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flamiera, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN

They were looking to have another Postal III on their hands anyways. Looking at the profile of the studio on Steam, they haven't really made any solid games. What made RWS think 'yeah we trust these guys' with that kind of portfolio?

squaresinger,

Trust a random studio with some long-dead IP in the hopes of making a little cash? Not so crazy imho. Nothing to lose.

MoreZombies,

Last Postal game was released in 2022. “Long-dead”?

MrScottyTay,

I think because RWS were kind of similar. Before Postal they just made a few educational games like Sesame Street etc. They probably felt they were giving a studio that was in a similar position to them the same kind of chance they got.

GreenKnight23, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN

you gotta be fuckin kidding…

_cryptagion, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN
@_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus avatar

everything is AI generated these days, especially the artists whose art you don’t like

purple_mimosa,
@purple_mimosa@lemmy.world avatar

AI is baked into every creator software now. All your favorite artists, musicians, writers all use AI more or less. Not using it brings you a disadvantage, whether you like it or not.

IronKrill,
@IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

Thank you for so bravely speaking on behalf of all artists.

p03locke, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN
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Postal was a 90s edgelord game. It doesn’t really fit in this era. Even if they managed to make it, I doubt it would have sold well.

Harvey656,
@Harvey656@lemmy.world avatar

No way. Postal 4 came out 3 or 4 years ago and was okay, and postal: brain damaged is great, it came out out in 2022. They can still work and be quite fun.

Vupware,

The protagonist gleefully kills MAGA fucks in P:BD

Harvey656,
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Its a wonderful boomershooter. Not exactly like the other games, but the same heart is there.

AmidFuror, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN

I heard many studios also use IDEs, which make programming more efficient, thus cutting jobs.

Jankatarch,

Despite popular belief, “cutting corners machine 3000” provides that “boost in efficiency” by cutting corners. And it cuts them wrong 51% of the time.

very_well_lost,

Using an IDE to write code is like using a pie tin to help you make a pie.

Using generative AI is like going to the local bakery, breaking their window, and stealing the pie.

dukemirage,

Except the cake will be good. It‘s more like making the entire cake out of fondant.

CIA_chatbot,

And the pie is actually the mop, because gen AI hallucinated that it was a pie

seathru, do games w Developer of New Postal Game Shuts Down Studio After Game Was Announced, Then Canceled Over Gen AI Allegations - IGN
@seathru@quokk.au avatar

It’s always drama with these guys (RWS). That’s been their marketing strategy from day 1.

A_Random_Idiot, do games w Paradox Takes the Blame for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Sales Flop, Announces $37 Million Write-Down

What? VTM2 came out?

When?

I legitimately did not know it was released.

Is that part of why its flopping?

Or is the gameplay bugged to fuck/story shit/etc?

regdog,

Don’t get too exited. Maybe in a year or two all the bad has been patched out and it might become an actually good game.

Landless2029,

Yep. I’m waiting at least 2 years.

A_Random_Idiot,

Yeah, that seems par for the course with current Paradox games the past few years…

Cities Skylines is 2 years old and still shit, too… Hell paradox is even going so far as to change the dev company working on it at the start of next year. Which is doing wonders for peoples hope for the future of the game /s

BuboScandiacus, (edited )
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I really hope that they go the CDPR route

GissaMittJobb, do games w Paradox Takes the Blame for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Sales Flop, Announces $37 Million Write-Down

NeverKnowsBest made a video about it, which I think is worth a watch: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWuokRjedOA

He also pins the blame squarely on Paradox.

Arkthos, do games w Paradox Takes the Blame for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Sales Flop, Announces $37 Million Write-Down

Paradox owns the world of darkness ip entirely right now. I wonder if this call to refocus their efforts on their core competencies will mean selling it off.

They haven’t done too well with it. They’ve released several games and I think some solo dev interactive fiction have been the only ones getting positive reviews: Earthblood, Swansong, Bloodhunt, and now Bloodlines 2 have all done pretty poorly. Even the tabletop RPG has seen better days, with 5th edition causing quite the controversy, mostly with Werewolf. Hell they closed White Wolf down for a while because the books caused controversy.

Paradox have done a terrible job with the IP.

