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Chee_Koala, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

Hahahaha, wow, what a bunch of wet noodles. If you don’t want negative discourse, maybe don’t be misogynistic. Or don’t publish your work in countries where free speech and personal freedoms are more abundant. No one is forcing you to publish here, so please keep your demands in your pants. Pffft, I was really interested in this game, now it’s such an easy pass!

batcheck,

Out of curiosity, since I’m out of the loop, what is the misogynistic discourse around the game or studio? Is it based on themes of the books/mythology the game is based on? Or is it some other thing the devs went too far with eastern culture wise?

Chee_Koala,

I read some articles from 2020 that touched on the culture @ Game Science, but it doesn’t even really matter. It’s just the way they single out stuff that feels really put of touch, pretty (ignorant) boomer attitude. I’ve only heard the word “feminist propaganda” from folks who are misogynistic, it’s not something I associate with caring about inequality. Can you imagine being a woman influencer that got this message? I would think 3 times before partnering up with a party that gave me this dos and don’t list.

It’s probably something that can be attributed to cultural differences, but that doesn’t mean that much to me. You move in a culture, but you are still responsible for you actions and words.

batcheck,

Thank you. I mainly wanted to know what the talking points are so I can have effective conversations with the people around. This one semi popped out of nowhere for me and I felt I missed something.

Agreed, the term “feminist propaganda” alone here is enough to make me question the studio/publisher leadership group.

@Chee_Koala, I’ve read your other comment on this post and I agree with you. Going to pass on the game. It’s the reality of today. If we want things to improve we have to vote with our democratic right to vote if we have it or we vote with our money. This type of topic pops up a lot in media, big tech and most other large companies that somewhat dominate an industry. There are enough options out there where we can’t always make the perfect moral decision, but we can at least try to choose on the lesser of many evils in our shopping and media consumption based on the information we have.

xavier666,
Eyck_of_denesle,

The game is insane. You are just missing out.

Chee_Koala,

Thanks a lot, I can imagine! It’s moot for me, sadly. Google maps is amazing too but I’m not on board with choices they are making so, can’t use that either. There’s enough games to take my mind of of missing this title. Have fun though!

Eyck_of_denesle, (edited )

Understandable but none of the claims against the company have any ground. All of them anonymous and yet to mean something.

LucidBoi,

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

Eyck_of_denesle, (edited )

Denuvo 😓. Edit: Down voted for saying it has denuvo. Reddit 2.0.

LucidBoi,

Oh, right. It hasn’t been cracked yet.

smeg, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

However, it’s clear Game Science, through Hero Games, is keen to control the narrative around Black Myth: Wukong to avoid negative coverage and ensure focus is on the game itself.

Given that this is the first I’ve heard of this game and I know nothing about the game itself, I feel they’ve shot themselves in the foot a little, eh?

Alimentar,

Nah for a while now, this was highly anticipated within the gaming community. Journalists have covered allegations and controversies but honestly no one really cared. People wanted a good game and they got one. Politics or not, their steam review is 96% at overwhelmingly positive.

Murvel, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

Fucking pathetic

TimLovesTech, (edited ) do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

For anyone not clicking thru:

In full, the don’ts are:

  • Do NOT insult other influencers or players.
  • Do NOT use any offensive language/humour.
  • Do NOT include politics, violence, nudity, feminist propaganda, fetishisation, and other content that instigates negative discourse.
  • Do NOT use trigger words such as ‘quarantine’ or ‘isolation’ or ‘Covid-19’.
  • Do NOT discuss content related to China’s game industry policies, opinions, news, etc.

I see this as them wanting influencers to focus on their game, instead of using the game as a platform to wade into these other topics that focus on the country they happen to live in. And this being an election year in the US ,and the Right having spread wild conspiracy theories about China for years now, them not wanting any of that stuff to overshadow their art doesn’t seem all that crazy of a take. Basically they are saying they want influencers to talk about the game and to leave politics to /c/politics.

Oh and this is of course only sent to influencers, so just people they are giving the game to for free. The rest of the world (including influencers that buy their own copy) are of course free to do whatever they are legally allowed to in their jurisdiction.

Edit - I just want to add an edit after reading the IGN article someone linked above, that I am not siding with or defending any of the gross things coming from people working at this studio. And I guess this would come down to if people can separate the art from the artist, which I personally struggle with in many instances.

Jaderick,

The use of “feminist propaganda” over “misogyny” seems very deliberate.

tja,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, because it seems the studio doesn’t have any problem with misogyny

TimLovesTech,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

Oh for sure. I do wonder what part the Chinese government takes in shaping the wording of “exports” like this too.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

None, Azur Lane chinese is completely different and censored from Azur Lane’s JP and global versions.

kazaika,

I might give them the benefit of the doubt and say its a translation issue

Maggoty, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

So a video of the game overlaid by a feminist manifesto?

Etterra, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

Well now I wish I was an influencer so that I could get paid for giving China the middle finger.

FeelzGoodMan420, (edited ) do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

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  • StoneyDcrew,

    Edit: downvoted for not wanting to pay attention to stupid controversy about video games? Weird…

    It’s one thing to live peacefully in ignorance. I get it. it is exhausting keeping track of every shitty thing a company does when it’s so much easier at the end of an exhausting 9-5 shift to avoid news and play your games guilt free without thinking about who it’s hurting.

    It’s a completely separate thing to brag that your ignorance somehow makes your way of life superior.

    People caring about these issues, and sometimes leading to actions being taken because of that, all makes the gaming industry, or to be hyberbolic; the world a better place.

    It’s fine to avoid news on controversy and just blindly enjoy games, but don’t lie to yourself (and others) by pretending that it is a good thing.

    Coelacanth, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    The dev has a storied past^[1] of sexism and misogyny, so this shouldn’t come as a surprise. The COVID stuff is amusing but unsurprising considering it’s a Chinese studio.

    TimLovesTech,
    @TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

    Reading through that made me feel gross. It does seem to be acknowledged by women in China as a cultural issue (as well as globally online).

    Sexism is, and continues to be, a global problem. But the difference, as both Zhong and Monica F. pointed out, is that the Chinese government and overall cultural attitudes continue to actively discourage women and their allies from fighting back. There’s no one telling harassers “no.”

    turmacar,

    This feels like the second round of this going around as the AI articles / lazy sites pick it up.

    It’s a doc ‘sent’ to one guy who had 12 followers on medium before this started blowing up. It was edited after it was sent out to be the real marketing email of the company instead of a gmail address. The doc is still owned by that gmail account, which isn’t typically how companies operate.

    I guess they’re getting their viral moment so good for them for generating content?

    AmidFuror, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

    Are analogies using A.A. Milne characters OK for describing the game?

    Rentlar,

    Oh bother…

    NocturnalMorning, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

    I was excited to play this game until I saw this. Now I kinda don’t want to play it.

    Rentlar, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage

    The guidelines are also likely in place to avoid mention of previous reports of misogyny at the studio. Posts from Game Science CEO Féng Jì including sexualised and misogynistic language were reported on in 2020, while IGN also reported on the studio’s history with sexism.

    Lol, a Streisand effect here.

    rickdg, do games w Black Myth: Wukong studio requests influencers not include "feminist propaganda" or Covid-19 references in coverage
    @rickdg@lemmy.world avatar

    excuse me wtf

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    🐰

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