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InEnduringGrowStrong, do games w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation
@InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works avatar

I can’t understand people trusting Meta in any shape or form.

ISolox, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller

Another only digital console: ew.

Gyro in an Xbox controller: W

sugar_in_your_tea,

I wish they’d make the drive an optional add-on that you could buy later if you decide that digital only isn’t for you, instead of using it as product segmentation. But that would be pro-consumer, so not gonna happen.

Tronn4,

They should make it HD DVD drive compatible 😁

insomniac,
@insomniac@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or at the very least let us convert our disc licenses to digital.

sugar_in_your_tea,

That’s problematic because you can resell disks. I suppose they could sign disks independently and then only allow one digital owner, but then you’d need a formal process every time you resell, or worse, disallow reselling, and the cost for producing disks would go away up (not to mention returns would be a headache).

Poiar,

Fuck no.

I’m not getting an external disc drive. It will only end in tears.

I’m going all PC, Nintendo, or PS5 if Xbox goes all-digital.

I thought the selling point of consoles was supposed to be second hand games being cheap

sugar_in_your_tea,

Another benefit of having an external disk drive is that you can replace it if yours goes bad. I’m not sure what’s going to “end in tears,” it would work just like any other USB device, you plug it in and the console could load games from it.

But yeah, an all digital console makes no sense to me, unless it’s an interesting form factor like a handheld or an arcade cabinet. So the only console I have is a Switch, and everything else is on PC.

UrPartnerInCrime,
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was all for physical copies for years. And I get why people still would be because they have massive collections. But honestly now I’ve got the disc drive ps5 version and it hasn’t been used at all. Granted I only play like 3 or 4 games at a time for a long time, but every game I’ve bought has been digital.

Plus, your point of being able to replace the drive is huge (to me atleast) because every console I’ve had the drive went first; they were also super out of warranty. So I get why people want built in drives but it’s just one less port that’s going to breaks that also less and less people are going to want or need.

Lastly cause im like weighting a thesis or something haha but I bought a 4tb external hard drive that’s plugged in the back of the ps5 that holds everything I could want if the internet went dark. And I can throw that in the microwave incase of a solar storm so

sugar_in_your_tea,

Will that drive still work on the PS6? Will it work in 20 years? Can you buy more games after a Sony has shutdown the digital store? Can you sell your digital purchases if you don’t want them anymore?

Those are the kinds of problems physical media solves.

I buy digital media on my PC and physical media on my consoles, because PC games aren’t hardware specific whereas console games are.

Corkyskog,
@Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works avatar

I fear more and more games will become like BG3, digitally exclusive. I asked for it for my birthday and was told the game didn’t exist for PS5. I was confused, as I most certainly have been reading reviews, then I found out it’s only digital and thats why no one saw a copy.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, it’s too bad they don’t have a physical release, but it is DRM-free on PC, so game preservation is totally not an issue.

MrScottyTay,

Ps5s next model is reportedly going the external disc drive route

deafboy, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

Now add a touchpad, and you got yourself a steam controller! The ability to dim down the LED indicator would also be nice.

lazycouchpotato,
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

The LED dimming feature was added to both the console and the controller a while ago.

support.xbox.com/…/how-to-configure-night-mode

Mandy, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

we already have a oblivion remaster, its called skyrim, skyrim special edition, skyrim alexa edition, skyrim vr, skyirm fuck you give us your money edition, skyrim very special edition, skyirm legendary edition, skyrim anniversary edition

BloodSlut,

Dont forget Skyrim Space Addition (i enjoy Starfield but i have to be honest here)

Mandy,

ah yes, apologies

Knusper, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

An Oblivion remaster in between the Skyrim re-releases. Getting creative here…

xinayder,

An Oblivion remaster made in Skyrim

owait, that already exists, Skyblivion is a thing

pzyko, (edited ) do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

And what about that free next gen update for Fallout 4 that Todd announced last year as coming in 2023 and never has been mention by Bethesda ever again?

maxprime, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller

Wow finally gyro support. That’s the biggest info nugget for me.

lazycouchpotato, (edited )
@lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world avatar

The PS3 had gyro with its Sixaxis controller in 2006. Not sure what took Xbox 17 years.

Edit: After reading certain comments, it seems that The Verge could have misunderstood the use of the accelerometer. It appears to be for the “lift to wake” function rather than gyro.

MentalEdge, do games w Meta is shutting down three Oculus games without explanation
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If Echo Arena wasn’t safe, then neither is anything else.

