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Pxtl, do games w Final Fantasy 7: Ever Crisis turns Square Enix's best into an avalanche of money-grabbing tactics
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

Remember when TV had commercials instead of video games?

SickDisturbence, do games w Final Fantasy 7: Ever Crisis turns Square Enix's best into an avalanche of money-grabbing tactics

Yeah I tried playing it this weekend. The very beginning was amazing and nostalgic, but as soon as I finished the opening mission I was bombarded with all the deals and packs and unlocks… I went from excited to feeling sick to my stomach over the amount of bait I had to dismiss before I even saw the main mobile landing page for the first time. I haven’t opened it since.

wahming, do games w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet

Seriously, it’s a product for sale. Don’t like the price, vote with your wallet and don’t buy it. What’s with the manufactured outrage for every topic nowadays

elbarto777,

I don’t like how many posts cater to outrage lately, true.

But I don’t think this one is manufactured.

wahming,

Yeah, manufactured might have been the wrong word. Pointless? Uncalled for?

elbarto777, (edited )

But why would it be pointless or uncalled for? $70 for a rather old game?

Edit: I’ve been schooled. Is a brand new game with a confusing name. Still $70 for a console game; yikes.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Its not an old game, MK1 is the latest release. The people getting served this are running it on hardware that was weak last generation. At a certain point you simply cannot push these devices any further. MK1 for Switch was never going to look beautiful, the current gen Switch can’t do it. I’m okay with devs making their games available, I mean at least you can play it. Theres a reason a Switch 2 is in the works.

Satelllliiiiiiiteeee,
@Satelllliiiiiiiteeee@kbin.social avatar

This is a brand new game, they just gave it a confusing name

wahming,

Because you have the full choice to not buy and support it, if you think the price is unreasonable. It’s not a vital need, and nobody’s forcing customers to buy it. Housing, food, healthcare, we don’t have a choice. Buy or die. A video game? Not so much. The issue is not game publishers overcharging, it’s players who moan and whine… AND THEN BUY IT ANYWAY, thus ensuring the publishers will continue the practice

elbarto777,

Sure, but are we talking about people who buy the game, or people in general bashing at the price? They’re not necessarily the same group.

It’s like when Apple announced that $1000 monitor stand. It was laughable. Even if I won’t buy one, I bashed it to no end, because it was fun.

Vamanos,

Others have already replied with this info but I’m just spelling it out for anyone who is not familiar like me:

They fucking named the brand new game mk1. Is it a remaster? No. It’s not a remaster. Is it a recreation of mk1? No. It’s an alternate timeline game given the worst name in the history of naming things. It’s genuinely a brand new game.

elbarto777,

Holy shit. They really fucked up with that name.

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

I mean… we live in the timeline where we had the Xbox One being the third Xbox, and Battlefield 1 not being the first Battlefield.

I would not be surprised if we start seeing “[Game Title] One” for rebooted games.

Vamanos,

Sometimes I wish I could have a job where companies just say “hey should we make this decision” and I tell them “that’s so fucking stupid no one will actually like that” and get paid well for it.

That’s my dream.

geosoco,

I've had some similar roles before, but more often than not companies just do it anyway, even if you have a lot of data to the contrary. It's stupidly easy for someone in management to push some of this through despite the data, choose an arbitrary metric to define their success, get their bonus, and then bail for another company. Meanwhile, folks left at the company have to then try and fix all of the nonsense. It blows that we value failing forward. I've seen a few decent products just tanked this way.

VonCesaw,

That’s standard price for new games from EA, greater Microsoft (id, Bethesda, Obsidian, 343, etc), SqEnix, and WB

elbarto777, (edited )

Which is bullshit. It reminds me of when web email services offered ridiculously small inbox sizes, such as 25MB or 50MB. Then in came Google and offered 1GB, and all of a sudden all those companies found the way to match Google’s offering.

But I guess if people are willing to pay for those ridiculous prices, and deal with in-game payments… shrug.

Lojcs,

I don’t think it’s “outrage”. It’s people making fun of the port on x and the website capitalizing on that to publish a story

wahming,

They’re calling it robbery and disrespectful. I’m not seeing where the joke is

Lojcs,

Crying at the Switch version of Mortal Kombat 1, Why didn’t they just wait for the next gen switch console, the fact it costs 70$ is robbery💀💀💀

I think it’s clear that they’re not literally calling it a robbery, they’re just expressing their discontent in a twitter way.

BeardedGingerWonder,

People are complaining because they don’t like a thing, that’s fine. Same as you’re complaining in this post. Call companies out on their bullshit. Also don’t buy bullshit, that’s a good point too.

wahming,

Because it doesn’t qualify as bullshit. Company made a product, set a price. Either you find it worth the price or not, but either way what’s the reason to kick up a fuss over an optional good

FooBarrington,

Company also sold pre-orders for a product, which means people can’t really decide whether the product is exactly what they want until they get it. At which point they complain, because they trusted the company not to sell a sub-par product. What is your issue?

wahming,

? The complaint right now is about the price, not the quality of the product. Are you saying they didn’t know the price when they preordered it?

On a side note, preorders are a scam. If you’re dumb enough to preorder a game in unlimited supply, that’s on you.

FooBarrington,

My guy, the complaint is about the price because of the quality. Or, as you are asking, are you saying people didn’t know the price when they bought it?

On a side note, preorders are a scam. If you’re dumb enough to preorder a game in unlimited supply, that’s on you.

I agree that pre-orders are a scam, but it’s shitty to say “you knew what you bought!” when some people literally couldn’t.

wahming,

I’m not saying they knew what they bought, I’m saying it’s on them for choosing to buy before they knew what they were buying. Seriously, people need to take responsibility for their choices already.

