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AWittyUsername, do games w Nexus Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod

Sorry this is stupid all round. People are stupid for getting annoyed that you can set pronouns in a game, but Nexus are stupid for removing the mod that allows players the ability to if THEY wish to choose so.

Nexus just hosts the mod, if anybody is offended they could just not download it.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Hosting implies complacency. They have to draw a line somewhere, and the longer they wait, the harder it becomes. This was obviously a bigoted mod, and even though it could be considered “harmless” to leave up, it leaves the door open for further mods. These bigots will not stop slowly eroding away features they think are “woke”, and they will only get worse and more egregious. Stopping them now, letting them know it’s not acceptable behavior, is the only way to end it.

librechad, (edited )

Hey bud, don’t tell me how I should play the game I spent my hard earned money on. If I want to remove a certain feature I don’t like, you and I both should have the freedom to do so.

samson,

You have the freedom to do so. Start your own hosting site or learn to code. Nexus doesn’t have to host shit they want to. Stop being a bitch and forcing those to do what you want.

librechad, (edited )

What I was trying to convey is that gamers should have the freedom to customize their gaming experience based on their preferences. It’s not about forcing anyone to do anything, but rather having the option to make changes if we want to. It’s all about personal choice and freedom in how we enjoy our games.

Removing a harmless mod is a slippery slope because then moderators are just removing mods based on their political ideolagy. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

I love that you are so dense that you are arguing for the freedom of choice, while trying to take away other’s freedom of choice. Fucking hell, bud.

librechad, (edited )

When a mod is removed entirely, the choice is taken away from everyone, limiting the overall freedom for customization. The aim should be to find a balanced approach that respects both individual freedom and community guidelines.

I acknowledge they have a freedom not to host the mod. But, coming from someone who’s used Nexus Mods for the past 6-7 years, it’s sad to see them start to take this route. We can have a mod to kill children but god forbid we have a remove pronouns mod.

I’m stating my own opinion on the situation, I’m not forcing them to reupload the mod. I’m just trying to debate with you guys. Would you like to debate or no?

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

No, I would not like to debate. Debating would be futile. I’ve looked through your comment history, and I don’t believe that it would be worth my time. You want to bitch and complain cause the woke police are coming after your vidyas, then go for it, but you are on the wrong side of the argument, and you won’t find many good-hearted people over there. Life is hard enough as it is. I implore you to rethink your positions on pronouns, gender identity, and sexual identity. Those that appreciate choices like these in the game are the people that are having some of the hardest times in their lives. They don’t need you to come in and tell them that you feel like their decisions aren’t valid, especially when it has zero actual affect on your life. Don’t want to set a pronoun? Then fucking don’t. That’s your choice. But when you support mods and the bigots that create them that try to limit the abilities of those that need to have some comfort in their life, those that need to know that society is moving towards a broader acceptance of their identity, then you are the bad person, and that’s how the world at large sees you. Be a better fucking person than that.

librechad, (edited )

I agree that platforms like Nexus Mods have a responsibility to consider the broader societal impact of the content they host. However, they also have a responsibility to preserve the freedoms that have made such platforms valuable to so many. The challenge lies in finding a balanced approach, which is never easy.

It’s worth mentioning that I fully support your right to view and critique mods based on their societal impact. At the same time, it should be acceptable for others to evaluate these mods based on different criteria, such as user freedom, without being labeled as “bad persons.”

Would it not be more constructive for us to have an open dialogue on how to balance these competing interests rather than dismissing each other’s viewpoints outright?

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Would it not be more constructive for us to have an open dialogue on how to balance these competing interests rather than dismissing each other’s viewpoints outright?

No, I don’t want an open dialogue with bigots.

librechad, (edited )

OK fine, I don’t want to argue with someone who’s obviously closed minded and can’t debate on simple issues.

