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acastcandream, do gaming w New Survey Reveals That Many Game Developers Consider Their Career Unsustainable

I was considering making the jump from film and television to the video game industry until a year or two ago. I am really passionate about video games, and I really think there’s a lane for me. Unfortunately, after reading so many horrible stories about crunch culture and learning just how demanding the industry can be (even as somebody who worked on some pretty grueling Hollywood sets) I decided not to go that route. It still makes me upset to think about. I just feel like the industry is so terrible it’d be irresponsible and unfair to my family to go down that route. Reading Significant Zero really put the last nail in the coffin for me on that dream, even though it wasn’t the intention of the book. 

comicallycluttered, (edited )

I know it’s not much, but I hope that if you don’t already, you find some time for yourself to just make games for the fun of it.

Not if you’re already dealing with overwork stress, but if you have free time that you’d like to spend on something. No one has to play them or you could do game jams (even though that’s inherently crunch, it’s the choice of the dev rather than their boss and more of a self-imposed limitation) or do otherwise random stuff and just let people muck about with whatever you’ve created. No pressure, no deadlines, no expectations.

And since you know already know how production in general works, you’re well aware of the iterative process and won’t fall into the trap of “why is this taking so long and why can’t my graphics be as good as GTA V” or whatever, which a lot of new developers (and programmers and pretty much everyone) encounter.

acastcandream,

It would be nice. I just need structure and it’s hard to find structure when I can only do it during my little free time i have around my toddlers :/

It would need to at least partially pay the bills to be viable.

I really appreciate the encouragement, by the way. It’s tempting!

Veraxus, do gaming w Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
@Veraxus@kbin.social avatar

It's called a PC. All consoles are based on them. Develop for PC first... problem solved.

Goronmon,

It's called a PC. All consoles are based on them. Develop for PC first... problem solved.

If the goal is to make game development easier, then PC seems the worst possible option to choose.

shani66, do games w Microsoft Closes Redfall Developer Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush Developer Tango Gameworks, and More in Devastating Cuts at Bethesda

We all know this was completely necessary at any level, but why the hifi guys? Aren’t they the best bets you could hope to invest in? They make good games that sell decently with less investment than AAA massive failures need.

some_guy, do gaming w How Hidden Nazi Symbols Were the Tip of a Toxic Iceberg at Life Is Strange Developer Deck Nine

What a shit-show. As for the nazi bullshit, you should be able to look at your versioning system to find out exactly who inserted the assets. That someone hasn’t already lost their job is troubling.

jarfil, (edited )

Game asset development is one of the places where versioning systems are least used. Not only versionong “binaries” is taxing for the system, but even game code itself (¹) is often not version tracked, or controlled at all, with more of a “cowboy coder” approach.

It all stems from most non-online games (²) being sold “as is”, with no intent of supporting them long term; the moment a studio/producer gets the money, they stop caring about their user base, until it’s time to promote the next game. Even games with post-release DLCs, are regularly developed this way, and they end up as a giant clusterf… mess.

If Deck Nine was the “lowest bidder”, with 70-80 hours a week “crunch” months, chances are they cut corners on everything, starting with proper asset versioning.

(¹: engine code is a separate thing, which gets suported across multiple games, so tends to be properly developed

²: online games, and games with microtransactions, tend to be kept in better shape, since their income depends on them working for more than a single playthrough)

some_guy,

Very informative. Thanks!

big_slap, do games w Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Launch Is a Disaster - IGN

and I bet this made bank, hence why things will never change with online game releases

DrSleepless, do gaming w Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League ‘Has Fallen Short of Our Expectations’, Warner Bros. Says - IGN

Is it because it sucks, perhaps?

all-knight-party,
@all-knight-party@kbin.run avatar

No, it is the children who are wrong.

technomad, do games w Xbox Next-Gen Console Confirmed, Will be 'Largest Technical Leap in a Hardware Generation'

Honestly, I don’t think I’ll own another console at this point.

PC will have my focus.

heavy,

Console are great for the audience that doesn’t want to pay the prevalent PC/GPU premium at this stage.

nightm4re,

At this point, a preowned Steam Deck is so much cheaper than any next gen console might ever be. So the barrier to entry for PC gaming is even lower and from a customer perspective, we know what platform players should go for

Mango,

They’ll pay it anyhow. They just won’t get a GPU for it and be stuck with only what’s on their specific platform.

I don’t even need the giant GPU. I just need the open platform to keep playing the games I already love.

