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cronenthal, do games w The game "Horses" now barred on Steam, Epic and Humble Bundle

Based solely off the trailer I can see how a big American storefront would err on the side of caution here. There is very little to gain from carrying a game decidedly built with controversy in mind, but a lot to loose.

With the publicity around it and sales still possible through alternative stores maybe things will turn out alright for the developer in the end. “Banned” media is always in demand, after all.

Bronzebeard,

Unless it unexpectedly sells gangbusters, the dev says they’re likely to shut down as not having the massive steam audience to sell to won’t net them enough to continue. And people are stupidly loyal to valve for some reason.

Maestro,

That's because Valve is privately owned and this has largely resisted the enshittification that largely plagues public companies and private equity frims.

Bronzebeard,

Except people give them passes for shit that they don’t extend to other companies. The blind loyalty is stupid

Zorque,

Such as? Perhaps if you specified on what they’re getting a pass for people could be a little less blind.

Blackmist,

Practically inventing loot boxes.

Killing ownership of videogames.

The usual.

markz,

It very well could be true, but the dev also seemed full of shit in the first interview I saw, pretending that he had no clue why it was banned.

Bronzebeard,

I mean, he released the communication he’s received. It’s not super clear. And the things he thinks it was isn’t even in the current version of the game

KaChilde,

The response said “no CSAM”.

If they had to scratch their heads trying to figure out what parts of the game needed to change to not include allusions to that, then they have bigger problems than not releasing on Steam.

Bronzebeard,

They did change the one scene where that could have even conceivably applied. It wasn’t actually that to begin with, either.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

The scene where a little girl asks to ride a naked man, and then rides a naked man? You don’t see why that might be problematic?

Bronzebeard,

Why is reading so hard for so many on this platform?

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t know but don’t give up. Try reading my post again, take it slow, I’m sure your can work it out.

yermaw,

They’d be as well carrying on. Its in a pretty unique position as being a game that people are talking about before its even finished, which is pretty uncommon for most titles, and can be “the game they tried to ban” which did wonders for Manhunt, GTA and Postal.

cronenthal,

Valve is pretty upfront about being a business first and foremost. Their customers are loyal because they consistently provide high value at reasonable prices, even though they are in a dominating position in the market. They’ve taken unpopular decisions in the past, but never any that seriously alienated a meaningful chunk of their customer base.

Buddahriffic,

Like for instance, when epic came out with their exclusive access titles being a part of their business plan, valve could have responded with their own exclusive access system and had a good chance of killing off epic and others in the process. Instead they just ignored it and people like me continued using them and didn’t even consider epic even when their anticompetitive actions switched to ones that would have benefitted me (free games), because I could see the shithole they wanted to bring gaming to if their platform achieved dominance.

W3dd1e, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it

And the rest is Jared Kushner. Enjoy that shit sandwich.

EA was already shit, but somehow they found bread made from shit and built a whole sandwich.

acme401, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it
@acme401@lemmy.world avatar

I deleted my account, intentionally losing access to all my games. Fuck EA. I will not be associated with murders.

Blackmist, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it

And the worst thing is, they probably still won’t be as self-destructively greedy as they were before.

clay_pidgin, do games w The game "Horses" now barred on Steam, Epic and Humble Bundle

Is it actually any good? I don’t really play horror, but it mostly just looks odd in the trailer.

hexx,

Making the matter even more frustrating is the fact that Horses is apparently quite good—or at least, it accomplishes what it sets out to do. The content is decidedly uncomfortable but reviews and reactions on social media are largely positive

Horses is not low-effort, throwaway trash, but rather a game that genuinely seeks to provoke consideration and conversations.

From the article.

Arcane2077,

It’s horrific, not horror.

prole,

I doubt it. The dev puts out slop garbage.

iambatman1469,

Probably not, but most games are bad regardless of controversy.

Deestan, do games w The game "Horses" now barred on Steam, Epic and Humble Bundle

Looks like it has triggered someone’s “we can’t be seen backing down!” reflex at Valve

Goodeye8,

What are you on about?

Deestan,

The game being banned for a misunderstood piece of placeholder concept art in a Steam approval preview build, which was both removed, and explained. Then Valve refusing to reconsider it and rejecting all attempts to clarify their objections.

Goodeye8,

I know. It’s not Valve’s fault the developer fucked up and gave them the wrong build to review. But that has literally nothing to do with this article unless you’re somehow trying to insinuate that Valve influenced other storefronts.

