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Kyrgizion, do games w Oblivion Remaster Rockets Past 100K Players on Steam Hours After Launch - Insider Gaming

I must admit, it’s not “just” a remaster, but they somehow managed to capture the spirit of '06 when this first came out PERFECTLY. Picture this: I was still in college and studying at home when Oblivion was finally released. I had been waiting for it for a long time (to my young mind back then) and I remember it was a perfectly beautiful, sunny day and I was home alone with no obvious way to get to a game store.

So I asked my elderly neighbor if I could borrow her clunker of a car for “an errand” and drove over an hour to the nearest game shop.

From the game itself I mostly remember how drop-dead gorgeous everything seemed - and how terrible my PC’s performance was back then, especially in outdoors areas.

Today, I experienced the exact same form of awe, followed by the most gorgeous graphics I could imagine, and… 15 fps outdoors. EXACTLY how things used to be when I was a young man.

Magic. Truly a win for Bethesda (after Starfield). Now all I need is a PC who can actually run the damn thing on high with over 60 FPS.

ArtVandelay,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

I have a 4070 ti and I still got 17fps after leaving the sewers. The game runs like ass.

Kyrgizion,

Damn, this is with everything on max at 4K with DLSS & Framegen?

ArtVandelay,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

3840x1080 ultra wide. Tried low, medium, high, and ultra, dlss on and off, and it’s still ran like a potato

UndercoverUlrikHD,
@UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

Unreal Engine 5 isn’t all that great when it comes to utilising the CPU. What CPU do you have and on what settings are you running?

Asking out of curiosity, haven’t bought the game yet.

ArtVandelay,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

I7 13700.

3840x1080 ultra wide. Tried low, medium, high, and ultra, dlss on and off, and it’s still ran like a potato

aegis_sum,

Dang, I’m playing it on a Series X and it looks and runs great.

Cenzorrll,

You brought back some memories for me. Exiting the sewer for the first time. Setting graphics to full and waiting for the details to slowly emerge. An audible “wow” left my lips, then I set the graphics back down to as low as they could go so I could actually play.

SolidShake, do games w Oblivion Remaster Rockets Past 100K Players on Steam Hours After Launch - Insider Gaming

I don’t understand fully. I haven’t played the game since it first came out and I played it on the 360. But this remaster almost feels like a half UE5 conversation with an AI generateded character updates. Like it half looks like absolute trash except for the scenery.

I know it’s not a remake or a complete overhaul. But did the character movement slide this much on the original? Did all the NPCs you talk to look like they’re in late stage face cancer?

Hellinabucket,

Yes, actually they looked worse than this, it looked so much worse.

SolidShake,

I would imagine lol. It’s been so long. Oh well, having a fun time regardless minus the terrible optimization that is UE5

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

I like to describe classic Oblivion characters as looking like they were all carved from the same potato.

psx_crab,

From what i looked the character movement and behaviour seems to be unchanged, but the combat is speed up so it looks so weird. The character model and the mouth movement is honestly doesn’t looks good, sheogorath looks so so weird. From the trailer and some gameplay it’s basically like adding those environment, lighting, combat, and then character model mod, very much mismatched. I guess that’s the cost of remastering to current standard while maintain the jank, as most would say, the janky-ness of oblivion is what give it the charm.

I think skyblivion gonna “feel” much better as it’s build on top of skyrim.

Concave1142, do games w Phil Spencer Confirms Xbox is Planning an Xbox Handheld, But It's a Few Years Away

Maybe they should focus on it quicker. Surely it cannot be that difficult to build a handheld based on how quickly Steam Deck competition hit the market within, what, a year of the Steam Deck release?

(I’m lazy and did not read the article, only the headline.)

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

That few years is going toward making Windows less of a hindrance on handhelds and likely not so much into the hardware itself.

Artyom,

It’ll [attempt] to make Windows less of a hinderance on THEIR handheld. If all these other Windows-based devices are now rivals, why let them benefit from hard work when you can force them out?

Drathro,

If they released one NOW they’d probably be shooting themselves in the foot. At best they’d get mid-generational performance improvements whereas likely in the next year or two Valve is probably going to drop a true SteamDeck 2 with significant improvements. All speculation at this point, but if you’re a bean counter at Microsoft, speculation is like 90% of your job. Unless they abandon the standard console release cycle and shoot for faster iteration, they’ll want to come out absolutely swinging to compete.

kalr,

Not really. PS6 parts have already been selected and the chipset entered production in 2022.

