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Rockslide0482, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

Maybe I’m in the minority (doubtful since the switch is super popular) but I don’t need the Switch2 to be better than current/next gen as far as hardware goes. It’s portability, flexibility and funativity are what sells the thing for me. I’ve got a PC if I want to play fancy pants AAA games. One day, I’ll probably have a Steam Deck. I like playing Zelda and Mario, etc. on my Switch like it’s a the Super-Mega-Gameboy that I dreamed about as a youth. I sometimes play it docked, but probably 80+% of my game time on it is in handheld mode.

If the Switch 2 was basically a PS5-esque console (non-mobile, regular console), I’m sure I’ll eventually pick one up to play Nintendo exclusives, but mostly that would just hasten my purchase of a Steam Deck.

OrnateLuna,

Even if it was portable but had so much performance I wouldn’t want it bc then the battery life would be bad.

dinckelman, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

We all get what that means, and don’t think otherwise for a minute. It’ll be unfinished 70€ titles, requiring 3 30€ dlcs to feel mostly complete, requiring a paid 15€ subscription on top of that. We’ve seen this a dozen times too many by now. Nintendo are just always late to everything

HobbitFoot,

Or it just means Nintendo isn’t going to rely on video games for growth.

The idea of paying anything for video games is already going away, with free to play games doing well in the youth market. And while the Switch is their best selling console, it is effectively a tablet with Bluetooth controllers and standard hardware. I don’t see Nintendo being able to maintain selling hardware after this next generation.

But Nintendo has a lot of IP that it hasn’t really tapped outside of video games. I expect that to change.

Jabbawacky,

No, as that’s fully against their philosophy. They ship complete games, on time, with limited if any bugs and with no microtransactions and large DLC expansions for most games.

He is clearly talking about their expansion into film, theme parks and other entertainment avenues other than games consoles or anything really done prior (Pokémon movies are TPC, rather than Nintendo).

alienanimals, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

I sure wish journalism would “evolve” so that every article wasn’t some brain dead take.

SgtAStrawberry,

Well they used to be that way so maybe journalism is in more need of devolving.

Wussy, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

Breaking news: The company that created the Nintendo Entertainment System and Super Nintendo Entertainment System is evolving into an entertainment company!

arefx,

Funny, but I think he means they want to take on the likes of Disney. Not necessarily be known for movies; but games, movies, shows, maybe even theme parks.

If any company has the ability to do it, it’s Nintendo.

cryptiod137,

Don’t they effectively do all of those things already? Maybe they have someone else produce or run them, but they already seem to make all of those.

Clown_Tempura, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I feel like I’m in the minority when I’m looking forward to Nintendo making a high-powered console for once. The last time their hardware was on par with or better than the rest of the industry was the Gamecube, which was an amazing little system.

dudewitbow,

I dont think itll be high powered, thats just the reporter adding something for clickbait.

Im one to believe in Bobby Kottick mentioning that the Switch 2 is roughly the power of a PS4 as he was in contempt of the court when his leak of its performance was discussed. the handheld likely has better cpu performance though vs ps4, as its basically in the same playing field as the steam deck is, both companies who can sit and make thir 30% cut from developer games.

Tldr, dont expect Series S perf, expect steam deck performance with better battery and DLSS support to 4k (i personally believe itll target 1080p60, and use DLSS Performamce preset to upscale to 4k, as 1440p tvs arent common)

Clown_Tempura,

Honestly a handheld PS4 equivalent of the Steam Deck sounds nice too.

darn,
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even then, the gamecube had mini discs instead of full sized ones, so games couldn’t be as big

the n64 was behind in a similar way, using cartridges when cds were starting to become the norm

Psythik, (edited )

You’re not. I’ve been wanting this since the GameCube, the last Nintendo system that was built with performance in mind and advertised as such. The Wii was a step in the wrong direction, and it was all downhill from there as far as my head canon is concerned. I’m glad that Nintendo is finally catering to fans like us again after waiting patiently for 22 years.

Hazdaz, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I don’t doubt it… Nintendo is always years behind.

The PS5 came out in 2020 and this Switch2 is probably a year away. So that would make their hardware be roughly 4 years old in terms of power. Plus if this is roughly the size of the current Switch, it won’t be pushing more than HD-resolutions (current Switch is only a 720 display), so getting PS5-level graphics on a 1080 screen these days is not particularly complicated or expensive.

Vathsade,

Current switch does 1080 docked already , so while I hope it’ll have at least 4k menus and 4k light games, I’d settled for 1080 again with some sorta more advanced AA for first party games

Hazdaz,

it’s screen is 720. I would not expect Nintendo to go above 1080 on the screen and maybe output a scaled-up 4K when docked.

Psyduck_world,

God of war 2016 PS 4 original setting at 720p on steam deck is about 30 fps. On ROG Ally afew frames less if you run it at 15 watts, at 45 watts Ally can probably do 720p at 50ish fps but less than an hour of battery. Ally is the top of line 2023 AMD tech apu and cost $700. Mobile technology is amazing right now, but it’s just not at a level where it can do 3 years old desktop graphics at a reasonable cost/power consumption.

toasteecup, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser

I had a bit of a rant about this a while back when I was playing Splatoon with friends.

