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ECB, (edited ) do gaming w What game genre would you like to see more entrants in?

I’d like multiplayer shooters that put emphasis on clean visuals designed to transmit information as well as more emphasis on movement.

Even with all the hats, visibility in TF2 is a masterpiece compared to 90% of games. One team always bright red, one team is always bright blue. The maps aren’t full of noisy scenery and still look great.

Dark_Arc,
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Yeah… Diabotical looked like a promising update to AFPS (which is what I’d say you’re describing), but it didn’t change enough of the formula (I blame the weapon design choices) and it launched on EGS instead of steam.

ECB,

Yeah, I kind of intentionally avoided saying AFPS because unfortunately these days that tends to mean (like with diabotical) games which are desperate to be the most hypercompetitive aspects of quake. Duels or FFA aren’t really my thing, give me teams and objectives!

Perhaps unsurprisingly UT2k4 is one of my favorite of all time

Dark_Arc,
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Diabotical did do teams and objectives. I think what really needs to happen to bring the genre back to life though is for there to be a really good campaign tied to a really good multiplayer experience that brings in some new weapon design instead of the Quake meta weapons with minor tweaks.

UT4 was looking promising in terms of multiplayer before Epic killed the project.

You might like roboquest it’s a very recent game that’s not PvP but has a lot of AFPS characteristics.

IDK, kinda feels like we need idSoftware to do a new Quake with new story and new weapons even if they don’t call it Quake (or to release a DOOM multiplayer experience that is actually fun).

Mummelpuffin,
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Well, there’s another Quake 3 clone attempt every few years and every time no one cares. Diabotical made me especially sad because it shook the forumula up in some very smart ways and the Wipeout game mode needs to be stolen by pretty much everyone (and won’t be).

Mummelpuffin, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?
@Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org avatar

Sounds to me like you just don’t want to think that hard, which is fine, I usually don’t either. Half of the time I just play Doom .wads

BG3 specifically: It’s D&D 5e, so… yeah It’s gonna be complex.

Complex systems more generally:

The best way to learn about any complex system is to bite tiny chunks out of it and ignore the rest, even if you know stuff is interconnected. You’ll never learn everything at once, so don’t try. Eventually you get bored with the little bubble you’ve carved out for yourself so you move over and learn about some other bit. You don’t even need to care about whether you’ll understand everything eventually.

Maestro, do gaming w Steam Sale Games
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I'm debating whether to get "Total War: Warhammer" (just part 1) and/or "V rising". They both appeal to me but I'm a frugal/patient gamer and the deals don't appear to be that special

toastus,

I am pretty sure Epic gave away TW:Warhammer at some point, so maybe check if you already have it.

Maestro,
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I don't sadly!

Kruulos,

TW:Warhammer 1 has the added bonus that if you like TW:W games and in a few years buy the second Warhammer you can ‘merge’ the campaigns in to a bigger campaign called Mortal Empires. You can play all the factions (and DLCs you own) from both games in that campaign. Same applies to Warhammer 3

Renacles, do gaming w Cyberpunk dlc sucks. 10 side missions and like 5 story missions for 30 bucks.

Are the missions long at least or is it something like 6 hours total?

cradac,

Check out howlongtobeat. It takes about 20 hours to complete main + side content. OP is just a really salty poster - take a look at his comment history.

averagedrunk,

So I went and looked. OP seems like a very unhappy individual. I found traces of the below plus a lot of the “whiney entitled gamer” archetype. I sure hope they find happiness someday.

It’s Easy so it Sucks

It’s Short so it Sucks

Unpleasable Fanbase

“Stop Having Fun” Guys

apolinariomabussy,
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TIL tvtropes has those tropes. I only knew about the Broken Base page. I am so keeping those for reference.

averagedrunk,

My favorite is Stop Having Fun, Guys. Broken Base hits too close to home for too many franchises I enjoy.

lemillionsocks,
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Lol a new monthly issue of a comic can cost about $4-$6, breakfast at a cheap diner can get $10-$20, a 2 hour movie can be $20+, and of course there are $60 video games selling that are less than 20 hours long. Its really funny how undervalued videogame entertainment is.

scrubbles, (edited )
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I like “cost per hour” which is what you’re getting at.