Drathro,

Sure, but we’re talking about a handheld. Yes, performance is improving generation over generation, but in the handheld space power usage and heat dissipation are equally important. If you’ve been keeping up with recent innovations, you’ll see that generally we are making more powerful parts, but they’re getting much more power hungry for every little percent of improvement they bring in raw horsepower. So far it doesn’t look like you could even get Xbox series S performance in a handheld yet. At least not at a reasonably portable size, cost, or battery life. You could get a little better than PS4 pro performance in a handheld at present, based on what I’ve seen. Which is not a full generational leap over what’s out there.

kalr,

I think they’ll be fine. They don’t need to be the most powerful. Steam Deck is weaker than Rog Ally but remains the more popular option due to a better user experience and the Switch was significantly underpowered compared to the competition but remains a popular option to other things they bring to the table.

Microsoft won’t push for an expensive handheld so anything they bring out would likely be weaker than the top end of the market. It really comes down to what other offerings they bring.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

With any luck they actually want to bring true innovations to either Windows or Xbox. Getting support for gyros, accelerometers, back buttons or touchpads into Xinput would even benefit gaming on Linux since most games seem to default to that as a lowest common denominator.

RightHandOfIkaros,

I would prefer if gyros and accelerometers die off in controllers for gaming. Tilting and shaking the controller is not something I have ever enjoyed, except when the controller is a light gun for a game like Time Crisis or Silent Hill The Arcade.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Then you have never used it for aiming assistance. Still not as good as a mouse but it finally comes close.

The bad rep for movement controls comes from too many poor implementations. As long as it is subtle and meaningful it’s awesome.

RightHandOfIkaros,

I have used it. Played Metroid Prime 3, which is probably the best implementation of motion controls by far in any game.

I still would prefer using a normal controller with no motion controls. I would really prefer a trackball on a controller, but that likely won’t happen.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Aiming in MP3 is done through the IR pointer. I loved that game. It has the best FPS controls on the Wii. But it has absolutely nothing to do with gyro aiming.

With gyro aiming you do the large movements traditionally with the right joystick and only make micro adjustments with very small natural tilting of the controller. I thought I wasn’t using it until I deactivated it. It has nothing to do with picking up the controller and pointing it at the screen. It has nothing to do with making any gestures. An outside observer might not even notice that you’re using it.

TachyonTele,

The Wii controllers are no where near what gyro controllers have today. It’s not motion control, it’s an assist.

edgemaster72, do games w New Crazy Taxi Game Will Be Live Service with a '100-Person Survival Mode'
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

“Should we throw all the shitty trappings of modern gaming into this beloved and dormant IP? Let me see what my magic 8 ball radio says.”

Radio: Ya Ya Ya Ya Ya!

Deestan, (edited ) do games w New Crazy Taxi Game Will Be Live Service with a '100-Person Survival Mode'

I’m somewhere between sad for the people whose talents are being directed to this, and feeling so profoundly unexcited about this game that I keep having to re-read the post title to remind myself what it was about.

(This was not a complaint on the post btw - upvoted)

lorty, do games w The Xbox Series S Is More Popular Than The Xbox Series X
@lorty@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The S is very popular in the rest of the world precisely because of its cheap price and gamepass.

echo64,

is very popular in the rest of the world

… nah. nah it isn’t.

legion,
@legion@lemmy.world avatar

I’m 95% a PC gamer, but if I was a broke college student, a Series S plus Game Pass would keep me busy all the way through school.

Poopfeast420, (edited ) do gaming w Starfield's Numbers Surge in Early Access - Insider Gaming

I’m watching a streamer play the game, and what I see looks like I’d have some fun, and others probably feel the same way.

I’m just not interested in playing at like 30fps on a 3080. Maybe some patches or driver updates can improve things and I’ll check it out in the Steam Winter Sale or something.

Mereo,

Being a patient gamer is best. We need to give it at least 6 months for Bathesda to optimize the game and fix the major bugs.

Butterbee,
!deleted4292 avatar

They haven’t even fixed Skyrim yet.

Mereo,

I hope that since Bathesda is now a Microsoft studio, Microsoft is going to be persistent with bug fixes. But maybe it’s a tall order.

Ocelot,

Microsoft? Fix bugs? Are we thinking of the same microsoft? Best they can do is integrate a weather app nobody asked for. And install candy crush without your consent.

Sinnz,

Take a look at Halo Infinite’s networking problems that persist for more than a year.

