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funkless_eck, do games w Noooooo you can't make a microtransactions free game and finished too 😭😭😭

"what funding?"is a dumb question. all companies have funding. especially software. very few companies legit started in a basement and progressed to international status relying purely on profit and loss sheets.

Akrenion,

It is not when replying to the comment. There was no funding for being a dnd game. They are simply lying for their point.

theodewere,
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

you are ignorant.. you don't understand what he's talking about.. they are both talking about VC funding.. that means Venture Capital, which you did not know.. for some reason you are here being ignorant and loud about something you do not understand..

sadreality,

You ain't wrong but why so smug?

Learn some tact if you are actually looking to educate people

theodewere, (edited )
@theodewere@kbin.social avatar

maybe it's important, but i appreciate your feedback.. it's good for the discussion..

funkless_eck,

Larian recieved debt funding to found in 2009, late stage VC in 2011 (presumably to offset loan repayments), recieved ongoing support from Arkafund VC and has crowd funded every year 2013–2019. Tencent bought 3006 shares for 30% stake in either 2020 or '21 (not sure exact date).

caseofthematts,

Just as an FYI, the user who posted “what funding?” Works for Larian; director of publishing.

NuPNuA,

The OP intimated they received funding from WotC to make the game. They didn’t.

simple, do gaming w *Main theme starts playing*

If your horror game doesn’t do this, it loses points in my eyes. I want a final chapter that makes me think “Damn, he really is The Evil Within™”

Renacles,

The Evil Within was so close, they called it An Evil Within instead.

rickyrigatoni,

That was a hint at a sequel, since An implies more than one.

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Damn she really is Doki Doki literature club

ThatWeirdGuy1001, do gaming w Zelda tried her best
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

Wasn’t this originally princess peach?

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Yep! Here’s the reference for anyone who hasn’t played or doesn’t remember it from Mario 64.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2e927f26-a871-4611-89f1-5342b92b8f4f.jpeg

ThatWeirdGuy1001,
@ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world avatar

As sad as it is to say I’d recognize those poorly rendered clouds anywhere.

taiyang,

To add, it was a fully voiced letter. In N64 era. To young me, that blew me away (plus it was my first 3D)

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll always remember my WTF reaction to hearing Mario for the first time. “THAT’S what he sounds like? What’s wrong with him??”

Jackcooper,

Very different than the crappy animated cartoon

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

“Swing your arms from side to side…”

I would have preferred Lou Albano’s voice, although I got used to his canon voice.

sundray,

“Wha-hoo!”

ten minute coughing fit

rickyrigatoni,

He’s Italian. That’s what’s wrong with him.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

And also a castrato, apparently.

synae,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Nah, he’s an old cockney plumber from brooklyn

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

That was the last time she was referred to as Princess Toadstool. She was called her Japanese name Peach from then on.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

And then years of watching Gen Zers go back and play Super Mario World on the SNES and then wonder aloud who “Princess Toadstool” is.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar
synae,
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

What’s the reference for people who know the Mario reference but stopped playing games later in life and don’t get the Zelda reference?

(also, consider the Eowyn reference, with aragorn+stew)

Muscar,

What? Zelda and Mario have coexisted since 1986… The first game for each was only released a year apart (the first Mario game came out in 1985, first Zelda game in 1986). The Mario reference in this is from Super Mario 64, which was released in 1996. I don’t think there’s any specific Zelda game being referenced.

Everything you’ve said barely makes any sense. And there’s no LotR reference, you can’t just say “uuuh, they eat food in this too!!” and say that’s a reference.

Your whole comment is like a fever dream.

synae, (edited )
@synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Damn, why so hostile?

The root question of my comment is, why is Zelda’s saying her cake is bad vs Peach’s whose is delicious? I had to assume it’s from some newer iteration of the Zelda franchise that I’m not familiar with since the image of her appears newer than Mario 64. So if someone (me) did play Mario 64 and understood that reference, but doesn’t know the newer Zelda entries then this doesn’t entirely come together for that person (me again).

Then my mind jumped to- assuming that there is some zelda-franchise lore about her making a shitty cake, well, here is another franchise with another female character offering food to a male character with humorous undertones, and that could be used to riff on this meme that OP (or whoever) could make. “Dear Aragorn, Please come to Helm’s Deep. I’ve made a delicious stew for you. Yours truly, Eowyn” etc. Not really a stretch unless you’re artificially limiting yourself to nintendo franchises.

