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Fafner, do gaming w Why did Baldur's Gate 3 blow up? Larian lead writer says it's thanks to "a big gamble" with CRPG standards
@Fafner@yiffit.net avatar

It was because you could fuck the bear.

ono, (edited )

Spoilers suck.

TheRtRevKaiser,
@TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org avatar

I honestly don’t intend to be rude, so please don’t take this the wrong way. But this is a very minor detail that was featured in prelaunch marketing and went heavily viral. I understand not wanting to encounter spoilers about important events in a game, but this is not that.

howsetheraven,

I had it spoiled for me as well when the game launched. I didn’t consume any of the promotional material and didn’t see anything about it across my algorithm so fuck me right?

I don’t really care that it was spoiled, like you said it’s not integral. I do care about the flippant attitude that just because 100 other people knew about it already, that means you should too. Real “crabs in a bucket mentality”.

ono,

Yeah. It baffles me that some people prefer to make excuses for being inconsiderate, and even suggest that anyone who doesn’t like it leave, rather than simply add a spoiler tag.

ono,

this is a very minor detail that was featured in prelaunch marketing and went heavily viral

It is a mistake to assume just because you have encountered something that everyone else has as well. Not everyone follows viral media. Some of us actively avoid it.

And yes, this was indeed a spoiler for me. I would rather it had been a surprise in-game.

boff,

It’s totally fair game to discuss what is in official promotional material from months ago in a diacussion thread about the game.

It’s also fair to try to avoid spoilers about the game, but if you are so spoiler averse that you don’t even want to know what was in the games advertisements, you should avoid all discussion threads about the game.

FoundTheVegan,
@FoundTheVegan@kbin.social avatar

We as a community should hold ourselves to a higher spoiler standard than the marketing teams.

While I know that sounds like a reach at first, consider other media. Movie trailers tend to give a lot away, but that isn't within the control of the directors. It's done by the studios who are trying to generate as many eyeballs and clicks. Not deliver a complete narrative experince.

I have had the bear bit spoiled for me as well, would have rather seen it blind in game. But oh well, however I don't think that should preclude folk from discussing reviews, mocap and how unusual of a production cycle this game has had. Discussing the game itself doesn't require specfic story points. Much like discussing the Barbie movie set production require details on plot.

stopthatgirl7,
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I’ve had people on here yell “spoilers!” over a thing you literally find out in a character background video in the character creator before the game starts. It’s wild.

I stand by my feeling that if someone is that sensitive about what they think is a “spoiler,” then they’ve really got to not click on anything related to the game, especially comment sections, where people talk about playing the game. It’s on them at that point, because most folks don’t define “spoilers” that broadly.

snowbell,
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

IMO some people are way too sensitive about spoilers. Why should the entire world have to cater to their desire to not hear about a game? Taken to its extreme it means nobody ever gets to make casual covnersation about a video game. I always wonder whether most people actually care about this or it is just an extremely loud and angry minority. I only have two friends who care about spoilers.

stopthatgirl7, (edited )
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It’s completely acceptable to not want to hear about major plot points when a game has only been out a month or so, but folks getting mad about stuff that was in promo materials and you can learn before you even start the game proper have really got to recalibrate.

I want to play FF16 but can’t until it comes out on PC, in a good year or two. So am I on game forums or posts about FF16? Nope. I even avoid twitter threads (or did when I was still used twitter), after clicking on one and finding out about a character death randomly, that everyone there knew about because they were playing the game and assumed everyone reading it was, too.

If you’re going to a place where people are talking about a game, you had best be prepared to be spoiled. If you’re not, stay off them until you’ve played the game. You can’t police people talking about minor or funny events in a game they figure other people know about, just because you haven’t played it yet.

Kolanaki,
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Knowing you can fuck the bear isn’t the same as knowing what it is like to fuck the bear. I’m glad I know fucking the bear is possible, because now I can go fuck it.

itkovian, do games w Assassin's Creed is a "forever brand" because Ubisoft supported huge risks with it, ex director says: "Whereas, say, EA, you get these awful execs and they never made games and they came from toothpaste companies"

Assassin’s Creed is about equivalent to Colgate, I guess.

lukalix98,

I’m clueless, what happened to Colgate?

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Some scandal. A Colgategate, if you will.

Owlboi, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

i will continue to enjoy my indie games that cost me 5€, thanks.

better yet my free games like warframe that have cost me nothing and given me thousands of hours of enjoyment.

YiddishMcSquidish,

Seriously! I got a $50 steam gift card for Christmas, bought one full price dlc (Shadow of the Erdtree) and like five or so indie games that I’ve put way more time in!

sevan, do games w As The Outer Worlds 2 hits $80, director says "we don't set the prices for our games" and wishes "everybody could play" Obsidian's new RPG

I bought the first one for $20. For the second I’ll play on Game Pass, if it is available, or again wait for $20. Maybe even less if I forget about it, which I might.