Keep it classy bro.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Fine. We’ll keep it simple and set the facts. I’ll even let you define the problem. Tell me. What does this mod do?

samson,

There’s no slippery slope. It’s a hosting site and they can host what they want. If you don’t like that go mod and upload to your heart’s content on another site. You have that personal choice and freedom. They have choice and freedom to tell you to fuck off just like I do. Fuck off.

InEnduringGrowStrong,
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

Removing a harmless mod is a slippery slope because then moderators are just removing mods based on their political ideolagy. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

Removing a harmless feature is a slippery slope because then modders are just removing features based on their political ideology. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

It’s just as ridiculous the other way around though.

librechad, (edited )

You’re point is valid about the two-way street that is ideological moderation, whether it’s done by modders or platform moderators. While some argue that removing certain features serves to make a political statement, the same could be said for removing mods themselves. Both actions can be seen as influenced by the ideological beliefs of those making the decisions. In this case, the main question is: who gets to decide what crosses the line and what doesn’t? And should these decisions be open to discussion within the community?

AreaSIX,

You’re still free to remove what you don’t like, but you’re not entitled to have the mod hosted on any site you want. The site owners decide that, and they don’t want it on their site. That’s not infringing on your freedom, but forcing it to be hosted on their site would indeed infringe on the site owner’s freedom.

kazakhspy,

We can play the slippery slope game both ways. You say: if you dont remove a harmless mod, then bigots will start adding harmful mods.

I say: if we let moderators remove harmless mods because of their political ideology, they will start removing more and more mods that are not made by bigots, but disagree with moderators politics. Like for example, if player wants to play as a billionaire and exploit poor workers.

How about instead of playing the slippery slope, we just deal with actual harmful mod as they come. I mean, ffs, there is a mod that lets you kill children in Skyrim. Is removing pronoun selector really worse than that?

mindbleach,

I mean, ffs, there is a mod that lets you kill children in Skyrim. Is removing pronoun selector really worse than that?

Yes.

The people this bigotry hurts are not in the game. They’re real. And they’re the only possible target of removing a checkbox that most people won’t even notice.

mindbleach,

We can play the slippery slope game both ways.

And be wrong.

One way is how trolls always escalate, because their entire fucking deal is pissing people off for attention.

The other is a textbook fallacy that plainly has not happened, since the last time Nexus removed some right-wing bigotry signal. This is not the first time. This won’t be the last time. The line will stay about where it is, because they don’t want to deal with this woe-is-us horseshit unless they have to.

chemical_cutthroat,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

You see, there’s the problem. You have politicized gender and sexual identity. Don’t bring your politics into the natural world.

Electricd, do games w [Update: Valve Responds] Mastercard Denies Pressuring Steam To Censor 'NSFW' Games

Maybe the payment processors lied?

davel, do gaming w Elon Musk Admits To Cheating In Path Of Exile 2 And Diablo 4 Amid Fake Gamer Controversy
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

FYI, we’re considering removing some/most/all Musk 💩, or perhaps creating a Musk containment community.

Dagamant,

Do it, I’m tired of this clown getting attention

fushuan,

There’s a musk only commnity that the technology communities created for this very reason. Maybe you could try to redirect posts there.

TWeaK, do games w Palworld Developer Reveals The Pokémon Patents Nintendo Claims It's Violating

Obviously this depends on the exact details of the patents, which are all in Japanese, as well as the specifics of Japanese patent laws.

However, patents only last for 20 years, and they are undermined by public disclosure before filing. The first Pokemon game came out more than 20 years ago. However^2 not all of the features in the patents were present in the original games. All 3 patents were first filed in 2021, well after many of these features were established.

The first patent is about aiming something and entering into a fight mode. This wasn’t in the original game. Aiming at enemies and entering a fight mode almost certainly existed before Pokemon (Final Fantasy perhaps). Furthermore, Palworld doesn’t really have a fight mode - it isn’t a turn based game but real time. Throwing a sphere is just one way to start a “battle” but there is no mode change between “explore” and “battle” modes because they are functionally the same in Palworld. Pokemon Go and Pokemon Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee, which were all around in 2018, would seem to amount to public disclosure that undermines this patent.