Poopfeast420,

One can hope, but I kinda doubt that they can pull out like a 50% performance uplift, unless there’s just some weird bugs that tank performance.

Captain_Ender,

Modders already on top of optimization. DLCC 2.0 mod already out there. Runs 40-50 fps 4K/ultra on my system unmodded. 3080ti, 12900k, 128GB DDR5, m2.

fraydabson,

I heard this is because NVIDIA didn’t fund optimizations. AMD did so it’s running a lot better for them. I said fuck it and bought an Xbox with 2 year payment plan and game pass included. Cause no way my 1080ti is ever gonna play this game that good I don’t think. End of an era.

riesendulli,

1080ti could’ve been a solid 30fps experience…

fraydabson,

Not what I’m hearing. Maybe after some more patches and a new driver.

KevinDeRodeTovenaar,

My 980 is pulling 30 fps with most things on medium and high, and shadows on low because it has the most effect on performance. Also turn off resolution scaling, for nvidia at least, don’t know about AMD cards.

fraydabson,

Wow! Good job getting your 980 to run this! Gives me hope for playing on my PC with cross save in the future!!

Poopfeast420,

With resolution scaling it doesn’t matter if you’re using AMD or Nvidia, it’s doing the same thing and looks the same on both vendors.

If your GPU supports it (RTX cards), you can mod DLSS into the game and then get (supposedly) better image quality, on the same level of scaling as the non-modded FSR2, or potentially lowering the scaling even more, for better performance, while still getting a comparable image as a higher FSR2 preset.

Poopfeast420,

It’s all over the place. Some AMD GPUs are far better than the equivalent Nvidia GPUs, but then AMD CPUs are seemingly much worse than Intel.

Then there’s reports of Nvidia cards sometimes being stuck at like 60% power, which of course doesn’t help either.

fraydabson,

Damn what a mess. I was hearing for Linux the mesa driver makes the game run pretty well for AMD cards.

circuitfarmer, (edited )
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s technically sponsored by AMD, which is why you could can get it free with a processor or GPU upgrade.

Edit: could to can, the offer is open until October apparently

Coelacanth,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

I’ve also watched some streams, and the performance hasn’t even been my biggest concern. I’m just… not interested? It hasn’t been gripping me. Even though there are these shiny new things and bells and whistles, it still just looks like another Bethesda game to me, but with a blander setting this time. Though maybe it’s more fun to play than watch. I just haven’t really seen anything that makes me go “goddamn I gotta get a piece of that”.

irongamer,
@irongamer@beehaw.org avatar

Replied to wrong level, moving to parent comment.

irongamer, (edited )
@irongamer@beehaw.org avatar

Here are some numbers. I’m at 42 hours played. Resolution 2k, settings are on High. Ryzen 5800x and a Radeon RX 6800xt. The last session of ~5 hours had an average FPS of 108, Starfield is more optimized than BG:3 and Remnant 2… at least for AMD. I had to lower a lot of Remnant 2 settings and it still averages around 55.

Virkkunen, (edited )
@Virkkunen@kbin.social avatar

Ony 3080 with a 5900x I'm constantly getting 60fps at 1080p (unfortunately for now that's the only screen I have), meanwhile BG3 would dip to low 10s after a few minutes of playing every time

EDIT: I would also like to add that I didn't use DLSS or FSR in both games, since my hardware is more than capable of running both on maximum quality at 60fps 1080p.

Poopfeast420,

That’s exactly what I have, but I play on 3840x1600, 24:10 Ultrawide.

I don’t remember BG3 giving me any problems, even in Act 3, before the last patch, that supposedly addresses some performance problems. I loaded up a save just now and get ~50fps running around in the Lower City (very short test, only like two minutes). That’s with most settings maxed and DLSS Quality.

Depending on the area, I’d probably get similar numbers in Starfield (according to the benchmarks I’ve seen), but for me, it’s a difference playing an FPS or isometric RPG.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

AMD folks are having a good time, but nvidia folks will need to wait. The game is purposefully not optimized for nvidia at the moment due to AMD sponsorship. (Also potentially to point out that many AAA titles tend to be optimized for nvidia but not AMD at launch)

Poopfeast420,

That doesn’t explain the CPUs though, since with those, AMD is much worse than Intel, so it’s not just a simple “game is optimized for AMD.”

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

CPUs though, since with those, AMD is much worse than Intel

Simply untrue with later AMD. Slight advantage to Intel, but not the blowout it used to be. Intel loses entirely if power consumption and cost is taken into account.

