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RagingRobot, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

So can I call the payment providers of the companies I don’t like and complain about them?

fne8w2ah, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

Miserable fuckers, the whole lot of puritans…

KiWilly, do gaming w A Crusader Kings fan makes a small request

Guys hi, just looking for some support share, a Fantasy Adventure Story, for all ages and just some entertain with some storyes: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVIvQ1wsgg - maybe you are curious

hperrin, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

I get not liking a game about SA and incest, but how about just not play that game?

MITM0, (edited )
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

Reminder they do nohing about all thise fujoshi comics which has rape & incest. They like cuties too. So the goal was destroying men"s outlet for sexual pleasure.

Notice they didn’t go after onlyfans

vonxylofon,

Internet’s memory sure is short. theguardian.com/…/onlyfans-to-ban-adult-material-…

MITM0,
@MITM0@lemmy.world avatar

“They” here is CollectiveShout & they (as in Payment Processors) reversed the ban quickly (Because it affected women). Well Not in this case, this group also campaigned to deny SnoopDogg & Eminem Visas.

JackbyDev,

I thought it was obvious you meant Collective Shout.

AllNewTypeFace, do gaming w A Crusader Kings fan makes a small request
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

Also, they’d have to censor them depending on whether the characters are closely related enough to classify them as illegal porn

AmazingAwesomator, do gaming w A Crusader Kings fan makes a small request

their payment processor doesnt allow people that have sex to pay for things. denied.

RightHandOfIkaros, do gaming w Looking for a "classic" RPG with solid plot (Steam Deck)

I don’t see how you can enjoy Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest when you don’t like grinding. Both of those series are like, peak grinding JRPG.

Maybe try The Legend of Dragoon or Breath of Fire?

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

I can see how it can be confusing, let me shed some context:

  1. I’m not against grinding, though that’s not exactly what I was looking for right now;

  2. The last final fantasy I truly enjoyed was FF-X, which I bought on launch. That was more than 20 years ago;

  3. Final Fantasy games can be REALLY grindy if you want to kill the ultra bosses but not if you just want to follow the plot. You can kill everything in Final Fantasy 8 without gaining a single level (it’s actually easier that way…);

  4. My tastes in gaming have changed quite a bit over the years…

    • I loved Dark Souls 1/3 and just couldn’t enjoy Elden Ring any more;
    • I recently-ish tried Final Fantasy 6, which is widely regarded as the best, and didn’t click for me;
    • Random battles in particular became a big turnoff for me
RightHandOfIkaros,

I mean, I tried FFX and once I got to the Seymour Wedding I dropped the game because I was apparently too low level (I do absolutely zero grinding in games, I hate grinding and random battles the most from JRPGs). There was some gauntlet of multiple forced battles one after the other I think with flamethrower guards and my party was on low HP, had no healing items, and I had to save state scum just to pass it. I think I was around level 20? Maybe 30? I dont remember. I just remember the fight with the flying dragon on the ship was very difficult and the fight with Shiva (which also is not explained very well in-game to the point I had to look up what to do just to find out Shiva was added as an Aeon) was also veey difficult, both requiring save scumming.

Then the cutscene where Yuna just completely gives up on everything she believed in as a character up to that point and that was kinda the straw that broke the camels back. That scene, combined with the few cutscenes right before between the thief girl and Waka just felt absurdly out of character to me. I didnt appreciate what was going on and up to that point I wasnt loving the game either so I dropped it.

Also didnt like Blitz Ball. Played it for the tutorial and the forced tournament, but never played it outside of those forced moments.

Mostly I kept thinking how much I would have preferred if the main character was Jecht. Less annoying voice actor and better visual design than Tutus IMO. His story seemed to be way more interesting too.


I never played Breath of Fire, so I can’t say much on it. But I did play a bit of Legend of Dragoon. It seemed cool, but my save file got corrupted and I havent wanted to start a new game.

Could also try Koudelka, which combines true Survival Horror elements with strategy/tactical RPG combat.

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

Seymour battles can be very challenging but there’s always a gimmick or gear to mitigate their attacks. It’s up to the player to figure it out. The only fight I did have trouble in one of my (too many) runs was in Mount Gagazet, that one can be tough if you don’t have zombie ward or a way to inflict poison.

Unless you’re going for the Dark Aeon’s you can totally skip Blitzball. If you don’t enjoy it you’re not really losing anything. I did like the concept of Blitzball in general, at first I thought it was fun. However, the matches become brain-dead easy really fast and each match lasts 10+ minutes, which is wayyy too long. It’s a huge time sink and the rewards are absurdly bad for the invested time (An ether, seriously? A single ether?)

