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Twinklebreeze, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies
@Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world avatar

Sony can’t make a good movie to save it’s life. I’m amazed they can make good games still. Every other division is hot garbage.

inclementimmigrant, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

This is absolutely 3dfx level of screwing over consumers and all about just faking frames to get their “performance”.

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  • Fluffy_Ruffs,

    Welcome to the future

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

    What if I’m buying a graphics card to run Flux or an LLM locally. Aren’t these cards good for those use cases?

    daddy32,

    Except you cannot use them for AI commercially, or at least in data center setting.

    TastyWheat,

    “T-BUFFER! MOTION BLUR! External power supplies! Wait, why isn’t anyone buying this?”

    caut_R, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

    My last new graphics card was a 1080, I‘ve bought second hand since then and will keep doing that cause these prices are…

    Don_alForno,

    I’m still using that 1080Ti and currently see no reason to upgrade.

    DoucheBagMcSwag,

    FF VII rebirth will require an RTX 20

    but I think that’s down to lack of optimization

    newthrowaway20,

    Rebirth also says it requires 12 gigs of vram, my 3080 is crying.

    SaltySalamander,

    Still using a 1080 Ti and I definitely have lots of reasons to upgrade, but I'm not willing to spread the cheeks that wide.

    ChicoSuave, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies

    Starship Troopers exists so any video game movie adaptation will be compared to it. Unless Paul Verhoven is directing, it is a big uphill battle to win any comparisons.

    And it’s Sony, so, good luck? They can’t seem to understand what makes a movie interesting to want to watch. They can’t cut a good trailer but their actual ability to produce and execute movie production is just bad. They can’t make a comic book movie that isn’t produced by others.

    clay_pidgin,

    I wonder if they’ll go with acclaimed producer/director/asshat Uwe Boll?

    vane, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

    More Shenanigans. Moooore !

    geneva_convenience, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)
    @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml avatar

    By rendering only 25% of the frames we made DLSS4 100% faster than DLSS3. Which only renders 50% of the frames! - NVIDIA unironically

    ZeroHora,
    @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml avatar

    You living in the past, rendering 100% of the frames is called Brute Force Rendering, that’s for losers.

    With only 2k trump coins our new graphic card can run Cyberpunk 2077, a game from 4 years ago, at 30 fps with RTX ON but you see with DLSS and all the other crap magic we can run at 280 FPS!!! Everything is blurry and ugly as fuck but look at the numbers!!!

    unknown1234_5, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies

    why can't they just let the games be games

    Cris16228,

    Tbh a movie/anime/TV series about Horizon is something I’d probably say “wow that’s cool” but nothing much. This only because I love HZD and HFW

    Just like Nier got their anime recently. I still have to watch it but I kind like the idea

    KingThrillgore,
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    Money

    jadedwench, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies

    Movies nobody asked for.

    Zoomboingding,
    @Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

    HZD actually has a fantastic story and a great setting. With some recent successful game movies, I can see this one actually being good. But does Sony have much of a track record here? Uncharted was bad.

    N00b22,

    Gran Turismo was mid as wel

    Cris16228,

    This! Loved both games and can’t wait for a 3rd one and I’m okay with a movie if it’s well made but Sony… Ugh

    TheFeatureCreature, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)
    @TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

    No thanks; I’m good. Still feeling the sting over buying my 4080 Super last spring. Also it’s doing me just fine for my work and for games.

    KingThrillgore, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)
    @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

    Two problems, they are big ones:

    1. The hardware is expensive for a marginal improvement
    2. The games coming out that best leverage the features like Ray tracing are also expensive and not good
    frezik,

    Nvidia claims the 5070 will give 4090 performance. That’s a huge generation uplift if it’s true. Of course, we’ll have to wait for independent benchmarks to confirm that.

    The best ray tracing games I’ve seen are applying it to older games, like Quake II or Minecraft.

    lazynooblet,
    @lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

    I expect they tell us it can achieve that because under the hood DLSS4 gives it more performance if enabled.

    But is that a fair comparison?

    Poopfeast420,
    @Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    They’ve already said it’s all because of DLSS 4. The 5070 needs the new 4x FG to match the 4090, although I don’t know if the 4090 has the “old” 2x FG enabled, probably not.

    vane, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

    Nvidia Core i5.

    Blackmist, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

    They’re not even pretending to be affordable any more.