JcbAzPx,

One of the theories behind this game’s price is Microsoft is trying to force more people onto the premium game pass.

CosmoNova, do games w "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

I want to believe this is just s straw man argument but sadly I know there are enough jerks out there who absolutely call everything that doesn’t cater precisely to toxic masculinity wOkE.

I think it‘s a bit of a bummer that the ending of Witcher 3 that does make the most sense in-universe isn‘t canon in favor of what I think is pure fan service. I will probably still play the shit out of this though because all of their games have been hitters for me. Even Cyberpunk at launch. Even Witcher 1.

scbasteve7, do games w "I don't know" how much Borderlands 4 will cost, Gearbox boss says, but it had "more than twice the development budget for Borderlands 3" and "it might be" $80 like some Nintendo and Xbox games

If it might be 80$, it might be the only borderlands game I don’t buy.

Don’t get it twisted, I’ll still play it. But I sure as shit won’t be buying it.

VitoRobles,

I bought Borderlands for like $30.

I bought BL2 for $20.

I got BL3 for free. (Which in kinda glad. The story was so ass.)

Then I got Tiny Tina’s for like $5 from a bundle.

Borderlands series hasn’t earned the $80 price tag.

robdor, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Ubisoft can’t be mad at me for not burying any of their games because they don’t make any games.

toiletobserver, do games w Ubisoft says you "cannot complain" it shut down The Crew because you never actually owned it, and you weren't "deceived" by the lack of an offline version

Take them to small claims for theft. I’ll bet they don’t show up. Then they won’t pay you, so you get a court order and sheriff to recoup your money in assets. Take anything you want and put it on eBay. Collect your money.

base, (edited ) do games w Wreckfest 2 Launches With Transparent Early Access Woes and Impressively Destructive Car Crashes

This is a weird one for me.

When the first Wreckfest(back then Next Car Game) launched as a crowdfunded game 12(?) years ago as an early access title it made sense. Flat Out as a franchise wasnt in their hands anymore and it hit rockbottom. So to develop a new game in a genre which had no competitor at the time with the community was compelling. Ngl the development was rocky at times. But in the end they made a super good game. THQ Nordiq got on board and with that funds for very big improvements in the tech it dearly needed. At times the game barely ran on high end PCs. But the engine got optimized so well it started to run well on the (now)last-gen consoles, then the switch and even mobile phones. But with that came also a lot of additions i really disliked. The physics got nerfed for the consoles but also on the PC, DLC galore, FOMO weekly events, the pretty realistic(ish) focus on folk racing shifted more into Flat Out 2 madness. The current game is very different to 1.0 . Not all for the better IMHO(!)

Either way: They again have a franchise with name recognition, they have a decently modern engine and game with lots of content to build upon and a publisher with funds. I dont see why an early access is needed? Especially in this super bare bones form with barely any cars or tracks(some even lifted from the last game) and nothing(!) else. I’ve put hundreds of hours into the last game. I still love it. Also i could really use finally a fresh new racing title after all the disappointments in the last years. But this… in this form isnt it. Especially knowing the community feedback might get thrown out in the future when the money man make decision. Meh

SolidShake,

For fomo people.

Novamdomum,
@Novamdomum@fedia.io avatar

Like me! :) I've been having lots of fun with it. The AI is so much better and the car handling as well. Didn't realise till last night there's a massive collision like derby tucked away in one of the speedway modes. That was fun. Can't wait for more content to drop.

REDACTED,

I do not expect to play games for a long time and I’m patient, so when I do want to play some game and it’s still in early access or is in active development (Like STALKER 2), I just put it off for later so that when I do finally play it, it’s a much better game/experience. This reminds me that it’s about time I finally try out cyberpunk (bought on day one, never launched)

libra00, do games w Valve "followed" 1.7 million Steam users for over a year, and now reports those gamers spent $20 million on microtransactions and another $73 million on games and DLC
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

That seems like a lot, but that’s <$12/user in microtransactions and ~$43/user in games. That’s like… 2 microtransaction purchases and a couple indie games each.

undeffeined,

But the sad reality is that the mtx are in all likelyhood,concentrated in a small group of users.

libra00,
@libra00@lemmy.world avatar

No doubt, but it’s still not a lot over the sample size.

CrowAirbrush, do games w Sony boss admits forcing PC gamers into PlayStation accounts can "invite pushback," but insists they have to keep games safe – which doesn't really track in single-player

So, give him the expected pushback and then some.

BleakBluets, do games w Randy Pitchford releases the most valuable shift code ever at PAX.
@BleakBluets@lemmy.world avatar

If you play on PC, you can use a hotfix injector to mod the cost of gold, diamond, and skeleton chests to be free.

