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Hadriscus, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

I played Oblivion at 8fps, bring it on

Thcdenton,
@Thcdenton@lemmy.world avatar

I know that feel bro

Klear,

Always looking down to get more FPS while walking around towns…

Sorgan71, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

My 144 hz monitor has ruined my ability to enjoy normal refresh rates in games. I need a support group for this ffs.

0ops,

I need a support group for this ffps.

Fixed that for ya 👍👍

wrekone,

It just looks dirty like that.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

If they intend to charge for GTA VI online, I will never play it

WordBox,

It’ll be a healthy decision

MolecularCactus1324,

I already never intend to play it. I only care about single player. Hopefully this means the game is cheaper.

Kolanaki, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator
@Kolanaki@pawb.social avatar

I have to assume they’re targeting 30fps because that would be using all the bells and whistles like raytracing and running at 4k on the consoles; which are unlikely to be able to achieve 60fps or higher with all that shit on.

And, as they have done with literally every single GTA since 3: It likely won’t release on PC at the same time. It will come 1-2 full years later and when it does, will have more features and run at a higher frame rate.

smeg, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

I don’t do modern consoles, do people consider 30fps acceptable?

HeyJoe,

The majority of people playing don’t know the difference. I am shocked there won’t be a 60fps mode, i can’t remember the last time I’ve been forced to play at 30fps outside of playing older games locked to it.

EncryptKeeper,

RDR2

SolidShake,

I would imagine the game is at the highest possible graphic fidelity for consoles, and also the scale of the game will have a factor.

Remember. Gta V came out 12 years ago. It didn’t run at 60fps on any console until the PS5

HeyJoe,

Yeah, i know, for myself I didn’t really get to experience it until 2016 when I built myself a PC with mid range specs and then when I got the ps4 pro in like 2018. I say it’s one of those things where once you get to have it, you never wanna go back.

SolidShake,

Yeah. I have a PS5 and I heard gta 6 won’t launch on PC right away, but then I heard it is coming to PC lol. So idk. I’m almost hitting 40 and playing on my couch and tv has been more fun lately. But sometimes I just know a game will run much better on my PC.

What I should do is put my current build into a super small box with an external PSU and just install steam os and hook it up to my tv

makingStuffForFun,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not shocking, when you consider the level of graphical fidelity they’ll be pushing on screen.

The more detail you add, the lower the framerate, on any given hardware. They will be balancing “oh my God!” level graphics, with playable frame rates. The fact they’re shooting for such a relatively low frame rate, shows how hard they’re pushing the hardware.

_sideffect,

Most don’t, the people who say they don’t realize it probably also say that “there’s no difference between 1080p and 4k!”

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

A stable 30 fps is perfectly playable for most people, yes

SkunkWorkz,

For most people the further they sit away from a screen the less they are going to notice it. And console gamers play on a tv from the couch. Of course if you show them a 60fps version after they played in 30fps they will notice but most people don’t understand why that is and thus not care. Like how many people watch movies with motion smoothing on since they don’t see that it looks smoother than the movies in the cinema.

Rockstar can get away with this since the vast majority of GTA player will be mainstream casual gamers that only have fifa/madden and CoD in their gaming collection.

slaacaa,

Absolutely not. I don’t remember the last time I played a game without 60fps performance option on my PS5

thermal_shock,

Same, even on my old GPU I’d adjust quality until I got stable 60, otherwise no thanks.

NocturnalMorning, (edited )

Yes, 30fps is fine, and expected even if you’re also expecting ultra realistic graphics. This expectation that people have of games being 60 fps and being stupid realistic is nonsense. You want realistic graphics and reflections when a game is first released, your gonna get 30 fps. And honestly, you can hardly tell the difference anyway.

Edit: Always expect the downvotes when I say this. The people in gaming subs, almost never understand how games are developed. Just demand without understanding the limitations of hardware and software.

_sideffect,

Some games go to 120fps and are actually realistic.

GTA was never about realism, it just had a huge open world with tons of things to do.

NocturnalMorning,

None that I’ve ever seen. It takes a lot of work to get good graphics even for 60 fps, a lot of optimization, that depending on the type of game, might be very expensive and time consuming to do.

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

Not me. I think it’s insane to ship a PS5 game that performs that poorly even on non-“pro” consoles

Blackmist,

Very rare to see 30fps games on PS5 that don’t have a performance option to get to 60.

Especially action games.

MyNameIsAtticus,
@MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world avatar

From what i have seen, 60fps is acceptable for High Settings, 30fps is acceptable when Ray tracing is turned on

OmegaLemmy,
@OmegaLemmy@discuss.online avatar

No, 40 and 50 look good enough though, idk why people like 30 as a standard

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a number that divides easily into 120, which mattered more for old TVs, and it’s far enough over the threshold to trick our minds into seeing a bunch of still frames as a moving thing.

ViscloReader, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

Honestly I’m fine with this as long as the graphics justifies the framerate.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not. I don’t have a tricked out PC to wait LONGER THAN MY SON HAS BEEN ALIVE for a 30 frames AAA game.

That isn’t AAA. It’s pure corporate greed.

cimmerian,

This is going to be TARGETED 30fps for consoles…

Your overpriced pc will probably go above that. Calm down

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

You calm down. Arrogant prick.

Hadriscus,

no u

lorty, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

We’ll get 60 and above on pc a while later anyway. Also the sold separately thing is probably just like they did with RDR2 where you could get everything or just the multiplayer part of the game, which I personally think is fine.

kemsat, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

I hope so! I’m interested in buying the single player game, and have absolutely zero interest in the online experience.

bokherif, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

Remember, they released GTAV with 30FPS first to PS5 , then they sold an upgraded PS5 version @60FPS for an additional $10 (which is free on most games).