CommanderCloon,

proceeds to buy $70 games

CaptPretentious,

Except you definitely make up for it and probably pay more (depending on what hardware cost your comparing to of course) on the consoles. All three consoles have subscription-based services that are more or less required. Some of the controllers for the consoles are as much or more than a keyboard or mouse. You rarely see a price decline of any of the games (especially Nintendo), and certainly nothing as near as what you’ll find on PC.

So consoles are a cheap upfront cost that’s recouped overtime. I’m not saying that consoles are definitely more expensive, but the true cost of ownership is somewhat muddled.

heavy,

I don’t really agree with that, at least outside of niche situations. The upfront cost on a PC today puts the cost for playing on consoles much cheaper up front such that it would take years to make up the difference, even if you were paying for Game Pass.

My point isn’t some pedantry over PC vs Console and cost nit-picking. Its that consoles aren’t a bad deal. It’s OK for people to own and play games on a console, and they work well for a lot of people.

I’ve been putting together PCs for a while now and the idea that they’re more affordable for playing games than on consoles is becoming more and more of a misnomer. You can thank the major part duopolies for that. I don’t think console companies aren’t greedy or somehow noble, but consoles are still fill a gap and enable people to play games.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

At this point, unless the PS5 shapes up and offers exclusives that matter, I will probably do the same.

cdipierr,

After the Helldivers 2 release Sony started talking about getting more aggressive with PC releases, so I think we’re going to see a lot less console only releases.

baatliwala,

Game pass is too good for me to resist consoles tbh, the PC app is ass. I can’t be bothered at this point to buy an expensive PC to be able to play AAA games.

AB7ORH7D,

PCs are brilliant! But I like console

Capitao_Duarte,

I play on both! I like pc for cheaper prices and some different games. I like my xbox to just “plug and play”, it is simple and I don’t have to keep verifying if it will run smoothly. My pc is kinda strong, but not super strong, so AAA titles a no go there

Blisterexe,

Steam deck is best of both worlds

cupcakezealot, do gaming w Disney Unveils the Holotile Floor Inching Us Closer to a Real Life Holodeck
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

just make housing and food less expensive its all we ask

I_am_10_squirrels,

But this way, you can have virtual housing and food!

BigTrout75, do games w Blizzard Finds New President in Former Call of Duty Executive Johanna Faries

Good for image but can they make a good game?

SasquatchBanana,

That’s a nope. Those days are long gone.

edgemaster72, do games w Where's Our Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Review? (IGN denied review code)
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

“But, we chased all the trends, even if they were incongruous with the property! Why don’t people want our game Uncle Phil? Oh well, time to go bury it, maybe we can get a tax write off for this like the Batgirl movie.”

Alternatively: “We’ve changed nothing after all the negative feedback, and we’re all out of ideas.”

badaboomxx,

The good ol’ Flanders parent’s approach

yamanii, do games w Ubisoft's customer values
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think a single publisher platform has any future, AAA games are taking longer and longer to make, there’s no benefit to stay subbed when you can go months without a new game, compared to gamepass that has deals with other devs and publishers so there’s new things to play every month.

I already saved a lot of money just by playing cocoon, jusant and like a dragon Gaiden in the last months since games in Brazil are 10x more expensive than a gamepass sub, and can’t wait for the Persona 3 Remake.

LunchEnjoyer, do games w The Day Before Servers Shutting Down Next Month, Leaving Game Active for Just 45 Days - IGN
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Refund the game while you still can, if you were silly enough to buy it… Don’t let these scammers get away with such nonsense.

flauschke,

Everybody will automatically refunded

LunchEnjoyer,
@LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world avatar

Was not aware, that’s great

Ashtear, do games w Baldur's Gate 3 Developers Explain Its Controversial Endings, Beloved Characters, and Making the Best RPG of 2023

Great interview.

It’s interesting to hear how sanguine they are about putting so much into content that only a fraction of players will see. A year on ending permutations! That’s exactly the kind of thing that being an independent studio makes possible, because corporate AAA producers and publishers aren’t going to go for that.

JadenSmith, do games w Nearly Half of CD Projekt Now Working on The Witcher 4

Can’t wait to try this about a year or two after it releases.

peopleproblems, do games w Bethesda Is Responding to Negative Reviews of Starfield on Steam

… I liked it

variants,

its fun, I liked the main story although it does have its slow spots, the vanguard terrormorph quest was pretty cool, but after a while like all games it gets kind of tiring, this game still feels like it needs some work, hopefully it will get even more post release content than fallout 4, there is a lot of space they can add stuff

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