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originalfrozenbanana, do gaming w New York Times Simulator Is A Gripping Exploration Of Modern Media Pitfalls

Simulator for those who just want to see it …itch.io/the-new-york-times-simulator

davel, (edited ) do gaming w New York Times Simulator Is A Gripping Exploration Of Modern Media Pitfalls
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s a game about navigating the mission of publishing “all the news that’s fit to print” when your key demographic may not want to hear that news, or may want it softened or ideologically slanted for their comfort.

Yeah that’s not really what NYT editor Joseph Kahn or any of the other members of the Council of Foreign Relations are trying to do.

Transcendant, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

This is the big problem with modern gaming. Too many companies are now in hock to investors and publishers. To those at the top of the hierarchy, making a game is an investment, a bet. Innovation is stifled in favour 9f ‘safe bets’, no wonder gaming is stagnating.

It’s not all doom and gloom, there are still exceptions to the rule. But it’s certainly not looking good for fantastic single player games.

I’m expecting gta 6 to have a much shorter single player campaign with most of the focus towards online (and more obscene earnings from shark cards 2.0).

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

I agree with the rest but it’s not just modern gaming it was happening back in the 90s on consoles and earlier in arcades. One of the first games I played was an obvious cash grab by Marvel, Spider-Man and the X-Men in Arcade’s Revenge for the Gameboy. It was barely playable.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

I heard also that even earlier than that, there was an E.T. game that may have been a bad cash grab. I doubt it had any serious impact, though.

Delphia,

Ive commented on this before, as sad as it is if we want innovative, expansive, beautiful AAA titles we have to accept that investors arent going to keep backing the money truck up on maybes. Microtransactions, subscriptions, dlcs… there has to be an ongoing income stream or an absolutely eyewatering launch price OR we get used to safer and safer bets or games with very narrow scopes.

Transcendant,

Yep, it’s a real quandary. I’m not sure what the solution is, or if there is one from our perspective… it’s no point voting with my wallet when there’s millions of others who won’t.

Delphia,

I think you have to ask yourself if the company is behaving ethically.

If a game is F2P but has microtransactions that arent P2W and the devs are continuing to maintain the game then its hard to be mad that they want to make some money off the basic game you get for free. (Mechwarrior online is a pretty good example of this)

If its a subscription, are you getting regular additional content for the money or is the subscription just allowing you to play the game you paid for? Do you still have to buy DLCs and pay subscription?

If its DLC, is it meaningful storylines/maps/characters? Does it make the prospect of another playthrough different or more interesting? Is it a reasonable price for what it gives you?

Transcendant,

You make excellent points. Personally, I rarely have a problem paying for proper DLC (and buy proper DLC I mean, additional story content that wasn’t obviously cynically cut from the OG game). Notable past examples for GTA, stuff like ‘The Ballad of Gay Tony’ were amazing expansions.

Also sticking with GTA, they’re a good example of bad practice nowadays (imo). They pivoted to online-only DLC once they realised how lucrative a pay-to-play system can be when leveraged against not being bullied by players with more disposable income. There was amazing single-player content in dev for GTA5 and they cut it to focus on MP. Worse, they left the dregs of that content in the game, allowed a ‘GTA5 mystery’ concept to flourish and left people hunting for the mystery thinking they were going to find something like GTA4’s bigfoot. Knowing all along it didn’t exist. But of course, happy that people were still playing and hoping they would get bored and try online mode.

AceFuzzLord,

I personally like to think this trend of enshittification in the gaming industry is geared more towards the triple AAA side of things because a lot of the actual indie devs (not the people putting out low effort mobile games or shovelware or scams or straight up large corporatios masquerading their games as indie titles) are putting out some of the best games I’ve seen in years for single player experiences.

Though I absolutely agree with your assessment of the situation in general.

Transcendant,

This was what I meant. It’s these smaller devs that seem to be innovating to any extent at the moment!

