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simple, do games w What are some old games that are hard to revisit, because a more modern and superior version exists?

Honestly, Diablo 2. It’s a classic, it set the standard for the entire genre and it was a brilliant game. Playing it recently, it feels quite shallow compared to modern ARPGs and lacks a ton of quality-of-life features. Games like Grim Dawn, PoE, Torchlight 2 are way better.

Ashtear,

Action RPGs, especially the ones with a heavy focus on loot, suffer the most for me. Trying to play through Vagrant Story now is brutal. MP for fast travel!

AnimalsDream,

This is kind of the opposite for me. I didn’t try the original Diablo until long after playing plenty of more modern arpgs. While it’s very rough around the edges compared to current titles, I feel like it has something unique that later games lost - even D2. I think it’s the combo of your character feeling underpowered, like not much more than a normal person immersed in a world of otherworldly horrors; the way the darkness and aesthetic really comes together to create an atmosphere; and the slower, crunchier gameplay.

Pretty much all newer games put way too much emphasis on letting you play essentially a Marvel-style superhero who fills the screen with bright lights, and more more more numbers go up.

But then again I guess I have to admit I still spend more time playing the newer games.

grrgyle,

Diablo 1 is like actually scary. I love all those other games but they are farther on the Halloweeny/spooky/edgy spectrum, if that makes sense. I mean so was the original, but in that one I felt like an insignificant little mote, a pathetic ember of humanity, up against overwhelming evil.

The PoE aesthetic definitely comes closest to capturing that feeling. But like you said, it’s more of a power fantasy once you get going.

AnimalsDream,

Completely agree. I almost said something about PoE, but then I remembered how within a few areas explored I had quickly turned my character into a flying meat grinder who could bonk explosive materials out of monsters.

venotic,
@venotic@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Diablo I was indeed unsettling, the soundtrack really assisted in that feeling well throughout the game. The enemies are done well and the bosses are intimidating to boot.

Diablo II kept up the horror but you could tell the action overtakes the theme a bit, because you're clearing mobs of enemies.

Diablo III is completely all action than horror. I've got a character that just mowed through enemies with barely a thought so there wasn't much time to sit and think of the theme.

DoucheBagMcSwag, do gaming w Tetris

I am the man that arranges the blocks

That decend upon me from up. Above.

They come down and I spin them around

Till they fit in the ground like hand. In. Glove.

Tum,

I am the man that arranged the blocks

That are made by the men. in. Kazakhstan.

they come two weeks late.

and they dont tesselate.

so much for the leaders five. year. plan.

wieson,
@wieson@feddit.org avatar

My grandpa once told me a story

Of when he worked in the bycicle factory

And the delivery of bike chains didn’t come in

So for producing. enough. bikes.

They took the chains from the finished products

And brought the dismembered and the new bicycle. into. storage.

Another one on the list for the five year plan.

96VXb9ktTjFnRi, do gaming w Tetris

TIL Tetris is from USSR. Aswell as that the pieces in it are called tetrominos.

sudo,

Did you never play with sound?

can,

Response: What do mean? It plays the Tetris theme.

peteyestee,

That’s the users anthem.

can,

And here I thought I’d be fine not adding “/s”

9bananas,

it’s not the anthem, it’s a popular folk song ;)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korobeiniki

can,

I thought so.

umbraroze,

The first version I played was the Commodore 64 version by Mirrorsoft, which actually didn’t use the Russian imagery.

The soundtrack was an epic 25 minute synth prog metal odyssey.

Commodore 64 is a very cool computer.

Agent641,

Girl on date: “So, what sort of music do you like?”

Me: “it’s… Complicated.”

ArcaneSlime,

Dude this shit rules, thanks for informing me!

Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

Check out Gaming Historian’s excellent video on the creation of Tetris! youtu.be/_fQtxKmgJC8

WhoIsTheDrizzle,

This was cool as well: m.imdb.com/title/tt12758060/

samus12345, do gaming w Sorry little one. *clicks 'kick puppy' button*
krzschlss, do games w Your all-time favorite game? Let's discuss the best options!
@krzschlss@lemmy.world avatar

Sekiro.