_cryptagion,
@_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus avatar

if one of the builds for your game contains CSAM, then I don’t really give a shit what alternative builds you have, I don’t want to play anything made by you. kudos to Valve for not dealing with pedophiles.

blackris,
@blackris@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

What I get from reading about that scene, it is just one of many examples in that game that was supposed to show how animals are abused on farms by replacing them with humans and letting other people doing „normal“ things to them like marking them with a branding iron or, like in that scene, riding on them. How any sane person reads anything different into that than: this is supposed to show animal abuse really blows my mind.

alehel,

Doubt it. They probably don’t care enough to have a reflex. They denied it, and likely aren’t going to give it much more thought now that they have.

crusa187, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it

Didn’t need additional reasons to never buy EA garbage, but yeah sure ok.

desmosthenes, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar

EA games suck nowadays anyway; this was just a buyout for shareholders and founders.

YesButActuallyMaybe,

Remind me: when was this not the case? I never in my life heard anyone ever say ‘oh great, it’s an EA game’

utjebe,

Probably games around year 2000. Not so much recycling back then.

pinheadednightmare,

Yep, their early days were bad ass… pretty much like any company that starts out before they become corporate cock suckers

desmosthenes,
@desmosthenes@lemmy.world avatar

dead space, mirrors edge, original skate

yggstyle,

Just listed some of my favorites right there. ME was way ahead of it’s time. Banger game.

watson387,
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar
Cocodapuf,

93 was my jam.

But yeah, I’d play that.

I_Jedi,

Harry Potter and Sorcerer’s Stone for PC was pretty good.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

Does “It takes two” count as an EA game?

TipRing,

Back in the late 80s they were pretty legit.

Prove_your_argument, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it

Yeah the kushner share is a bribe to bypass regulatory oversight, didn’t you know?

W3dd1e,

Do they need Kushner for that? They done a pretty good job funneling money to Him over the last 8 years.

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/77d45518-f6c0-4df3-a582-b682b7833ca5.webp

Prove_your_argument,

As long as the money keeps coming there won’t be any problems.

That’s always how it’s been!

toxicbubble, do gaming w When the worst company in the world couldn't get any worse...

noone mentioned Amazon because you’ll happily let them destroy the world for 2-day shipping

Krompus, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it
@Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

EA (Respawn) peaked at Titanfall 2 and hasn’t released anything good since. I set them to Ignore on Steam a few years ago.

zaphod,

Jedi Fallen Order was good though (also Respawn).

Krompus,
@Krompus@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah Respawn is a good dev, just a shame they got bought by EA and scrapped Titanfall 3.

real_squids,

And even then they massively fucked up by ignoring all the ddosing for years. It gave us Northstar but it’s a paid fucking game, come on man.

echodot, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it

I mean it’s not like they can make it any worse.

Fedizen, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it

How is this even legal?

okamiueru,

What exactly about it is it you feel should be illegal?

Fedizen,

Foreign country buying a US corporation. Seems like their investment should be capped at like 15%

Blaiz0r,

US companies by foreign companies all the time, look at the food and drink corporations.

This is not a new or strange thing

cecilkorik,

It’s definitely not new, but it’s time to start thinking about how strange it is, and start pulling these assholes off their money-merry-go-round.

titanicx,

It’s a world economy. What are you, some sort of maga twit America first and only bullshit?

cecilkorik,

That is some very black or white, us or them, red team vs blue team thinking. It’s very interesting that you immediately jump to that conclusion when I am not even from the US at all. The answer to your question is absolutely not, and the fact that it’s a “world economy” doesn’t and shouldn’t mean any people are obligated to do business with and accept the controlling interest of literal monsters fueled by oil and oil money. Ethics must also be allowed to control the economy, not just money. The world’s financial systems have consequences beyond just the economy.

lolola,

“Stop being such a fascist and let us do business with these fucking murderers”

titanicx,

I don’t want them to buy it. But there isn’t anything illegal with investors purchasing a company line this no matter where they are from. It’s just business, it really doesn’t matter who owns them, they suck no matter what

Fedizen,

I think its more there is a certain level of baseline public investment in most corporations and it seems dumb to maintain the fiction that people’s livelihoods should be sold as a commodity, especially to a bunch of despots

Bronzebeard,

US Steel is now a Japanese company

Fedizen,

Except many foreign countries have stricter legal frameworks for corporations.

