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bstix, do gaming w Every jrpg

That shirtless guy in Morrowwind was an asshole. Sending some kid into a basement to fight giant rats well knowing that it’d be their first battle and likely not surviving, while he stayed at home shirtless and well fit to remove those pestering rats, just pretending to be an alcoholic or something.

en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Caius_Cosades

ceenote,

puffs skooma

Sorry for being a job creator, n’wah.

Snowclone,

You lazy N’wahs are all the same.

ceenote,

I’m not your n’wah, fetcher.

ArmoredThirteen,

Wasn’t that the first fighters guild quest and the rats are ground floor and in an attic?

bstix,

Maybe. It’s been a long time since I played it.

ArmoredThirteen,

I mean your whole argument still stands though because iirc correctly the first real quest he gives is the “go into the bandit filled murder robot dungeon and find a tiny ass Rubik’s cube”

IronKrill,
@IronKrill@lemmy.ca avatar

iirc correctly

RIP in peace.

ArmoredThirteen,

Damn I’m usually good about not messing that one up x.x

I’m going to head off to the ATM machine now, get cash for a French dip with au jus juice to help eat my mistakes away away

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks,

Thought you meant Saint Jiub at first, who wakes you on the boat and is also shirtless. Lots of shirtless dudes in the start of Morrowind.

Ibaudia, do gaming w And now you get the bad ending
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

Shout out to Deus Ex: Human Revolution for baiting me into thinking I could do a non-lethal playthrough and avoid combat.

There are forced boss fights in that game that require you to engage in firefights against bullet spongey enemies. I had put all my points into stealth. Not fun!!!

prof,
@prof@infosec.pub avatar

I feel you. There should have been an option to avoid those fights for the non lethal players.

Statlerwaldorf,

I feel like they did add that option but it was well after I finished it with the same problem.

techingtenor,

They did in the directors cut or whatever the revised version was called. They got so much flak for the boss fights (because they were contracted out it seems) that they redid them entirely like a year after the game came out.

sp3tr4l,

Yeah, the strat to beat them non lethal is basically unload all your massive lethal weaponry on them until they have a tiny bit of health, then tase or tranq or whatever non lethal right at the end.

Which is kind of lame, but it is basically the same as the few similar types of battles in the original Deus Ex, though some of those you can avoid various story paths or outright flee from them.

Out of curiosity… anyone know if it is even possible for Gunther to just not survive Liberty Island without you killing him?

Maybe set up TNT boxes that get shot by enemies as he escapes and blow him up? Or is he just invincible in the first level?

Trickloss,

Kinda the same with Dishonored. I finished the entire game and wondered why I didn’t get the non-lethal award.

Turns out that the tutorial that specifically told me to kill 2 guards in the beginning of the game counted.

Jessica,

I did this same thing in Undertale. I “killed” the training dummy in the tutorial and had 5xp the entire game. I was unable to do a pacifist run. I later found out you can’t do pacifist on your first run anyways so it kinda sorted itself out.

hydroptic,

I stopped playing the game after I ran into the first bullet sponge boss, tried several times to beat it with my all-stealth character and realized I’d probably have to start over

tigeruppercut,

I think they updated it at some point so stealth builds could be viable. Still a pretty big oversight for the devs to releases it initially without that consideration

ech,

If I remember right, that game also had bugs with knocked out enemies that made it just about impossible to get the non-lethal achievement (bosses don’t count towards it, fwiw).

Ibaudia,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, corpses were prone to suddenly dying. Also the non-lethal achievement literally says “except for bosses” in it lol.

ech,

I know. That bit was for those unfamiliar with game and its achievements.

GrymEdm, do gaming w How times change
Blisterexe,

Linux helps enormously to make older PCs useable

PlainSimpleGarak,

We get it. Linux is the greatest thing ever. Good grief.

Ashelyn,

Who would win: Bloatware on mass produced pre-builts, or a thumb drive with Windows Media Creation kit?

Dagnet, do gaming w I may have said this before...