Agent_Karyo, do games w Paradox Takes the Blame for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Sales Flop, Announces $37 Million Write-Down

An earlier statement from one of the Paradox PR reps (before release):

"I actually played Bloodlines 1 quite recently, and it is a good game, but it is also an old game, and there are many things that would not fly today," Lilja said. "But I understand why people were super psyched by it in 2004, because it had a lot of cool [elements], and the feeling of being a vampire is really strong, regardless of other features. But I think people, they remember their feelings about it. And if they replayed it, I think they would see that it's a competently good game by 2004 standards, now that it's patched.

Seems like their approach to Bloodlines 2 isn't much of "high flyer" in the year 2025.

In defence of the PR rep, they were open about Bloodlines 2 not having much to do with the original and that it was more of vampire themed linear action game.

But in that case, why would you have internal targets of 2M+ initial sales if your plan is to have a radical departure from a well known cult classic RPG known for its roleplaying and strong writing?

Nibodhika,

Not replying to you but to that statement, they’re absolutely wrong. I’ve never finished Bloodlines, life keeps getting in my way and I keep losing my save file (this is not unique to Bloodlines, there are several other games that are in the same bag). My point is every few years I start a new save on the OG bloodlines, and that game still holds out great, sure graphics are outdated, but other than that it’s a great game even by today standards, and while I haven’t played bloodlines 2, I’m fairly confident from everything I’ve seen it’s a worse game by every metric that matters. These people think that graphics can overcome anything, but that’s one of the least important parts of the game.

AnarchistArtificer,

To be fair, the first part of the game is by far the best. The unofficial patch adds back in a heckton of content in the late game, but even then, it feels sparse. I have very fond memories of exploring Santa Monica though. The game felt huge and exciting, even playing it for the first time in 2019.

Damn, I should try install it again. I’m running Linux now, and if I recall, I had some problems getting it working. I should take another crack at it.

Nibodhika,

To be fair, the first part of the game is by far the best. The unofficial patch adds back in a heckton of content in the late game, but even then, it feels sparse.

Maybe, I don’t know how far into the game I got since I never finished it. But I don’t think it ever felt empty… Although the damn zombie mission is one I hate and has made me quit the game in more than one occasion.

I’m running Linux now

I have been running Linux only for over a decade, so I can confidently say the game runs, and in Steam is just hit play.

AnarchistArtificer,

Were you running it with the unofficial patch? I don’t remember what it was that was causing me problems, but it’s possible that was it.

Nibodhika,

I don’t remember, probably not last time, but I remember doing some patching in the past.

CaptainBasculin, do games w Creator of Original Thomas the Tank Engine Mod for Skyrim Puts Thomas in Morrowind in Defiance of 'Legal Threats'

What company puts legal pressure on a mod this iconic, it does not make sense, it’s literally free advertising on a completely different game that cannot affect any revenue they make from Thomas negatively.

scrubbles,
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Lawyers and marketers who refuse to see nuance and view everything as a potential threat

Tanoh,

IANAL, but I believe in some places you have to go after any and all forms of it, otherwise you risk losing the whole thing. I think US is one of those places.

Kn1ghtDigital,

I’m also not a lawyer but I’ve also seen how the law doesn’t seem to mean shit anymore. Fuck companies.

can,
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

this is new to me thank you

can,

In that case enjoy the behind the scenes and the follow-up feedback song

rafoix, do games w Paradox Takes the Blame for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Sales Flop, Announces $37 Million Write-Down

Can’t wait for the next sequel that will be some kind of live-service multiplayer game with lots of cosmetic DLC.

rainwall,

Tried and failed already, but paradox can probally find more ways to fail.

rafoix,

Dang, they’re a joke.

Weird that they want to expand out of the strategy game genre by turning a love RPG into a basic action adventure game.

Wubwub, do games w Paradox Takes the Blame for Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 Sales Flop, Announces $37 Million Write-Down

I already completely forgot this had come out

rustydrd, do games w Creator of Original Thomas the Tank Engine Mod for Skyrim Puts Thomas in Morrowind in Defiance of 'Legal Threats'
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ShaggySnacks, do games w Creator of Original Thomas the Tank Engine Mod for Skyrim Puts Thomas in Morrowind in Defiance of 'Legal Threats'
@ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one avatar

“I made a mod that replaces cliffracers with Thomas the Tank Engine,” ‪Trainwiz‬ wrote on the Nexus Mods page for Really Useful Cliffracers.“I am incapable of learning lessons whenever it involves corporations, because I fundamentally do not view toy company CEOs or media CEOs as people.”

Remember, CEOs aren’t people. CEOs are legally parasites.

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