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Bosht, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

Get fucked. After all the shit I’ve seen them pulling with Windows 11 they’ll never get a dime out of me again. I’ll ride my win 10 until it’s out of support then switch to Linux. Fuck monopolies, and fuck enshittification for profit.

MrScottyTay,

Isn’t steam about to no longer support 10?

Tetsuo,

No.

Couldn’t even find a rumor of it. It wouldn’t make sense for steam to stop supporting such a large part of their userbase.

MrScottyTay,

I’m sure on the game specs on the store it says steam will no longer support win 10 in jan 2025. Unless i misread and it’s it’ll only support win 10 and above.

Tetsuo,

Unless you provide a source I will consider your comment as FUD.

MrScottyTay,

I’m pretty certain it’s latter of my comment. Don’t know what FUD means though

PoolloverNathan,

Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt

Muehe,

Maybe you are confusing this with the news from a year ago that Steam doesn’t support Windows 7 and 8 anymore?

By the way MS-support for 7 ended in 2015, so that’s 9 more years of Steam support after updates from MS stopped. I’d count on Steam working on Windows 10 for years to come.

MrScottyTay,

Yeah i assumed this might’ve been the case, hence the last sentence in my comment

loudWaterEnjoyer,
@loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Don’t wait till support ends, it will make the switch more stressfull

60fpsrefugee,

SteamOS for pc can’t come soon enough.

Bosht,

Amen. I’ll trust that until Gabe dies and of course some shithead takes his place and ruins the company

jacksilver,

Steam already runs fine on Linux, you don’t need SteamOS to us the compatibility functionality, meaning anything you can play on the steamdeck already works on a Linux pc.

x00z,
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

To add to this;

Playing modern Windows games on Linux and SteamOS is done using Wine and Proton. Wine is available on almost every Linux distro and Proton comes* with Steam.

*You can use Proton outside of Steam but it’s quite hacky and not really needed.

AdamBomb,

Just install Mint Cinnamon. It’s super approachable and Steam works great on it.

Nibodhika,

Why do you want SteamOS though? Unless you’re making a Steam Machine there are better options out there for desktop usage.

slumberlust,

I plan to use zero patch until eol then go Linux. 0patch.com

ordellrb, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

This could be a snapdragon X handheld, and one day run an unofficial good OS.

Noodle07, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

They obviously mean steamOS haha

smeg, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

Key quote:

Microsoft is looking at combining Xbox and Windows experiences together — and that we should see changes this very year, rather than needing to wait for an Xbox handheld that might still be years away

So there probably will be an xbox handheld, but don’t hold your breath. In the meantime they actually are a little worried about how much SteamOS is showing Windows up.

UprisingVoltage, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

the best of Xbox and Windows together

I am beyond thrilled

!Big fucking /s!<

Luffy879, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

So, some time ago I saw a video about Microsoft about how they had gotten their OS so bad that now nobody wants to use it by always going all in into the newest big thing (Vr and win 10 mixed reality, tablets and win 8) and i think the same is going to happen here. microsoft will try to make their whole OS just like steamOS, and fail hardly at both the normal consumers and the handheld market

aluminium, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

I think the opposite is gonna be the case

random_character_a, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds
@random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

Are we getting another windows 8 without start menu again?

_sideffect, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

No more windows please, I’m sick of it.

LiveLM, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

The best of both is none of either

PushButton, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

Nice, we can be submerged by notifications and other annoying popups on a handheld now.

It’s exactly what I needed.

Do you want to pin this useless app I’ve installed without your knowledge on your screen?

irotsoma, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

This doesn’t make any more sense than Windows phones made. They required way too many hardware resources and power to run a system that is designed to do a ton of things on a ton of different types of hardware. Handheld hardware needs specialized OS optimized for the platform and I doubt this will do that. It will likely have a ton of RAM and processing tied up in OS activities just like windows phones making everything slow and/or battery life really bad, but still not be able to run a lot of the stuff that would make this all worth it. Better to start with a more modular system like the base linux kernel and add only what is necessary than to start with the idea of supporting a ton of software and sacrificing the real purpose of the device (handheld gaming) to do it.

Abnorc,

This holds true for other companies using windows on handhelds, but Microsoft has the windows source code. I think this means that there is potential for Microsoft to make a version of windows that really works efficiently, but they’d have to had learned their lesson from windows phones.

irotsoma,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

If that happens I’d be extremely surprised. They have been really against truly modularizing Windows because of the lack of documentation partly due to the push of “agile” methodologies mixing with top down feature pushes and the effort required to create something that would support Windows applications in a way that users would understand. There are also just too many applications out there that use too many features in unintended ways, including or especially their own.

regdog, do games w Microsoft is combining “the best of Xbox and Windows together” for handhelds

Nobody wants this

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@lemmy.world avatar

Game Pass subscribers and people who play games with kernel level anti-cheat do.

morrowind, do games w Marvel Snap is banned, just like TikTok
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

huh, had no idea it was made by bytedance as well

halcyoncmdr,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah. You might want to look into some other foreign owned companies as well. Tencent owns a metric shit ton of “American” companies for instance, I bet there’s several on that list that would surprise you.

morrowind,
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

Tencent I’m aware of, there was quite a bit of controversy about them a few years back

halcyoncmdr,
@halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world avatar

Tencent happen to own large portions of nearly every video game company on the planet to start with, and a ton of other large companies, 600+ of them in fact. Large enough positions to directly affect board decisions if they wanted to. And that assumes overt sudden changes and not more subtle things.

Voroxpete,

IIRC the reason for this is that China requires that games published there be published by entities that are at least some arbitrary percentage Chinese owned. So basically if you want access to that huge market - that loves video games - you have to cut a deal with Tencent or someone else like them.

CosmicTurtle0,

I recall that tencent had like a small stake in Reddit too. Like 10% or something like that. Or am I remembering wrong?

catloaf,

They invested money, I don’t remember hearing that it got them any share of the company.

ieatpillowtags,

That’s typically what you get in return for an investment. The only question is if it’s enough of a share to give control or at least influence.

shawn1122,

As of their last filing in September it is 10 to 12%

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

dear God, please let League of Legends get banned, it would be so funny

iAmTheTot,

It’s not made by Bytedance. It’s made by one company and published by a second, different company who is owned by Bytedance.

Zugyuk,

Not made by, the studio is “second dinner” the same guys that made hearthstone, but in their own studio.

masterspace, do games w Marvel Snap is banned, just like TikTok

Who cares. Find a new game.

LifeInMultipleChoice,

You care nothing of freedoms do you? I don’t use either of these apps but I still think it is outrageous to strip people’s ability to choose their actions because politicians are worried they can’t control enough of the media.

“Find a new game” is just “fall in line”

masterspace,

They’re not banning Mastodon, or the Fediverse, or EU based messaging apps.

i.e. the objection is not the US government doesn’t control it, but that the Chinese government does.

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