FF14 has an insane amount of filler in every quest. Sooooo many times you need to travel to whole different area just to have some completely inconsequential chat with an npc or they break a simple task into 10 steps with a long ass cast time that doesn’t show your character doing anything. I will say the story is (after a while) quite good.

quilan,

“Pray return to the waking sands” PTSD intensifies

Veritrax,

At least they give new players aetheryte tickets to teleport directly to the waking sands now. No more teleporting to Horizon and taking public transit like some kind of peasant.

Evotech,

It’s just so much clicking. Go here click this guy click that guy.

It’s not that bad of you stay current at all times, you can do a bit of story here and there, its released in chunks outside of the large expansions.

But if you take a break for a year. Fuck me. It’s just never ending. I just want to raid…

Evotech,

It’s just so much clicking. Go here click this guy click that guy.

It’s not that bad of you stay current at all times, you can do a bit of story here and there, its released in chunks outside of the large expansions.

But if you take a break for a year. Fuck me. It’s just never ending. I just want to raid…

Dagnet,

Yeah, the barrier for entry for new players is insane too. This guy once bought the game and he is like “Gonna rush through the story so lets play some dungeons next week”, yeahhh… nah, you are gonna play with us in a month maybe more. Also, you posted this comment twice, might wanna delete the other.

kinther, do gaming w Many are worth checking out
@kinther@lemmy.world avatar

Fallout 1 and 2 are some of my all time favorite games. Absolutely would recommend playing them.

SkyNTP,

Fallout 1 & 2 are better than Fallout 3 & 4.

zedgeist,

This is the coldest take I’ve ever seen.

FlihpFlorp,

As someone who and only played 4 this checks out

Semi-Hemi-Demigod, do games w What game fits this?
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Just one more turn, man. That's all I need. Then Ghandi will pay. C'mon man I'll go to sleep right after, I promise.

Pyro,

Gandhi*

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Motherfucker nuked my capital I'll spell his name any way I goddamn please

Pyro,

Better give him some respect if you don’t want your cities razed to the fucking ground.

blackstampede, do gaming w New insult dropped

It’s not clear exactly why Hanzo has such a bad reputation, but it probably has to do with the fact that he’s a character who requires a highly skilled player to really be effective. Unlike other characters, Hanzo tends to work best as a lone wolf, so there’s often the perception that he’s not really contributing to the team’s composition as a whole. This becomes particularly irksome when a team has a hole in its composition that so desperately needs to be filled, but that last person on the team decides to go for Hanzo instead

Article here. I don’t play overwatch, so I didn’t get it.

GrumpyFortuneCat,

A Hanzo Main is an insult Overwatch players throw around when one of their teammates exclusively plays the archer — Hanzo Shimada — regardless of the situation or how they’re playing.

Diehard fans of the archer will select him even when he’s clearly a poor choice, and refuse to switch characters if they’re struggling to find their mark and everyone else on their team is begging them to switch. To make matters worse, the most toxic Hanzo Mains are notorious for blaming their team for losing a game, even when it was clearly their unwillingness to cooperate that led to defeat.

I had to look it up too. Here is the article.

Dagnet,

Your explanation is actually good, the first article the other guy linked is trying so hard to justify bad hanzo players it’s funny.

Overwatch literally pings every time someone kills another, hanzo is a sniper, if he is good EVERYONE IN THE MATCH will notice. Good Hanzo players don’t play away from their teams, their range compared to Widow is low and they don’t have great disengage skills, they need their team to peel for them. A lone hanzo is a dead hanzo 90% of the time

Varyk,

Thanks, I was hoping someone had left a relevant comment.

WarmSoda, do gaming w Might as well have a neon sign

I enjoy how all of the thieves guilds in ESO are these gigantic caves directly under every city. If ES6 doesn’t have multiple cities destroyed by thieves guild sink holes I’m going be upset.

Tamriel is made of Swiss cheese.

teft,
@teft@startrek.website avatar

Tamriel also has magic…

WarmSoda,

Hmm maybe levitation was banned because it’s all being used to keep cities in place

KeefChief13,

Im worried about ES6.

WarmSoda,

Me too brother. Me too.

scrubbles, do games w Starfield has some beautiful landscapes!
!deleted6348 avatar

Man I’m real tired of the constant negativity around new games. I rarely see positive stuff online.