    VindictiveJudge,
    @VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

    Unfortunately, that’s the anti-scalper countermeasure. Crippling their crypto mining potential didn’t impact scalping very much, so they increased the price with the RTX 40 series. The RTX 40s were much easier to find than the RTX 30s were, so here we are for the RTX 50s. They’re already on the edge of what people will pay, so they’re less attractive to scalpers. We’ll probably see an initial wave of scalped 3090s for $3500-$4000, then it will drop off after a few months and the market will mostly have un-scalped ones with fancy coolers for $2200-$2500 from Zotac, MSI, Gigabyte, etc.

    MDCCCLV,

    Not really a countermeasure, but the scalping certainly proved that there is a lot of people willing to buy their stuff at high prices.

    nova_ad_vitum,

    The existence of scalpers means demand exceeds supply. Pricing them this high is a countermeasures against scalpers…in that Nvidia wants to make the money that scalpers would have made .

    SaltySalamander,

    No, it's a direct result of observing the market during those periods and seeing the lemmings beating down doors to pay 600-1000 dollars over MSRP. They realized the market is stupid and will bear the extra cost.

    b34k,

    The switch from proof of work to proof of stake in ETH right before the 40 series launch was the primary driver of the increased availability.

    werefreeatlast,

    Buy 800 of those or buy a house. Pick.

    Masamune,

    I can’t do either of those. I chose Option C, a hospital visit.

    neon_nova,

    Look at money bags over here. He can go to the HoSpItAl.

    merthyr1831,

    Nvidia is just doing what every monopoly does, and AMD is just playing into it like they did on CPUs with Intel. They’ll keep competing for price performance for a few years then drop something that drops them back on top (or at least near it).

    bitjunkie, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

    I’m sure these will be great options in 5 years when the dust finally settles on the scalper market and they’re about to roll out RTX 6xxx.

    frezik,

    Scalpers were basically non existent in the 4xxx series. They’re not some boogieman that always raises prices. They work under certain market conditions, conditions which don’t currently exist in the GPU space, and there’s no particular reason to think this generation will be much different than the last.

    Maybe on the initial release, but not for long after.

    Critical_Thinker,

    The 4090 basically never went for MSRP until Q4 2024… and now it’s OOS everywhere.

    nobody scalped the 4080 because it was shit price/perf. 75% of the price of a 4090 too… so why not just pay the extra 25% and get the best?

    the 4070ti (aka base 4080) was too pricey to scalp given that once you start cranking up the price then why not pay the scalper fee for a 4090.

    Things below that are not scalp worthy.

    SaltySalamander,

    The 4090 basically never went for MSRP until Q4 2024

    This had nothing to do with scalpers though. Just pure corporate greed.

    Critical_Thinker,

    I’m not so sure. Companies were definitely buying many up, but they typically stick to business purchasing channels like CDW/Dell/HP etc.

    Consumer boxed cards sold by retailers might have went to some small businesses/startups and independent developers but largely they were picked up by scalpers or gamers.

    I work in IT and have never went to a store to buy a video card unless it was an emergency need to get a system functional again. It’s vastly preferred to buy things through a VAR where warranties and support are much more robust than consumer channels.

    bitjunkie,

    Scalpers were basically non existent in the 4xxx series.

    Bull fucking shit. I was trying to buy a 4090 for like a year. Couldn’t find anything even approaching retail. Most were $2.3k+.

    Paradachshund, do games w Sony is working on Horizon Zero Dawn and Helldivers 2 movies

    I think both of these could be great movies, but could also be done extremely poorly (especially helldivers). I hope they get people who like and understand the IPs for these ones.

    Maalus,

    … All movies could be great or could be done very poorly.

    B312,

    Not really

    Critical_Thinker, do games w Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)

    The far cry benchmark is the most telling. Looks like it’s around a 15% uplift based on that.

    Subverb,

    About two months ago I upgraded from 3090 to 4090. On my 1440p I basically couldn’t tell. I play mostly MMOs and ARPGs.

    darthsid,

    Shouldn’t have upgraded then….

    Critical_Thinker,

    Those genres aren’t really known for having brutal performance requirements. You have to play the bleeding edge stuff that adds prototype graphics postprocessing in their ultra or optional settings.

    When you compare non RT performance the frame delta is tiny. When you compare RT it’s a lot bigger. I think most of the RT implementations are very flawed today and that it’s largely snake oil so far, but some people are obsessed.

    I will say you can probably undervolt / underclock / power throttle that 4090 and get great frames per watt.

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