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anewbeginning, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton!

ImaginaryFox, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

How? Aren't they the ones in charge? American audiences have as much influence on the product they chose to deliver as Americans did for Dark. Great show by the way.

RaoulDook,

Dark and 1899 were both great. 1899 got canceled already though, because the Netflix people are stupid.

c0mput0r,

1899 was garbage and can't even be compared to Dark. Dark was so much better.

TheAndrewBrown, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@TheAndrewBrown@lemmy.world avatar

Game of Thrones was the most popular show in the world not too long ago and is more complicated. House of the Dragon is also complicated and did well just last year. There have been tons of complicated dramas that have been popular. This is just a dumb excuse

Hyperreality, (edited ) do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
Challenger, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

When asked what he believed to be significant for younger people, Baginski replied: “Just emotions. Just pure emotions. A bare emotional mix. Those people grew up on TikTok and YouTube, they jump from video to video.”

So basically It’s Gen Z that he couldn’t create an interesting plot from the source material

Evil_Shrubbery, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Sooo … are we getting some blonde royal witch that lost her kingdome to ride a dragon (flying unicorn?) & genocide a bit in the next series?

The previous time around we got some really top level memery out of it … tho it would be will be a shame with this one :/

ASprigOfSage, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

Yup cause Amaricans wrote the script and decided against the millions of of fans (including the lead actor) who specifically said the new direction sucked directly to the entire production team… yup amaricans.

BettyWhiteInHD, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot
@BettyWhiteInHD@lemmy.world avatar

It’s always smart to bite the hand that feeds you.

bl4ckblooc, do gaming w The Witcher producer blames Americans and social media for Netflix series' simplified plot

This is coming from someone who never even read the books and got in fights with HC because of deviating from the world of the books/games?

Wisely, do gaming w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

I seem to have a differing opinion here but I love long games if it is actually full of good content.

I don't play games with micro transactions and find a lot of open world games to be full of time wasters. If that's all it is then sure cut that out.

But with games costing $70 I would feel like I wasted my money for only a 10+ hour experience like some comments are wanting. That can be done in a single day. Assassin Creed games really aren't meant to be replayed either.

Games with lots of replayabilty are such good value and keep me entertained for hundreds or even thousands of hours. Games like Civilization, Persona 5, Zelda, Elder Scrolls, GTA, Metal Gear, old school Final Fantasy, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Xcom, Command and Conquer, Colonization, etc.

Maybe it's more a sign of modern games being full of stuff that isn't fun? Boring extremely limited NPC's, lots of wandering with nothing to do but collect some useless thing. In that case I agree with all the other comments but instead of wishing for a shorter game I would wish for a better game that is fun to play for long periods of time.

Zahille7,

I paid full price for Jedi Survivor, and minus a couple (somewhat big) bugs, I feel like I got my money’s worth after I finished the story. I think it took me around 60-ish hours to get to 99%

3rd,

I'm currently on my second playthrough of the original Fallen Order and while I got the game for free I'd say it's worth full 60$. It's a great intriduction to the souls-like games for someone new to the genre

Homeschooled316, do gaming w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

I think too many people have tricked themselves/each other into thinking long games are bad because they are long. No, it’s because 95% of the time (moreso today than in the past), a high hour-to-complete time signals a game with 10 hours or content stretched out to an absurd extreme, often in support of MTX/live service type features available ay launch.

An 80 hour game can be good if it has 80 hours of actual content. A 25 hour game can be bad if it’s still just 3-4 hours of real game stretched out to 25-30.

rustyricotta,

Very true.

Some of my recent games below. Good long games:

  • Elden Ring (~120 hours first playthrough)
  • Divinity 2 (some parts do slog)

Bad long games:

  • CrossCode (I know this game is well loved, so a bit of a hot take). I did complete it, but I would have been far happier if it were half as long.
ProfessorFlaw, do gaming w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

Yk what? Good, the most memerable games where abt 10-20 hours, celeste, ghostrunner, ac blackflag, these 300 hour games are boring

GunnarRunnar,

I don't personally mind 300 hour games but the way AC and most other games present them is exhausting. I don't want my map full of shit to do. I want to get the core experience, which should be the main story and after that sprinkle of stuff to do here and there which is all optional and there if enjoyed the world enough to keep going.