I may have been a bit buzzed when I posted my previous comment but I really don’t think its incoherent enough to be raked over the coals for.

Thrickles,

Yeah, this version was shared in April. No source provided, unfortunately.

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/f41785f4-2f5c-468c-a81e-7aeba3f0b4ce.webp

Kolanaki, do gaming w What a frightening suggestion...
!deleted6508 avatar

Accountable to whom? There’s no victim.

VirtualOdour,

This is a headline that idiots have been reposting forever without context - they’re taking about IN THE GAME

Donkter,

That would be hilarious. Just one CoD that drops a patch and every player who committed a war crime spends entire matches in a prison.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

they’re taking about IN THE GAME

Calling in an airstrike to win a round of Call of Duty and immediately transitioning to a JAG themed game of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney.

9point6, do gaming w Priorities

I think this is the third reference to quest 64 I’ve seen in a few days now

What is going on

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Ok, so I found a novelty account on X/Twitter (“Quest 64 Official”) that has been spreading Quest 64 memes and think it’s hilarious, so I’ve been reposting them to Lemmy.

(There will almost certainly be more)

9point6,

Okay, understood, keep up the good work

RavenFellBlade,
@RavenFellBlade@startrek.website avatar

Ooof. X? You sacrifice your mental health for the good of the many, Sir. I offer you a Spock for your efforts.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I like to think I’m immune to anything people could post from my time on the early days of the internet, but yeah, it’s like a sea of totally unfiltered opinions/content over there. There are still a lot of good fandoms, memes, news, etc., but you have to also scroll through conspiracies, political astroturfing, and every hateful thought that someone decided to write today.

Fortunately it’s not the only place I casually scour for content for the fediverse.

therealjcdenton,

You’ve officially made the most reddit comment I’ve seen in a long time

RavenFellBlade,
@RavenFellBlade@startrek.website avatar

Old Reddit before the dumpster fire was lit, I hope!

tigeruppercut,
jecht360,
@jecht360@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for that, definitely an interesting read. I like that they mention that even unpopular games may have people that love it.

Transporter_Room_3, do gaming w M for Mature
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Taking a look at my installed games list, my dream is self-sustainable communities, building an off-grid homestead, and a world where everyone’s basic needs are provided for.

It’s all building games and I like ones where you can build a small settlement with multiple people assisting in various aspects.

My only gripe with city builders is they focus too heavily on forcing US views instead of real-world examples (walkable cities aren’t viable, lack of dedicating 90% of areas to cars is penalized, zoning bs, etc)

kemsat,

Farthest Frontier is my newest addition from that genre

SeekPie,

Any recommendations/favourites?

Transporter_Room_3,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

I like mucking about in Cities Skylines with mods, that’s basically my goto when I don’t feel like playing anything else.

Right now since I got a new pc and it’s on sale, I’ve been playing fallout 4 with a bunch of settlement building mods installed. Probably not gonna be on this much longer.

Next I think I’ll give Ixion a try.

Here’s a few I spent some time on in no particular order, ranging from top-down style city management to first person settler type:

Banished

Factorio & Satisfactory

Caesar 3/Pharoah

Frostpunk

Surviving Mars

Subnautica

Medieval Dynasty

Against the storm (never could get into it, might have to give it another try)

Timberborn (didn’t get to play much, it’s on my list)

Dyson Sphere Program <— keep coming back to this one too especially now that my computer can go above 10fps

I love fallout’s settlement system, and specifically the mod Sim Settlements. I also like the idea of making a homestead for many people to live in and work together. Not many games that allow both group survival and independent building. Most that I’ve tried are like State of Decay, which is fun, but I don’t like the buildings being on rails. I like getting creative even if that means things get sloppy and disorganized.

My factory builders tend to utilize a lot of point-point logistics if available, otherwise it’s a spaghettified mess of conveyor belts and pipes. The kind that make experienced players cry and flee in terror. But they’re mine.

I’m also looking forward to seeing how good Manor Lords will be. If it looks good after a few days it’ll make a nice birthday present to myself.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

If my game preference determines how I want the world to be: I must want the world to be a fucked up, cursed wasteland where everything is in a state of constant suffering, and the best outcome is killing everyone so they at least stop suffering.

I’ll let y’all figure out what kind of games I play.