  • Movie at the theater: $16 total.
    • $8/hr
  • drinks with friends, at 1 drink an hour for 4 hours
    • $7/hr
  • Dinner out, decent restaurant 40/person
    • 20/hr
  • Cyberpunk dlc, $30, 20 hrs to beat
    • $1.50/hr

Yeah I’d say that’s a pretty good entertainment value per hour compared to other leisurely activities for me. I apply this to most entertainment things and it does help. I find comparing things to going to the movies is the best, if it’s more per hour than a movie in a theater than no it’s probably not worth it. Those stupid $50 slingshot rides? Nah.

sederx,

50% fetch quests. If you use the teleport points you can finish this in half a day

Skipping the dialogues of course,which are dogshit acting anyway.

MaxPower,
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50% fetch quests

I have just played it through. What you are saying is 100% incorrect.

sederx,

Half the quest are literally go there talk to this person and come back or some variation of it.

aksdb,

So … like real-life? You can abstract everything to the point that it looks trivial.

sederx,

are you for real? XD the sidequests are boring, that is not ok since its the main content of a 30 bucks game

aksdb,

That’s subjective. I play through the game the third time currently and still enjoy it.

sederx,

then say " i personally liked it because of X" what was that stuff about real life is boring? XD

aksdb,

I criticized your chosen abstraction. “go there talk to somebody and come back” is basically the definition of most interactions. That describes “going shopping”, “going to work”, “going to a customer” and in extension describes almost every quest in every game. That discriminates nothing of value.

sederx,

ok

Exec,
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Skipping the dialogues of course

Why are you skipping the dialogue in an RPG?

sederx,

As I said,because the acting is dogshit. I played bg3,can’t go back to this shit

Exec,
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Okay, so you basically reduce the game’s content because you nullify major sections due you not liking it then claim it doesn’t exist? In the end all RPGs are based on the variations “talk to someone” with action being the second thing. I wish you don’t ever start playing Final Fantasy 14 which has like 60% of the content are cutscenes and dialogue.

sederx,

If they are good I don’t mind

kebabslob,

RPG

Where?

Sharpiemarker,

How do you define a role playing game?

You’re playing as a person in an alternate reality.

You have character stats and builds.

Someone else is in control of the overarching narrative (you can’t just decide to become a plumber for example).

kebabslob,

Stats matter, role matters. RPG ended once nomad, corpo, and the third thing converged onto the linear story

Don_alForno,

Stat blocks don’t make an RPG.

Part of the definition is that you in fact play a role. This means making decisions from their perspective as if you were them and their world was your reality. Any game that doesn’t allow you to make informed, meaningful decisions isn’t actually a role playing game.

Naturally, video games can’t really give you total freedom in that regard, as any option you can pick needs to be anticipated and coded by the developer. But there are candidates that fit the requirement somewhat more and those that definitely don’t.

Cyberpunk, while being a fun experience, doesn’t really give you a lot of meaningful choices, at least not in the bigger quests, especially not the main plot. Most often different dialogue choices only lead to slightly different answers and the same outcome. You can’t decide to rat Panam out to Militech when stealing the tank for example. You’re not really playing the role of V, you’re watching their story play out and maybe deciding what to do first and last.

CDPR have their own inhouse example of a better RPG to compare against.

kux,
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tbf the fast-forwarding way you can skip dialogue and just read the subtitles without missing anything is one of the best things introduced in this game

Stillhart,

Are you fucking kidding? You should put this in your OP so everyone knows to completely disregard your post. You skip all the dialogue in an RPG and then complain that it’s too short and the missions are just fetch quests?

This has to be a troll post…

sederx,

I wouldn’t skip it if it was good,I read of course but I’m not gonna listen to bad acting.

ashamam,
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A very successful troll post as well. Would have thought people were smarter than that these days, especially in the fediverse.

Lizzy_Wizzy, do gaming w Steam Sale Games

Been grabbing any vr capable games I can. Squadrons was 2 bucks so it was hard to say no. Also grabbed both mirrors edges for 2 bucks each.

Powderhorn, do gaming w Steam Sale Games
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Chants of Sennaar is on sale. Found out about it here.

I suspect there’s a limited target demographic, but I was a linguistics major for a time.

Sabata11792, do gaming w Steam Sale Games
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I picked up Bonelab. Going to play it as soon as I'm home from work. I just hope it won't cost me $300 in controllers.

averyminya,

Damn, I just bought it the other day but only put 31 minutes in, hopefully I’ll be able to get a refund. That $9 goes a long way on a Steam Sale!

Sabata11792,
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Got a good hour and a half in before my battery died. I spent a bit too long in the arena and now I'm sore.

averyminya,

Haha sounds like a success!

Faydaikin, do gaming w Steam Sale Games
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Just got ‘Metal: Hellsinger’ It’s pretty fun take on the Doom-like Shooter genre.

Also got ‘Dredge’. Very chill, while being a creepy lovecraftian fishing game.

