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averyminya, do gaming w What happened to gaming?

You may as well have typed this in 2009 or 2015.

It used to be that people argued that it’s worth getting the new game console because “better graphics”. The console wars hasn’t gone anywhere, it’s just expanded.

In any case, in regards to just installing a game and playing it, no, not really. When I was playing games in college in 2012 it was still a time when you would open a game and go to the settings menu to adjust settings.

Sometimes it was just turning off motion blur, but there was always settings to change to try to reach a stable 60FPS.

Nothing changed, it just expanded. Now instead of 60FPS it’s a variable 60-240FPS. Instead of just 720p-1080p resolution, unless it’s portable, it’s 1080p minimum otherwise variable up to 4k. Instead of “maxing out” we now have raytracing which pushes software further than our hardware is capable.

These aren’t bad things, they’re just now 1) slightly marketed, 2) more well known in the social sphere. There isn’t anything stopping you from opening up the game and going right away, and there’s nothing stopping other people from wondering about frame timings and other technical details.

Sure, focusing on the little things like that can take away from the wider experience, but people pursue things for different reasons. When I got Cyberpunk 2077 I knew that there were issues under the hood, but my experience with the game at launch was also pretty much perfect because I was focused on different things. I personally don’t think a dip here and there is worth fretting over, but some people it ruins the game for them. Other people just like knowing that they’re taking full advantage of their hardware, hence figuring out the utilization of their components.

There’s one last aspect not mentioned. Architectures. 10 years ago games would just boot up and run… But what about games from 10 years before then? Most players not on consoles were having to do weird CPU timing shenanigans to be able to boot up a game from (now 20) years ago. We’re in the same boat now with emulation, which while emulation is faring better, X360/PS3 generation games that had PC ports are starting to have issues on modern Windows. Even just 5 or 6 years ago games like Sleeping Dogs wouldn’t play nice on modern PC’s, so there’s a whole extra aspect of tinkering on PC that hasn’t even been touched on.

All this to say, we are in the same boat we’ve always been in. The only difference is that social media now has more knowledge about these aspects of gaming so it’s being focused on more.

The one thing I do agree with though is that this is all part of software development. Making users need better hardware, intentional or not, is pretty crazy. The fact that consoles themselves now have Quality vs Performance modes is also crazy. But, I will never say no to more options. I actually think it’s wrong that the console version of games often are missing settings adjustments, when the PC counterpart has full control. I understand when it’s to keep performance at an acceptable level, but it can be annoying.

Excrubulent,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

Always turn off motion blur and DoF if you can.

odium, do gaming w What happened to gaming?

Balatro is nominated for game of the year. Some other games from the past year you could check out: animal well, nine sols.

SnotFlickerman,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’ve never had Balatro crash or do anything weird on me, either.

Don’t you miss the days when you just installed the game and just played it?

I don’t miss them because they’re still here!

rtc,

I don’t miss them because they’re still here!

Exactly

lastunusedusername2, do games w What are some great games that require you to bust out a notebook and pen?

The Witness

Lots of diagrams

FurtiveFugitive,

This. So many sketches and diagrams the month I played through this one.

silverchase,
@silverchase@sh.itjust.works avatar

I left my computer to go out with friends to have wings. I was thinking about the puzzle I left behind on the trip there. I was trying to draw the patterns on my phone while we waited. This game gets into your head.

Object,

I remember opening Paint to solve that incremental puzzle in the mountain only to realise there’s multiple symbols in the same space

reboot6675,

Agree, I filled like half notebook with this game

Cowbee, (edited ) do pcgaming w Budget gaming: steam deck or build a cheap gaming PC?
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

You are sacrificing power for mobility and playability with the Steam Deck. I own both a Steam Deck and a gaming PC, and I use each for different games. These days, modern AAA gaming often can’t run on Steam Deck well, including some hits like Baldurs Gate 3 (in the 3rd Act, the rest is fine). However, 75% of my overall gaming time is on the Deck these days. The ability to turn it on and just start playing on the couch or in bed is fantastic, and the support for different control schema like gyro and touchpads make it incredibly playable.

