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Red_October, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

You don’t seem to know what a remaster is. Most importantly, it’s not a remake and the two terms are not interchangeable.

Dremor, (edited )
@Dremor@lemmy.world avatar

Remaster -> Take same assets, enhance it (better textures, better shaders, etc.), add some QoL fixes (new hardware support, etc.), but the base (and most of the time the engine) stays the same. Remake -> Take same idea, redo it (new models, new technologies, etc.). May or may not have an engine change
Reboot -> Take same base, new ideas, and redo it (new models, new technologies, etc.). May or may not have an engine change

Edit :
A remaster example : Titan Quest Anniversary Edition -> Same game, remastered textures, add large screen support, among others.
A remake example : Oblivion Remastered (ironic name) -> New engine, new textures and models, but with globally the same idea.
A reboot example : DmC: Devil May Cry (the 2013 game)

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MellowYellow13, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

It is literally not a remake, and how is it half assed? I have a low to mid range PC and the game runs smooth as hell, and it’s gorgeous.

prole,

What gfx setting are you using?

HotCoffee,

Tried to run it on Wine Lutris and the open world ran like shit.

Gamers is it time to retire the 2060?

Rob1992,

Try running it on an operating system that the game is native to and not one that doesn’t properly support nvidia

HotCoffee,

Asking someone to switch to Windows or mac on Lemmy. Feeling bold today sir? Maybe devs should just optimize their games

DeathsEmbrace,

You get neither and company’s get money to keep neglecting both of your wants.

MellowYellow13,

Mine runs smooth as fuck.

mememuseum,

The 2060 is a 7 year old entry level card.

Have you tried the config tweak to disable Lumen?

www.nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/183

This one helps with lower VRAM apparently:

www.nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/399

HotCoffee,

I tried the Ultimate Engine Tweaks but that didnt’t improve much. Will try these too.

Yeah that’s what I thought. Will probaly have to upgrade to a better AMD card soon.

tischbier, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

Morrowind was my first Elderscrolls game. I loved morrowind and I would buy an remaster of it.

Oblivion came out when I was an adult. I sunk thousands of hours into it when it came out. It was my favorite game by far at that time.

Skyrim I didn’t enjoy. It was fine, I guess. But by the time Skyrim came around I started to see Bethesda change. Fallout 4 and then Fallout 76 sealed the deal for me turning from a Bethesda fanboy to a hater.

Overall, I do not believe Bethesda will ever put out another new original game that is polished or quality. Bethesda rips off their biggest supporters and lies to their customers.

That being said. I’m very happy with this remake. Because it’s been 20 years since I first played, I genuinely only remember a few strong moments. All the minor quests and even the main story I barely remember the details of. So, it’s nice to revisit the game as a more mature adult. I think they did a fantastic job keeping the feel the same but it looks great considering.

Can’t run it on my LegionGo that’s my only complaint. I’m happy with having bought the remastered version of Oblivion because I’m sure as hell never buying a new original game from Bethesda ever again. Not unless they do an about face.

zipzoopaboop,

How did you find thousands of hours to blow on it as an adult? Teach me your ways

thezeesystem, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games

Wasn’t there a couple of modders who was making the older elder scrolls game into the Skyrim engine? Wouldn’t it be easier on Bethesda to just hire them and other talented modders to do it?

zipzoopaboop,

They sent the modders complimentary copies of the remaster

hollerpixie, (edited ) do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)
@hollerpixie@lemm.ee avatar

I just went through this tree about a week ago. Downloaded the app for iOS to try it and would say it wasn’t ready for mainstream. It looks very similar to discord but it just consistently would crash or send me back to the website in order to get anything done. Even the main channel for Revolt would hang and not load properly. That and iOS is on TestFlight… not gonna work well for non tech enthusiasts who know how about it. That

I have a small server on Discord and would love to move it. But the people on it aren’t super tech savvy and the replacement will need to work. Plus, I have less desire to go from one centralized service to another, especially when the backup doesn’t work well. Wish Element would get it together with the phone app and make spaces appear as they do on the computer. That and stable call/video channels.

It would be nice to see a capable app built on matrix platform. Or just another capable platform that has a well working app. Just my two cents.

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

SchildiChat Next is a mini-fork of Element X with proper spaces support (and some other nice UI additions).

I say mini-fork as it’s basically just EleX with some UI patches - so it follows EleX actively.

LordKitsuna,

Aaaaand this touches on the problem with matrix in general, no standard is properly followed, way too many forks with feature support all over the place

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

There’s only one standard, it has no forks. The discussion is about a filtering feature.

A lot of people don’t seem to respect spaces and communities - from my perspective it looks like the devs are currently pivoting to make the official client look and act more like Telegram/Signal/WhatsApp than Discord/IRC.

