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ALERT, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'
@ALERT@sh.itjust.works avatar

please buy the full game without waiting for a discount. thank you from a humble game developer from Kyiv, Ukraine.

truxnell,

I will do a day one purchase despite being too busy with factorio expansion to actually start it just yet.

ALERT,
@ALERT@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thank you <3

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Already pre-ordered the Ultimate edition. Goes against my usual principles but I don’t care in this instance. I hope the game is a massive, GotY contending success.

ALERT,
@ALERT@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thank you <3

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Are you working on the STALKER 2 team?

ALERT,
@ALERT@sh.itjust.works avatar

No, I work at Wargaming Ukraine. But at least a dozen of my friends and ex-colleagues are working at GSC and the whole Ukrainian game development community respects what GSC does!

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

It’s inspirational what they’ve done. I really hope the launch goes well.

JigglySackles,

Where’d you preorder? I kept waiting for it to be available.

QuadratureSurfer,
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

www.stalker2.com/preorder

The physical copy comes with some goodies, or else you can pre-order through GoG, Steam, Epic Games, MS Store, or Xbox.

JigglySackles, (edited )

Well, That’s where I’ve been checking. So at least I’m not messing that up.I just keep getting a pic of a suprised dude holding a bitten piece of fried chicken leg. I just popped into the discord and they’re only mentioning the digital versions so far so maybe physical isn’t opened yet?

Nvm, missed the window. Looks like there are still places to get it though.

VonReposti,

I’m considering it. I’d probably want to know if it works well with Linux first.

Sylvartas,

Will do. I’m basically one decent trailer away from impulse buying it anyway. As a fellow game developer, allow me to say: I truly wish things will get better for you guys.

ALERT,
@ALERT@sh.itjust.works avatar

<3

JigglySackles,

I keep waiting for the ultimate edition to become available for purchase. Wouldn’t miss out on Stalker for anything. Russia can go fuck itself. I am sorry trump won here in the us and we may not be helping as a country anymore. I contributed in a few ways over the years but I wish I could do more than I have. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

poleslav,

After KSP2 I promised myself I would never do Early Access or preorder again. However, I made an exception for this. Love the stalker series and I’ve both preordered it and took the entire week off of work. You can say I’m definitely hyped lol

46_and_2,

I generally don’t pre-order, probably won’t this time too as release has creeped so close anyway. But definitely buying it full price, just waiting for some day-1 reviews to check if it needs patches or not. I love the STALKER series, played them all and I definitely feel I own GSC some more money for the FPSs I’ve most enjoyed in the last 20 years or so.

Sunny, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'
@Sunny@slrpnk.net avatar

This must be quite a big decision really, considering there are a lot of Russian players into the Stalker Universe.

But good on them, fuck em!

rockerface,

Maybe they should consider not supporting ongoing invasion of the country that universe originated from, if they are so into it

Sunny,
@Sunny@slrpnk.net avatar

I believe many quite a few people are against it, but afraid of speaking up - knowing they’ll be dragged into a back alley of they do.

rockerface,

And yet, I see just as many people openly flaunt russian language, flag and other symbols of that “country” online. What I’m saying is if you happen to live in russia but don’t support the russian state, better not reveal where you’re from at all

OrionTheElder, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'

I’m going to have to buy a new irony meter.

dinckelman, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'

The absence of self-awareness there is astounding

rockerface,

Oh they’re aware. It’s always projection

andrew_bidlaw, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

This article misses the point. The logic behind the likely regulation is that: a couple of GSC devs joined UAF (one KIA) and GSC donated to ukrainian funds -> you spend money on their products -> you have financially supported UAF. GSC wasn’t proclaimed a terrorist org (lmao) but laws here can be applied backwards if they’d need so.

Agent_Karyo,
@Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world avatar

You’re overthinking it. There is no logic in russian law. The Tsar says something and that’s the law.

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

Tzar doesn’t need anything to land one’s ass in jail, but it’d still be followed by traditional beaurocratic procedures just like in RE\USSR and that’s the likely way it’d follow through.

And, also, having Stalker on your acc or purchasing it via russian resellers may serve as a trigger that can make agencies or just your russian teammate tell on you for lulz if your profile wasn’t set to private.

Thcdenton, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'
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Blyat

tekato, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'

A Russian official has said that the game could face a total ban in Russia

The whole article is based off this unnamed “Russian official” btw.

