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MangoPenguin, do gaming w Pirating games you own?

I would say that’s not pirating from an ethical perspective. If it’s actually legal with current laws may be another story.

My viewpoint is I’ve paid for the right to play the game, where I get it from doesn’t matter.

Haui,
@Haui@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You hit the nail on the head. We really need more ethics and less laws in our lives (or the laws must be more ethical).

blindsight,

Piracy is effectively legal in Canada, for downloading. ISPs can’t share your private details without a warrant from the courts, and the courts have rejected mass John Doe lawsuits to unmask users.

Plus, infringement for private use has a maximum penalty of $5000, but could easily be set by the first case creating court precedent at 3× the retail price of the pirated media (punitive damages are usually capped at 3× the value of the good, in Canada.)

That means that going to court would be incredibly expensive, could only target single individuals, and would likely set a precedent that they can only get $60 in damages for a $20 movie. Not going to happen.

So, piracy is effectively legal in Canada, for private use. Just don’t be stupid and profit from piracy.

DmMacniel, do gaming w What are some game genres / styles you like that aren't being made anymore, or are being mde but not very often?

Rhythm Games like Guitar Hero, Band Hero and DJ Hero. Those were fun.

columbiatch,

There are still plenty of them: DJMAX, Muse Dash, Spin Rhythm, Hatsune Miku Project Diva, Beatmania. Also there are tons of them on mobile.

Domiku,

Check out Clone Hero! I’m away from my computer, but there are archives that let you import all of the Rock Band and Guitar Hero songs. You can use/mod old controllers or even 3D print your own.

sincle354,

You might be surprised to hear that Konami, famed for focusing casino machines, was actually mistranslated on also focusing on arcade machines. There’s still a whole rhythmgame scene, but unfortunately it’s mostly centered around Japan. That’s where DDR, beatmania, Gitadora (the series Guitar Hero/Rockband ripped off) are, including newer series like DanceRush and Maimai and whatnot. If you ever visit the higherscale independent arcades, you might find some unsanctioned imports with some even emulating the online functionality (with gacha, ofc…). Otherwise, your only hope in the states is Round1, which host official imports, and D&B which only has DDR.

To add on to the other commenter, check out Osu!, ADOFAI, Rhythm Doctor, Hifi Rush, and a whole bunch of apps if you don’t want arcades.

kelvinjps, do gaming w What game mechanics do you love and hate?

puzzles mechanics in games that are not about them.

Nanokindled,
@Nanokindled@beehaw.org avatar

I’ve been whining to everyone in earshot about all the puzzles in remnant 2 hahaha

SpoopyKing,

Or puzzles that are completely esoteric or unintuitive. Just replayed some of the Myst games, and it’s like “oh ok I was stuck on this for 30min because the lever was on the other side of the map and there was literally no indication that it was related”. That’s just artificially inflating your game’s difficulty, and it’s lazy puzzle making. Boooo

SeaJ,

The Myst series of games had an unfortunate amount of unintuitive puzzles. Most games in that era that included puzzles did.

RickRussell_CA,

I’m looking at you, DiMA from Fallout 4 Far Harbor

insomniac_lurker, do gaming w What game mechanics do you love and hate?

I love fast travel, warp gates, teleporting and anything that makes it easier and faster for me to get from Point A to Point B.

“Scenery is pretty.” Don’t care.

“Look at the extra content.” I’ll look if I want to. Don’t force it.

While I enjoy casual and relaxed games, taking forever to walk to where I want to go is neither casual nor relaxed. I wanna be where I wanna be in game and don’t pad on the gameplay hours with slow transport options.

JackbyDev, do gaming w Pet peeve, games that won't let you save

I hate when folks ask for this and assholes say “people will just use this to save scum, don’t cheat.” As if working adults with children should be able to dedicate a whole hour totally uninterrupted.

Psythik,

Also, who cares? It’s your game; play it however you like. I mean, isn’t the whole reason why people play video games is to have fun? If save scumming is your idea of fun, I say scum away.

Liz,

The problem being that a lot of people don’t actually know what it is that will make them happy. Winning is good, right? Yeah, but not if it’s too easy. Being to save the game state at any point makes a lot of games much too easy to be any fun. And while you might argue “well just don’t save all the time,” people are also bad at creating their own handicaps to increase fun.