Transporter_Room_3,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Outside.

Or dark souls.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

outside

Thinking about it, real life isn’t much different than Dark Souls. But I would like the IRL monsters to look better than just a poorly re-skinned default character.

Transporter_Room_3,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

You know, I was thinking just that as I typed. “outside is kind of turning into dark souls but MORE depressing” but figured that might be pushing it. Glad to know I’m not alone.

In modern society, EVERY day is like you’re in Blighttown.

aeronmelon, do gaming w Time to play some Ogre Battle 64

Last week, I beat Super Mario 64 for the first time in almost 30 years. 120 Stars, almost all of them from memory.

Even without any kind of remake, still so colorful and stylish. Still one of the best video games ever made.

(Rainbow Ride can still eat a dick. That level is dumb.)

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I did that recently too! Although it was the version they recently released with Sunshine and Galaxy on the switch.

The game holds up.

aeronmelon,

Super Mario Super Collection, same here!

thumps chest

Now I’m working my way through Sunshine because I NEVER FINISHED IT!

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t play anything past mario 64 back in the day, unfortunately. I was a teenager and had decided to “move on” to xbox games. Playing Sunshine and Galaxy in the Super Collection was really fun though!

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the movement. Just like Super Mario Bros. before it, Mario moves much more smoothly than characters in other contemporary games at the time.

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

There’s a fan remaster! And it’s really fucking good!

Rerez - Super Mario Remasters Nintendo Didn’t Make

CatZoomies,
@CatZoomies@lemmy.world avatar

Did you drop the penguin over the edge?

snooggums, do gaming w The people who made these back in the day are heroes
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

I was always impressed by how creative the artwork made out of text were. Yeah, most were made by a program that converted pics to text, but that was automating something that was already being done and they had to pick and choose art that would convert clearly.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, people were surprisingly good at ASCII art back in the day.

dohpaz42,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

I remember in the eighth grade (1990) taking a keyboarding class (old typewriters) and we would be given assignments to do holiday-themed (turkeys, Santa Claus, Easter bunny, etc) ascii art as projects around the holidays. We were given paper instructions that would guide us on how to type out each line and with what characters. It was actually pretty fun.

dellish, do astronomy w I want to be among those who deeply thoroughly understand & can accurately predict the path of future eclipses because this is amazing.

When I was a kid my parents bought me a book called “practical astronomy with your calculator” that went over all the workings and formulae for calculating eclipses, moon phases, locations of the planets and heaps more. If you want to get into it I highly recommend this book or something similar.

dellish,

BTW the book was by Peter Duffett-Smith if that helps.

Kolanaki, do games w My wacky game made it to 4000 wishlists, have a meme as a thank you :)
!deleted6508 avatar

Is this picture from a children’s Bible or from a Jojo story board? 🤔

Road_Warrior_10,

Sorry I can’t tell you. I just saw the meme and decided to re-edit it :)

Dagnet, do gaming w What was Capcom thinking?

Travelling is a big part of dragons dogma, the danger of night fall while you travel is actually really cool. However, mtx is ALWAYS bad

RandomStickman, do gaming w I try to convince myself to use "random appearance" in games that have it now
@RandomStickman@kbin.run avatar

The worst one I've experienced is EVE Online. They had such an extensive character creation system, and I spent ages posting for the player icon, only to be staring at tables and icons.

The sky box (space box?) is pretty though.

Empricorn,

It’s… Eve Online. Even I know what the gameplay entails, and I’ve never played it. What did you think you were getting into!?

RandomStickman,
@RandomStickman@kbin.run avatar

I kinda went in to it sorta blind. At the time there was development on features that lets you walk around space stations. Also I just kinda got lost in the process and got way too in to it for some reason lol

Empricorn,

Haha, totally fair! Eve Online is just kind of famous for being a “spreadsheet simulator”. I’m sure that’s at least partly unfair but again, never played it!

solitaire,
@solitaire@infosec.pub avatar

Oh no, it’s fair.

A highly customizable table is the core of how you pilot your ship. It’s an overview that gives you a list of everything you’ve set it up to show in space around you, as well as a bunch of columns with information on said objects. Some of it is obvious and straight forward, like distance, but goes down into the minutia like transversal velocity. You can set up a bunch of presets for checking on different things.