You don’t like a game? Just move on. Hell, downvotes and move on. But leaving comments on things like screenshots about how idiotic a game is, man find something else to do.

I agree OP, it is a gorgeous game. The landscapes are incredibly striking

distantsounds,

It does help those on the fence make a more informed decision whether to purchase or not. Just whitewashing with only positive reviews and comments is misleading and stifles innovation. Trolling and opinions without examples suck and should be ‘downvoted.’

BG3 has plenty of bugs but has glowing reviews for a new game. People should be able to voice their opinions without attacking other users and receive the same in return.

I have put in over 50 hours and enjoy this game, but would definitely NOT recommend it to someone who isn’t familiar with Bethesda’s other titles.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

There’s a thousand places to leave negative reviews. I’m just annoyed at the “Hey look X game has a cool thing” and the immediate “You enjoy X game? You’re an idiot for finding enjoyment out of this, you’re stupid, look how cool I look for shitting on it”. It’s transparent and annoying.

Voice your opinions sure, but if all you do though is shit on people for enjoying something, then that’s a dick move.

Confuzzeled,

I don’t think anybody is shitting on anyone. It’s a public forum and we’re all allowed to say what we think. How shallow would the discourse be if we were limited to only talking about things positively? Everyone has their own tastes. I played through and enjoyed cyberpunk a couple of months after launch at a time when it was roundly shat upon but it didn’t spoil the game for me.

eochaid,
@eochaid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think anybody is shitting on anyone It’s a public forum and we’re all allowed to say what we think How shallow would the discourse be if we were limited to only talking about things positively?

It doesn’t matter what you think. Try posting something positive about starfield - even in the Starfield community. You will get shat on. A lot.

The problem isn’t that negativity doesn’t have a space, its that positivity doesn’t have a space. If someone posts something positive and gets shit on, they’re going to be less likely to post positive things in the future. Or react to negativity with their own positivity. That’s how psychology works. We do a thing and get a shock, we’ll be less likely to do it again.

But more importantly, a lot of negative nancies on the internet love to defend yukking on other’s yums with lofty goals around “discourse” and “free speech”. But they seem to forget that’s not how the real world or human psychology works. This post isn’t looking for “discourse”. OP is just saying " wow this game has cool vistas" maybe hoping for some stories or reinforcement or fun conversations with other fans and you all are responding with “game sucks”. What is this “discourse” supposed to accomplish other than, at best piss off OP, and at worst tear down his enjoyment of the game.

I mean think about it. What if someone were showing off a coat they brought and like with some randos, and you waltz in and are like “that coat’s fucking ugly and you should feel bad about buying it.” What kind of discourse would you expect other than “the hell? Who asked you? Fuck off”.

Sure, we’re all entitled to post and reply what we want, but it won’t stop us from calling you an asshole. You want to shit on a game? Go for it, there’s plenty of hate circlejerks you can join in on.

Confuzzeled,

I was specifically meaning that I didn’t think anyone was shitting on anybody here in this thread. I didn’t say the game sucked or that it’s fucking ugly or any of those other hyperbolic statements. I read somebody else’s thoughts on the game and provided my own. I agree the game can look very good, I said I really enjoyed some of the quests. I’m not a part of the starfield community, I’m not trying to piss on anybodies parade. I just like playing games and talking about games I’ve played.

eochaid, (edited )
@eochaid@lemmy.world avatar

Right, because the people who are paid to review the full game over hundreds of hours and have spent, in many cases, years, analyzing their biases and determining the right way to construct objective criticsm and have peer review editors to check their work…

Nah. Randos on the internet who have tendancy to form circlejerks for fake internet points and for minor doses of dopamine and who may or may not have even completed even a tiny portion of the game - that’s what I need to make an informed decision.

EDIT Lol at the coward downvotes with no replies. You know I’m right, you just don’t want to admit it.

ArmoredCavalry,
@ArmoredCavalry@lemmy.world avatar

Just makes me wonder if the same thing happens in other communities. Say someone posts a photo of a National Park, are there replies how they’ve hiked most of the trails at that park and decided it’s not worth visiting?

