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TowardsTheFuture, (edited ) do gaming w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance

It’s not “here to stay” it’s a feature that is used or not used depending on the level of realness wanted. Some are fine with hand waving away encumbrance, some are not.

If you’re playing a walking simulator, it is kinda part of the immersion.

If you’re running around killing every Greek god under the Sun, but suddenly you pick up your 7th weapon that’s just chains with something at the end of it, and BOOM you can’t move anymore cuz your too heavy, then it’s getting in the way. Instead of implementing encumbrance they just, limit you to 6 weapons and tada, they could explain it as “it’s too much weight” but they won’t give you the option for it to happen as slowing you down would kill the pace and feel of the game.

Baldurs gate is a DND based CRPG and Starfield is a loadscreenwalking simulator. Of course they have encumbrance.

bob_lemon,

Baldurs gate is a DND based CRPG

Although DND games usually handwaive encumbrance with bags of holding.

TowardsTheFuture,

Fair, depends on the game. CRPG’s will tend to have it in. I mean for example WotR and Kingmaker you can get a bag of holding if you buy it or put stuff into strength on characters or etc in order to not have to worry about it much but it’s still there, and not spending the money on it or building any characters with strength means you will be limited.

Dee,
@Dee@lemmings.world avatar

bags of holding.

It’s true. The character in my current campaign has two bags of holding and a bag of devouring.

RickRussell_CA,

And you’ve got KOTOR and Pillars of Eternity and others that are clearly D&D derivatives, but solve the problem handily with a “stash” whose contents are never accessible in combat.

I have never understood the fascination with inventory management. I just want to find stuff, and use that stuff later on. If I wanted something as boring as my actual job, I’d just do my actual job and get paid for it instead of buying a game.

Schlock,

In BG3 it is a balance mechanic. Heavy objects tend to be completely OP and are used to cheese combat. encumberance limits this and even allows building your character specifically for this playstyle.

In Bethesda games encumberance is in part there to protect players from themselves. If every object can be picked up (and that is a design principle in those games) and every object has a Value, then the optimal strategy is always to grab every single object you can find and then sell everything at once. If that does not sound like fun to you that is because it is not, but still i know multiple people who play those games this way even with encumberance in place. Players will always find a way to ruin their own fun, the only hing you can do is to put systems in place that disincentivise these behaviors.

leftzero,

Heavy objects tend to be completely OP and are used to cheese combat.

You shut up. Barrelmancy and goblin tossin’ are perfectly legitimate martial arts!

RickRussell_CA,

A “stash” that is only accessible outside combat mostly preserves that balance, IMO.

Most games come up with a range of ways to get around the problem, even when they do have a strictly limited inventory with encumbrance:

  • Zero weight quest items
  • Ability to run or fast travel while encumbered (FO4 selectable perk)
  • A pet or NPC capable of carrying your less valuable stuff back to the vendor for sale (Torchlight had this, did Diablo? I haven’t played in decades.)
  • Pack animals/robots
  • Portable vendors (Skyrim had a demon vendor you could summon once a day)
  • Bags of holding (or similar)
  • Warp chests (many chests with same contents/inventory around map)

etc. ad infinitum. The fact that most games implement a variety of ways to deal with absence of an infinite inventory is kind of a tipoff that it’s more of a burden than a desirable aspect of gameplay. Most of these games are holding up a carrot (or several) to get you to pursue certain achievements just to reduce the monotony of inventory management.

SkyeStarfall,

Just because you don’t like inventory management doesn’t mean others don’t.

as boring as my actual job

Again, subjective, considering the popularity of job simulator games, like truck sim.

RickRussell_CA,

“I” is a first person pronoun that refers to the one who is speaking or writing.

Rodeo, do gaming w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance - IGN

What about gear durability? I hate that shit even more than I hate encumbrance.

exohuman,
@exohuman@programming.dev avatar

Yeah, encumbrance can be overcame but the durability thing is annoying. Especially when you can’t repair the gear.

discodoubloon,
@discodoubloon@kbin.social avatar

BOTW/TOTK Zelda games are the only ones that get it right. It’s a core game mechanic and they give you enough weapons to have fun with it.

RaineV1,

Eh. Can't say I had fun watching my higher end weapon break on the stronger, bullet sponge enemies later on, and replacing it with a crappy short swords that do barely any damage. ToTK though was certainly better thanks to fusion.

hydro033,

Same. Like what kind of sword breaks after 3 uses.

BruceTwarzen,

That it kind of the thing tho, if you just violently smash your sword around, it's gonna break. Like katanas are pretty flimsy and a german greatsword for example could just snap it off. Let's take elden ring for example and you use your sword to find an invisible wall, that's terrible for a sword and it would go to shit really quick. So i guess in a way it's realistic. But i really don't like it when games do that. All it does for me is that i'm never going to use the nice things in the game, because they break, then you need a new one or repair it or whatever.
I'm fine with encumbrance... especially in these Bethesda games. All they do is litter the world with garbage for the player to pick up and carry around for no reason other than make the game longer.