Your issue is that the dev team of EleX not prioritizing a feature you want.

If anything, this is a strength of an open source ecosystem: someone who agrees with you was able to, months ago, setup a fork that appeals to your work flow.

Try that with Discord, next time!

LordKitsuna,

There is a single standard with no forks, I said not a single one followed. I run my own Matrix Home Server and use it frequently, there are a lot of different clients and there are a good number of them that do run their own features that are not exactly in Spec because one does not yet exist in the official spec. Stickers used to be a good example of that I remember when there were like three different clients Each of which implemented them in a different weird way until the spec finally landed on an implementation.

And even within this back there are some basic features not supported on certain clients and other such problems. I’m just saying it’s not an alternative to Discord and it will never be mainstream because it’s too confusing and frustrating from the perspective of a standard user.

Same concept that made bluesky get popular over mastodon, trying to find anything on Mastodon of interest is a chore because there’s no real Central spot to do everything the very nature of it is that it’s scattered to the winds, there’s also multiple apps available for Mobile on Mastodon Each of which have different layouts, different features, and normal people that just want to be able to find their topic of Interest can’t be bothered to deal with that

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

Yeah, all good points - especially the stuff relating to stickers (also, custom emojis).

Still, I’m hoping element gets their shit together and improves the default element apps (also brings Web/Desktop up to par with Mobile).

thorhop, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)

Saying that the client is FOSS, but the server is proprietary, I like saying you have a chastity belt - with a ventilation hole in the back.

You finna get effed in the a.

Yokozuna, do games w Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games
@Yokozuna@lemmy.world avatar

If anything this has raised my bar for TES 6. I didn’t play 4 just as you did and sunk an ungodly amount of time into 5. I also played fallout 3 at the time of launch so I feel like I’m fairly versed in Bethesdas formula.

The progress from 4 to 5 is obvious. They put a lot of love into making Skyrim better than its predecessor in tons of ways. With the absolute flop of Starfield, they’re putting all their chips into TES 6 and they know it. They’re going to stick to the core gameplay that everyone expects, but how they expand and improve upon it is really what will make or break them. If they get the story telling down, it’s all up to the mechanics of the game and design of the world.

My bar has absolutely raised by them putting this remaster out.

BreakerSwitch,

I don’t think I agree on them going all in for TES6, I think oblivion and the upcoming fallout 3 remake (confirmed by court docs ages ago) are probably going to lean into monetized mods, just like skyrim has been for the last decade. Skyrim’s creation club made it a pseudo live service game, where they can maintain bethesdas tiny team size (Relative to most AAA devs) and still get ongoing payout for a decade or more, letting players generate new content to buy into. Optimistically this means they’ll have plenty of funding for TES6 to hire some decent writing staff and put together something great that’s presumably been at least thought about the last 14 years since Skyrim, but it might just be going into Microsoft’s coffers.

gamesieve, (edited ) do games w Steam Deck / Gaming News #12

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for promoting gamesieve! I suck at marketing, so it’s really gratifying to see that I’ve apparently built something worthwhile enough that suddenly a complete stranger is doing my job for me, there. :)

(Although… is it deliberate you didn’t actually link to the site?)

Also, ooh, I didn’t know Islets yet! That looks worth investigating further. Thanks!

PerfectDark, (edited )
@PerfectDark@lemmy.world avatar

Oh my gosh it was not deliberate! So sorry for forgetting a link, that was terrible of me. I’ve edited the site in!

Also, thanks for your work! I love that people like you are so dedicated to making things easier for people - and it is a lovely project!

pycorax, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)

If Discord is going to be abandoned by people, I wish we’d go back to proper forums that’s much more accessible and searchable. Continuing down this road is just going to lead to the continued burying of useful information behind these services.

vividspecter,

I think there’s room for both, as in the old days there was typically an IRC channel along side forums that was typically a secondary channel (but not always).

But yeah, forums would be ideal, preferably with federation support so there is no need to make an account with every single one.

PassingThrough,

Well, you see IRC and forums went together because they filled two different needs and we understood that back in the day.

IRC was for chatting, short, quick real time communication that would be lost to the ether as soon as you signed off, unless you had a bouncer or log bot.

Forums were for long information, be that long posts or posts that needed to endure for a long time. Sure you’d get some one liner responses to those posts, but forums were not at all instant like IRC. Though the information did stay much longer, and was much more searchable and organized.

Discord has spoiled us, being quick and chatty while also allowing for longer posts and being searchable. At least within the Discord client. Shoot they even added those “forum” channels to replicate the old forum feel. But real time.

acosmichippo,
@acosmichippo@lemmy.world avatar

i wouldn’t say discord “spoiled” us by trying to reinvent forums, i’d say it unnecessarily blurred the lines. classic case of feature creep.