Why Ubi and others haven't figured this out, I have no idea. It's the best of both worlds.

Saymesies,

Yeah, would much prefer depth of content to breadth. I love exploring and finding things as much as the next completioninst, but if it is just filler, the world feels hollow. Last handful of AC games have been massive maps with very little uniqueness outside the main story. Also hate auto generated fetch quests and mobile game stores they shove in.

tox_solid,
@tox_solid@lemmy.world avatar

I remember beating The Bouncer in about an hour and 10 minutes when I was a kid. Not much game to play but I had a lot of fun doing it.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

Case in point, just compare Mass Effect 1 (about 30 hours) to Mass Effect Andromeda (well over 100 hours).

ZombieBait,

Ghostwire Tokyo felt like a pretty good length for an open world game. There were a bunch of relatively short side quests, and the usual collectibles but the whole thing was 100% complete in under 30 hours. Thier rougelike DLC add-on might push it over that, but it's basically a whole separate game.

Damage,

I had to force myself to finish Andromeda

CIWS-30,

Same, and I didn't even finish Inquisition. Bioware didn't need open world filler injected in its narrative based games and worlds, and those forced elements are what killed them off for a while. Then there was the disaster that was Anthem, which also had big, shallow open world and a craptacular mission design that forced you to a full stop to grind dumb boring shit (at which point I quit) before continuing the not terrible, but barely adequate campaign that I would've probably managed to finish if not for that grind gate.

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

When BioWare announced they had made each planet on Andromeda bigger than the largest area in Inquisition, my stomach sank, because Inquisition had already been pushing it with the bloat.

I watched a review by this YouTuber who hated Andromeda but decided to give it another shot on a whim, only this time to just do the main and loyalty missions, and he said it was like night and day and the game actually was good and the story felt better and like there were actual stakes. All that more for the sake of more hurt the game more than a lot of folks realize.

iforgotmyinstance, do gaming w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

Does anyone still follow this franchise? It’s pumped so many half-assed sequels into the market that the brand has to be suffering.

harmonea,
@harmonea@kbin.social avatar

The brand suffers because people care about it. If no one cared, the brand would just wither and die, forgotten, like so many others have. This seems obvious enough that I really have to wonder, did you ask this question because you're actually surprised, or because you want to portray some weird image of being above all this?

nlm, do gaming w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist
!deleted4210 avatar

Sounds promising!

I loved the setting of Origins but got burnt out doing all the tedious bits they sprinkled all over the maps that didn’t contribute to the story in ant way and was mostly the same over and over again.

And yes, I know I could skip stuff but I wanted to experience the full hame too… so… yeah.

It definitely could’ve been trimmed down a bit.

CIWS-30, do gaming w Assassin's Creed Mirage will take 25-30 hours to complete – and that's if you're a completionist

Finally! I haven't played an Assassin's Creed game for Years because they were too long, repetitive, and filled with boring timesinks. And I used to be a huge AC fanboy back in the day. Starting from 1, I played each release every year until Revelations + 3 burned me out. Took me years to recover enough to play AC 4 and Rogue. Never even touched Unity, barely tried Syndicate (and only because I got it for free), and all the new ultra-long ones starting with Origins I didn't even bother starting, except for Valhalla during a free play weekend on Steam. Valhalla annoyed me enough over that weekend that I just didn't bother buying.

I've been waiting for a "back to basics" game like Mirage for a while now, and the fact that it has callbacks to the gameplay and setting of AC 1 is a big plus for me. I'll wait for reviews, but it's the most interested I've been in an AC game for a long time.

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