The second patent has more detail about catching Pokemon outside of battles. This might have some elements of Palworld gameplay in it. However, again we have prior art that predates the patent.

The third patent is about riding characters. This has certainly existed in other games before Pokemon and before this patent. Off the top of my head, World of Warcraft had you riding mounts, Final Fantasy had you riding Chocobos, and Mega Man let you ride Rush.

However the big issue with all of these is that these challenges are always better off done before the patent is granted. With the patents established it is a massive uphill struggle trying to get them withdrawn. Given that each charge is only for $33,000, so about $100,000 total, I expect a settlement will be reached instead of going on this fight.

Nightweb,

If I recall correctly weren’t all the patients filed for and approved after PAL World released?

TWeaK,

Looking it up, Palworld was announced in 2021, but not released (under early access) until 2024. However they were apparently designing the game back in 2020, if not earlier.

Kelly,

Given that each charge is only for $33,000, so about $100,000 total, I expect a settlement will be reached instead of going on this fight.

Unfortunately that would be the worst outcome for everyone else.

The patents need to be contested and invalidated or smaller devs will feel they can’t use these mechanics.

AkatsukiLevi,
@AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world avatar

The third one, wouldn’t it hit Rockstar with Red Dead Redemption? After all, you do ride a animal(horse) and can easily swap in and our of 'em

Breezy,

I thought of elden ring more so of the patent. Palworld wasnt as smooth as summoning torrent, but it felt very similar.

iusearchbtw, do gaming w Unity Cutting About 1,800 People In Company's Largest Layoff

this is almost year old news

affiliate, do games w The First Borderlands Movie Clip Looks Like An SNL Skit

it was over as soon they casted kevin hart

Muffi, do gaming w Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5

All the greatest recent games run super well on the Steam Deck, so there’s no need for a giant console cosplaying as a router.

thingsiplay,

All the greatest recent games run super well on the Steam Deck

I get what you are telling here, but it’s not 100% accurate, generally speaking. It might be true for you personally. I own a first gen Steam Deck myself and its just a complementary hardware to my PC (and wonderful at that). It does not run all greatest games at all or in some cases limited and problematic. So “super well” is a little bit exaggerated, but that does not take away how fantastic the device is.

The_Che_Banana,

Right? I’ve had the Xbox since the beginning, didn’t get the last upgrade and finally sold the One to get a steam deck.

Fribbtastic, do gaming w Half Of PlayStation Players Still Haven't Upgraded To PS5

Well, I can only speak from my own experience.

When the PS5 launched I wanted to upgrade but you literally couldn’t get it because it wasn’t in stock anywhere. You could only find it on eBay of some private seller that started at almost double the price, no, thank you. Then Sony introduced this “Register and on the next event you get a slot to buy one from the official Website” which was great. I got invited the first time and literally couldn’t buy it because the website was broken. Whenever I wanted to select my payment method the checkout got blank and there was nothing you could do. Even worse was that you couldn’t hard refresh the shop because this would have killed the session that the website needed to allow you to buy it. So, even switching browsers with the same “invitation link” didn’t work. I reported this to the support, but they didn’t really care. half a year later, I got my second invitation link and the same happened then as well. I reported it again to the support, but they still didn’t know what to do with that information or wanted to troubleshoot this.

And now, there isn’t really a need for it anyway. The Games that I would have wanted to buy on the PS5 released on the PC.

aStonedSanta,

Rise of the Ronin and demon souls are the only things I’m missing. I tried to find one without botting for awhile before I gave up. Rather thankful I did lol.