Sabata11792, do games w STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl Potentially Banned in Russia Due To Potential 'Justifying Terrorism'

I’m planning on waiting a few days to check the reviews and make sure it can run on my PC, but it’s pretty promising to see such a glowing review coming in early from the Kremlin.

ByteOnBikes, do gaming w Fallout 76 Ghoul Experience Detailed by Bethesda

In before the “People still play?” Yeah. 12,000 people on average. The game was released 6 years ago. There’s been a hell of a lot of free updates since then.

We get it. You hate FO76/Bethesda/Todd Howard. Go touch grass.

Vodulas,

Also, game is pretty good nowadays

kurcatovium,

Which cannot be said about Todd Howard.

NakariLexfortaine,

He doesn’t have time for self improvement.

He just works.

kurcatovium,

Sixteen times the detail hard work!

Vodulas,

Not much good could be said about him

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Do they still focus on the whole CAMP thing? The game forcing me to make a base was a turn off

… I also avoided base making in Fallout 4

ByteOnBikes,

Unfortunately that’s the best part of FO76. Building your base/shelter, getting stuff for your base/shelter, etc. The story is okay. But at some point, everything revolves around you improving your base.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Ah nuts. Thanks for letting me know 👍

Telorand,

I don’t hate it, I just got bored. I felt similarly after Fallout 3. I think that universe just isn’t for me (also, the weight limits are ass for free players). I played the Metro series before Fallout, and I think it kinda set the bar too high.

I’m not surprised people still play, though. It’s pretty fun, and people are generally nice. There’s lots to do, and the quests are decent.

Vodulas,

The weight limit is bad. I played recently and it seems like they did some adjustments, so not as bad as it used to be

JokeDeity,

First time I’ve ever seen someone rate Metro above the Fallout franchise, not that there’s anything wrong with the opinion.

Telorand,

Yeah, and it’s not that I think Fallout is bad, it’s just…I think it feels too cartoonish? Like, people are supposed to be struggling, but despite the post-apocalyptic setting, each faction has their own little kingdom and seems to be doing alright. Medicine and stim packs abound, and nobody is really living on the knife’s edge.

And while that’s at least partly by design (supposed to be satirical sometimes), it doesn’t feel completely satirical, like Saints Row, or completely serious, like the Metro series. It’s caught somewhere in the middle, and I think that’s what doesn’t appeal to me; I want it to be silly or not silly, and it rides that line in a way I don’t like.

JokeDeity,

One man’s trash. That’s what I love about Fallout. 🤣

Malgas,

I felt similarly after Fallout 3. I think that universe just isn’t for me

Out of curiosity, have you played any of the non-Bethesda Fallout games? Because the Fallout-nees of FO3 (haven’t played 76 or 4) is a paper-thin veneer composed of random elements from previous games jumbled together in ways that make no sense.

Telorand,

I have the first two games, but I’ve never played them. I’ve done 3 and 76 (the latter of which I hear borrows heavily from 4).

Are the first two better narrative-wise?

TheRtRevKaiser,
@TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org avatar

Go touch grass.

There’s no need for this, seriously. I get that it’s a gaming community but we’re trying to be better than the usual toxic mess, right?

GammaGames, do gaming w Fallout 76 Ghoul Experience Detailed by Bethesda

Glad to see this is still going, I played it a ton at launch and had a lot of (buggy) fun. This is a neat update, I’m imagining groups of constantly ghouls roaming around nuked areas gathering all the resources.

Linktank, do gaming w Fallout 76 Ghoul Experience Detailed by Bethesda

Can you guys go back to making single player games?

tal,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

They did.

Fallout 76, a multiplayer game, predates Starfield, a single-player game.

Linktank,

I meant good ones.

tal,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I like both of them myself, albeit Starfield more.

DdCno1,

Starfield is good. It’s not the next Skyrim, it’s not the greatest RPG ever made, but it does more than enough things right to be worthwhile. It’s fine to not like a good game, by the way - but this doesn’t make it terrible.

JokeDeity, do gaming w Fallout 76 Ghoul Experience Detailed by Bethesda

This might be interesting… if Obsidian had done something like this. However seeing as how this is 76, a game that to this day runs like dog shit and is still the Bethesda game with the most bugs; I don’t think I’ll be enjoying this experience.

RobotZap10000, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator
@RobotZap10000@feddit.nl avatar

Hey, maybe this time the script kiddies won’t be able to sabotage people’s SINGLEPLAYER GAMES!

goferking0,

Maybe it’ll also actually get sp dlc?