But of course, games rely largely on GPU power, and the CPU concern is generally secondary.

Poopfeast420,

In Starfield the 13900K is 20% better than the best AMD offering, the 7800X3D. Even the 13600K is better than any AMD CPU. A 13100 is on the same level as the 5800X3D. I wouldn’t call that just a slight advantage.

It’s only this game right now, that’s why I’m saying something might be up.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Sauce?

Poopfeast420, (edited )
p03locke, do gaming w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Starfield tastes like shit the least amount of any other Bethesda game!

This almost reads like an Onion headline.

kurcatovium, do games w Star Citizen Loses 'Integral Staff' Responsible for Server Meshing

Yeah so surprised with that vaporware scam pinata…

RightHandOfIkaros,

To its credit, Star Citizen is neither vaporware nor a scam.

You can buy access to the game for just $45 USD, and the game is playable to you right now. It regularly receives updates, some minor and some major.

Vaporware is something that never gets released to the public. Like the Coleco Chameleon. Obviously, Star Citizen is playable right now by anyone that buys access to it.

A scam is when someone takes your money under fraudulent pretenses. Star Citizen takes your money for access to a space sim game, which is exactly what you get. Its not a scam, just terribly mismanaged with a very slow development pace.

Star Citizen is a piñata though. Both from games “journalism” (lol) and from Redditors, primarily.

OutlierBlue, (edited )

Vaporware is something that never gets released to the public.

A scam is when someone takes your money under fraudulent pretenses.

What about this thread of ships that people paid for that still aren’t available in game?

robertsspaceindustries.com/…/big-issue-ships-boug…

Some of them have been waiting for TWELVE YEARS

That’s fucking vaporware, and a fucking scam.

desktop_user,

that is specific to certain ships, not the game.

Master,

Haters going to hate and there is a lot to hate about SC. Dont waste your time arguing with a wall that’s made up its mind without ever even playing the game.

False,

I had a friend try to sales pitch me on pre-ordering it back in 2012. I said “I’ll just wait for it to release”. Still waiting.

SunshineJogger, (edited )

Maybe try the playable part out first before you post parroted information as shallow as a puddle after drizzle?

It’s real issues are a dumb overdone marketing setup and digital item paywalls that keep getting ridiculously stupid.

bjoern_tantau, do games w Hideo Kojima Confirms GTA 6 Has Affected Release Dates, Including Death Stranding 2
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PushButton, do games w CD Projekt Red Announces Surprise Cyberpunk 2077 Update - Insider Gaming

Those kind of crap should not be posted. What is the point of posting in here a page that is only saying that something is going to be said in the future.

That’s fucking nothing, it’s not even bland, it’s fucking nothing, a white empty page.

What do you gain from posting this shit here?

RolyRamen, do games w The Last of Us Part 2 is Coming to PlayStation 5 - Insider Gaming

Not sure I get what a PS5 version would bring without some pretty serious tech upgrades such as Ray Tracing. There’s already a ps5 patch that enables 60 fps which is normally my personal “requirement” for new versions on cross gen games so unless this is a major uplift then I’ll pass.

Mon0,

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  • Zahille7,

    Well of course, just look at Modern Warfare 3 and they’re $70 DLC that people actually paid for.

    Psythik, (edited ) do games w The Xbox Series S Is More Popular Than The Xbox Series X

    Well yeah, most people are still using 1080p TVs. Your average console gamer doesn’t need 4K, nor do they care about framerates. They just want to play games*.

    Capitao_Duarte,

    As an average gamer, i say you are right!

    Protoknuckles, do games w The Xbox Series S Is More Popular Than The Xbox Series X

    I mean, for a long time the Series S was all I saw in stores.

    AA5B, (edited )

    The “S” had a good two years lead in availability, so anyone who needed to replace their console got that. Anyone impatient got that.

    Personally I gave up after two years not being able to get my kids X’s, and instead built gaming computers with them. No more xboxes

    Protoknuckles,

    I’ve been waiting for a game that will be worth it, that I can only play on a new console, and so far I haven’t seen one. I’m closer to upgrading my graphics card than getting a new console at this point.

    toxicbubble,

    i meanNnNnNnNnNnNn

    csolisr, do gaming w Starfield is Bethesda's Least Buggiest Game to Date, Say Sources

    /c/nottheonion@lemmy.world is that way, Todd, please don’t trip on the low bar you set while you leave

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