Only hard until you start to understand the dance moves. Then it becomes pure nirvana.

After NG+7 I had to stop playing it and give some other games a chance.

moody,

I’m still surprised how well received it was, not because I disagree, but just because of the numbers. It’s currently sitting at 95% positive ratings on Steam, and that’s with 229k reviews, for a game that plays so different from what gamers expected out of FromSoft.

prole,

I was just reading some of the reviews on Steam the other night (because it’s my favorite game), and was pleasantly surprised to see that I was not alone in that view.

People who know, know.

NelDel,

Even when I suck at a boss fight it feels like I learn something new every time, such a good gameplay loop

nogooduser,

I got stuck on it and then stopped playing for so long that I feel that I need to start again. I do intend to start it again if I ever get the time to put into it.

prole,

Once it clicks, there is no feeling like it. Incredible game.

prole,

YES.

Sekiro is my favorite game ever and I wish they’d make a sequel.

It’s so good that it ruins other games for paling in comparison.

noxypaws,
@noxypaws@pawb.social avatar

I can’t beat Genichiro Ashina, but I think I’m going at him too early, but damnit I should still be able to!

PotentialProblem,

He’s one of the first hard tests. You just gotta keep throwing yourself at him until it clicks. I went the other way and did Lady Butterfly which had its own pain. You have to play aggressively. Hesitation is defeat and all of that

50_centavos,

Playing that now, just beat fake monk, next is the gorilla. Once the combat clicked for me everything made sense.

BedSharkPal, do gaming w What games have the most toxic communities?

Better yet, what games have the least toxic communities? Games are so much more fun when people support each other and are there to have a good time.

cosmicrose,

Warframe’s community is delightful.

Jimius,

The Talos Principle A community who share book tips on existential philosophy and the meaning of life. A theme in the game.

AmosBurton_ThatGuy,
@AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca avatar

Factorio. The worst criticism you’ll get is “your factory isn’t big enough, it must grow

Love the game and the community.

halva,

FFXIV is very nice in-game, probably the most welcoming and laid-back MMO community

don’t go on youtube or its main subreddit or ffxivdiscussion tho lol, they can be pretty vile

Antagnostic,

Deep Rock Galactic R&S

comfy,
@comfy@lemmy.ml avatar

Xonotic was great for me. Had a random player teach me to use the grappling hook mid-way through a CTF.

lime,
@lime@feddit.nu avatar

outer wilds. we basically just want new people play so we can watch them fall in love.

davel, do gaming w Stay strong this upcoming sale. The game you want but don't have temporarily licensed (AKA "own") is not going anywhere.
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

But my favorite macrotransaction casual game is Buying Games Despite Your Backlog.

masterspace, (edited ) do games w Gaming has a polarization problem

People are complaining about Avowed? What the fuck is wrong with them?

I’ve been too busy loving it to be online reading anything, honestly cannot fathom what their complaints are tho. Avowed has repeatedly impressed me by being more clever and nuanced than I was expecting a game to be, in writing, level design, and combat.

Is this more dumb gamer anti-woke hysteria?

Piatro,

Only heard a couple people talk about it online (that I trust to be reasonable) and they basically said it was fine but didn’t blow them away. And that’s fine but it makes for boring “cOnTeNt”.

PlzGivHugs,

From what I’ve heard, its mostly people expecting the game to be more dynamic - more akin to Skyrim’s varied gameplay systems or Fallout: NV’s story and quests. They’re going in expecting something with heavy RPG focus and getting something more action focused.

masterspace, (edited )

Skyrim’s varied gameplay systems?

It has stealth, it has magic, it has melee combat, it has ranged combat, it has dialogue options for talking your way through stuff, it has multiple ways of solving quest lines…

It’s basically Skyrim, if it was smaller and more focused, with better combat, voice acting, level design, and heads and tails better writing.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Obsidian getting dinged in reviews for making more focused games that don’t waste your time and don’t bet their company’s entire future on its budget and scope has been very frustrating to see.

ms_lane,

Because as it turns out, most people don’t want games like that, only a very small, very loud minority wants 20min ‘focused’ games.