Logistics and economy are huge parts of the game that you could mostly ignore (though at some point you’re going to open the market which is exactly as detailed and dorky as you imagine) which will prompt you to make your own actual spreadsheets at some point. Though funnily, in the 10ish years I played I never made a spreadsheet despite being notorious for doing it in other games.

There is just a ton of math and potentially useful data accessible to the player that you might want to use at some point.

My potentially hot take is the spreadsheet UI is the best, all MMOs should do it, and the worst parts of Eve’s UI are the parts that aren’t spreadsheets.

TwinTusks,

I heard of it, never dig into it, I have no idea what it does except it had something to do with space and its a MMORPG

RandomStickman,
@RandomStickman@kbin.run avatar

It's a open sandbox where there are a lot of "careers" or playstyles you can pick from. The most popular one would be joining a player corporation (guild) and fight against other corps for territory. There are miners who mine astroids for resources and sell it for money. Others use said raw materials and set up factories to refine it into different products. You can be a space trucker and haul them, or you can even be a space pirate and attack and loot said truckers. Of course there are more traditional dungeon raid esque PvE with your corp.

The (in)famous thing about EVE is that it's a space spreadsheet simulator. (It's not completely unfounded as there's an official EVE Online add on for Excel, but unless you're doing space business you don't really need it. I never did). The learning curve is also pretty steep. But it's pretty fun, and the harshness of space does create some great space friends. As they always say, the best ship in EVE is Friendship.

Vytle, do gaming w We've had a few killer games recently

Yeah when people say that, they’re talking abt AAA. 2/3 of these are indie games.People are sick of corposlop. Indie games are the only games we have left, with some exceptions.

wise_pancake, do gaming w We've had a few killer games recently

Can someone sales pitch help divers and the other one?

I’ve noticed a thriving hell diver community here and I need to decide if I want in

smokin_shinobi,

Have you seen Starship Troopers?

wise_pancake,

Yes, but I watched it on a date and I don’t remember the movie, maybe I should watch it tonight though.

smokin_shinobi,

Service guarantees citizenship.

wise_pancake,

I just finished watching Starship Troopers, I only remembered a thevstart, and the Klendathu scene with the bug butts.

Fantastic movie! The only good bug is a dead bug!

Dettweiler42,

The launch trailer is pretty good, though I honestly feel like the actual graphics at launch turned out better than the trailer showed.

In short, on one side of the war it’s Starship Troopers. On the other side, it’s the Terminator Wars. There is a developer assigned to act as a DM of sorts, and they influence the way the war unfolds while the entire community fights to achieve the goals of said war.

The game is both very fun and very challenging. It has a good balance of making you feel completely badass one moment, and then absolutely humbling you moments later. The missions can get very intense at a moment’s notice. I’ve also had a pretty good time playing with randoms, and toxicity is incredibly rare (I have yet to encounter any, myself).

wise_pancake,

Thanks, that sounds pretty cool!

Ketram,

Does it still have kernel anti-cheat?

EldritchFeminity,

Yes, though the devs have stated that replacing it is something that they’re considering as there’s still been issues with cheaters and I think they said 2 out of every 150 players were having gameplay problems directly related to the anticheat. I don’t expect to see kernel level anticheat go away completely, but I hope that they’ll at least replace it with something less nasty like Easy Anti-Cheat.

Ketram,

Yeah that was pretty much my dealbreaker for the game. Happy they are looking into it. Seems like a fun one

LeadEyes,

Everyone compares the game to starship troopers and Terminator but I haven’t seen anyone mention that the game loop is literally left4dead. I guess everyone forgot about those games.

Dettweiler42,

I could see that, with the horde shooter aspect; but you can’t call in airstrikes and orbital bombardments on top of the horde (and your friends). The missions in L4D are also linear, compared to the open area/extract method of HD2.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Helldivers is a game where you play in a squad of 1-4 (solo, friends, or it’ll pair you with randoms) to drop down to planets and try to survive against bugs or automatons while completing some objectives.

The galaxy map is dynamic, with aliens pushing from multiple directions toward “Super Earth”, and the more the entire community fights on planets, the more they’re pushed back. Planets can be liberated, or we can lose them (RIP Malevelon Creek). It’s chaotic and fun, and basically “Starship Troopers the video game”.

RGB3x3,

Ooh, that actually sounds like it kicks ass.

I love PvE of small teams against monsters way more than PvP. (Mostly because I get railed in PvP because there’s not enough time in my day to get that good).

