I got the game and some small ship bundle a year or two ago for like $20. It was a pretty fun game for the cost, but I honestly wouldn’t pay more than $30 for it. It’s buggy, runs like hot garbage even on my 3080 ti, and it’s very much a mile wide inch deep content wise from what I remember
So they’ve been telling us it is done and just needs polish/finishing touches. If that’s the case it is odd they’d need sudden forced overtime for a simple demo…
Usually means almost ready for release not many years away.
Hell even in their own words it’s just around the corner.
As we move into the polishing phase, we’re fully focused on optimizing and fine-tuning all aspects of the gameplay experience to deliver an unprecedented cinematic adventure
no, no it does not, It means it is feature complete, that is all, feature complete meaning “we are about to release” is some radical redefinition shit you are doing to justify your feelings
Sometimes I wish No Man’s Sky and Elite Dangerous would combine their talents into one game just to get Star Citizen to shut up permanently.
Each one could use features from the other. Add in a dynamic user controlled economy, and suddenly everything SC has been promising after wasting hundreds millions of dollars would be right there.
As much crap Frontier gets, they made a killer custom game engine which perfectly makes it hugely immersive from day one, which shouldn’t be surprising considering the original Elite was the first proper wireframe 3D graphics game.
Hello Games got a proper roasting for releasing a shell game, but they actually bounced back. Their planet generation and surface gameplay is unmatched, and their updates outshine Frontier’s.
ED started out as a crowdfund too, and No Man’s Sky as essentially a startup. Both of these game’s received their fair share of criticism, but ultimately they produced a solid 4/5 game. Meanwhile Scam Citizen has been bankrolling for 12 years now, yet they hardly seem to receive the same level of criticism as ED ans NMS got for comparatively much much smaller issues.
It is noted for being one of the highest-funded crowdfunding projects, having raised over US$700 million as of May 2024
but that’s not how it works is it, you can’t just super Sayan fusion two games now can you?
PS: about the criticism, this is literally the annual “SC bad” post from these publications, generally complete with random ass unnamed sources and others (when the guy lying to you based off conformable fake shit like a “work ID” as proof of employment is the better source, eg. Derek Smart)
I haven’t bought the game and probably never will, since I don’t like the Dune-iverse at all. I have friends who play it and it’s a 100% online game. I’m sure you could pretend to play solo but you’re still connected to a remote server.
How would you have a multiplayer online game without forced online play? It’s a requirement of multiplayer (I guess barring LAN, but what is the likelihood of anything being “massive” multiplayer while on LAN) and online. That’s like 2/3 of the name
I didn’t play Vanilla but my friend talked me into Classic at launch. I played for a year or two before quitting and playing retail (which I’ve since stopped playing as well).
I loved my time in Classic but in retrospect, my fondness was just for my guild. I hated the “leveling journey” they’re praising here. Both games are a rush to max level…Classic is just slower.
With limited time, I really don’t want to spend half my night looking for a group and then traveling to the dungeon. I don’t want to wait 20 minutes for the quest mob I couldn’t tag to respawn.
Personally I just don’t want a level grind in an MMO. I love them in single player games (or even some multiplayer like bg3) but not in an MMO where levels are a barrier to entry for a lot of game activities. I think I would have loved Classic as a jobless teenager but now…it’s just not for me.
I’m happy for anyone who finds joy in Classic, though.
loved my time in Classic but in retrospect, my fondness was just for my guild.
The social aspect and the game being slower are intrinsically tied together. Having to run to the dungeon and then wait 15 min til a straggler shows up lets you know the people you are playing with in ways that modern MMOs and their gogogo playstyle just don’t allow.
Classic was full of systems that intentionally put the social aspect of the game front and center.
But I got that on my retail guild, too, we just weren’t waiting for the zeppelin while we did it. By far the biggest social loss of the modernization is that so much of it is cross-server now - you’ll probably never see the people in your group again after the dungeon. I do miss knowing nearly everyone on the server. The time our whole faction rallied to stop this one guild from getting scarab lord after they griefed another guild by mass reporting them is one of my favorite gaming moments of any game.
But really, it’s the LACK of systems that put the social aspect front and center. There was very little to do outside of pvp and leveling alts - two things I didn’t enjoy. Non-raid nights were usually extremely boring, Classic became a chat room I’d keep on my second monitor. As fun as guild chat might have been, the lockdown is long over and I don’t find that to be a great use of time.
As a kid I’d sit my favorite tfc server just to chat so I get the appeal but with so many options out there, I guess nowadays when I log on I want to play more than socialize
Wow, if they want to turn Xbox around, they are going to need people. Cut Phil’s pay instead! He likely already gets far more compensation than he needs.
Even clearer now that the neXtbox is confirmed to be a prebuilt PC. They want PC/Windows to be their sole focus going forward with Xbox being a brand/app that runs on anything.
The 70bil USD ActiBlizz acquisition that was championed by Xbox fans is what ironically killed their traditional approach. Line must go up, and Xboxes weren’t cutting the mustard.
Yeah, that’s the reality…Big Business People making choices that will make the line go up. To be fair, it is a savvy move to make software readily available if the hardware isn’t moving; especially in the case of Microsoft’s first party games. Sony, being the consumer hostile and shoddy PSN holder, wouldn’t be my first pick for victor in the console space. Strange things happen when you got a few good exclusives, and pricey consoles, I guess.