I have to somewhat agree with you about Jecht. Instead of FFX-2, they should have done a FFX-0 where you follow Jecht’s pilgrimage instead. I’d play that!!!

ayyy, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

Fuck religion.

Wahots,

Don’t you just love people that can’t mind their own fucking business?

YiddishMcSquidish,

Bro for real! Like I hate any porn game, as a game. Not as a societal flaw!

So you know what I do? Same exact thing I do about gay sex. I don’t do it, I don’t think about it very often unless there’s a funny joke to be made in a tangential way, and I don’t tell other people that they have to be exact like me.

Ffs, let people do what they want if they aren’t hurting anyone.

glitchdx,

but if people are watching porn or having gay sex then they’re not making babies to sacrifice to the capitalist meat grinder.

MrScottyTay,

They want people having more babies so the US president has more supply to pick from. It’s not been as easy since he lost his best friend that helped sort it out for him.

Wahots,

They cannot help it. They literally think about it all the time, and there’s no helping people like collective shout or the crazies on the street. The unwashed ones with the “you’re going to hell for gay sex” signs.

I see the same people on the street all the time. And they think about gay sex WAY more than I do, and I’m married to a person of the same goddamn sex, lol.

Some people really need to cut loose. Generally, I’m not pro-drugs, but damn, they need some hard party drugs to reset things and help them get back to a normal life. Go to burning man, get a good job, then go hike the Appalachian trail or something, for Christ sake.

YiddishMcSquidish,

I would argue that instead of party drugs (which I assume is X, coke, alcohol, pot, and so on), I think they need a good ego death trip. I’m talking like twenty caps(or two wavy bois) or an LD50 of LSA.

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

“If you sin you’re going to hell, I have to save you from yourself!”

Wahots,

I’m so sick of this. What if we don’t want saving? Just fuck off.

I’ve got friends in both places, and I highly doubt God is gonna give you extra karma or brownie points for converting someone to a made up religion that’s like, maybe 200 years old, lol.

Go gardening. Volunteer at a big cat rescue place. Stop wasting your life preaching something that deep down, you probably don’t even believe in, but is distracting you from something else in your life that could be resolved with therapy.

Cyberflunk, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

<span style="color:#323232;">Collective shout finacials
</span><span style="color:#323232;">year: 2024
</span><span style="color:#323232;">revenue: 458043
</span><span style="color:#323232;">employee_expenses: 107000
</span><span style="color:#323232;">other_expenses: 215488
</span><span style="color:#323232;">net_surplus: 135555
</span><span style="color:#323232;">employees: 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  total_fte: 2
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  full_time: 0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  part_time: 1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  casual: 4
</span><span style="color:#323232;">volunteers: 15
</span><span style="color:#323232;">donations_and_bequests: 389800
</span><span style="color:#323232;">government_grants: 0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">commercial_income: 0
</span><span style="color:#323232;">expense_to_revenue_ratio: "70.4%"
</span><span style="color:#323232;">average_expense_per_employee: 39400
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Leadership
</span><span style="color:#323232;">- name: Melinda Tankard Reist
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  role: Founder, Movement Director
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_socials:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    - Twitter: @MelTankardReist
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    - Instagram: @collective.shout
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  salary: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">- name: Caitlin Roper
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  role: Campaigns Manager
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_socials:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    - Instagram: @collective.shout
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  salary: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">- name: Renee Chopping
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  role: Campaigns Strategy
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_socials:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    - LinkedIn
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_email_address: r******@collectiveshout.org
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  salary: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">- name: Lyn Swanson Kennedy
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  role: Campaigns Strategy
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_socials:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    - Instagram: @collective.shout
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  salary: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">- name: Coralie Alison
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  role: Movement Operations Manager
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_socials:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    - Twitter: @CoralieAlison
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    - Instagram: @collective.shout
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  public_email_address: Not publicly listed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  salary: Not publicly listed
</span>
dejected_warp_core,

This is exactly like the pearl-clutching we had back in the 1980’s around D&D and music lyrics. At least we moved the goalpost from satanic panic and thinly-veiled racism, over to “art that features sexual expression I don’t understand.”

If history is any indicator, their actions are only going to increase awareness of this kind of stuff.

ArchmageAzor, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

Can we crowdfund a big lawsuit against those responsible for this?

TeddE,
@TeddE@lemmy.world avatar

Against banks? I love the enthusiasm but this is not the way. Banks as a whole have many of the best lawyers in the game on retainer (possession is 9/10ths of the law, and this industry banks on that and make bank.) The best crowdfunding campaign in history* is 800 million. The banks would be willing to spend at least that in their own defence.