Fafner, (edited ) do gaming w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance
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Playing a barbarian with bear aspect: “What encumbrance?”

edm00se,
@edm00se@beehaw.org avatar

I facepalmed after realizing I’ve been lugging around that stupid

spoilerhidden Harper’s Chest w/ the high lockpick DC

for the entire second act with it taking up inventory space.

Schlock, (edited )

Smashing chests in BG3 has no negative effects.

IntergalacticZombie, do gaming w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance - IGN

I’m a hoarder in these games. If I can store all my stuff back at my base like in Fallout 4 and Skyrim then I’m happy. As long as they don’t pull the Fallout 76 stunt where you need to pay monthly for extra storage.

wolfshadowheart,
@wolfshadowheart@kbin.social avatar

I've just found out you don't even need to build an outpost. Buy a home and you can decorate it with hundreds of storage crates (150 mass/crate)

ripcord,
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I'm with you brosephina

teft, do gaming w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance - IGN
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I’m a pack-rat in games and ive only hit the first (of three) stage of encumbrance two or three times in Baldur’s Gate and I’m in the final act. And my character is a bard with 8 strength so he has no muscles which means the lowest encumbrance threshold. I wouldn’t consider encumbrance even a little bit of a problem in BG3 since if you ever do become encumbered you can just move stuff from your player character to one of the NPCs used as a pack mule.

Psychonaut1969,
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You can also send stuff from your bag directly to the camp chest without having to go there. On pc it's right click send to camp, on ps5 it's square button send to camp. I'm not sure if there is a limit as to how much you can send there i havent hit it yet if there is. You can access camp from anywhere but a red zone so no real reason to carry what you are not using.

NinjaYeti76, do gaming w Starfield and Baldur’s Gate 3 Revive Age-Old RPG Debate About Encumbrance - IGN
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@stopthatgirl7 Thanks, I hate it lol. I still loved both and but dislike the inventory busywork. Also the vendors have limited money to buy my loot. These games are retraining our old looting habits and I don't know if I like it.

Psychonaut1969, (edited )
@Psychonaut1969@kbin.social avatar

I haven't played Starfield, but on Bg3 you can do a partial rest (not using any camp supplies) you can initiate this standing right in front of the vendor when you leave camp after the rest your vendor will have money again. You can repeat this until you run out of things to sell.

caseyweederman, do games w Xbox Exclusive Replaced Delayed: 'At This Point We Can't Afford to Release a Sub-Par Game'

Heck, I’m still waiting for Witchmarsh.

kugmo, do games w Xbox Exclusive Replaced Delayed: 'At This Point We Can't Afford to Release a Sub-Par Game'
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Starfield’s quality really shook them huh.

NewNewAccount,

Good or bad?

li10,

Buggy and disappointing to a lot of people.

woelkchen, (edited )
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Buggy and disappointing to a lot of people.

And here I am, thinking that it fits Game Pass with its “7/10, would not buy it but it’s alright if it’s on GamePass” quality games just perfectly.

Suck_on_my_Presence, do gaming w Stray Animated Movie in the Works - IGN

On the one hand, Annapurna seems to know what they’re doing - Nimona was fantastic. On the other hand, I think it’s going to be hard to make this into a movie. I’m assuming they’ll focus on the journey of the cat and the environment around it, but they’ll have to fill all of the other space, hopefully with the robots and their personalities.

zhunk, do gaming w Stray Animated Movie in the Works - IGN

For those who’ve played the game, is it worth it? $30 for around 5 hours of play time seems a bit steep.

Little Kitty, Big City looks fun.

CraigeryTheKid,

Took me cost me closer to 10, and you can wait for sales.

I thought it was just a “walk around” game. Boy was I wrong. Best game I’ve played in a long time, constantly engaged in the entire story. Yes it’s worth it.

zhunk,

I’ll add it to my watchlist for sales. Thank you!

Caffeinated_Capybara, do gaming w Stray Animated Movie in the Works - IGN

I didn’t expect them to make a movie for this but it’s a welcome surprise!

cloudless, do gaming w Stray Animated Movie in the Works - IGN
@cloudless@feddit.uk avatar

I hope the cat in the movie will look more natural than the one in the game.

In the game, the animation looks great. I’m sure they took a lot of effort with the motion capture.

But there is something weird about the cat’s face. It just doesn’t look like a cat, no realistically, not cartoonish either. Perhaps some adjustment in the facial modelling will help.

Mothra,
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Yes, that’s to be expected, a videogame has to compromise a lot on the assets they use. A movie should be able to get something more polished up

Diabolo96, do gaming w Stray Animated Movie in the Works - IGN

I know the perfect person to direct/animate the movie :

youtube.com/

Granixo, do gaming w Stray Animated Movie in the Works - IGN
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ArrogantAnalyst, do games w Space Marine 2 Developer Used the Best Warhammer 40,000 Fan Film Ever as a Reference Point

Astartes. I’m not a warhammer person at all but I’ve seen this short film about 5 times now. Just from an artistic standpoint it is super impressive. Highly recommended.

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