on because they got made fun of, it was one where someone felt picked on because someone said that it’s plausible they dumbed down the Witcher for Americans.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@masterspace Yeah, but YOU are the one who brought public school into it and you did it in a clever little jokey way.

If you had said "Well, that's what you get for attacking the wrong country", it would be one thing. But you went and made fun of the public school system. You punched down. And now, for your sins, you are stuck in this conversation.

masterspace,

Yeah, but YOU are the one who brought public school into it and you did it in a clever little jokey way.

Because the quality of education affects intelligence, or more specifically, the ability to hold more/less complex witcher plotlines together in your head, so it is a rationale thing to bring up when discussing whether or not Americans are actually capable of holding more/less complex witcher plotlines together in their heads.

You punched down

No, I merely held up a mirror and caused you to have a temper tantrum

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

I'd hate to see how you'd react to an actual temper tantrum.

No, man. You're mocking people who don't have access to a high standard of learning. You're trying to rationalize that away so that you don't have to feel bad about it.

masterspace,

Again, didn’t mock.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

Did too.

masterspace,
Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@masterspace You're really so obsessed with the last word you're gonna let this dissolve into name-calling? are you still IN school?

masterspace,

I know you are but what am I?

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

@masterspace Less tired of this than me. You win this time, Canada.

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