Maybe I’m just a bit jaded due to being an old fart nowadays… I remember playing the original Doom / Wolfenstein so especially FPS feel so overdone to me. When was the last time you saw a truly novel game concept? I’m sure I’ve seen a few over the last few years but can’t remember (see, old fart).

AceFuzzLord,

I don’t think I can recall something truly novel since I think we’ve pretty much gone past the point of novel concepts in the majority of genres, but there have definitely been standouts in certain genres over the years.

In the deck building and rogue like genre we’ve seen Balatro, the poker based game. In the retro inspired games genre, we’ve got Corn Kidz 64, a shorter game that controls and looks like an N64 title.

Totally depends on the genre, though.

Transcendant,

It’s a hard question to answer I know! Racking my brains here, the most novel thing I can think of is Portal.

EssentialCoffee,

Indie games is really where it’s at right now.

reddig33, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news

🤷‍♂️ if gaming helps to subsidize news coverage, that’s a good thing.

BottleOfAlkahest,

Also as someone subscribed to both, the games are way cheaper. So it makes sense that more people can afford a continuous gaming subscription through them.

Catoblepas,

The news coverage it’s subsidizing is… not always good. Article is a year old, but little has improved.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Same reason I’m ok with govt businesses.

onlinepersona,

? could you elaborate?

quink, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news

The New York Times is fighting off Wordle look-alikes with copyright takedown notices

I cancelled my NY Times puzzle subscription as soon as that happened.

onlinepersona,

They copyrighted an idea? The hell? Is that even possible? I thought that’s a patent. Is Wordle patented?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

janus2, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news
@janus2@lemmy.zip avatar

anyone writing a story set in the distant future please make NYT the dominant video game company lol

i mean nintendo did start out as a playing card manufacturer, nokia was originally a paper pulp mill, etc.

damnthefilibuster,

Yeah the Nokia thing really blew my mind!!

kadu,
@kadu@lemmy.world avatar

“Playing card” company is a bit of an understatement. Nintendo was a grey market entertainment company - playing cards were banned in Japan, and a workaround was designing the cards with those beautiful drawings instead of suits. This is also why card companies were deeply associated with the Yakuza.

Nintendo also operated casinos and love hotels, with prostitutes. In fact, they did a lot of weird maneuvering during the launch of the Famicom to tip off the Yakuza, who wanted to keep their strong ties and get early access to the hardware.

There’s a whole book about how Nintendo and Sega had some crazy connections with the Yakuza and those shaped several projects in these companies.

KreekyBonez,

so, Team Rocket is the Yakuza, and Silph Co. is Nintendo? that plot in the original games was a cry for help?

PoorPocketsMcNewHold,

Interested by that book. Heard about those individual facts but want to learn more about it !

son_named_bort, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news

That’s the power of Wordle.

Black616Angel,

But connections is so much more fun. Wordle is a solved game unfortunately.

Mouselemming, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news

Oh come on, I read the news every day! How else am I gonna win the Friday News Quiz game?

Tolstoshev, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news

Their next big revenue stream will be Brawndo.

iamdisillusioned, do gaming w The New York Times Is More Gaming Company Than Newspaper – Data shows most NYT subscribers are playing games, not reading the news

I really feel this lately. The news is shit. My anxiety has been high so I go straight to the NYT games app instead of scrolling through the front page.

A_Very_Big_Fan, do gaming w Massive Pokémon Fan Game Site Taken Down Without Warning Via DMCA

Thank God it wasn’t PokeMMO. I feel like they don’t have long, though…

catloaf,

I’m confused as to how that one wasn’t shut down years ago, but others like this have been.

mnemonicmonkeys,

They tell all of their users that they must have a legitimate physical copy of Pokemon Firered, which is what PokeMMO was hacked from

charliegrahamm,

They are very clever in how they handle Nintendo IP. Firstly, you must bring your own legitimate copies of the necessary titles:

Fire red Black/white Heartgold/soulsilver Emerald Platinum

Then they don’t sell any Nintendo IP. Anything that is sold is either loosely based off Nintendo IP, or custom in-house design.