The “corporations are people” legal fiction means they have rights here. Citizen’s United has fucked this country in profoundly dumb ways.

greenskye,

I’d think we’d be far more concerned about critical resource companies before we got to worrying about gaming companies, but we can’t even do that so I’m not surprised.

forrgott, (edited )

You seem to be under some misconception regarding who actually writes our laws. Hint: they’re called lobbyists to get people to ignore the rampant bribery.

titanicx,

Bribery? They are buying a company. That’s it. There isn’t anything special about it. It’s like any other company out there.

forrgott,

And I was talking about the so-called legality of the situation. So, pretty clearly not referring to the headline…

titanicx,

Again, no legal issues.

forrgott,

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/3d8e96ad-382f-4ff8-a199-b8b05e33c526.gif

How about if you can’t follow a conversation, maybe stay out of it? Like, for real, I didn’t know that else to tell you.

Cocodapuf,

If you’re not talking about the headline, what “situation” are you talking about?

Honestly, I’m not sure you’re talking about anything.

magnetosphere, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it
@magnetosphere@fedia.io avatar

Does EA own any other companies/brands that we should be aware of?

moody,

Yes, they’ve been buying up smaller studios for decades and shutting them down.

There’s an entire wikipedia page about it.

DamienGramatacus,

The only EA franchise I’ve cared about in the last 15 years was Mirrors Edge. Would love another but I’ve long given up hope on that.

Credibly_Human,

Unfortunately they have an exclusive publishing deal with the guys who made it takes two and split fiction.

bystander,
gustofwind, do games w It turns out Saudi Arabia will own 93.4 percent of EA if the buyout goes through, which is effectively all of it
@gustofwind@lemmy.world avatar

If you still buy EA games at this point you better not tell anyone because you’re a braindead fuckwit for sending Saudis your money

poVoq,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

I have bad news for you if you drive a non-electric car 😏

gustofwind,
@gustofwind@lemmy.world avatar

Some people have no choice in what kind of car they can afford to drive.

We all have a very easy choice when it comes to choosing your video games

Allero,

People commonly have a choice not to drive a car in the first place.

Though cultural pressures, as well as some specific areas being genuinely hard to reach, pushes many people towards it anyway. But if you have a choice, choose public.

gustofwind,
@gustofwind@lemmy.world avatar

People do not commonly have a choice here

In America there is near 0 public transit outside of a few major cities

Phil_in_here,

Have you seen North American public transportation?

Yeah, I have a “choice”, but it’s 60-85 minutes on 3 busses or a 12 minute drive to get to and from work.

Allero,

Yeah, North America and US specifically is one of these hard to reach places

Also, 12 minutes drive is a biking distance - if you have any semblance of bike infrastructure, that is. Surprisingly though, even American cities have that sometimes.

alk,

I’d have to ride several blocks on a 4 lane stroad to go anywhere outside of my neighborhood. It’s so depressing.

Allero,

Feel you - hope you’ll have safer ways to bike in the future! Maybe there are some kind of bike advocacy groups in your area?

jaybone,

This thread is peak Lemmy.

Anivia,
@Anivia@feddit.org avatar

Also, 12 minutes drive is a biking distance

My 15 minute car commute would take over an hour with a bicycle, lead me over multiple busy and dangerous country roads, has three mountains with over 20% elevation that I have to pass, and would be incredibly unsafe in the winter even with studded tires.

Don’t get me wrong, I actually do take my bicycle when I’m not in a hurry and the weather is right. But it’s a huge time sink and doesn’t absolve my of my dependency on a car.

The same commute takes 2 hours with public transport btw so that’s even worse

And this is in Germany, not north America

Allero,

Sad to know!

postcapitalism,

As much as I hate the ruling family of Saudi Arabia… get off it:

bts.gov/…/us-petroleum-use-domestic-supply-and-ne…

reuters.com/…/how-much-crude-oil-does-us-import-b…

Your information is dated. We are net exporters of crude oil for the past 15-years with majority of import from Canada and Mexico

But for what it’s worth - fully believe renewables are the way forward for geopolitical and ecological stability. This is the more important narrative

poVoq,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Because there exists only one place in the world and that is called US of A? 🙄

Saudi Arabia is still the biggest oil exporter in the world (as of 2024). If you drive an internal combustion car anywhere, chances are high that you paid the Sheiks at least some money for doing so.

postcapitalism,

Touché 😅

EddoWagt,

We are net exporters of crude oil for the past 15-years with majority of import from Canada and Mexico

Damn, I didn’t know the Netherlands exported any crude oil!

Test_Tickles,

Wait, you think the Saudis buying EA have anything to do with profit? EAs profits and earnings are meaningless to them.

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