Fredselfish, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

Only way I buy this:

  1. It is priced at 60 to 70 dollars (fuck that still hurts)
  2. It has a solid OFFLINE story mode.

If they try pull 100 dollar bullshit or fill it with micro transactions then I am out. Also I will not pre order this game (I didn’t with 5) I will wait until its out and I hear good things from the players.

Just like I did with 5. Had coworker who was bragging about the game every day. Finally and picked up a copy at Vintage Stock. This is the original PS3 version only one I have.

MolecularCactus1324,

Point 2 is the biggest for me. I haven’t played more than 30 minutes of gta5 online. Single player story is where it’s at. Wish we got more DLC.

Fredselfish,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

Same only tried it once was no fun. Yes they game was built to have multiple DLCs or hell lot more story could of been told.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

I only recently started playing again specifically because I found out that all the missions in online mode that required you to be in a public lobby are now able to be ran in a private lobby. Playing in a solo lobby is basically like getting more SP story (there are story missions in GTAO; it’s not all races and DM). Don’t have to deal with cheaters or asshats.

Fredselfish,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

Does it work on PS3?

hydration9806,

Genuine question, why is $100 too much for a quality game? Completely agreed on the micro transactions though

accideath,

Exactly. $100 is a lot of money, however games are cheaper than ever these days (adjusted for inflation) and $100 for no micro transactions sounds fair.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t buy it at that price either. I‘d wait for a sale…

nyctre,

Hm… how much is too much, then? If 70% higher than the industry standard isn’t too nuch

hydration9806,

Wow people really didn’t like my question!

To respond to yours though, I’d say it depends on how much content there is! If a game can easily take 1000 hours with no degradation of enjoyment, I would pay $100 for it

Edit to add: I realize this didnt exactly address your question, but I’m not sure what percentage since it heavily depends on the quality and quantity of content

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

For me personally, I find it really easy to add “hours” to a game’s runtime, and I’d sooner pay more for a higher quality experience and a shorter runtime. I’ve spent about a fifth of that 1000 mark in both Baldur’s Gate 3 and Elden Ring, and they’d have been worth $100 to me. Indiana Jones was worth every bit of the $70 I paid, and it took me under 20 hours.

nyctre,

Loved all gtas. Never played any for anywhere close to 1000 hours. Probably closer to 100. So that’s like… 10$? Seems fair to me, no?

Funny enough, all the games in which I have more than 1000 hours are all f2p.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

The only full price game I recall ever buying was Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 (back when £35 was the standard "full price" price point). Now that one was worth it, but no other AAA game that I can think of has justified the cost to me. Once we're talking about that amount of money there's a lot of other things I would get more enjoyment from.

I think I paid about £10 for GTA V. I'd maybe go to £15 or £20 these days, but beyond that I simply have other things I could play.

Squizzy,

Meh I’d drop 100 plus on standard night out. I dont buy many games but buying God of War Ragnarok for 30 and getting 100 hours of entertainment was well worth it, to the point I regret not buying it full price day one.

Flamekebab,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

There are many things I'd spend more on, but gaming is something that I can spend a lot of hours on without necessarily enjoying. As in, the experiences are often weirdly compulsive and before I know it I've tanked eighty hours without really enjoying it all that much.

I collected all the submarine collectibles in GTA V - do I think that was more fun than a party with friends? Absolutely not. Did it take more time? Most definitely.

Squizzy,

I was looking at it more in terms of using free time, not a one to one comparison

shadowedcross,
@shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works avatar

If the biggest game of the decade charges $100, every triple A game will charge the same, and other games will probably be more expensive as well, and in most cases it’ll be more money for the same steadily decreasing quality, at least in the triple A market.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

What makes you think other games will be able to get away with $100 when plenty of them are having a tough time getting away with $70?

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Because Rockstar is going to do it and sell a gorillion copies, so it’s basically a guarantee that everyone else will jump on the opportunity. And once every game is $100, what are people going to do, stop buying video games? I find that unlikely anymore. They’ll bitch and complain about it and sales might drop a little on average but studios will survive. And now we have a new price floor set forever.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

I think yes, people will stop buying video games (at that price). There are very few games that carry the demand that GTA does, and customers have shown with the likes of Suicide Squad that they won’t just buy anything that marketing tells them to. Meanwhile, customers are very aware of the options available to them for free.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

You’ve got more faith in the purchasing public than I do, then. I’ve been watching them buy a new copy of the same COD slop every year for a fresh $60 basically since I’ve been old enough to buy my own video games.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

People like what they like, and the core of CoD hasn’t changed enough to dissuade people, in general, yet it still has bad years where it doesn’t do as well as it did this year.

slaacaa,

I think it will be 80 dollars, with bigger editions available, eg. including online mode. For me, the 30fps is the most annoying, I was never a performance fanatic, but I’m used to 60 now.