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Forums are just not great for real-time interaction like discord chat is, not to mention the integration of voice chat, video streaming, etc is just too convenient to give up without replacing it with something similar. I too wish discord/whatever replacement gets attention was more searchable and kept stuff long-term, but… if you want to post info that lasts, post it on lemme and link it on discord or whatever.

Hyphlosion, (edited )

True, but I can’t help having nostalgia for ye olde forum days.

Edit: Not sure why I keep being downvoted. I never said forums would replace anything. I was merely acknowledging my nostalgia for old forum boards from a now bygone era. Didn’t realize having fond memories of a time period on the Internet was a bad thing. Jesus.

eronth,

Reasonable, but you’d be fooling yourself to act as if forums will meaningfully replace Discord for most users.

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

Fair enough.

I kinda don’t though. I quite enjoy real-time chat and voice and video with friends. It’s not like forums don’t exist at all anymore tho - you’re on one right now. I get my forum experience from places like reddit or lemmy, and I use them for very different things, so I’m glad both exist.

Pika,
@Pika@sh.itjust.works avatar

discord is not a forum (even if they want it to be with the forum channels), its never been a good location to store information. That being said, its amazing for real time communication unlike forums. I hate that devs use it for FAQ and bug forms and stuff. I stopped reporting bugs if it requires me to join a discord.

Korhaka,

Discord is more of a chat room than a forum though, lemmy is a federated alternative to forums.

SW42,

Amen! I remember the good old days of speciality community forums based on VB or even phpBB or in some cases Woltlab. I miss the simpler times.

criss_cross,

I think we just need to split roles again.

Discord did there best to be an all in one solution and we just need a return to real time chat and voice along with asynchronous communication like forums

mic_check_one_two,

We need both for different purposes. Discord is amazing for voice, video, and IM chatting. All things that happen in real-time. But forums are intended for a vastly different use case. Forums are play-by-post. They’re asynchronous. They’re meant for responding at your earliest convenience, not for talking to someone right now. The fact that so many people began using Discord as a forum replacement is a travesty, because Discord is a fucking atrocious medium for forums… Not due to any fault of Discord’s, but because they’re completely different use cases.

randomblock1,

You’re on a forum right now, no? I think a lot of Discords have accompanying Reddits and vice versa, hopefully they start using Lemmy. But forums are still popular. Just not Ye Olde BBS

pycorax,

Not nearly enough of them. Too many frameworks or libraries have their QnAs on Discord instead of a dedicated forum.

lazorne, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)

For the record RetroDECK also got Matrix instance as well. But Revolt have so far been more active then Matrix (even tho we had that one for a long time).

But I do agree with that Discord is not a replacement for forums. You should not use Discord as your primary information hub.

For us our own wiki is the master of information. If something relevant is said in Revolt / Discord / Matrix we will add it to the wiki, people should not need to register various accounts to access the information.

Github is also where we handle “real” issues, while Discord / Matrix / Revolt is helpful for community members helping other with minor issues or general banter.

One reason why forums died out was the need for direct engagement and a sense of active community belonging, that they simply did not offer.

We also did not create all of these spaces from the beginning. Some community members did it, like the subreddit. Then you have a choice either you create it and own it, or a fan will.

Prandom_returns, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)

I’m failing to find any info on how they are funding the servers in their website.

LordKitsuna,

Well, once the service becomes large and popular we could try to find people interested in investing into the platform, then we just need to make sure it stays interesting to more and more investors over time. Should be sustainable, sounds oddly familiar tho but i definitely just made it up rn on my own

scrubbles, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)
!deleted6348 avatar

Just switched my friend group over to Matrix. Honestly looked at Revolt, but no federation was a non-starter. Convincing friends to leave is hard enough, unfortunately being locked into a single server was a non-starter. It’s too bad, they have a great UI, but I think they should have left the backend to trusted protocols.

dogs0n,

Just imagine the good they could have done by being a new competent Matrix client that can do everything, but instead they are a Discord clone.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

It would have been a massive win win

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

If you like Discord’s UI, there is a new Matrix client being developed - called Commet.Chat - that is trying to look and feel like Discord.

Might be worth checking out!

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Oh that’s AMAZING! I’m going to try it out tonight!

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

I also hadn’t used it in a while - used to be very rough around the edges.

Just installed it on my phone, it’s actually pretty usable now!

x00z, do games w Reminder if you're leaving Discord for this Revolt server ( Linux + Steam Deck devs / creators)
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

Revolt to Discord is what BlueSky is to Twitter.

Just another continuation that can (and will) enshittify.