7U5K3N, do gaming w Grand Theft Auto VI Now Targeting Fall 2025 Release, Take-Two Confirms

I can’t wait to buy this on PC in 2028…

I wish it was /s

Murdoc,

Every, single, time. 😓

DebatableRaccoon,

“can’t wait to buy” sounded pretty sarcastic to me

7U5K3N,

A little bit yes… a little bit no.

They just won’t release it on PC till then. :(

DebatableRaccoon,

Personally, with the experiences I had with GTA V and looking at how far both R* and Take Two have fallen in my esteem, I won’t be buying it.

thingsiplay,

I own an Xbox Series (got it for free, you can’t argue with that), but still will wait for the PC port. I don’t think it will take 3 years before it comes to PC, especially not in todays landscape with a strong PC in Gaming overall. They surely are already working in a way to enable such a port. So 1 year from console release date seems to be realistic.

… who am I kidding to?

7U5K3N,

Honestly I think that’s pretty close to what they did with V.

I don’t remember the exact time line. But it was like a year or 18 months after consoles… iirc.

QuadratureSurfer, do gaming w Helldivers 2 Community Manager Seemingly Gone After PlayStation Login Meltdown
@QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like someone setup a petition for Spitz to get rehired. change.org/…/re-hire-the-legendary-community-mana…

thefartographer,

Fuck that, review bomb and refund again!!!

I doubt it would work a second time, but that would be fucking hilarious to watch Sony get slapped twice by their own community.

It would be less funny when the Helldivers II servers suddenly shut down…

mbfalzar,

As funny as that would be I don’t think it would be as funny as when the internet memed Morbius into bombing twice, which was also Sony

thefartographer,

If you haven’t listened the How Did This Get Made episode about Morbius, you owe it to yourself to do that immediately.

They get into some stories about Jared Leto’s antics on set and trying to do improv and it sounds more like an Ambien-induced dialogue than a description of actual human behavior.

quink, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news

The New York Times is fighting off Wordle look-alikes with copyright takedown notices

I cancelled my NY Times puzzle subscription as soon as that happened.

onlinepersona,

They copyrighted an idea? The hell? Is that even possible? I thought that’s a patent. Is Wordle patented?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

HawlSera, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

Maybe if you promote your game I’ll have heard of it…

Looking at you Alone In The Dark 2024

echodot,

Wait what? They’ve made another alone in the dark game and haven’t promoted it. Oh god.

HawlSera,

Eyup and with tons of Day 1 DLC too! - store.steampowered.com/app/…/Alone_in_the_Dark/

Because for some reason only things already ubiquitous get marketed these days

reverendsteveii,

for some reason only things already ubiquitous get marketed these days

the reason you’re looking for is capitalism. why would I bet marketing money on anything but the most likely big return? this is also why such a huge portion of movies are either reboots, sequels, prequels or “homages”.

HawlSera,

Yes, but the point of adveritsing is to convince someone to buy a product… if I already consume and know about said product, then what does advertising do besides waste money?

Fuck the Dorito’s “Anti-Ad” was as close as these corpos got to figuring it out

FurtiveFugitive,

I wouldn’t say 5 pieces of dlc totalling $20 is a lot. Not these days at least. Looks like they’re things you’d normally get in the “deluxe edition” of games past.

Wouldn’t tempt me to open my wallet but it’s not as grotesque as a lot of dlc these days.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

It suffered a fate worse than no promotion. It was Embracer’d

papabobolious, do gaming w Subnautica 2 Devs Quickly Clarify That, No, It's Not A Live-Service Thing

This is how I even found out they were making the game, so pretty good news. Never got around to playing the other one they released, though… Or finishing the first.

Seaguy05, do gaming w Nintendo DMCAs Palworld Mod That Makes Everything Pokémon

They were so busy thinking to NintenDO the mod. Instead they should have been thinking NintenDONT break copyright laws.

TheBlue22, do games w GTA 6 is likely to skip PC again and only launching on current gen consoles

Cool. Then I’ll pirate it at lauch.

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