*not including investments (nor blockchain)

Plus, a progressive lawsuit in this environment? Might backfire spectacularly - right now banks are cautiously picking on ‘safe’ targets. But with a green light from the supreme court the banks could go full Nazi. Yeah - there’s nothing good I can reasonably expect here.

Rivalarrival,
@Rivalarrival@lemmy.today avatar

Does it have to be a lawsuit? Can it be a big guillotine instead?

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

Or use cryptocurrency more

TheNamlessGuy, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .
@TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world avatar

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  • JackbyDev,

    I worked a little bit for a company that worked with payment processor networks. This is my understanding (and don’t view this as a defense of them, I don’t necessarily think they’re good). There are a ton of banks. Every bank having their own POS machines would be difficult. Imagine going to one that doesn’t support your bank. So payment processors sort of provide that bridge so devices only need to know how to talk to one (or a handful) of networks and the same for the banks.

    Rekorse,

    Maybe there needs to be more competition in the payment processing space.

    ShaggySnacks,

    We can’t have competition, that’s bad for business.

    bamboo,

    Payment processors: “I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers banks don’t have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?”

    g0d0fm15ch13f,
    @g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world avatar

    And so the point arises, what do these companies provide that standardization doesn’t?

    assembly,

    The excessive fees.

    JackbyDev,

    There are standards already for the format of some of the messages. These options being subpar is how we got things like PayPal originally, so who knows.

    jpeps,

    There is this (slow moving, far off) EU project that hopes to bring a new standard. It doesn’t read like they’ve got a complete solution at all, but the principles are comforting at least!

    www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/…/index.en.html

    jumping_redditor,

    Because the laws are bs and intentionally make it harder while not being difficult to scale.

    Spoomis, do gaming w One more time!

    It would be funny if it weren’t so illegal. Wait, that makes it funnier.

    Spoomis, do gaming w I think my backlog could sustain me for a long time.

    Yeah, but Steam has Duke Nukem 3D for $2, I’m only human…

    Mordikan, do games w Does anyone else find it suspicious that there wasn't any criticism on here about Stop Killing Games until after it hit 1.4M signatures?

    I mean I was critical of it well before it hit 1.4M signatures. As it ramps up in articles about it, I'd assume an increase in negative sentiment in addition to the positive side. Its not a perfect thing and has different viewpoints, so it makes sense.

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    And what is your argument against the petition? All it says is that developers need to leave their game in some playable state for those who laid for it, with several options offered as examples

    Mordikan, (edited )

    Because as you already stated, that's all it says. There is a lot of open interpretation to what that means and not all of it refers to big publishers/devs like EA.

    For example, indie games like Objects in Space. It was Early Access and ran into technical issues which led to funding issues as they could only work so long on it. Its broken essentially. But it doesn't matter if the project was beyond their scope of skill or they ran out of money, they would be forced to pay to fix it. This means (and for other indie devs) if not certain their project will succeed, having to block sales in EU. Its potentially the most damaging not to the Ubisoft's and EA's, but to the Flat Earth Games, Bugbytes, ColePowered Games, etc. Its asking new indie developers to take on optional risk by releasing in the EU. Remember no where in the petition does it mention live service games. Only just games.

    Additionally, the points brought up in the petition needed to be bullet proof. The moment that petition started to get close to 1M, you know publishers started turning gears to block future legislation. The committee of petitions will verify the petition and then refer it for fact finding. The points needed to be concise for the purpose of the fact finding committee. And they needed to be geared towards the EU acting which around a dozen times now have stated that while concerns are valid, it is up to the member nations to propose legislation on this (which is who the major publishers are reported to have approached - not some EU committee).

    I'm still salty about EA's Darkspore (which I might add doesn't mention on the case that internet access is required to play - which I did not have back in the day), but this petition just feels like minimal impact. I would just like to remind people that advocating SKG may feel good but that rarely equates to doing good.

    NOTE: I'll probably be downvoted to hell on it, but I imagine that is all that will happen. There really is no solid argument against what I've said.

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    For example, indie games like Objects in Space. It was Early Access and ran into technical issues which led to funding issues as they could only work so long on it. Its broken essentially. But it doesn’t matter if the project was beyond their scope of skill or they ran out of money, they would be forced to pay to fix it.

    First off, that studio will not be forced to go back and fix their game. Western democratic governments, including the EU, works on the basis that ex post facto laws are invalid. The game is already dead and abandoned from your telling, so there would be no expectation to revive it.