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been having a blast with it. It really feels like you’re in a movie.

marine_mustang,

It’s a “glorious chaos” kind of game. The developers made a wide variety of explosive weapons on purpose so that things got chaotic. There is no (and never will be) PvP mode strictly speaking, but friendly fire is always on and cannot be turned off. Teammates will kill each other accidentally all the time, but there’s little penalty for dying, they just call you right back in. Seems kinda grindy to me to get to level 10 where you start to unlock much better weapons.

Cosmonaut_Collin,
@Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world avatar

If you enjoy the game, it doesn’t feel too grindy. I highly recommend playing with friends if possible. Killing each other on “accident” is incredibly fun.

calmnchaos,

And the automaton part feels like being in “Terminator the video game”

AceFuzzLord,

Well, you sold me on not playing Helldivers for the same reason I will never play Lethal Company: bug creatures.

EldritchFeminity,

You don’t ever have to deal with the bugs if you don’t want to. There’s an entire second war going on with the Automatons, and the devs have clearly left themselves room for at least 2 more factions. I guess the first game had another faction of aliens that isn’t in the game yet.

But I get it if the bugs are enough to put you off getting it, I had to essentially solo part of Elden Ring in co-op for a buddy because the hands in that game trigger his arachnophobia.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, if you don’t like bugs, you’re going to have a bad time.

cafuneandchill,

Helldivers is a game where you play in a squad of 1-4 (solo, friends, or it’ll pair you with randoms) to drop down to planets and try to survive against bugs or automatons while completing some objectives.

Wait… that’s just Deep Rock Galactic!

Zorsith,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

(With a skybox)

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

It’s very similar in a lot of good ways.

ThirdWorldOrder,

Always found DRG to be a bit boring. I know thats hearsay but Helldivers just feels a lot more alive

Sylvartas,

DRG can be hard but you can basically control every important combat variable. Helldivers gets super chaotic which makes for some really funny/awesome/desperate moments

ThirdWorldOrder,

Think you hit the nail on the head. The tension is far greater in Helldivers. I never really felt stressed in DRG… it was more zen.

Sylvartas,

Yeah, same here. I love both games but DRG satisfies my need to execute/show off with perfect maneuvers and optimize the hell out of every movement or action (both as an individual inside a team, and as a team when everyone coordinates on more “important” stuff).

Whereas helldivers is basically designed so you can definitely “play well” and have more impact, but also, unless you’re some god gamer, some stuff is gonna go completely sideways sometimes. Which also means that impactful suicidal plays can absolutely be valid !

ColeSloth,

Does it end, or is it like an everlasting thing?

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

The gameplay loop doesn’t really end. You just keep unlocking stuff as you play that you can experiment with to try to improve your armor and ship.

ColeSloth,

Thanks. I looked into it to see if it’s playable on the Steam Deck, since a lot of online games aren’t due to anti cheat software. Looks like it is playable, so I’ll see how people like playing it on the steam deck and see about picking it up.

LordOfLocksley,

I wish I had the time to invest, but with a new born I’m lucky to get 30 minutes to myself a day

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

You’ll get some time back soon! I mostly play after my little one goes to sleep for the night.

ChicoSuave,

Help divers launches helpers to a planet to help bugs and bots. Help them stop being a menace.

Plavatos,

You should know Helldivers 2 did at one point (still does?) install GameGuard, a kernal level (root kit) anti-cheat.

Developers response (from 2 months ago):

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/19dp2qw/helldivers_2_nprotect_gameguard_anticheat/

skylestia, do gaming w Just fuck off back to ranked already
@skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

one of the main reasons i stopped playing MMOs is that everyone takes end game stuff super seriously and i just don’t find it fun to be lectured on what i’m doing wrong and which meta build i should follow instead :(

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Same, it’s why I avoid games where raiding is the endgame, I’m not studying a boss on youtube before I fight it, there’s no fun in that and this is the only genre where people do it.

skylestia,
@skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

omg yes, it’s so much more fun for me to figure out how it works on my own from trial and error

snugglesthefalse,

This, when I was last doing the story in FFXIV I had a few dungeons that were like that, nobody seems to understand that I enjoy working out the mechanics through pain and doubt a lot, perpetual 170 ping from playing on na servers helps with the suffering too.

skylestia,
@skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Problem solving and overcoming challenges through your own determination and skill is really rewarding! I wish there were online communities for people like us! lol i mean i guess there probably are I just don’t know about them

Blank,

There are casual guilds out there in most games where everyone smokes weed and doesn’t really care how well the raid goes as long as everyone is chill and having fun. Harder to find, though, most guilds are full of tween turbo Chad officer’s that adhere to DKP until it’s something they want for their buddy, or alt, or they can sell for a lot.

