Honestly if it’s a game where the difficulty is structured around teaching you a skill then the the devs response is actually kinda on point (while also funny). It’s like someone submitting a complaint that the piano is too difficult and the skill bar should be lowered so that they shouldn’t have to just practice and learn to play like everybody else. But I could be wrong (I usually am)
Regarding the griftmaybe the developer just made this for fun and published for others to enjoy? It doesn’t seem like this needs any new features or much maintenance, that would also explain the response on discord: the dev doesn’t care if people like the game or not, it is what it is
As they should. Sometimes indie games should just be art.
My games (really shitty demos), I’m personally not interested in building a audience or getting mass attention. I just wanna make the game in my head and if it kicks ass for others, sweet.
Git off discord tho for game development, it ends up causing only the types of people who are really active on discord to interact and give feedback and I have seen that really send some games off the rails as the rest of the playerbase begins to get the vibe the game is being developed for a small sliver of the game’s fans (the ones on discord and really active).
Seriously. Definitely gives the loudest a place to control how games should work. And when they don’t get their way, they get loud in other places and make drama.
Any dev worth their salt knows to balance and weigh the feedback across all channels. Discord is easy for quick troubleshooting and frequently asked questions. I see devs have some issues with Steam forums because of the toxicity, but most still take feedback from there too.
Usually Discord is just a funnel to redirect feedback to an internal backlog though. Together with all the other channels, including in-game reporting tools.
Any dev worth their salt knows to balance and weigh the feedback across all channels. Discord is easy for quick troubleshooting and frequently asked questions.
I am sure most devs who primarily interact with their game’s community through discord believe they are listening to feedback from a variety of sources, but it is clear to me in every case I know of where a game has “join our discord!” plastered all over the store page that functionally the only place where your feedback will actually be taken seriously and get to the devs is discord.
That might just be the instant chat nature of Discord and how it’s easier to get a reply on there. I’m sure if you went the classic route of sending email it would be acknowledged as well, generally speaking.
One of the biggest mistakes I keep seeing devs make is listening to the no-lifers who live on social media. Especially the content whiners: fuck content, make the game work right first.
Speaking from experience giving the loudest users real time access to your sanity isn’t great either. Better to corral them into a slower mode of communication, such as an old fashion forum or use githubs “discussions” feature. Then you can spend your weekend on unwinding without a bunch of kids screeching that they’ve been ignored because you missed some message that was checks notes 200 paragraphs of back scrolling.
p.s. its 1000x worse when you inherit this kind of “community” from someone before you who let the monkeys do whatever. All I can say is thank god discord has that slow-mode feature now.
I quite like how Sniper elite handles this. As you are tagging enemies, small snippets about them pop up. So the Nazi you have in your scopes might love jazz music even though it’s illegal, or might draw caricatures of his fellow soldiers that give them some light hearted relief or might have tried out for the ss and failed the medical and takes his anger out on the locals.
It genuinely changes how I play the game. If they seem like they are just someone caught in the Nazi machine I tend to spare them if I can but I make pretty sure to end the true believers.
Finding time for them has become more difficult. The kids dont typically play great games. Its fun to play some things with them but by the 3rd lego game I was done, its so repetitive. I keep playing stuff like that to entertain them, not really to entertain me. Playing more adult games requires setting up a separate space or waiting for kiddos to be in bed, and man I’m too old to stay up so late. I still enjoy them and haven’t grown out of them completely, but in a sense I sort of have just because of competing responsibilities that win the fight for my time.
I feel this, I have a Steam Deck that allows me 30 minutes to an hour of play at a time with the ability to pause and resume games when other responsibilities come up. This allows me the separate space but I can always plug it back in to the TV and play with my children. Of course I play mostly single player games these days so it’s not a fit for online multiplayer games.
It’s gotten harder to find games that don’t feel repetitive or similar to other games I’ve played. I think that’s part of the joy of gaming for kids - it’s all new experiences.
I find myself appreciating unique indie games now, especially if they don’t try to consume all my time. I don’t get much out of a 100hr open world game where I have to collect 500 keys since I already did that in so many other games.
Another thing to do is just go back and look at older games. A lot of them fell through the cracks over the years. Like Arcanum: Of steamworks and magic only problem is half the forum posts are in polish or written cyrillic and the best guide is an ancient ass website I need to archieve.
Yeah. I set up the PS5 next to my work station at home and am on my fourth play through of Cyberpunk. I often play between or even during boring meetings.
Taking a look at my installed games list, my dream is self-sustainable communities, building an off-grid homestead, and a world where everyone’s basic needs are provided for.
It’s all building games and I like ones where you can build a small settlement with multiple people assisting in various aspects.
My only gripe with city builders is they focus too heavily on forcing US views instead of real-world examples (walkable cities aren’t viable, lack of dedicating 90% of areas to cars is penalized, zoning bs, etc)
I like mucking about in Cities Skylines with mods, that’s basically my goto when I don’t feel like playing anything else.