SolidShake,

That is incorrect. They added a bunch to that $10 upgrade.

bokherif,

Like a simple switch to allow 60FPS on an already capable hardware?

poke,

Like entirely new movement models, gun animations, car details, and texture fidelity for supporting a good feeling first person view.

Squizzy,

Was that not ps3 to ps4 where they added first person view?

SolidShake,

Not really. There’s a reason the PS5 $10 upgrade isn’t compatible with the older versions in terms of online play. They updated a lot of graphics and models plus the 60fps. There are a lot of comparison videos on YouTube if you’re interested in even looking. The most noticable are like, damage models in cars is better, smoke looks more realistic and was redone, fire looks and acts better. Lighting is much better. Etc.

poke,

It was, I misread the conversation above. I don’t know what the situation was with the ps4->ps5 upgrade.

k1ck455kc,

This is false information. GTA V was backwards compatible from the ps4 version which ran at 30fps. Then they released an upgraded ps5 version that ran at 60fps. It wasnt a bad deal either.

bokherif,

Yeah but they still charged for the “upgrade”. A lot of gaming companies give you the PS5 version of a game for free if you already own the PS4 version.

k1ck455kc,

That is only if the game released on both consoles simultaneously, the ps4 version of gtav came out years ago, they deserved to charge for the upgrade…

And i am the opposite of a rockstar fanboy.

GeneralEmergency, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

It’s comment threads like this that just show how absolutely clueless G*mers are.

k1ck455kc, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

I hope they release as independent games, with a bundle deal ideally.

I dont want to buy the multiplayer on console because i dont pay for console subscriptions just to play multiplayer. I will wait for a PC release to play purchase multiplayer once and not indefinitely pay for it.

qwerty,

If they do it will be $60 for single player and $30 for online instead of $60 for everything.

RobotZap10000, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator
@RobotZap10000@feddit.nl avatar

Hey, maybe this time the script kiddies won’t be able to sabotage people’s SINGLEPLAYER GAMES!

goferking0,

Maybe it’ll also actually get sp dlc?

DoucheBagMcSwag, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

Bro if 30 fps is their target, I guarantee Switch 2 is going to get a version of this

Senseless, do games w Grand Theft Auto VI and Grand Theft Auto Online Could Be Sold Separately; Rockstar Is Targeting Solid 30 FPS on Consoles, According to Former Animator

idc as long as it’s not coming to PC. Don’t need GTA online anyway.

ByteOnBikes, do gaming w Fallout 76 Ghoul Experience Detailed by Bethesda

In before the “People still play?” Yeah. 12,000 people on average. The game was released 6 years ago. There’s been a hell of a lot of free updates since then.

We get it. You hate FO76/Bethesda/Todd Howard. Go touch grass.

Vodulas,

Also, game is pretty good nowadays

kurcatovium,

Which cannot be said about Todd Howard.

NakariLexfortaine,

He doesn’t have time for self improvement.

He just works.

kurcatovium,

Sixteen times the detail hard work!

Vodulas,

Not much good could be said about him

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Do they still focus on the whole CAMP thing? The game forcing me to make a base was a turn off

… I also avoided base making in Fallout 4

ByteOnBikes,

Unfortunately that’s the best part of FO76. Building your base/shelter, getting stuff for your base/shelter, etc. The story is okay. But at some point, everything revolves around you improving your base.

DoucheBagMcSwag,

Ah nuts. Thanks for letting me know 👍

Telorand,

I don’t hate it, I just got bored. I felt similarly after Fallout 3. I think that universe just isn’t for me (also, the weight limits are ass for free players). I played the Metro series before Fallout, and I think it kinda set the bar too high.

I’m not surprised people still play, though. It’s pretty fun, and people are generally nice. There’s lots to do, and the quests are decent.

Vodulas,

The weight limit is bad. I played recently and it seems like they did some adjustments, so not as bad as it used to be

JokeDeity,

First time I’ve ever seen someone rate Metro above the Fallout franchise, not that there’s anything wrong with the opinion.

Telorand,

Yeah, and it’s not that I think Fallout is bad, it’s just…I think it feels too cartoonish? Like, people are supposed to be struggling, but despite the post-apocalyptic setting, each faction has their own little kingdom and seems to be doing alright. Medicine and stim packs abound, and nobody is really living on the knife’s edge.

And while that’s at least partly by design (supposed to be satirical sometimes), it doesn’t feel completely satirical, like Saints Row, or completely serious, like the Metro series. It’s caught somewhere in the middle, and I think that’s what doesn’t appeal to me; I want it to be silly or not silly, and it rides that line in a way I don’t like.

JokeDeity,

One man’s trash. That’s what I love about Fallout. 🤣

Malgas,

I felt similarly after Fallout 3. I think that universe just isn’t for me

Out of curiosity, have you played any of the non-Bethesda Fallout games? Because the Fallout-nees of FO3 (haven’t played 76 or 4) is a paper-thin veneer composed of random elements from previous games jumbled together in ways that make no sense.

Telorand,

I have the first two games, but I’ve never played them. I’ve done 3 and 76 (the latter of which I hear borrows heavily from 4).

Are the first two better narrative-wise?

TheRtRevKaiser,
@TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org avatar

Go touch grass.

There’s no need for this, seriously. I get that it’s a gaming community but we’re trying to be better than the usual toxic mess, right?

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