Fredselfish,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

What why they lower it? That make no sense with the new hardware of PS5 and Xbox Sx or whatever it’s called.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

I’m tempted to hold out on the FOMO and wait for the inevitable PC release

DoucheBagMcSwag,
  1. PC release
smeg, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

I don’t do modern consoles, do people consider 30fps acceptable?

HeyJoe,

The majority of people playing don’t know the difference. I am shocked there won’t be a 60fps mode, i can’t remember the last time I’ve been forced to play at 30fps outside of playing older games locked to it.

EncryptKeeper,

RDR2

SolidShake,

I would imagine the game is at the highest possible graphic fidelity for consoles, and also the scale of the game will have a factor.

Remember. Gta V came out 12 years ago. It didn’t run at 60fps on any console until the PS5

HeyJoe,

Yeah, i know, for myself I didn’t really get to experience it until 2016 when I built myself a PC with mid range specs and then when I got the ps4 pro in like 2018. I say it’s one of those things where once you get to have it, you never wanna go back.

SolidShake,

Yeah. I have a PS5 and I heard gta 6 won’t launch on PC right away, but then I heard it is coming to PC lol. So idk. I’m almost hitting 40 and playing on my couch and tv has been more fun lately. But sometimes I just know a game will run much better on my PC.

What I should do is put my current build into a super small box with an external PSU and just install steam os and hook it up to my tv

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not shocking, when you consider the level of graphical fidelity they’ll be pushing on screen.

The more detail you add, the lower the framerate, on any given hardware. They will be balancing “oh my God!” level graphics, with playable frame rates. The fact they’re shooting for such a relatively low frame rate, shows how hard they’re pushing the hardware.

_sideffect,

Most don’t, the people who say they don’t realize it probably also say that “there’s no difference between 1080p and 4k!”

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

A stable 30 fps is perfectly playable for most people, yes

SkunkWorkz,

For most people the further they sit away from a screen the less they are going to notice it. And console gamers play on a tv from the couch. Of course if you show them a 60fps version after they played in 30fps they will notice but most people don’t understand why that is and thus not care. Like how many people watch movies with motion smoothing on since they don’t see that it looks smoother than the movies in the cinema.

Rockstar can get away with this since the vast majority of GTA player will be mainstream casual gamers that only have fifa/madden and CoD in their gaming collection.

slaacaa,

Absolutely not. I don’t remember the last time I played a game without 60fps performance option on my PS5

thermal_shock,

Same, even on my old GPU I’d adjust quality until I got stable 60, otherwise no thanks.

NocturnalMorning, (edited )

Yes, 30fps is fine, and expected even if you’re also expecting ultra realistic graphics. This expectation that people have of games being 60 fps and being stupid realistic is nonsense. You want realistic graphics and reflections when a game is first released, your gonna get 30 fps. And honestly, you can hardly tell the difference anyway.

Edit: Always expect the downvotes when I say this. The people in gaming subs, almost never understand how games are developed. Just demand without understanding the limitations of hardware and software.

_sideffect,

Some games go to 120fps and are actually realistic.

GTA was never about realism, it just had a huge open world with tons of things to do.

NocturnalMorning,

None that I’ve ever seen. It takes a lot of work to get good graphics even for 60 fps, a lot of optimization, that depending on the type of game, might be very expensive and time consuming to do.

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

Not me. I think it’s insane to ship a PS5 game that performs that poorly even on non-“pro” consoles

Blackmist,

Very rare to see 30fps games on PS5 that don’t have a performance option to get to 60.

Especially action games.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

From what i have seen, 60fps is acceptable for High Settings, 30fps is acceptable when Ray tracing is turned on

OmegaLemmy,
@OmegaLemmy@discuss.online avatar

No, 40 and 50 look good enough though, idk why people like 30 as a standard

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a number that divides easily into 120, which mattered more for old TVs, and it’s far enough over the threshold to trick our minds into seeing a bunch of still frames as a moving thing.

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