Yes, there are exceptions to every generalization (see: OSRS Ultimate Ironman) but by and large there’s a reason why the most popular kind of games are set up the way they are.

You ever play Monopoly Go? Straight-up not fun because it’s basically impossible to lose.

StantonVitales,

Winning is good, right? Yeah, but not if it’s too easy

That’s how you feel about it, though, not an objective thing everybody feels the same about. I absolutely cheat whenever I’m finding a game too difficult, and I assure you, I’m still enjoying the game. I don’t know what people get out of what I find to be the extremely infuriating act of repeatedly failing over and over until I finally get it right, but I have not ever felt the sense of accomplishment I’m told I should feel after finally beating something I struggled with. I feel angry and like I wasted a bunch of time when I could have been enjoying something more fun.

I’m just trying to have a good time, not compete with myself or prove that I can learn just the right way and right time to hit certain button combos or whatever.

Liz,
  1. The too-easy levels of notfun are very far away from the too-hard levels of notfun.
  2. Different games are for different styles of fun and for different people. Heck, some games are more like walk-through stories than actual games. If the game is too hard for you to enjoy, then that game just isn’t for you, that’s all. Let other people have their difficult games and find a different one to enjoy. When I played Monopoly Go and found it boringly easy, I didn’t complain that they should make it harder so I could enjoy it, I just recognized that I wasn’t the kind of player they were targeting and found something else to play.
probably,

These are subjective statements though and different people want different things. And difficulty variation can broaden the audience while not really changing the game. Sometimes I love a fight. Sometimes I want a story. Sometimes I want to couch coop with my youngest kid and he struggles with some games that he otherwise loves (looking at you Cuphead) that an easier mode would totally fix. And he absolutely loves Sonic, but the originals would be unplayable for him if not for modern saving and non permadeath. Or emulation with save states and cheat codes.

Why are you trying to convince people that if a game is too difficult or long periods between saving doesn’t work for them then it is their fault and not that of the game design. That’s a weird stance to take. If someone designed a car that was generally very nice but with the gear shift next to the passenger seat door, would you say that is just a car for people with super long arms or would you say that was a poor design choice that is going to massively limit an otherwise nice car?

Liz,

This is more like you complaining that some cars don’t come with automatic transmission options. Sorry buddy, some of us like sports cars and having an automatic transmission option would devalue the very concept of what that particular car is.

I still haven’t beaten Super Mario Brothers. I’ve gotten very close, but I choked on the final Bowser multiple times. I’m not mad at Nintendo for that. I’m not even mad at myself for that. I had loads of fun playing Super Mario Brothers and being able to save would lower the value of the game.

I don’t understand why you’re insistent that all games need to cater to your desired difficulty level. Some games are made for you, some games are made for other people. Chasing the widest audience possible is how you end up with bland art, be it games, movies, social media platforms, or any other thing people enjoy.

Look, you said it yourself. Different people want different things, and what some people want is fundamentally incompatible with what you want. So, you get a different set of games than they get.

StantonVitales,

This seems to act like games and their default difficulty options are commandments carved in stone when they’re not. If I find a game to difficulty to enjoy and then find it enjoyable by cheating, that’s what I’m gonna do.

JackbyDev,

I know what will make me happy and it’s not being forced to sit for a full hour through a rogue like just because of whiny goobers complaining to the devs so they don’t implement save and quit.

nlm,
!deleted4210 avatar

Pretty much this. And if they’re worried about that just make it so you can only save and quit?

arcrust, do gaming w Good singleplayer games without any story?

Factorio. All about letting the factory grow.

I also started playing wizards of legend recently. It takes maybe 20 minutes to get through the tutorial, then it’s just game. I’m enjoying it so far

Smoke,

Oh no there’s a stoty all right. It’s the story of thinking you’re in Castaway, then finding out you’re actually in The Lorax…as the Once-ler.

PanaX, do gaming w Where are all the good stealth games?

Yeah, you should reconsider Dishonored and Prey. Especially at how cheap they are on sale.

CoderKat,

Dishonored was the first thing that came to mind when I read the title, too. OP, if you haven’t played it, check it out!