Jimbo, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

Holy shit, it looks like skyblivion is getting kinda closed to finished finally and then this

BloodSlut,

Skyblivon will likely be higher quality tbh

SkyezOpen,

Skyblivion and skywind are fan made and will be infinitely better than any remake/remaster from Bethesda.

dangblingus,

Look at Enderal. A stand alone Skyrim mod that people (who’ve played it) rate much higher than Skyrim.

tal, (edited )
@tal@kbin.social avatar

Heh. Porting Skywind to an Oblivion remaster might make sense.

It'd be interesting to see Tamriel Rebuilt ported to Skywind ported to this Oblivion remaster.

Need some kind of automated migration tools to help.

18_24_61_b_17_17_4, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
@18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder what the haptic feedback being a speaker is all about?

ArchmageAzor,
@ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world avatar

The vibrations a speaker can produce could be very useful for haptic feedback. If this is a speaker modified for that purpose with a thicker, heavier membrane I think it would work very well

Melonpoly,

That’s basically how haptic feedback already works. You can play music though the dualsence/ switch vibration motors.

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

I like when I mute my switch and the rumble makes the pokemon Screams.

MrScottyTay,

Think like Nintendo’s HD rumble. There’s certain patterns it can do that make it sound like… sound. In Golf Story for example, the hits with the club, with the hd rumble on, you can perfectly hear the skins of hitting a club even with the audio of the game down. It’s strange and great at the same time. The steam controller also used it for those turn on, turn off jingles you could have on, they also sound great.

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  • Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Haptic feedback has everyone. How does it differ in any form from other controllers.
    Pretty sure only the Switch and PS5 Controllers have something unique to vibration motors

    sugar_in_your_tea,

    I’m pretty sure they’re talking about the gyro, which Sony and Nintendo have had since the previous generation.

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Gyro is imo a bit of a gimmick.
    Same as the adaptive triggers from the PS5 and the HD rumble from the switch and the Kinect from the Xbox 360/One.

    They are all pretty cool but how many devs will actually implement it?
    HD rumble: Sure, there are party games but those are 1st party (usually) and what purpose do they offer besides the few haptic feedbacks?
    Adaptive trigger: I see two options. Racing or Archery. Maybe the odd platformer.
    Kinect: Basically a Wiimote and a WiiFit - the scale. It had a few neat titles but basically useless unless you like the swish around in the dashboard.

    So what purpose does the gyro serves outside of more expensive hardware the majority of devs will not utilize. Am I really missing out on something?

    SatyrSack,

    Gyro aiming makes a huge difference, and as long as the OS or whatever supports it, game developers have to do nothing extra to support it.

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I have a SteamDeck…Maybe I should try it at least.
    But I honestly can’t see myself using it with something like Halo Infinite or Doom Eternal.

    But true: If the OS does itbas a full implementation, no extra work.

    SatyrSack,

    Those are exactly the types of games that most benefit from gyro controls. You still use the right joystick to look around like normal, but then you also have gyro to make fine adjustments on top of that.

    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    Wrong.

    MomoTimeToDie,

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    Ouya

    MomoTimeToDie,

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  • PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    Goalposts moved.

    Aielman15, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new controller
    @Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

    So MS has predictably decided to abandon disc-compatible consoles to push GP sales (and bank on the MS Store).

    I only bought the Xbox One S because of the backwards compatibility program. Going disc-less would kill the vast majority of my existing Xbox 360 library, including titles that are backwards compatible but cannot be purchased on the store anymore (such as Prince of Persia 2008, Ace Combat 6, and many more).

    No thanks.

    tsz,

    Ok but it’s exactly what I want.

    SuiXi3D,
    @SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

    Meanwhile I haven’t bought a physical game in like, a decade.

    AnonTwo,

    Can't you just continue to use your Xbox One S for older games though?

    edgemaster72,
    @edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar
    AnonTwo,

    He already has the console though, he doesn't have to buy a new one.

    TheMorningStar, (edited )

    Digital is the future, pal. When’s the last time you saw a gaming pc with a disk drive?

    And it’s not like they’re taking the physical options away.

    Molecular0079,

    I feel like the situation is a bit different for PC no? There’s a history of backwards compatibility since forever. Yes PC game stores like Steam are all digital, but there was never a chance that the store would just close down when a generation was over, unlike in the console space.

    lustyargonian,

    When they are not making disc less consoles, they are making game less disc, either way the point of discs has been pretty moot on Xbox side of things. Halo Infinite and even Starfield are just licences on a disk, and I doubt that’ll be changing soon even if they add disc drive to the mid gen refresh or add a detachable disc drive. Only Sony and Nintendo are somewhat keeping physical media alive right now.

    I hope EU intervenes and makes console makers allow alternate stores on the consoles just like they’re making Apple do that for iPhone, and make the consoles truly PC like, if they’re all becoming all digital.

    dojan, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster
    @dojan@lemmy.world avatar

    We can’t make anything new. Have the same old game in a new package.