Zahille7, do games w Oblivion Remastered Impressions (and Discussion Thread)

Well, this is a discussion thread, and I found some shit I need to discuss, although not with the game itself directly, but with “fans” and other G*mers:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/7a053e56-68e1-4da5-8936-e50f85fe7aac.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/62eea6e7-3d2f-4adc-a33d-f7b12980ecd2.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9a4e6efa-d5bc-403b-82f1-08ba29271be6.jpeg

This chucklefuck is actually getting some attention and people agree with them. The human race is fucked if the average person thinks like this on a daily basis. I’m not sure what’s worse; the out in the open bigotr, or the fact that they’re apparently okay with the current administration turning the government a completely fascist regime, or let alone they think this administration is “too soft” on perceived entertainment slights.

Like why does reality have to be so shit?

dataprolet,
@dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The world is steadily running into an authoritarian, economical and climate catastrophe and bro is afraid of “woke videogames”, lmao.

Zahille7, (edited )

G*mers are so far gone I’m not sure we can save them at this point.

Edit: dude literally believes people are gonna hack into your PC and uninstall certain mods or games if it doesn’t fit with a certain worldview in a couple years. If anything, the only evidence I’ve seen for people to totally censor shit like video games (and other media) is nazis Republicans.

Asafum,

One is specifically tied to the other. These people are being manipulated into being right wing pro-authoritarian voters because of “woke” blah blah blah. It’s always their boogie man because it has been made part of their identity, it’s part of the victim complex they have and they feel like “free speech warriors” when they fight against it… It’s fucking disgusting.

icecreamtaco,
@icecreamtaco@lemmy.world avatar

This drama doesn’t deserve to be the top post here. Let those morons have their miserable lives while the rest of the world enjoys a fun video game

v4ld1z,

wtf

SplashJackson,

I don’t get it. Is Bethesda preventing people from making sexy body replacer mods for Newblivion? People have been making those since Morrowind. Is that what this guy is on about?

Zahille7,

Everyone gains collective amnesia about all the good times they had playing/modding Bethesda games whenever they’re in the news cycle for some reason. It’s kind of fascinating/frustrating.

Add in the fact that a lot of these people have regressed over the past 10 or so years to the point where they think like 12-13 year olds again, and we get this whole “anti-woke gamer” bullshit.

To be completely fair though, I had to go out of my way to find people shitting on the game for even being “woke” in the first place. I saw the type 1/type 2 body type when I was making my character, but I just figured it was a natural progression since every other game with a character creator in the last 5 years has done away with gendered body types, and Oblivion is such a classic that it might have been overlooked; sadly not. In my head though (also because duh, it’s obvious if you use your eyes) I ascribe each to male or female, and it took me like a second to get through that entire thought process.

Jakeroxs,
Honytawk,

Mods like “replace all black people” get banned from Nexus for obvious reasons.

SplashJackson,

I don’t think people were ever making mods like that. If they were, fuck 'em.

Zahille7,

You’d be surprised. There are/were mods for Marvel’s Spider-Man to replace the Pride flags flying around NYC to American flags. I’m almost positive there were some fucked up ones for the Miles Morales game too.

whodrankarnoldpalmer,

Because nobody’s punching bigots in the teeth at every opportunity.

danciestlobster,

Ok but I did lol at pulling of a complete submersion. Also, it’s a little funny that they seem to know at some level that this ideology will piss off their wives/gf (as they wrote), but still advocate doing it. I guess all their wives and gfs must be woke? Or maybe women are too woke and therefore they never had wives and gfs to begin with?

The sentiment here is obviously terrible but at least there can be a laugh at how stupid it is. I mean…its so full of typos how could you ever think this person is trustworthy

False,

That sounds like paranoid schizophrenia

Hadriscus,

All this text and I still don’t know what he’s complaining about

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I’m very confused. Maybe his favourite mod got banned or something?

Zahille7,

Maybe it was something like a word-swap mod to change “type 1/type 2” to “male/female” that got banned?

No clue. /s

ETA: which, I saw a couple posts in the steam discussions “celebrating” that Nexus put that mod back up. Like how fucking childish do you have to be to actually go out of your way to make a post like that? Saying shit like “I bet all the people who complained about it in the first place are CRYING right now!” It’s literally changing some words in a menu of a fucking video game

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

People like that are incredibly shallow. I’m probably going to get shit for this, but it also exists on both sides.

Example; Kingdom Come Deliverence 2:

Before the game’s launch it was getting pasted by certain people for “repeating the same mistakes as the first one” in regards to diversity.

Then it turned out the game has one gay romance option, and I think one briefly encountered North African merchant. Now it’s getting pasted by other types of people for being “woke.”

Goes to show that such loud-mouths get greatly effected by the smallest kinds of tokenism. So if course just changing the text in a menu is going to be such a big deal!

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