A modest PC is going to push better graphics and higher refresh rates, and will also make some games actually playable, but this becomes a decent sacrifice in mobility and convenience.

If mobility is merely a bonus and your deck would be docked the vast majority of the time, I’d go PC, but I suggest seriously considering the convenience of portable play even within your home. The OLED screen is wonderful for years-old AAA games that go for 2 dollars on Sale, indies, and more. I’m absolutely having a blast with Crosscode and intend on moving over to Another Crab’s Treasure and Nine Sols next.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

I honestly haven’t considered using the steam deck in my house outside of the dock. Playing on the couch is definitely an enticing idea. The prospect of poor AAA support isn’t a huge deal. Baldurs gate 3, the new dragon age, the new Warhammer game (if that’s considered AAA), helldivers, and the new god of war games are the only recent titles that have jumped out at me. I’ve really wanted to get more into indie games, theres so many that seem interesting and innovative, and with the pace of steam deck adoption, I feel like I wouldn’t be missing out on much with it. I’m still 50/50 on the decision. Gaming around the house has definitely given me something more to consider though!

Cowbee,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

The Steam Deck is how I prefer to play the majority of indies, so if that’s your goal, it’s great. Watch performance videos though of games you are interested in.

TropicalDingdong,

I played through all of BG3 with no issues. It was a pleasure. The only real graphics hiccup I had was when i stacked barrel after barrel of smoke powder in Gortash’s throne room and one shotted him.

dual_sport_dork, do games w Making peace with liking very few games?
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think you’re alone in this. I’m kind of becoming the same way, and I figure it’s because as you become older you become wiser, specifically wiser to the way that so many modern games are bullshit now.

Nowadays it seems like almost everything is just a cynical cash grab. And with a lifetime of experience, you know how to spot that bullshit. Oh look, it has always online components. And an in game store. And season content. And gatcha mechanics. And grind. Not only just regular old grind, you know, where you need to level up and be at least be this tall to beat the beef gate (which always has the tantalizing possibility of being able circumvent it by cheesing it or being very clever). No, it’s just grind with no mechanical justification. You must fill the bar before you’re allowed to access this content. Would you like to make a microtransaction to fill the bar faster?

Fuck that, and count me out.

The current fascination is on delivering games as a “service,” and that just rubs me the wrong way. Everything is transient, nothing is permanent, and everyone is making a desperate grab for recurring revenue over creating a compelling experience or indeed anything anyone would ever want to go back to and play again. It’s all just crap designed to feed into people’s sunk cost brains, and it feels like damn near every major title wants to be your full time job.

I have even started eschewing Nintendo titles and some modern indie stuff specifically because they display a complete and utter disrespect for not only the player’s intelligence, but also their time.

DrumbeatF, (edited ) do games w Are there games with real collision detection?
@DrumbeatF@sopuli.xyz avatar

Exanima, it’s mostly a testing ground for a game the devs want to make around this concept. It’s a good time, and also exactly what I think you’re looking for.
Not to bury the lede, it is a fairly full featured action game, but there’s not really a story element at this stage.
store.steampowered.com/app/362490/Exanima/

lemba,

Wow, this looks like fun. Thx for the tip

ArtikBanana,

I also had Exanima in mind.
The story is actually already there, it’s just easy to miss :)
Although I’m guessing once they finish up work on the AI, roles and dialogue system soon, there’ll be more of it.

DrumbeatF,
@DrumbeatF@sopuli.xyz avatar

True, somewhat of a “look for the story and you’ll find it” dark souls vibe. I got the impression from dev logs that the end goal is a more traditional RPG story

ArtikBanana,

I believe that’s more of a goal for Sui Generis. Which is the game they initially begun working on (and still are).
They do have some dialogue with Derrin that gives us some lore, so I’m guessing we’ll get more of that.

TimeSquirrel, do games w Are there games with real collision detection?
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Kerbal Space Program. But that's not "action", more like simulation, and, the entire game revolves around accurate, realistic physics, since it models actual space travel. So accurate to the point where you can build and test crazy real world concepts like the machine from that company that wants to put stuff into orbit by spinning it and then flinging it up through the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds.