I can see both sides too, “well we are informing people about the cons of that park, so they aren’t eaten by the vicious bears!”. I get that, I do! People have an opinion they want to share, nothing really wrong with that. Does that understanding make it enjoyable for me as the person just sharing the photo? Not so much…😂

Send_me_nude_girls,
@Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de avatar

You have this a lot in Apple user dooming Android, just to never get out of the golden cage.

HellAwaits, do games w Noooooo you can't make a microtransactions free game and finished too 😭😭😭

Honestly, this kind of pleading from the other AAA developers is just making them look pathetic. Yes, it’s reasonable not to expect BG3 for every AAA games, but it’s not because of time and money, but simply because developers are just not always going to make lightning strike twice. But these devs have plenty of time and money and they look terrible in comparison to a dev that took it’s time to make sure it was well polished before release.

pachrist,

Exactly. Every new game doesn’t have to be an instant classic that breaks new ground. But they should be functional, playable, and have enough polish to be considered finished. That doesn’t necessarily mean bug free, but we all know what a finished game looks like, and what one doesn’t.

The worst one I’ve ever personally played was the Lego Hobbit game. My wife and I used to line up kamikaze shots and play Lego games, figuring a child and a drunk adult were about the same level. The game stops when Smaug flies out of the mountain. Roll credits. I guess the last movie did so poorly that they never bothered making the rest of the game.

Karyoplasma,

For ages, AAA games were classed as such by brand recognition, not by quality. Inevitably, they devolved into being just a platform to sell microtransactions. The shareholders want their dividents and the CEO needs a new yacht with coke and hookers.

It’s too easy to exploit the dopamine rush playing the new, official installment of a well-known series. Even if it’s terrible, the customers get their joy by ranting about how trash the game is and how they hope the next one will be better. BG3 being an actual game does not change anything and will not reset expectations.

Gork,

That’s sad because TT’s games were quite good, I think they hit their apex at Lego Marvel Superheroes 1. Awesome open world, a ton of characters, and lots of exploration in addition to the normal level quests.

ArbitraryValue, (edited ) do gaming w Nintendo admitted this recently

sigh

It’s well-known that emulators are legal. See Sony v. Connectrix from 2000. Emulators for various Nintendo systems are freely available.

The emulators that were sued were not sued simply because they were emulators.

Blackmist, do games w I hate when a PC game is ONLY available on Epic Games store

Valve kills physical ownership of games: I sleep

Games exclusive to Origin: I sleep

Games exclusive to whatever the fuck Blizzard made: I sleep

Games exclusive to Microsoft Store: I sleep

Games exclusive to Epic: REAL SHIT

bonfire921,

Its because the other exclusives are the devs/publishers launcher. While epic was actively seeking those 1year exclusivity deals to get more users on the platform.

Blackmist,

So it would be better if it was a permanent exclusivity deal, like traditional publishers have?

They’ve been paying out in advance in some cases (Epic Mega Grants, I think) so the devs can finish the game. That’s basically the definition of what publishers do, but when Epic do it it’s somehow “not publishing”?

bonfire921,

Well it really depends how you look at it. For the devs it’s better in terms of how much they get per purchase given that epic takes a lower cut than steam, IIRC 15% as opposed to 30%.

But many users hate epic as a platform seeing how it’s not as mature in features, and probably just pure love of steam.

What I’m actually wondering about is if it’s worth signing the exclusivity deal seeing how some people will not bother buying a game on a platform they hate or do enough people purchase for it to even out and even gain a larger profit.

WhyJiffie,

steam and valve has also been generally more respectful with users than mostly any other online business, not even just in the space of online software stores. of course it’s not all rainbows and glitter but the point stands.

_cryptagion,

I don’t give any attention to the arguments that Steam is “more mature” in regards to features, when the vast majority of users don’t use those features to begin with. Steam has all the community features (and more) of Discord, but I would wager most of the fanboys in this thread don’t even know about that, or where to find those community features, let alone actually use them.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

medium.com/…/why-i-turned-down-exclusivity-deal-f…

They waited until a game previously announced for Steam was finished development and had a launch date, then tried to bribe them with an exclusivity deal to not provide the game on the platform they promised to backers.