Borderlands 3 Gold Chest

Borderlands 3 Diamond Chest

Wonderlands Skeleton Chest

There’s lots of quality-of-life patches and other fixes available too for both Borderlands 3 and Wonderlands.

Eggyhead, do gaming w Star Wars Outlaws doesn't let you free aim and fire from your speeder because Massive didn't want you to "feel as if you can ride in and assault people"

I figured there was enough already to complain about, but if this is now what we’re complaining about, I start to think the game isn’t as bad as it’s being made out to be.

PunchingWood, (edited )

It really isn’t a bad game.

I’m 7 hours in and having a blast (pun intended). It’s an alright game if you’re not into SW, it’s an awesome game if you are. Reminds me a lot of Hogwarts Legacy, the game didn’t bring anythinbg new to the market, but it’s fun if you’re into the theme.

There have been a few technical difficulties but nothing as bad as games I played before, which got much higher ratings and didn’t get blasted for it as hard as people do with this game.

People just really let their hate for Ubisoft take over and jump on that social bandwagon for internet points, even though the game plays barely like any other Ubisoft game I’ve played in the past 30 years.

I bet later today Metacritic user reviews will be flooded with people who haven’t even played the game and just base their entire opinion on a few buggy game clips.

Melonpoly,

Why do you assume that any bad review is from someone who hasn’t played the game? People are allowed to have negative opinions just as much as people are allowed to have positive ones.

Just because you are enjoying the game doesn’t mean that everyone else has to too.

PunchingWood,

I never said I assume that every bad review is from someone who hasn’t played.

But you can’t ignore the insane amount of hate Ubisoft is getting for the most insignificant non-issues just because they’re Ubisoft. It takes like a few seconds to notice how the troll armies are linking stuff from various clickbait YouTubers and streamers on social media, and no doubt a vast majority of negative feedback is coming from there.

I’m not ignoring the legit issues this game has, because they are definitely present. And I’m doing my part in reporting them to Ubisoft, instead of making trollposts about it on social media, so we can all enjoy a better game. Sadly that isn’t part of the majority’s crusade against Ubisoft, they’re just out there farming internet points, banking on the circlejerk hate.

I can almost guarantee that the upcoming Metacritic user reviews are a prime example of “Hue hue Ubisoft bad”.

Melonpoly,

Why do you feel the need to defend a large company from a negative image that they have created for themselves?

PunchingWood,

I’m not defending a large company.

I’m expressing my enjoyment of this game. I do not care what company is behind it.

The problem lies with the people that let their entire opinions be molded by the large company behind it.

Melonpoly,

So are you fine with people not enjoying the game if it’s got nothing to do with Ubisoft? Because a lot of the reviews are just that.

PunchingWood,

It takes only a minute to check on Metacritic what the majority of negative reviews are about.

There are a few legit ones, but most are just trashtalking Ubisoft. Or saying horsecrap like “looks like PS3 games”, which it clearly doesn’t. Or every positive review is “paid by Ubisoft”, and people even complaining about it being a woke political agenda, fucking lmao.

I strongly doubt these trolls even installed the game.

Melonpoly,

Most? Have you read all 600+ negative reviews?

Ubisoft has clearly made a name for itself by making mediocre content and this game has only reinforced that image but being upset about that is wrong apparently.

The game clearly doesn’t appeal to the majority of players and that makes you upset. Blaming the “ubisoft haters” or the “anti woke” just sounds like you’re trying to find a convenient scapegoat for why the game isn’t doing well. If the game was good people would play it regardless of who the publisher is.

Lightor,

Honestly, about 5 hours in and I love it. More depth than I expected. Actual stealth with multiple mechanics around it. The gang rep system. It’s great. I have mixed feelings on Kay as a person, but I’m curious to see where it goes.

Fun fact, you can still shoot on the speeder once you fill your adrenaline by driving a bit crazy, then you do a red dead slow down, target selection style shooting.

Draedron, do games w EA flop Immortals of Aveum reportedly cost around $125 million, former dev says "a AAA single-player shooter in today's market was a truly awful idea"

I would love an AAA single player shooter. If it is done well and fun. So no chance EA could do it

Franzia, do games w Titanfall 3 hopefuls are getting desperate as Respawn teasers continue: "This is ether god-tier trolling or a confession"

Damn that’s crazy. I thought TF2 was one of those games you can’t play anymore, because they had people abusing bugs to crash servers or whatever. But it got fixed and you can genuinely play it like… 7+ years after release? Titanfall 2 also used to use the “we need you to buy mtx to keep the servers open” strategy, lmao. I also think the artists behind TF and TF2 are leading passion for the project and a few have just made more art in the same vein in their free time, as well as more collabs and promotions after release. But again this is years ago.

Blxter,
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Alot of the original tf team from respawn moved and made a company called gravity well source

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