Both games are really good, if a bit short. But for the discounted price, the length of them is just fine.

averyminya,

Thanks for reminding me of Hellsinger! I played the demo but forgot to wishlist it!

comicallycluttered, (edited ) do gaming w Steam Sale Games

Huh, didn’t even realize it had started.

Taking a look at my wishlist, and seems like I’ve got enough in my wallet to snag a couple of heavy sale games purely from all the cards I’ve sold on the marketplace.

May not get anything, though. Got tons of other shit to play and I’m not aching for anything in particular, although Charrua Soccer and Kopanito All-Star Soccer might be options because I want some good old fashioned arcade football and they seem fun enough.

Oh, and Shadow Gambit and Desperados 3, mainly because getting them now is one of the last opportunities to actually have the money go directly to Mimimi (the developers), who are shutting down end of year (which at least was their own choice and not because some publisher/holding company fired them).

Edit: Oh, I might get one of Frogware’s Sherlock games. Don’t know what the consensus is on the newer ones.

stargazingpenguin, do gaming w Steam Sale Games

Not exactly hidden gems, but I finally bought Stray. Also decided to pick up Xenonauts. I can’t decide whether I should grab Phoenix Point though. I keep eyeing up Terra Invicta too, but I’m almost positive it’s going to be a bit too much micromanagement for me to enjoy it.

Deconceptualist, do gaming w Steam Sale Games

Meh. I’m seeing a lot of prices that aren’t even that close to historical lows. e.g. Mass Effect Legendary was $10 somewhere recently but now it’s $12 on Steam (though I’m not giving EA any money for it until they fix the stupid launcher for good on Steam Deck).

Prototype is like $4 though, might snag that if I don’t already own a copy elsewhere.

BmeBenji,

palpatine voice do it.

Prototype is among the most fun open world games to just screw around in. Right up there with Marvel’s Spider-man and Just Cause 3

ampersandrew,
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One of the worst protagonists in all of video games, but it is also a lot of fun.

Deconceptualist,

Some others:

  • Cloudbuilt, currently $6.99, lowest $2.99
  • Dead Cells, currently $ 14.99, lowest $11.99
  • Tropico 5 Complete, currently $23.81, lowest $9.99
  • XCOM 2 Collection, currently $11.88, lowest $6.99
Lojcs,

Steam reviews for prototype aren’t very positive

six_arm_spider_man, do gaming w Steam Sale Games
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I snagged a bunch of Williams pinball tables already. Very excited to be able to play No Good Gophers in the comfort of my own home.

May also finally pull the trigger on Cyberpunk now.

MrGerrit, (edited )

I was tempted to buy some tables for pinball FX but I already have all available tables for fx3 and it feels like I’m keep buying them and they release a new version of the game/engine so I have to rebuy them again for the better experience…

six_arm_spider_man,
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I get that. I didn’t rebuy anything I already have. I have tables scattered across all 3 versions of PinballFx out there and it’s super irritating.

spriteblood,

FWIW I can't speak to the pre-2.0 update but I'm having a lot of fun with Cyberpunk 2077. Solid AAA game, and it seems like they hammered out a lot of the performance issues from earlier in its life.

hornedfiend, do gaming w How are you all playing these insanely complex games?

Have a look at Dwarf Fortress too. It could melt your brain.

wintrparkgrl,
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I read the title thinking about DF or crusader kings. Nope, deep rock galactic. Wut?

Aslo rock and stone

ModernRisk, do gaming w Steam Sale Games
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Unfortunately not at all. I was excited for Persona 5 Royal and was prepared to purchase it again (got it on PS5). Wanted to play it with a Trainer for fun.

However the discount is meh for an rebuy, it’s like €35(?). Was more hoping for €15-20.

spriteblood,

I'm waiting for them to remove Denuvo DRM before I buy. I'd love to play it on PC with higher resolution (and hopefully framerates) but that DRM is a dealbreaker for me, unfortunately.

ModernRisk,
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If they remove Denuvo, I won’t buy it very honestly. The community I’m in should say enough hah.

But yeah, you’re right. Best thing even for legit players is Denuvo being removed.

DoctorButts,

P5R is mildly tempting even though I also own it for PS4. I think I will pass on it until it goes under $20. I also want to hang onto my gaming cash in case Persona 3 Reloaded ends up being legitimately good.

ModernRisk,
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I’m very curious as well about Persona 3 Reload! I’ll wait a few months after it is out to see the reviews and overall game.

Romanmir, do gaming w Steam Sale Games
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Just picked up Kenshi… becasue I’m a masochist.

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