MrPoopyButthole,

I love KSP but things can clip into each other in the game

msage, do games w Got 20 euro, what game/games to get on steam autumn sale?

Terraria

passiveaggressivesonar, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?

Someone already mentioned Disco Elysium, system shock 2 and BioShock are also very good

Drusenija, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?

Will second Doki Doki Literature Club. Undertale should also be on this list I feel.

RightHandOfIkaros, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?
  • Snatcher
  • Policenauts
  • King’s Field (any of them, even Pilot Style)
  • Halo 1-3 + ODST and Reach
  • Yakuza 0
  • Silent Hill 2 (the original, Enhanced Edition for PC is still the best way to experience SH2)
  • Life is Strange (only the original game, completely ignore the fanbase, theyre all toxic)
  • Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (too bad BioWare doesnt have a single good or competent writer anymore)
  • NieR, both Gestalt and Automata
  • Rule of Rose
  • Dark Souls 1-3
  • Elden Ring
  • Kuon
  • Armored Core (all of them, but the controls are hard to deal with before Nexus)
  • Steel Battalion (only if you can find and afford the controller, otherwise dont bother)
ABCDE,

I’m honestly not sure this applies to any of those games.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

The Halo 1 and KOTOR twists do hit pretty hard if you somehow haven’t been spoiled. KOTOR has one of my favorite reveal sequences ever with showing you how much foreshadowing you missed, and Halo’s twist turns the game on its head.

Hadriscus,

yea and Halo Reach hits pretty hard if you don’t know what to expect too

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

However, Reach’s tagline was, “From the beginning, you know the end,” so there was an expectation that everyone playing would know how it was going to pan out.

ABCDE,

You can only stuff about those games without having the twist or whatever spoiled. What Halo twist was it? I’ve finished it a few times and don’t remember really. It was all about how open it was and the action, plus the multiplayer.

dragonfucker,

The twist is that >! Halo is a doomsday machine !<

Ashtear,

Someone hasn’t played NieR!

ABCDE,

That’s true, it’s on my list though! Waiting for a decent sale or bundle. (:

Suck_on_my_Presence, do games w What are your favorite "gotta go in blind" games?
  • SOMA
  • DUSKERS

I agree with your others

theyllneverfindmehere,
Endymion_Mallorn,
@Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org avatar

SOMA is such a kick in the nards.

nasi_goreng, do games w Guys, what did you buy during the Steam autumn sale?
@nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip avatar

Forza Horizon 4 has 80% discount and it will get delisted this December.

All DLCs are now on simple Deluxe and Ultimate edition.

Might as well grab it before gone.

Dindonmasker, (edited )
@Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works avatar

That game was great. I might pick it up…

Edit. I’m not sure what the difference is between deluxe and ultimate but for a couple more dollars i got the ultimate. Might as well while it’s still available.

CrabAndBroom,

Yeah I grabbed that too! Also Mad Max for like $3

simple,

I bought this last time it was on sale, and while the game is fun I have a word of warning for people looking to buy this to play with friends: The online is NOT stable!

It often hangs while connecting to a race and waits for the server upwards of multiple minutes. That’s bad since a race itself can be a minute or two long. Also, you can’t race against each other with AI cars, the options are either playing co-op which is piss easy or face each other alone. Races are just a bit lonely with 2 or 3 players.

Multiplayer aside, Forza is a really fun time, I just wouldn’t buy it if you’re mainly looking to play with friends.

AngryCommieKender,

Also, if it gets delisted, you will be unable to play single player or multiplayer. I found this out the hard way with Forza Motorsport 7 and Gran Turismo Sport.

I have the physical DVDs or BluRay disks for both games. Neither will work even for single player because you have to download the tracks from the server every single race. No server means no tracks.

dwindling7373, do games w Palworld announces Terraria crossover

2024 is not finished for anybody on earth, pal.

LifeCoffeeGaming, do games w What games have you put the most hours into?

Rimworld 2300 hours or so

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