They weren’t paying a damn thing for development, just to eliminate consumer choice. Instead of, you know, providing a better service in some way so people want to purchase from you instead.

kworpy, (edited )

don’t hide the full story, they pay devs millions to keep their games exclusive to epic for a year. that is an extremely scummy business practice that you are rewarding and encouraging if you buy from this shitfest of a platform

Blackmist,

When Half Life 2 launched, you had to register your game with Steam before you could play it. You had to give up your physical ownership of the product, and lock it to yourself. You couldn’t sell it to anyone else, or even let them play it.

That’s what you were encouraging by buying from that shitfest of a platform.

I really don’t see how bunging devs money for publishing rights is worse. The devs clearly don’t see it that way.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

You couldn’t sell it to anyone else, or even let them play it.

Epic lets you sell your games to someone else?

As to your 2nd point I play my friend’s games all the time. I haven’t purchased Satisfactory but have almost 100% it on Steam playing my friend’s copy.

Blackmist,
  1. No. You can with physical. Well, before that just meant a steam key with a disc.
  2. That come much later. Try to keep up.
CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

So we’re talking about everything except this moment in time?

  1. Epic doesn’t have disks either so it’s irrelevant to the discussion of Epic games. If you want to complain about eliminating physical media try talking about it in regards to someplace that actually sells physical media.

If Steam is bad because no physical media then so is Epic.

  1. But I guess Epic is okay because of how things are right now right? but I shouldn’t bring up how things are on Steam right now? In direct comparison?

Pick an era in time you would like to complain about, and if it’s the early 2000s then go bitch to people in the early 2000s. I’m sure many of them are complaining about the loss of physical media. People still used Steam anyway and now it’s the norm. Now people are complaining about exclusivity deals, if people still use Epic anyway then that will become the norm.

Zoomboingding,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

they pay devs millions

I mean I see this as a good thing. I have to keep a separate launcher around but… at least that dev is getting a great deal and will probably be able to support that game for a while (or start their next one)

Cris16228,

Yeah and get in return like 10 players? Only who has no faith in their game sells it to the demon

Blackmist,

There are apparently 270 million Epic Store accounts made.

Now most of them don’t buy anything and are probably installed on a whim for one free game ad now they’ve forgot their password, while a good chunk of them are probably 12 year olds playing Fortnite who don’t even look at it and hurl all their pocket money into V-bucks so the rest of us get free games, but it’s not an insignificant amount.

Cris16228,

You know it also counts ghost accounts made while linking your steam to epic or when you use a game with EOS and it creates a dummy account yee?

like 10 players

Buying the game. I thought it was obvious but I guess not

_cryptagion,

You don’t even need to do that. Use Heroic and you can combine Epic, GOG, and Amazon into one launcher.

_cryptagion,

They’re paying indie devs millions to remain exclusive for a year. What’s scummy is the Steam fanboys who see that and think it’s better for gamers if those games just aren’t financially successful.

Cyv_,

-Valve didn’t kill ownership it was already dead. DLC has been pulled, and games delisted, as well as games made unplayable by server shutdowns. They just happened to be the platform who told you to your face what you were getting into while everyone else lied and said the game was yours until it wasn’t. They also say they’ll provide downloads for a time if they ever shut down, but if you want that long term guarantee you’re probably better off looking at GOG and some kind of data storage for the installers.

-Origin is shit and I hate EA/Origin exclusives too, but it’s basically a launcher for their own games which I understand, but still prefer steam to be included too, so much of the time I avoid EA games (i avoid them for a lot of reasons tbh)

-Battle.net started as a unified launcher for blizzard games, which sort of made sense as they never worked with or were involved with steam, and many of their games were disc based or had its own installer. Subscriptions specifically I don’t think existed with steam for a while so that was sort of a complicating factor. Still wish their games were on steam, but it sort of made sense at its inception.

-I don’t even use the microsoft store unless forced to, I find it annoying and bleh. They’re forcing more games to it and it’s shitty too.

-Epic is annoying, but it’s a special kind of annoying because for many games early on, they would announce steam as a supported platform, some even sold the game on steam, until they changed to Epic exclusives. I think Fall Guys was one example. The bait and switch really lost them trust with a lot of gamers and you’ll find the attitude towards them can be pretty bad because of that history.