As for others…

  1. Skyrim and Fallout aren’t exactly deep stealth games, but stealth is hands down the most popular and arguably most fun way to play. Sneaky archer is a freaking meme.
  2. Far Cry games all favour stealth as well. While you’re totally allowed to go in guns a blazing and it’s frankly more effective sometimes, the game does reward stealth and is clearly designed with it in mind. Silencers are magic, you can distract enemies, can lure wildlife to attack, smoke bombs, knife combos, “death from above”, etc.
  3. The Metro series isn’t entirely stealth, but a lot of human enemy sections are meant to be done with stealth and I recall it being actually very difficult if you’re not stealthy (you die fast). I also recall the stealth feeling more realistic in terms of detection time. Finally, there’s something extra fun about being stealthy in a very dark post apocalyptic subway tunnel. Much better atmosphere for it!

As a final side note, the way OP described assassin’s Creed sounds like the older games. They might like some of the “middle” games like Unity more. The games that came just before Origins (Origins and later are very fun games, but the stealth is no longer the focus).

ZeroEchoplex,
@ZeroEchoplex@lemmy.ca avatar

I also thought of Dishonered first when I read the title. Love how you’re given the flexibility to complete each level however you feel like playing.

Resolved3874,

I’m pretty sure it’s possible to completely beat the game without killing a single NPC as well.

ursakhiin,

There’s an achievement for it.

CharlesReed,

I don't quite remember how I played Metro 2033, but I do know that I played so much with Metro Last Light to get that stupid 'kill no humans' achievement that whenever I play it now I can practically zoom through most areas with stealth. Same way with Dishonored. Both great games, I love revisiting them from time to time.

NightOwl,

With dishonored I wanted to be the ultimate ninja that leave no trace and had a lot of fun doing a clean hands ghost run. So challenging though, since I didn’t know if I had been detected until the end of each stage when they show you your performance.

Karzyn,

I disliked Dishonored because the game tells you not to kill too many people or bad things will happen and then proceeds to make most of the items and abilities for killing people. You can kill some people, but it’s not clear exactly how many each level. I wasn’t really interested in spending tens of hours playing a game only to be told that I was a bad person who gets the bad ending. As a result I kept killing to a minimum and missed out on or barely used a huge portion of the items and abilities. Seemed like questionable game design.

Prey was great though. Not sure if I’d call it a stealth game, however.

morsebipbip,

The game doesn’t really want you to spare enemies. It’s just that there are 3 different ways to play the game and 3 different flavors of the story : low, mid and high chaos. I think you should feel free to massacre everyone, and then maybe start over a new game and try lower chaos !

ursakhiin,

I felt like this was the intention. Play through it having fun learning the mechanics and then follow up with a replay to challenge yourself.

Coelacanth,
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I love Dishonored, but I agree that it’s unfortunate more fun abilities aren’t compatible with Low Chaos.

It makes the High Chaos second playthrough more satisfying though, when you can finally unleash the whole arsenal.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Dishonored 2 remedies that problem significantly, playing non-Lethal is a lot more fun there than in the first game.

adam_y, do games w Are mods usually confusing as hell or am I just an idiot?
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

"If it was easy, it wouldn’t be a shortcut, it’d just be the way. "

Modding varies from game to game, but having been doing it for nearly 40 years now, I can say it has generally become easier in the titles that want you to and harder in the ones that don’t.

SplashJackson, do games w Tango Gameworks studio has been reborn, joining Krafton Inc

“joining”

notice how they never say, “we’ve been bought out!”

FelixCress,

This. And they will pretend to be happy until redundancies come.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

This cynicism makes no sense unless you’re completely unaware of the context of this studio.

FelixCress,

I am perfectly well aware what happens after acquisitions. Give it six up to twelve months and check again.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Are you aware that this studio was already fully shut down by Microsoft and this company swooped in to keep most of it intact? No matter what happens 6-12 months from now, it’s better than if they weren’t purchased.

conciselyverbose, do games w Would "suggest price" be a positive option for steam?

Wishlist vs purchase is already a signal that maybe you’d benefit from a sale. Seems like it’s enough. “Suggested prices” from gamers would be way too noisy to mean anything.

thebigslime, (edited )

Yeah I suspect the wishlist-discount-purchase nexus is sufficient and more reliable means to determine what the best price would be.