The crux of the argument is this “if we stop trying to look at Splatoon as a good game and instead look at it as an entertaining game, the issues we run into make sense. The bugs glitches and bad balancing issues don’t matter as much from an entertainment standpoint. You get in you play and you’re entertained. Even if the match drops you can get back in an be entertained. It doesn’t mean it’s a good game, but it is entertaining.”

My friend’s and I are now freaking out about my prophetic words.

DharkStare, (edited )

I have to ask then: what’s the difference between a good game and an entertaining game?

From my perspective, games exist to be entertaining so if a game is entertaining then it is a good game. I don’t know what other metric would be used to determine if a game is good.

toasteecup,

Unfortunately that’s the part of the rant I don’t remember. I had a pretty decent definition for both a good game and an entertaining game and why they aren’t exactly the same thing but I also had a decent amount of beer that night.

If I think of it I’ll reply to your comment again with the update.

theneverfox,
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Mobile games, case in point. They often aren’t designed to be good or even fun, they’re designed to maximize playtime over the long term

That means you start off making it fun and easy to advance, but then you start to back off on the rewards and make them grind and wait more and more. It’s the Facebook technique

samus12345, w Super Mario Bros. Wonder Fire flower
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If the Toads have no problem with Mario literally consuming one of their heads as a power up, why would the flowers?

Xylight,
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Good point.

weedwhacking, w Video message from Shigeru Miyamoto and Charles Martinet regarding the change of Mario’s voice actor, announced on 21/08.

Here’s a link to YouTube instead :)

youtube.com/watch?v=LbcE4-b0PKs&si=lKaqC0o9Id…

CatZoomies,
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Here’s the alternative Piped link: piped.video/watch?v=LbcE4-b0PKs

Piped is the privacy-respecting front-end for YouTube, without predatory user tracking and advertisements.

circuitfarmer, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser
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…are they not already?

garretble, w Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser
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So this whole time they haven’t been producing entertainment products. Curious.

(I know what he’s saying, I’m just having a laugh.)

SupraMario,

Lol that’s what I was thinking…so my NES/SNES/64/Wii/wiiu/switch have all been…??? Educational or something else that’s not entertaining lol

Rockslide0482,

Man, I learned a TON about the Caribbean sea islands and colonial era big cities from Pirates on the NES. Countless hours spent pouring over this map to find hidden treasure and hunt down leads

…emu-france.info/…/pirates_nes_carte.jpg

jmcs,

Maybe the article explains exactly what he meant. Just maybe. (Spoiler alert: it’s not maybe, it’s literally in the beginning of the article)

TheMorningStar,

But how can I make snarky comments if I read the article?

son_named_bort,

I know right? I could’ve swore they produced an entertainment system back in the 80’s.

turkalino,
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and TV shows… and later a Mario movie (the better one)…

hydrashok, w Video message from Shigeru Miyamoto and Charles Martinet regarding the change of Mario’s voice actor, announced on 21/08.

Had to happen sometime. Sad to see it come, but Charles has had a hell of a run. He will continue to be the template for Mario, Luigi, Wario, and Waluigi for the rest of the characters’ existence.

Very much, in my mind, like any new Looney Tunes voice actors are just trying to sound like Mel Blanc.

It’ll be great to hear Charles’ influence for years to come, even if he’s not doing (or doing less of) the performances anymore.

kadu,
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He basically invented Luigi’s personality on the fly.

Luigi was just green Mario, right until they put Martinet with a live 3D face animation rig at an event and “talk to Luigi!” was one of the options.

He then came up with Luigi as the slightly cowardly, not as confident, but good spirited and kind, companion to Mario. The voice tone, the mannerisms, he just made it all up and Nintendo loved it.

Without that, no Luigi’s Mansion and the green Mario dude would still have no personality.

Wooster,
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Nah. Luigi had a personality prior to the 3D era. His modern portrayal is, at bare minimum, inspired by the Super Mario Adventure comics, where he was portrayed as the more cowardly of the two brothers. And that’s not even looking into things like the Super Show, which created Toad’s modern voice or the CYOA novels.

He put a voice to that persona, but he didn’t create it whole cloth.

kadu,
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Martinet himself explains how he made up the “cowardly” trait because at first, when people asked about Luigi, his way of dealing with it was replying that “my brother is too shy! Too scared! He can’t show up”.

Graphine, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I find this hard to believe. At this point Switch 2 “rumors” have just been used for clickbait now.

I think they’re working on it but it won’t be for awhile.

TPushic,
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@Graphine @nintendo If they work on it too long it’ll be obsolete upon release

paultimate14,

Nintendo is of course famous for never releasing obsolete hardware

Kolanaki,
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Judging from this article, it’s already obsolete.

echodot,

As per for Nintendo

AceFuzzLord, w Nintendo reportedly showed a demo of the ‘Switch 2’ console at Gamescom which included visuals comparable to the PS5 and Xbox Series X.

I’ll believe they made something on the same level as the competitors when the console actually comes out. An unreleased demo console is not something you should be using as a benchmark for how good the visuals are since the product will most likely go through a significant amount of changes in-between the demo and release.

Even then, there’s the chance that if the console is coming out a few days later, there is no guarantees they didn’t use an old demo console that is outdated compared to what will be released or wasn’t made specifically with the goal in mind of overselling the console by pouring resources into making the demo console actually better than the release one.

poke, w Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince details new battle and monster recruiting systems

Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker is my favorite DS game. I’m really hopeful this one is good. I also really hope it gets released on PC.

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