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noob_dragon, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

Yeah, it is basically impossible for me to use the stock switch for anything more than an hour handheld with my hands cramping up. I ended up having to get some rubber grips with a palm bumpout in order for it to be remotely comfortable.

The steam deck is a huge upgrade in that regard. Significantly more comfortable to hold. Plus, the steam deck is capable of emulating pretty much anything on the switch full speed :). On top of all of that is barely even costs more lol.

mp3, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

N64 for me, I’ll always remember my first all-nighter playing Super Mario 64 on Christmas.

Wistful, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?
@Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

They realized that they don’t have to make good a game, they can make a bad game and just advertise the shit out of it.

SteposVenzny, do gaming w A personal argument for a benefit of gaming

“It’s okay to fail” seems like it would have been a more valuable life lesson than “it feels good to beat a really hard video game” and it concerns me that you’re so okay with the amount of trauma this entertainment product caused him.

The fact that you’re sharing this story of years of repeated meltdowns caused by a video game and calling it an example of games being beneficial is pretty surreal.

remington,
@remington@beehaw.org avatar

You have made a mountain out of a molehill. Neither of my two sons have ever experienced trauma.

Go through and read the other comments in this thread. Has anyone else raised alarm bells? The answer is no.

Please, don’t make accusations here at Beehaw. It isn’t nice.

SteposVenzny,

These are your words, quoted from your post:

One of his most recent meltdowns was so traumatic for him,

remington,
@remington@beehaw.org avatar

‘Traumatic’ just means emotionally distressing. He was disappointed. He wasn’t harmed.

SteposVenzny,

My point is that I described the same distress you’re describing using the same terminology you did. I didn’t accuse you of anything, I just strongly disagreed with your takeaway that this story describes something positive.

Daxtron2, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

It basically needs more ergonomic joycons to be usable for more than an hour in handheld mode for me. I’ve got a pair of hori split pad pros that work really well, but you lose the gyro which kind of sucks for aiming in games like zelda

sleepybisexual,

Yea. Joycons had no right being so bad, uncomfy sticks+ being comically flat = sad

Aussiemandeus,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

I can stand the gyro on the zelda games or any game.

Daxtron2,

Its a good thing you can turn it off then. I always found it made aiming the bow a lot easier

Aussiemandeus,
@Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone avatar

Yeah first thing I did

kratoz29, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

If this is some kind of question like “you can only play this in your lifetime” I’d pick up a DSi XL or closely a 3DS, I enjoy the DS library more, so it would be a downgrade doing it there, unless things have changed since the last time I checked.

The reasons are simple, it has tons of great titles and many of them have a high replayability value.

kratoz29, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

At least in Android you can install old games yet, I just installed Nimble Quest and had a blast as of recently.

amio, do gaming w Why do mobile games suck nowadays?

What do you mean, "nowadays"? Mobile games always sucked.

cordlesslamp,

I beg to differ. Angry Bird, cut the rope, where’s my water, Space RPG, FRUIT Ninja, and a whole lot more, are classic mobile games in the beginning. They’re sometimes simple, yes, but at least there’s efforts in it to try to be original.

Nowadays, it’s all Freemium p2w cash grab.

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

That you didn’t like them doesn’t mean they sucked, look along this thread and you’ll find ppl sharing titles worthwhile back then (me included), ofc, this is not GOTY material, but a game must not be a masterpiece in order to be enjoyable, which ultimately is what all games are for, to be an enjoyable hobby.

comicallycluttered, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

Wii U gamepad was a lot more comfortable for me. I’d play Windwaker or Mario Maker or 3D World or Splatoon for hours and never feel all cramped up with half-numb palms. I play Ace Attorney for an hour and it just hurts.

Plus the charging port location makes it annoying to play while charging. It makes sense for the dock, but it ruins it in handheld mode.

I’d love to just get a Steam Deck and be done with it, but Valve won’t be shipping here anytime soon and the cost of importing it along with our shitty forex rates end up with the base model hitting PS5 cost territory for me (which is also more expensive here than in most Western nations).

perishthethought, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

The challenge with this question is that not everyone has played in every console, so like, for me, I can only comment on the Atari 2600, the Wii and the XBOX 360.

From that small sample, the wii wins hands down. I loved the motion controllers a lot.

sleepybisexual,

Never played Wii but it always looked cool to me :3

perishthethought,

I think because it was so different from what came right before it: Gamecube, PS3, Xbox.