Granted, I’m still surprised it’s not been taken down somehow, but I’m over 1k hours into the game and I’m loving it.

Melatonin, (edited ) do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

Will Smith is a “past” celebrity, relying on his name, infamy, and horning in on already proven commodities.

Bad Boys for Life, Aladdin, Suicide Squad, (oh, and “King Richard” lol, we’ve all seen that!)

Those are his “popular” movies since 2009. Put a fork in him. He’s done. He should enter politics.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@lemmy.world avatar

He should enter politics.

Please don’t do this to us.

HoustonHenry,

Maybe he can go slap putin (hckkkk sppt)

CaptKoala,

Get my wife’s name out your Kremlin!

HawlSera,

To be fair Suicide Squad is something he did and passed up Independence Day 2 for believing if he was in one of these “Super Hero Movies that are doing so well” it would revive his career

And he likely would have been right… If he went with Marvel instead of the DCEU

ours,

Dodging a bullet on ID2 just to land on Suicide Squad. Ouch.

HawlSera,

Yeah I think his Agent fucked up market research

DingoBilly,

Aladdin was pretty good though.

Haven’t seen the rest.

ours,

Didn’t he try the celebrity YouTube route for a hot minute?

HopingForBetter,

Yaaaa!

ours,

That is hawt!

MargotRobbie, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Celebrity endorsement has never been a factor in how well a videogame does either way, regardless of level of star power or degree of involvement for the celebrity: Keanu Reeves playing a heavy hand (heh) in the story of Cyberpunk 2077 did little to stop the game’s initial bad press, and the main reason Baldur’s Gate 3 did well isn’t because JK Simmons is playing Kethric Thorm. (still, he had a great performance). Gameplay matters a lot more for a videogame.

It’s unsurprising then, that Oscar winning actor Will Smith’s involvement in a game in the oversaturated genre of zombie survival shooters did not become successful.

Plus, I don’t think paying celebrities to promote videos on their YouTube channel is an effective marketing strategy, mainly because nobody really watches any celebrities’ own YouTube channel, with the exception of Jack Black’s gaming channel, of course.

lud,

Keanu Reeves really helped promote the game though.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, he did. But neither the main praise nor criticism of the game was not directed towards him but on the overall buginess and removal of RPG elements from the game.

NoMoreCocaine,

Ok, what rpg element was removed? I just played it (without dlc), and it’s basically first person witcher 3 in cyberpunk setting, including all the faults. Basically true to type with CDPR.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

They advertisd heavily on “complex branching storyline” and “every decision will have consequences” so the expectation was at the minimum a bigger Deus Ex Human Revolution, but then what they actually delivered is a worse GTA 5 with neon lights.

NoMoreCocaine,

Right. But I just played it, and it has nothing to do with GTA. It’s literally witcher 3 in first person. Same level of branching, same slightly shallow rpg mechanics and shallow ish combat. It’s much more action, though and theoretically stealth is an option unlike witcher.

Fenrisulfir,

I mean look how many celebrities are in Squadron42/Star Citizen…

webghost0101,

I wouldn’t hold it against Keanu personally because its clear he really cared and did gave a good performance but i feel like his involvement with cyberpunk ruined a lot of things that could have been.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

No one will hold it against him personally, it’s not uncommon.

There are certain actors who performs great in every single movie they appear in, yet still have many of these movies flop. Many times, it’s out of the actor’s control.

All we can do is our best.

sheogorath,

CDPR effectively rewrote the campaign after Keanu Reeves told them that he’s game if CDPR wants to record more lines. I still remember the E3 demo where CDPR said that the campaign has been completed and they’re just in the polishing stages.