Add in that many of the games aren’t published by them, they just threw money at the publisher or devs to make their games epic exclusive. This can be good for developers, like an upfront investment, but sucks for gamers who like to keep things somewhat unified in terms of a game library. Especially when you already have to deal with 5 other launchers, another arbitrary one is pretty annoying.

If you’re wondering why people want their games on steam, look at the features. Free cloud save backups, a decent amount of free screenshot backups, in game recording is new and pretty neat, achievements, community marketplaces, frequent sales, family sharing, steam workshop for easy integrated modding, discussions and guides for all your games, early access games, built in friends, text chat, voice chat, remote play together, game streaming, etc.

TLDR: It isn’t an “oh epic stinky just because” situation. The Epic game store simply doesn’t have feature parity, bait and switched gamers multiple times with exclusives after games were advertised as being on steam, and basically survived on throwing money at devs to put their games exclusively on EGS, at the expense of the people who want to play those games on their chosen platform. Doesn’t shock me that they don’t have a lot of positive PR in the community.

WhyJiffie,

Valve kills physical ownership of games: I sleep

kills? most of them work with a steam emu, even offline. that’s not even cracking. most of those that don’t have a different limitation.

with a steam emu you can do whatever you want with the game files, often you can put it on your pendrive and play it as a portable game (the right goldberg emu settings allow game data to be stored near the game files instead of appdata)

nesc,

So much this

AustralianSimon,
@AustralianSimon@lemmy.world avatar

I’m OK if you own the game you are making exclusive to your platform. Bribing devs is shitty practice. They also sit and wait for a game’s early access to gain momentum on Steam first before offering them money to leave.

_sideffect, do games w Why are $70 AAA games slashing prices so drastically?

These are old games

The price regularly seen is just there to make them seem that they have more value than they actually do

TheNetGoblin, do games w Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D is out and it is beautiful

60 dollar remake game with denuvo on it, no thanks I’ll pass no matter how good it is.

MimicJar, do gaming w What more could we possibly ask for?
@MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

This image is a fantasy.

No one had four grey controllers.

Show me some red, green and “translucent” purple.

Also one of the control sticks should be broken.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

That’s pretty spot on for my experience. I only had 3: 1 gray, 1 red, and 1 translucent purple off brand.

(edit: the red one was the one with a drifty joystick, but for some reason it was my favorite)

ZombiFrancis,

We were grey, yellow, and offbrand black that had a semi-functional turbo mode and the joystick would reverse if you pushed too hard on it.

A 4th was always supplied by the rare potential 4th player

pjwestin,
@pjwestin@lemmy.world avatar

On a related note, they can now refurbish your N64 conrollers with mini GameCube joysticks and they’re fucking SICK.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Theyre not as good as the original sticks though. Bigger deadzone and a different gate. Cool, but not a very accurate replacement. Steel Sticks is a better, if more exclusive, option.

pjwestin,
@pjwestin@lemmy.world avatar

Huh, haven’t had any issues with deadzone. If anything, the deadzone is too small, especially on Goldeneye, where the sensitivity felt way too high for the software. But I found it a super smooth upgrade for pretty much everything else, especially Kart and platformers. I just looked up those steel sticks though, and they look awesome! I bet that has a nice, authentic feel to it.

myrrh,

(i still have my original four grey controllers with rumble packs for the lot)

MimicJar,
@MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

And you probably never had to blow into the cartridge to make it work.


Alternatively…

THE CHOSEN ONE!

myrrh,

…no, cartridges hadn’t yet been invented for my first console and my first NES was actually the mid-nineties redesign, so i never experienced blowing dust off the contacts…

…i did get to play with ROM-swap developer cartridges on my atari 2600, though…

doingthestuff,

I’ve had twelve controllers and my original translucent purple one from when I bought it new is still the best one.

toynbee, (edited )

That’s not four grey controllers.

That’s one grey controller and three grey d-pads.

edit: That word shouldn’t have been plural.

MimicJar,
@MimicJar@lemmy.world avatar

That actually explains how Goro kept kicking my ass.

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