Right now since I got a new pc and it’s on sale, I’ve been playing fallout 4 with a bunch of settlement building mods installed. Probably not gonna be on this much longer.
Next I think I’ll give Ixion a try.
Here’s a few I spent some time on in no particular order, ranging from top-down style city management to first person settler type:
Banished
Factorio & Satisfactory
Caesar 3/Pharoah
Frostpunk
Surviving Mars
Subnautica
Medieval Dynasty
Against the storm (never could get into it, might have to give it another try)
Timberborn (didn’t get to play much, it’s on my list)
Dyson Sphere Program <— keep coming back to this one too especially now that my computer can go above 10fps
I love fallout’s settlement system, and specifically the mod Sim Settlements. I also like the idea of making a homestead for many people to live in and work together. Not many games that allow both group survival and independent building. Most that I’ve tried are like State of Decay, which is fun, but I don’t like the buildings being on rails. I like getting creative even if that means things get sloppy and disorganized.
My factory builders tend to utilize a lot of point-point logistics if available, otherwise it’s a spaghettified mess of conveyor belts and pipes. The kind that make experienced players cry and flee in terror. But they’re mine.
I’m also looking forward to seeing how good Manor Lords will be. If it looks good after a few days it’ll make a nice birthday present to myself.
If my game preference determines how I want the world to be: I must want the world to be a fucked up, cursed wasteland where everything is in a state of constant suffering, and the best outcome is killing everyone so they at least stop suffering.
I’ll let y’all figure out what kind of games I play.
Thinking about it, real life isn’t much different than Dark Souls. But I would like the IRL monsters to look better than just a poorly re-skinned default character.
You know, I was thinking just that as I typed. “outside is kind of turning into dark souls but MORE depressing” but figured that might be pushing it. Glad to know I’m not alone.
In modern society, EVERY day is like you’re in Blighttown.
There are certain video games that I feel like I’ve outgrown, but I will never outgrow video games as a whole. That’s like saying you’ll outgrow movies.
I wouldn’t say that. At some point, you may just lose interest. I used to be playing all day, but during my 20s interest faded and now in my 30s, I maybe play some old games for a few hours here and there, but more for nostalgia. If I couldn’t play any games anymore, I wouldn’t say I would be terribly sad.
Maybe it’s different for you. People are different, after all.
To your point, I’ve found storytelling to become fairly predictable as I age. Not that I didn’t watch shows or movies anymore. There’s a comfort in knowing what comes next and enjoying the art of visual storytelling and good acting. It also makes shows/movies that defy expectation that much better. Not “subvert expectations done poorly” like later seasons of GoT. More like (Andor spoilers)
! when Nemik dies. I know Cassian is the Reluctant Hero™. I know he’ll need a catalyst to galvanize his will and purpose. As soon as Nemik came on screen with his fresh face and youthful enthusiasm I thought “yeah he dies by the end of ACT II, and Cassian will be so moved by his sacrifice he’ll become a rebel”. But he died and Cassian was all “Yeah that sucks. Gonna take my money and bail.” !<
I have many negative options of this show. Ultimately, while Lucy was…okay… Norm and chet had my favorite dynamic and didn’t act like complete morons most of the time.
They seemed to have set out with the intention of making the BoS a slapstick comedy rayher than a serious player consisting of intelligent humans. Especially Knight Titus and Maximus felt like horribly written characters.
I understand them going for humor but… I feel the slapstick nature of it really took away my enjoyment of it.
While fallout has had humor in it, I felt it was backseat to the actual atmosphere of its story of surviving the wasteland. In the series, slapstick seems to be all it is.
Also I don’t understand why they added the thing about ghouls.
What, the one who’s name starts with K, in the ‘Following the thread’ quest? I let him live for the sake of his family, same as I reversed the Nithing in the quest of the same name, as the son doesn’t deserve to die for the sins of the father
No I dont think that is the one. Its the guy who killed a whole village except for one child because they tried to kill him after he got rid of the monster attacking them.
In fact, I usually try to avoid getting into fights or uneccessary violence, the only exceptions being killing Whoreson Junior, and getting into a fight in that inn in Skellige over the ‘law of hospitality’, which didn’t end well.
I usually kill him. Geralt tries to comfort him by mentioning his Butcher moniker, but they’re not at all the same circumstances. What he does is inexcusable, regardless of the girl he spares.
Killed the guys who betrayed him, and dared the village to do something about it. Axxiid them walk off a cliff, burn down their barn. I’m sure there’s plenty of alternative options for a Witcher without slaughtering everyone.
I’ve been a gamer since the 70s. Started with pong, Atari 2600, Atari 800 with basic… Compute magazine where games weren’t included on media, it was 5 pages of code you had to type in to play the game …
I keep telling young people the reason you have these awesome titles today is because of my generation playing fucking pac man.
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