MrBusiness,

Yup we got a mid main storyline when we could’ve had more Jackie.

Hadriscus,

I woulda liked that

HawlSera,

The whole “Origin System” that amounts to… literally nothing outside of some dialogue at the very begining

Hadriscus,

There are dialogue options all throughout the game (at least for streetkid)

vaultdweller013,

Also nomad has qoute a bit.

HawlSera,

JK Simmons is playing Kethric Thorm

See I played Baldur’s Gate but I didn’t know that shit

vaultdweller013,

They gave him a full beard instead of a stache thats why you couldnt tell.

Blackmist,

Says a lot for the quality of voice acting in BG3 that it had Jason Isaacs and JK Simmons and I didn’t really notice either of them standing out.

Although I did notice Gale in an episode of Good Omens.

Crozekiel,

I have nearly 1000 hours in Baldur’s Gate 3 and JUST NOW learned that Jason Isaacs was the voice of Gortash… I did recognize JK Simmons but honestly wasn’t 100% sure it was him until the second or third time meeting him and finally looking it up on IMDB to confirm (and somehow still missed Jason Isaacs - I did learn about Matt Mercer’s role as Minsc which still blows my mind).

CaptKoala,

Wasn’t aware there were celebrities other than Jack Black on YouTube… TIL

Blackmist,

Ron Livingstone’s YouTube channel had just one video on it for 8 years.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu0qtEwb9gE

rocket_dragon,

Russel Brand is now a far right Christian YouTuber.

CaptKoala,

Ew

HawlSera, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

Maybe if you promote your game I’ll have heard of it…

Looking at you Alone In The Dark 2024

echodot,

Wait what? They’ve made another alone in the dark game and haven’t promoted it. Oh god.

HawlSera,

Eyup and with tons of Day 1 DLC too! - store.steampowered.com/app/…/Alone_in_the_Dark/

Because for some reason only things already ubiquitous get marketed these days

reverendsteveii,

for some reason only things already ubiquitous get marketed these days

the reason you’re looking for is capitalism. why would I bet marketing money on anything but the most likely big return? this is also why such a huge portion of movies are either reboots, sequels, prequels or “homages”.

HawlSera,

Yes, but the point of adveritsing is to convince someone to buy a product… if I already consume and know about said product, then what does advertising do besides waste money?

Fuck the Dorito’s “Anti-Ad” was as close as these corpos got to figuring it out

FurtiveFugitive,

I wouldn’t say 5 pieces of dlc totalling $20 is a lot. Not these days at least. Looks like they’re things you’d normally get in the “deluxe edition” of games past.

Wouldn’t tempt me to open my wallet but it’s not as grotesque as a lot of dlc these days.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

It suffered a fate worse than no promotion. It was Embracer’d

chicken, do games w Will Smith Zombie Game No One Has Heard Of Bombs

I would play No One Has Heard Of Bombs, sounds like an interesting game

CaptKoala,

What is bomb?

vaultdweller013,

Something that comes with lamp oil and rope.

chicken,

Don’t worry about it, on an unrelated note here is a gift of a bulky alarm clock counting down to zero with many wires

CaptKoala,

Thank you!! I surely won’t miss my alarm with this one!

Toribor, (edited )
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

I’m quite partial to the basketball-sized black sphere with a lit fuse sticking out of it.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Something somebody set up us with.

retrieval4558,

Remembering this made me turn to dust and blow away

grrgyle,

It’s a great title. Weird and evocative.

QuantumBamboo,
@QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If no one has heard of bombs then no one can know the title of the game, because otherwise they will see or hear the word bombs. But I’ve seen the title. Do I even know what a bomb is? I think I do… but do I? The paradox of the bomb knowledge will keep me up tonight.

grrgyle,

QuantumBomboo how did you become so wise

EssentialCoffee,

On skimming, I’d thought it had something to do with the kpop group, BTS. They have a song called Louder than Bombs.

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