Deestan, do games w What games have you sunk the most time into?

Factorio for me. Steam has 3000 hours logged, but I played it for ages before getting Steam version so really no idea. Estimating 4000 hours total.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

Satisfactory for me. 2000 hours and counting

Sixner,

I feel like I would love this game, but I already have plenty of other games to enjoy I’m trying to hold off.

Lots of rimworld time though.

Deestan,

Rimworld! For me it is right after Factorio in playtime list if I filter out idle or semi-idle games.

Poopfeast420, (edited ) do games w What games have you sunk the most time into?
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

World of Warcraft by a huge margin. A couple of years ago, I went through all my characters, and added the /played time up. I think it was already over 10k back then, and I’ve played a bunch since then. Also, I often delete characters, so I can’t count those. My sub runs for another 10 days, so I might take the time to check again.

Next is probably Diablo 2, but that was 20 years ago, when this stuff wasn’t really automatically tracked.

On Steam I have two idle games at 800 hours, FF14 650h, both Nioh games 600h each.

Nythos,

Likewise for me.

I have upwards of 6k hours in WoW and my next closest games is Rainbow 6:Siege is ~500

pupbiru,

for sure wow… i remember in xfire days it logged like 20-25k hrs

… i literally have nightmares where my character is reaching out of a black void sobbing “please im so lonely come back and play with me”

fuck that whole game

Cocodapuf,

I played Wow for the first 3-4 years after its launch.

I had a part time job back then, but otherwise I was playing wow. At some point my /played time passed a year, after that I refused to look. I don’t know if it ever got to two years, but I fear it may have…

lorty, do games w Would "suggest price" be a positive option for steam?
@lorty@lemmy.ml avatar

Have a look at steam reviews then ponder how people would use it

kurcatovium, do gaming w What is your Game of the Year?

Disco Elysium

I know it did not release this yer, but I got to it now, so it is GOTY for me.

Kolanaki,
!deleted6508 avatar

I also finally completed the full story finally this year. I had always gone about 3 days in and started over trying completely different options lol

kurcatovium,

I got hooked, but I was like “what if I chose this option now?” all the time. So I started completely different character right after I finished. Got couple hours in, but… 1) it’s too fresh experience and I should probably give it a bit more time and 2) I wanted the new character to be this fascist, racist, egoist, alcohol and drug abuser, but damn. It’s so tough to play against some basic human principles.

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’m re-playing it right now, and it’s great.

kurcatovium,

I’ve played many different RPGs during my life, but Disco really is like nothing I’ve played before. Maybe, just maybe a little like Planescape Torment, but other than that? Nothing comes to mind. Which is unbelievable in this age, where most developers play it safe with basically sequels of successful games and new ones you barely can tell apart…

Poopfeast420,
@Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

While Disco Elysium is like no other CRPOG I’ve played, I have to disagree with your other point, because Indies exist with tons of innovative stuff in there.

kurcatovium,

True, but majority of non-entirely-indie devs do exactly what I said. Sadly some indie too.

Vodulas, do gaming w Balatro is rated PEGI-18 and Among Us inspires disgruntled people with medical needs. What other video games have been secretly eroding the very fabric of American society?

Balatro is E for everyone 10+ in freedom ratings. We don’t give any shits about gambling imagery over here (Yes, I know balatro is not gambling and the PEGI rating is BS).

BmeBenji,

Good Christian Americans would never go anywhere near gambling or gambling paraphernalia.

frezik,

Lol

Vodulas,

What about if you’re gambling for Jesus?

DdCno1,

Jambling?

Vodulas,

Jesus take the roulette wheel

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

(Jean Gambling)

Vodulas,

Is that gambling in a Canadian tuxedo or gambling with jeans? Every hand you lose your pants…

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Not familiar with what is meant by Canadian tuxedo, so gambling with jeans.

Vodulas,

Jean shirt, jean jacket, and jean pants is the Canadian tuxedo

SweetCitrusBuzz,
@SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org avatar

Thank you for explaining!

pupbiru,

well if it’s a church raffle or charity slot machines then that’s fine

VolumetricShitCompressor,

You wouldn’t roll a dice!

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

You wouldn’t steal a casino!

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