    Kolanaki, (edited )
    !deleted6508 avatar

    To be fair, that’s all Bethesda’s games have been since Oblivion. And I’m not just talking about the plethora of Skyrim re-releases. None of their games are really all that different from the formula they laid down with Oblivion.

    dojan,
    @dojan@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah. It’s “The Bethesda game.”

    BioWare and Gamefreak have the same issues. Always the same games, but with slightly different gimmicks.

    I’m glad for people that enjoy it, but it doesn’t work for me.

    Psythik,

    And then when they do make something new, they have to go and put the most boring story they could come up with in it.

    GoodEye8,

    I actually wouldn’t mind an older game in a new package. I love seeing old movies remade (if they’re well done) and I would love if we could do the same for games. There are some really great remakes like Black Mesa, System Shock, Final Fantasy 7 (though I guess the jury is still out on that one considering it’s split into multiple games that haven’t been released), Demons souls, Resident evil etc. I think a lot of Morrowind fans would salivate over the idea of getting a Morrowind remake that contains the entire province of Morrowind and not just Vvardenfell (+ Mournhold and Solstheim), as long as it stays true to the feeling of Morrowind.

    What I do mind are remasters. That’s just slapping a new coat of paint on an old game. Remakes (especially good ones) take effort and will feel fresh, remasters however are pretty much just cash grabs. Considering Oblivion is supposedly getting a remaster I have zero interest in it.

    paultimate14,

    Hilarious thing to say about a studio that literally released a new game in a new IP this month.

    dojan,
    @dojan@lemmy.world avatar

    Honestly more commentary on the state of gaming in general with rereleases happening all the time. Bethesda did release Skyrim like five separate times.

    But it’s not just Bethesda. Final Fantasy is getting remakes. Persona 3 is being remade. Blizzard is working on rereleases. The Resident Evil games are being remade. Like hasn’t resident evil 4 been released three times now?

    Xanvial, (edited )

    Skyrim rerelease doesn’t really change anything, I don’t even think it cost Bethesda much to rerelease it. Your other listed games are remakes made from ground up. It’s like comparing Indie games and AAA games in term of development

    paultimate14,

    There’s a good mixture. Some of the games I listed were literally just ports to he new hardware. Some were complete remakes. I’d say most of Skyrim lies somewhere in-between. It’s the base game, plus the 3 DLC’s, plus however many officially-sanctioned mods or platform-specific changes like for VR, Alexa (lol), or Switch. The re-release and different edition names are trying to set up boundaries and market the amorphous blob that most mod-heavy PC games are to console users.

    paultimate14,

    This isn’t anything new though. How many different platforms has Super Mario Brothers been playable on? Or Sonic 2?

    The best games of every generation get brought to the next. Whether it’s older stuff like Super Mario All Stars or the various Sega Ages and Classic collections. Most great PS1 and PS2 games saw release on the PS3, either digitally or in various physical collections. Tons of PS3 games have been re-released on PS4. Despite no backwards compatibility, there’s only a few PS3 exclusive titles left stuck on that platform. I don’t even know how many WiiU games are left that have not been ported to switch yet: that might be in the single-digits.

    I don’t see how Skyrim is much different, but for some reason the Internet loves to hate it Skyrim and Bethesda in particular. Don’t get me wrong: they’re a giant soulless corporation. But there’s so many other corporations that have had way more consumer-unfriendly practices. Re-releasing a game on multiple platforms with new content added, usually at a pretty good price, just seems consumer friendly to me.

    elshandra,

    For me, I don’t mind that they re-release tesv on whatever potato they can fit it on, it’s that they keep doing this for over 10 years, but where tesvi? Maybe they got grrm writing it.

    tal, (edited )
    @tal@kbin.social avatar

    It's not as critical for Bethesda's series, because the stories don't intertwine, but one good reason to update some series is that the games span a really long period of time, to the point where only players who grew up with the series will have played the whole thing. Otherwise, players can only play the later games in a series.

    TonyTonyChopper,
    @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

    It’s the Oblivion formula on a slightly upgraded Oblivion engine

    BlackEco, do games w This is Microsoft’s new disc-less Xbox Series X design with a new gyro controller
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    That new cylindrical Series X looks like a Wi-Fi router lol

    Appoxo,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Fridge and Router. Perfect.
    Now we need what? An oven?

    warmaster,

    Buttplug Thumbdrive

    SatyrSack,
    PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

    Looks like one of those Levoit Air Purifiers.

    Nfntordr, do games w Microsoft documents leak new Bethesda games, including an Oblivion remaster

    Here’s a remaster with new fancy lighting and effects and shit but same crusty old gameplay!

    caseofthematts,

    $80, please!

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