Waving that Wiimote around was a blast for everyone, gamers and non-gamers alike. Tons of hours of play in this Sports Resort, for instance.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWo6zYZx2rM

I get what @berttheduck said about long games / serious gamers but can you imagine your grandma trying to play most Switch or PS5 or other new console games now?

Berttheduck,

The Wii brought gaming to the general public in a way nothing else had. Like most modern Nintendo consoles it was under powered and gimmicky but the gimmick worked so well for people new to gaming, point at the TV or wiggle the controller as you would to do the thing in real life was a huge step to making an abstract concept make sense to people. For longer gaming sessions or more “serious” games the Wii controls were generally lacking but damn if Wii sports wasn’t good fun.

Domiku, (edited ) do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

It’s definitely not as comfortable as something like the Steam Deck, but I played so much Switch while commuting on the train since it came out. It’s been a real joy to have. It’s also WAY smaller than any of the current-gen handhelds.

What do you mean by “cart games being downloaded in full to the system?”

Telorand,

I never owned a Switch, but I would say it was instrumental in the Deck’s conception. If the popularity of the Switch had never happened, I wonder if Gabe would have taken the chance.

Nintendo cuts all kinds of corners and usually doesn’t bother competing as a “performance” console, but people generally loved that thing when it first came out. I’m sure people will have gripes about Steam Deck v1 when v2+ comes out, too.

sleepybisexual,

Its not about power, its about its horrendous controls. Its like trying to game on a comically long phone

mephiska,

Get an Odin 2. It's fantastic.

sleepybisexual,

I have a retroid pocket 4 pro. Odin 2 was out of budget.

The retroid is bloody amazing. Its a better switch than the switch itself.

narc0tic_bird,

The AYANEO AIR 1S is smaller than a regular Nintendo Switch, being closer to a Switch Lite.

sleepybisexual,

And the rp4 pro

narc0tic_bird,

Sure, but the AIR 1S is an x86 device with a 7840U, so it runs regular PC games like the Deck for example.

sleepybisexual,

Yea, 2different ideas

sleepybisexual,

So, let’s take botw, about 10 GB.

If you put the cart in, it downloads, you get hose 10 GB on the system. And you’ll also need the CSRT for DRM reasons or shit

nave,
@nave@lemmy.ca avatar

It doesn’t download the game if you have a physical copy. I just checked my switch and my physical copy of botw is using 0 mb of storage.

Instigate,

Further to this - it doesn’t download cart data to the Switch/SD card, but it does store save data, update data and DLC data on the Switch/SD card. So while BOTW may not download its whole 10Gb onto the Switch, you may end up with a few Gb in other data that’s locally stored.

Domiku,

OK - I thought this was the case, but wasn’t sure. At any rate, a microSD card is a good purchase (but that’s true for all of these handhelds).

Instigate,

Yeah, I’d almost say it’s an essential purchase. I buy a fair few online titles and I’ve found my 128Gb SD to be a bit lacking. I’m considering upgrading to a 256Gb or 512Gb but they’re still too expensive at high transfer rates.

If you have to choose between capacity and transfer rate for an SD card for a Switch, go for transfer. I had an old slow card and that was abhorrent for load times and stuttering on games that were stored there.

collapse_already, do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

The Joycons were an absolute disaster and ruined the portable experience. I got 4 of them repaired. When they inevitably broke again, I gave up and bought a pro controller. Precariously balancing the Switch on your lap or setting it on furniture so you can use a pro controller is not a handheld. Still had lots of fun with the games on it, but the experience should have been better. Nintendo has building controllers for decades, you would think they could at least begin to approach competency.

Instigate, (edited ) do gaming w Maybe hot take: as a handheld, the regular switch is an awful handheld

I recently bought an adjustable clip to clip the Switch (sans joycons) to my Pro Controller and it’s super comfy for long periods of gaming. I’ve also seen people use 3rd party joycons that are shaped more like the Pro Controller handles which seem comfy too.

You’re right, the base Switch isn’t all that comfy for long periods of play, but there are both ways around that and it can also be played docked, which I think are redeeming features.

AVincentInSpace, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?

Nintendo 3DS. Extremely hackable, not too shabby selection of games, and… I swear I must be the only person on Earth who likes the 3D feature, but I love the 3D feature

Kolanaki, do gaming w What is your favourite game console?
!deleted6508 avatar

Sega Dreamcast.

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