It’s good that Microsoft is contemplating how to move forward, but, I disdain the news of more layoffs. They really should keep their core staff and cut pay for CEOs and C-Suites of Xbox instead. Since they are the ones who actually failed Microsoft. The neXtbox (essentially a prebuilt PC) and handheld might be a way for them to reach audiences again. Even though Valve is killing it in the Handheld Market with SteamOS and their Steam Deck; Microsoft better not recoil in fear due to this, as staying the course and making better choices will help.
They are the ones responsible for killing xbox though. Shit games, awful GUI, trash naming schemes, bad series S holding series X and the rest of the industry back, bad marketing and list goes on. If they cared about physical consoles, phil spencer would have been fired by now.
I mean I paid $45 dollars for a ship a decade ago and have since made 100s of hours of wonderful memories with my friends. I wish I got scammed more ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I spend about 100 on the game. I paid like 45 or 50 for the base game then spend about 50 to upgrade my ship. Honestly, I don’t feel ‘scammed’ at that price point. I feel bad for the dudes who spent thousands on ships though.
This is a large part of it. But there is also other people who have put the minimum amount or no money into it and just want a cool space game and also want the developers to not be pressured into rushing updates out (they were once and it was unplayable for a month). I am not defending the sketchy stuff cig have done, they really need to look at how they manage this game and their business, I would have gladly put more than the bare minimum into the game if they didn’t charge so much for everything beyond the first purchase (about £35) but they do too much wrong for me to support it any more than I have
I haven’t bought into it or anything, but I followed the development for a while in the 2010s because I was really excited for what they showed.
Speaking personally, I just want a game that would let me feel immersed in a spacefaring future human civilization. I’m never gonna live to see that. So, I’d like a game where I can at least pretend.
EvE doesn’t work for me. I’m not interested in spreadsheets, and I want to be able to fly my ship instead of just clicking to move (I assume that’s still how it controls? I only played briefly in the 2000s)
Starfield is…Starfield. I just appreciate that they tried something, honestly. No Man’s Sky seems pretty neat, although I don’t really know what you do in that game outside of just collecting resources. I need to try it sometime.
Elite Dangerous is great. It comes the closest to scratching the itch. Zooming through the galaxy looking for different astral phenomena and sights to see is a really chill way to spend an afternoon. But, it only really gets so deep. The space legs (I mean, the Odyssey expansion) only do so much to make you feel present. Space stations and outposts really only consist of two or three different layouts of one big room with the same shops. Settlements mostly only exist to be mission objectives. You get 8 guns and 3 pistols to choose from. That’s about it. Not super immersive once you step outside of your ship (personally speaking).
But, pretty much the main thing they’ve been trying to accomplish with Star Citizen is to make it the most immersive experience they can. It’s right there in the name, isn’t it? You get to play at a citizen of an interstellar civilization. That’s the idea. I’m not sure if that’s the reality.
So, yeah. Speaking personally, I’ve got a dream I’ll never see realized, and (it feels like) no one stepping up to offer a proper simulation. I imagine a lot of folks are clinging to Star Citizen out of desperate hope, since there’s not really a proper alternative if it ever goes away.
To me NoMansSky feels like singleplayer Minecraft but with planets and tasks/missions.
So if you arent fond of that, I’m afraid it’s not for you. You can play witg randoms but I would say this isnt the norm.
A friend of mine who bought it clearly states that that’s never going to get anywhere. But he’s only paid a regular amount and accepted the risk and loss.
I had an argument with someone who kept claiming that it was all okay because it was “in alpha”, all the developers have to do is claim that the game isn’t finished yet and is still in development and then they can sell it for whatever price they want an idiot will buy it and defend it.
Because it’s in a genre that has no good alternatives?
EVE is spreadsheet simulator, Elite Dangerous is space-truck simulator, NMS is all planets not space, StarField is StarField.
The only viable alternative I found was X4. Even that is slightly different from what Star Citizen promises (it’s more empire management than solo flying in the endgame, vanilla balance is also questionable: you can “luke skywalker” a destroyer with a scout with pure dogfighting skills)
Honest question, what does it give that eve doesn’t? If X4 is a good alternative why is eve really so lacking? Give it a try, do a level 1 security mission in a merlin, it’s very similar to X4
I can’t simultaneously play a third MMO (already got FFXI and FFXIV)
X4 custom start allows me to jump to the parts I want to play instantly, no matter if it’s starting wars, flooding the market, dogfighting, etc
My X4 save is a gzip file: no need to worry about latency after moving to another country etc (my EVE account is locked to a region halfway across the world)
I don’t have to wait for irl people to do something fun in X4
The gziped save file is in xml format. If something breaks I can just fix it
X4 has a huge modding scene for whatever features you want
X4’s modding tools are super easy to learn: it’s all xml and lua. Took me only 2 hours to figure out how to modify the UI from scratch.
Just a shout out to Stephanie Sterling for covering Koticks fuckery since the beginning (on youtube) And Jason Schrier for publishing it (kotaku, now bloomberg, and freelance), even as it has fallen on deaf ears for the better part of a decade. Activision Blizzard has been rife with frat boy culture that kotick promotes would have been a bloody nose on the new face Microsoft wants to put on the company.
Stephenie sterling has been an absolute legend covering this. Been watching the jimquisition for a long time now and i never miss an episode about kotick.
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