FooBarrington,

Earlier you said:

Company made a product, set a price. Either you find it worth the price or not, but either way what’s the reason to kick up a fuss over an optional good

Now you’re saying it’s on people who pre-order. Can’t we stop pushing this on the consumer and start demanding better from the manufacturers? Why can they sell shitty products, instead of being held to higher standards?

wahming,

In this particular case, it’s not on the publisher. The switch is an old console, and there’s only so much they can do with the hardware. It’s not a particularly big surprise to anybody familiar with the technology.

Why SHOULDN’T we hold consumers to task for their bad decisions? They are arguably making things worse for the rest of us, by repeatedly rewarding bad behaviour from companies. There is no good reason for them to preorder, they just had to be the first instead of waiting a day for reviews to appear. Well, if you’re going to be impatient, guess what? The risk is on you.

FooBarrington,

In this particular case, it’s not on the publisher. The switch is an old console, and there’s only so much they can do with the hardware. It’s not a particularly big surprise to anybody familiar with the technology.

Then they should be open about this before and during release.

Why SHOULDN’T we hold consumers to task for their bad decisions?

Because it doesn’t work. One side of the equation spends lots of money to make sure as many consumers as possible make bad decisions, because it makes them even more money. You can’t fix this only by changing the other side.

wahming,

I didn’t suggest fixing it. I said the consumers consciously made a bad decision, and they should take responsibility for it. I’m tired of grown ups acting like kids.

FooBarrington,

And by pushing the responsibility onto the consumer, all you do is support the shitty business practices of the manufacturer.

Jamie, do games w Unity reportedly considering cap on hugely controversial per-install fees
@Jamie@jamie.moe avatar

I had a feeling something like this was gonna come. It’s an age old trick.

Do something that makes people mad and gets attention.

Let it stew for a few days while you’re “considering” things.

Come out and say you made a mistake and the initial plan was misguided, present the thing you were actually planning to do instead.

Brag about how much you “care about feedback” while still doing what you want

Chariotwheel,

It doesn't work the same here as with B2C products. Excluding hobby developers who wouldn't been hit either way. most people paying for Unity are trying to make a living and a company eradically throwing the pricing model around is not a good look when there are altrnatives around.

People can and will go to alternatives for new projects. Unreal, if you want a marketplace and impressive 3D and Godot if you want FOSS. Not to mention the otber game engines.

It's about money here, in some cades not little amount of money.

gaael, do gaming w SAG-AFTRA votes unanimously to expand its strike to include the games industry

I never wondered about the conditions of videogames workers, but I’m really happy that they get better thanks to this movement !

Bipta,

No guarantee anything gets better yet.

gregorum,

And there’s no reason to think it will

theangriestbird,

It’s 10x worse than whatever you’re imagining.

MJBrune,

It all depends on where you work and what lines you personally draw in the sand. Some novice game developers will not draw a line in the sand near release and management will work them to death. Stress causality is the term for when people don’t quit, don’t say anything, and just stop showing up for work. If you work at a studio where crunch is normalized then usually there is a stress causality normalization too.

CurlyWurlies4All,
@CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net avatar

Oh I can provide context with an entertaining and informative video!

youtu.be/DN-Hv3pnVz0?si=y11gki97RBZ5paQa

Shout out to Matt McMuscles who makes these. What a champ.

gaael,

Thanks for sharing ! Looks like the usual “small white male feeling powerful because he’s the boss” bullshit more than a problem specific to the gaming industry.

Anyway, unionizing should protect them better from these kind of abuse, which is good :)

Hiccup, do games w Final Fantasy 7: Ever Crisis turns Square Enix's best into an avalanche of money-grabbing tactics

Square Enix is no longer square enix. They need to take a hard look in the mirror, like capcom, to see who they truly are or will see the collapse of the company. I fully expect either a Sony or Nintendo swooping in to buy them/ bail them out.

They keep fucking up and putting out/ producing garbage. I’m still pissed about how they ruined the remake.

MentalEdge, (edited ) do games w Final Fantasy 7: Ever Crisis turns Square Enix's best into an avalanche of money-grabbing tactics
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

I weep for all the talented people working under squenix. They seem determined to squeeze blood from a rock, shattering it into a thousand tiny shards, few of which are worth paying for anymore.

mindbleach, do games w Final Fantasy 7: Ever Crisis turns Square Enix's best into an avalanche of money-grabbing tactics

Only legislation will fix this.

DharkStare, do games w Leaked Bethesda roadmap reveals unannounced releases including Dishonored 3

I’m really happy to hear about Dishonored 3. It’s one of my favorite series and I replay it regularly.

klingelstreich, do games w New Xbox controller with swappable battery spotted in huge Microsoft leak
@klingelstreich@feddit.de avatar

I love that the controller is using aa batteries that I can charge and swap at low cost and use for other devices.

Ramenator, do games w Final Fantasy 7: Ever Crisis turns Square Enix's best into an avalanche of money-grabbing tactics

Great, they put every single thing from the playbook of shitty mobile games in there

Sanctus, do games w Spider-Man 2 will let you bump into the other Spider-Man
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

It’d be pretty cool co-op too.

_haha_oh_wow_, do gaming w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Haven’t really touched my Switch since I bought a Steam Deck: Superior in every way.

teamevil, do games w $70 Mortal Kombat 1 Switch version called "robbery" as graphical comparisons flood the internet

The GTA ports where a piece of shit, why would this be different…and I’m saying that as a person who uses his switch much more than my series x.

dan1101, (edited ) do games w Grand Theft Auto 5 turns 10 years old

I need to finish that some day. I loved it at first, in fact I still love the gameplay and map. But the storylines just didn’t grab me. Michael is a dick with an asshole family, Franklin is a good dude but a dumbass, and Trevor well anyone who does business with him should not expect good results.

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