Nithanim,

Man, one time I joined the public (pvp) raid of a well known crazy guild. Pretty sure that at least the leader had taken some stuff. The shit-talk was hilarious and they didn’t care what happened. One of the most memorable raids I had the privilege being a part of.

Theharpyeagle,

Figuring out how to solve one of the early raids in Destiny 2 was some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing a video game. Unfortunately it’s hard to get even my friends to want to go into a raid without knowing how to clear it as fast as possible. I get it, we don’t have as much time to play games as we used to, but man does it suck the fun out of things. Why even bother playing at that point?

Stamets,
@Stamets@lemmy.world avatar

This is why I stopped playing Star Trek Online with people

thehatfox,
@thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

I had a friend who would get deep into MMOs and kept trying to convince me to join. When I eventually said OK to giving one a go his next move was sending me a textbook sized guide on game’s meta. Having to start studying to play a game was a step too far for me.

skylestia,
@skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

oof I’ve had friends who liked to do research on the games they played and learn how to do things externally before coming into the game and doing the things, but if they ever expected me to do that homework I would probably have felt the same as you. I get that it must be fun for them to give themselves that homework (otherwise they wouldn’t do it right? lol) but for me I have fun by exploring, learning on my own, and overcoming challenges on my own. The only way my friends like that ever spoiled anything for me was by telling me how things worked before I had figured it out on my own or giving me items that they had learned how to get externally before I knew how it was possible etc

For me the main reason I ever played MMOs was that they seemed like an easy genre to play with friends and to find new friends in, and I did both a lot. But I just didn’t know at first that in most MMOs the main thing to do for most people is all the post-game activities lol. My fav things to do in games are usually to explore and learn the lore, which in my experience aren’t things many MMO players care much about. The last MMO I got really into was GW2, and I had helped build a guild that didn’t mind casual players, but even in that guild I couldn’t really participate in end game content because they’d still get frustrated if I didn’t follow the meta strictly. I ended up being “that guild lady” who ran overworld event trains, sometimes dungeons, and sometimes pvp, cuz everyone else who had the rank to run community schedule stuff usually only ran Fractals and Raids and I generally didn’t feel welcome in those categories since I didn’t stick to the meta. That’s not to say I didn’t like the guild, I met a lot of good friends in it and the community was overall really sweet and welcoming, it’s just that despite being essentially one of the founding members and one of the highest ranking members I still couldn’t even participate in most of the content we did without being lectured about doing it “wrong.” And after a while I just got bored and lost interest in playing it (I mean there were other reasons too but that was a big part of it), and haven’t had the motivation to really try any other MMOs since then :/ (GW2 is still probly my fav MMO though, it had a really good story and a lot of cute mounts and pets, I personally especially liked the POF expansion which had a couple big existential moments imo. But after a while it’s like well I know the story pretty well and I know the world really well so because of how I like to play games there’s just not much more for me to do anymore (thanks for coming to my TED talk))

snugglesthefalse,

I’ve been idly considering jumping back in, I was more or less up to date in late 2020 but there’s been what, 2 expacs since I last played, getting the gryphon mount was fun.

skylestia, (edited )
@skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah, End of Dragons came out in 2022 and Secrets of the Obscure came out in 2023. End of Dragons had just come out right when I was putting the game down

i’ve thought about picking it back up now and then too, but nowadays i’m mostly couch-gaming with a controller, and to my knowledge GW2 doesn’t have controller support. And finding a new guild and everything sounds overwhelming to me right now lol. The only “online” game I currently actively play is No Man’s Sky, which is probably much better suited to my general preferred playstyle. But I have no idea how to go about finding player civilizations to join lol. I also recently got Helldivers 2 to play with my bf, but it doesn’t seem like the kind of game that would be my usual cup of tea so idk how likely I’ll be to find friends/communities through it. I also recently got Sea of Thieves but so far I’ve been too shy to actually play it >.<

but you should totally play GW2 again if you want to, imo it is definitely the best MMO i ever played

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