You’re upset that a viewpoint you hold is not actually the universal common viewpoint you thought it was.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

They still average out to be very positive scores, so I don’t think we can say most people don’t want what they’re making, and no viewpoint is universal, so don’t put words in my mouth.

But you’ll see the same people asking for a more sustainable game industry complain about what they find when they see it.

taiyang, do games w Are modern Final Fantasy games bad?

X is around the time FF lost it’s main architect, Sakaguchi (technically sooner , but dev times I imagine it overlapped). Guys a class act that was with them since the beginning, but he started his own company after a falling out with the direction SE brass wanted to take things. He was the one pushing to always have life and death as main themes and kept certain other producers in line.

I always recall an anecdote on FF7, as him, Kitase and Nomura were working out story. Sakaguchi required a meaningful death in the plot. Kitase (who we can thank for FF6s second half) suggested the whole cast die except one who the player chooses. Nomura talked them down from that. FF7 was his baby (so much so that he’s the character designer and artist), hence why he’s so present on the remake. That said, they kept each other in check and Nomura gets really weird ideas (KHs being his lead, for example).

After Sakaguchi departure, 11 was modeled after EverQuest and had a newish team, 12 was written most by FFT scenario team but had a change mid devolpment midway (the SE brass wanted a plucky young protag, Vaan was late development), 13 was so overbudget that they had to make sequels to recoup costs, 14 1.0 was mostly old guard 11 people with no idea about optimization, 14 2.0 was Yoshida learning from WoW success (flaws and all) but adding “FF theme park” plus a great writing staff, 15… similar to 12 in changes mid production, but iirc it was the SE brass shoehorning bad ideas and plot required DLC, and 16 is Yoshida and his core team making a pretty solid ARPG but with some tedium due to his MMO roots (and if you like 7R you’d probably be ok with 16).

Anyone can like or dislike a game, so I’m just giving you the long range of production issues that are objectively damaging the experience. It’s ok to like flawed games. I know an unhealthy amount of video game industry lore, and the biggest thing I can’t even say because of an NDA. lol

(Bonus fun fact, FF6 was meant to end at the halfway point but was so ahead of schedule and funds they went ahead and created the second half. It’s my favorite FF lol)

A_Union_of_Kobolds, do games w Avowed made me scream to my doctor: “I am a wizard!”

There are NUMEROUS Tracey Jordan jokes just like this on 30 Rock

ashenone, do gaming w Clothes give me zero stat buffs, so I remain naked.

I’d say some clothes had stat effects. Left outfit gives +2 Charisma and -1 Dex. Right outfit gives -3 Charisma but short rests have the effect of long rests

Spacehooks,

It gives cold resist bonuses and increases movement speed due to body parts jiggling less. Also inventory expansion.

slazer2au, do gaming w Game Development

One day this joke will die.

DerisionConsulting,

It only being funny about 20 years ago.

sik0fewl,

You’re just upset that you lost.

slazer2au,

Na, it’s just stupid.

WatDabney, do gaming w What's your "this is totally fine and I'm going to have a great time" FPS (refresh rate). ?

I don’t have one.

I have a very simple process for dealing with all of this - I never check my framerate in the first place, so I never know what it is.

I just play games If there’s noticeable stuttering or lag then I maybe try to do something about it, and if there’s not, then I just play and don’t worry about it.

penquin,

That’s actually a good way of doing it. I used to be this way, but I don’t know how and why I started using a team’s built in FPS counter and mangohud. I’m going to stop using it so I don’t have to keep glancing it all the time. Thank you.

JackbyDev,

It’s not like I notice it more when I have a frame rate counter turned on, I’m just not questioning how bad or how often the drops are when I have it enabled.

PatheticGroundThing, do gaming w Why Steam can be considered a monopolistic platform?

I live in constant dread of the day Gaben kicks the bucket and Steam is carved up by bloodsucking profit-chasers

jsomae, do gaming w Don't forget to make a 2nd save file just in case.

Props to Animal Well developer, it doesn’t prompt you if you saved in the last minute.

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