    The true solution for studios making new games in the future is to implement exit strategies for multiplayer implementation early on in development. And for single player games, much of that exit strategy is to not require login servers after the game is abandoned.

    And to address your specific example, there is one option that is extremely cheap and easy to implement that will certainly pass requirements: release the sorce code. If a EA game is truly so bungled that it’s better off abandoned, studios and publishers will always have the option to fully abandon it.

    The moment that petition started to get close to 1M, you know publishers started turning gears to block future legislation.

    You’re forgetting this is the EU, it’s significantly less susceptible to industry lobbying than the US. If it wasn’t the GDPR wouldn’t exist and Apple would still be using their proprietary chargers on all new iPhones.

    The points needed to be concise for the purpose of the fact finding committee.

    Have you not read the petition? I doubt it could be anymore concise in its language while still being possible to pass. You can’t specify exact implementations for games post-abandonment because any single solution will not work for every game.

    There really is no solid argument against what I’ve said.

    That is a claim befitting an egotistical fool. But at least now you can’t complain that nobody has addressed your concerns, as you claimed in your first comment.

    Mordikan,

    Have you not read the petition? I doubt it could be anymore concise in its language while still being possible to pass.

    Require video games sold to remain in a working state when support ends.
    Require no connections to the publisher after support ends.
    Not interfere with any business practices while a game is still being supported.
    
    

    That's it... 3 sentences is not concise. You want to base multi-national law off of 3 sentences. Maybe you should think that through a bit more. If the time can't be spent to actualy write out constructive goals or at least milestones (which is supposed to help dictate multi-national law) then maybe it should wait shouldn't it until you can.

    You're forgetting this is the EU, it's significantly less susceptible to industry lobbying than the US

    The VGE (the lobbying group you're talking about) helped to write the consumer protection, digital content licensing, and age ratings for the EU.
    They already helped create your laws so that's not really true is it.

    There really is no solid argument against what I've said.

    Sorry, it still stands.

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/concise

    Concise:

    marked by brevity of expression or statement : free from all elaboration and superfluous detail

    Aka, “short”.

    The petition absolutely is ‘concise’. You just have no idea what that word means.

    Using fancy words in an argument only works if you actually know what those words mean.

    Not only that, a long petition containing lots of details has its own drawbacks. For one, fewer people will read it and/or understand it, which will make it easier for detractors to confuse the general public with misinformation.

    Mordikan,

    Concise is synonymous with "to the point". In other words, you don't have to have lots of words, but they do have to be on target which your 3 sentences are not. So, no, it was correct word use on my part.
    The fact that you can't argue the VGE's involvement or anything other than a word's definition really doesn't make you look like you have a strong case here lol.
    Again, it seems like you have strong feelings, but that doesn't win court cases. Sorry, not sorry.

    mnemonicmonkeys,

    The fact that you can’t argue the VGE’s involvement or anything other than a word’s definition really doesn’t make you look like you have a strong case here lol.

    So you’re just ignoring all the other points I made earlier? On top of refusing to acknowledge that you don’t know what words you’re using?

    Concise is synonymous with “to the point”.

    No. The word you are looking for is “succinct”. You’re doubling down harder than PirateGames at this point, and with you including some egotistical snark at the end of every comment and claiming that you can’t possibly be wrong just further demonstrates that you’re a walking example of Dunning-Krüger syndrome with entitlement issues.

    Get over yourself. Instead of petulantly whining about a petition on the internet, go and do something actually productive with your life.

    Mordikan, (edited )

    So, I see the ad hominem attacks, but no actual argument of facts. Oh, and the "other points" you made earlier seem to be just you making up what the petition will do. Remember, you have 3 sentences to work from and things like releasing source code doesn't seem to be in those, does it? So, where did you get the source code mention you had? Is there a website with expanded bulletpoints I missed? No? Just something you felt should happen? You do that whole thinking with your feelings a lot, huh?

    Well, ad hominem I'm afraid is where you lose the argument in totality.
    Once you start down that path, nothing you say can be taken as a fact.
    You argue with facts/logic, not with emotion.
    Good luck with that petition.

    pycorax, do games w First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

    What’s stopping them from doing what DLsite did in Japan by using credits purchased off site? Seems like an alternative business opportunity there.

    amino,

    you mean gift cards bought at convenience stores? or do they buy them using a credit card and then the credits show up in your account?

    regardless, Visa and MasterCard have hegemonic monopolies on the market. anybody not using them will see huge losses in sales.

    pycorax,

    They’re gift cards that you can buy from a different online store that’s from a different company. Then you redeem them on DLsite.

    match,
    @match@pawb.social avatar

    lil pachinko plates from the guy across the hallway

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