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Risk, do games w Epic Games reportedly hit by 189GB hack, including login and payment info

In the situation that payment details are leaked - I presume one must cancel the associated card?

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Hrm, depends. Usually in modern online payment systems it should be impossible for the debitor to have the CVC of the card and hence leaked information could not make actual payments from it, but it could spam the card’s number with bogus payments to continuously keep it being blocked.

In any case if you’re affected I would recommend asking your bank how to proceed, just to be on the safe side.

elvith,

On the other hand, when steam had a leak a few years ago (where you could see other people’s account details after logging in instead of yours) my credit card got exchanged automatically by the bank, as they saw that I had used it to buy games on steam - even though in this „leak“ only the last 4 digits were leaked and nothing more

webhead, (edited )
@webhead@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not a requirement. You can make payments without one though the odds of approval aren’t great. If the actual real card numbers got leaked, you need to cancel that card. Also if they actually leaked REAL card numbers, Epic is going to be in deep shit with the card brands.

This article has no real details though so we’ll see. I kind of doubt this is legit.

dai,

I guess the answer is money, but why would you do any handling of card details in-house. Having a third party process transactions passes to some degree ensuring security onto said third party.

I’d still doubt any risk of full card details being leaked unless the hack goes much deeper than just Epic.

Fredselfish,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

Good thing Epic doesn’t have my card information because I only use it for the free games. Now if this was steam I be worried.

themeatbridge,

That was my thought, too.

SuckMyWang,

But you’ll get free credit checks for a year so nothing to fear

Risk,

I’m not sure if I’ve ever entered mine either. I ought to go check…

Blackmist,

I can’t see any listed in the Manage Payment Management section.

I assume I never saved them, when I bought Outer Wilds years ago.

9715698,

It’s almost surprising, for good shitty EGS is, that they don’t makes you save a payment method to check out the free games.

HeyJoe,

For me I started using a service called Privacy a few years ago and haven’t looked back so far. It’s changed how I handle all online transactions. It let’s you create virtual cards that are either good once or forever and once it’s used by that merchant it’s tied to them. So if someone ever did try to charge you that wasn’t that exact merchant it gets blocked. You can set daily, and monthly limits as well and pause the card or close it whenever. So I would use this virtual card for the payment on epic and then this happens and all I do is close it out and open a new one. So far I did have 1 place that had my card charged from a place that wasn’t them. The cool part is you know who almost screwed you because of the card thats being used. It was a local pizza place and I called to let them know they probably got hacked.

jaykay,
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

You can’t sound more like an ad haha

HeyJoe,

My bad lol. It is really great though!

Jakeroxs,

One used to have a similar thing before they got bought out by Walmart and started dropping features 🙃

catloaf,

No, when you store your card, it doesn’t actually store the whole card details. It communicates with the payment processor and when the card is approved, it gets back a token that says “this card is valid”, so in the future they just have to send that token and the payment processor says “yup I know the card you’re talking about”.

At least that’s how it’s supposed to be. You’re really not supposed to store card info yourself.

TheQuietCroc,

My last role was in payment processing and this is exactly how we did it.

BURN,

Mine was too. We still had a couple systems using the old methods, but mostly had moved to the token system.

You also just get laid off? They took out ~50% of the payments department at my last job

TheQuietCroc,

Nah, got laid off last March.

mox,

That’s the ideal, but not always the case. Last time I read the PCI rules, merchants could (still) handle/store card details just as they could before the hands-off approach existed; it just required someone to attest that precautions were taken. I’m sure you can guess how foolproof that is.

mnemonicmonkeys,

At least that’s how it’s supposed to be. You’re really not supposed to store card info yourself.

Don’t forget that we’re talking about a company that took 3 years to add a shopping cart to their store

piecat,

Just don’t use a debit card?

Credit cards have all sorts of consumer protections if the card gets stolen.

Everblue, do games w Removed from sale: Peter Molyneux's Godus and Godus Wars, never finished

I just wanted a successor to black & white God damnit. What a letdown it turned out to be.

ChaoticEntropy,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

I remember all the marketing and promises for Black and White 2 that were never realised. It doesn’t feel like they really managed the first sequel, let alone another one.

Jerkface,

I’ve been trying out The Universim recently. It has a lot of the same ideas, but gets rid of many which I felt didn’t work. Most notably, there is no creature bound to your will. I think the game is better for the omission. Version 1.0 is slated for January, and is supposed to include interplanetary colonization.

DragonTypeWyvern,

That’s the whole point of Black and White though?

etchinghillside, do games w Paradox are "making adjustments" to Bloodlines 2's day-one vampire clan DLC plans, following backlash

Good to hear.

To save anyone from digging for more details – “making adjustments” was all the info that was given by a trusted source in a community message in their Discord.

notannpc, do games w Epic Games reportedly hit by 189GB hack, including login and payment info

cyberplace.social/…/112010182183098717

Trustworthy infosec folks seem to suggest that this ransomeware group is full of shit. I suppose we will see though.

AwesomeLowlander, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell

If Frostpunk is their idea of a “narrative-driven, story-rich game”, I can see why they have concerns.

_cryptagion,

That’s not how anyone describes that game, and if they did, I’m sure it wouldn’t have been canceled. Frostpunk did pretty well.

bizzle, do games w No Man's Sky Orbital Update brings full ship customisation and a complete space station overhaul
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

Well, with ship customization this game is finished enough for me to play it again.

Stanley_Pain, do games w Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 has been delayed until late 2024 | Rock Paper Shotgun
@Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

These days I hail a delay as a smart move. Wish more devs/publishers would allow for this.

Boiglenoight,

There are so many games to play, it makes no sense to release crap unless you’re in it for making money. Then you can release whenever and someone somewhere will buy it. See MW3.

Stanley_Pain,
@Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think the last COD I played was when they were a WWII game back in '03 lol.

Boiglenoight,

Those were the good ones.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow, do games w Lords of the Fallen’s Steam reviews improve as performance patch lands, devs advise players not to use graphics settings “their rigs cannot handle”

Is it contractually obligatory for UE5 devs to blame the people buying their product for the shit performance?

GreenMario,

Hey some people over fucking estimate their shit tier rigs.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

But if your game runs like shit on the top of the line consoles too, then maybe the problem is the developer.

Only in PC gaming can they get away with blaming the customer.

Renacles,

The problem with PC is always going to be the amount of possible hardware variations, it’s difficult to make sure the game is well optimized for all of them.

It also doesn’t help that some people don’t understand that they need a good CPU as well as a good GPU and end up with a massive bottleneck.

iforgotmyinstance,

Idk, I’d really like to play this on my PS5 however the PS5 version of the game only runs at 1080p upscaled.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow,

Should have put a better GPU in your PS5 obviously

iforgotmyinstance,

AFAIK it’s poopy pants lazy behavior on the dev part. I can play it on my PC but I just wanted to sit in my living room.

Piecemakers3Dprints,
@Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world avatar

TV as additional monitor?

Storyteller,

Creation Engine devs like to do it as well. Seems to be a general thing in the industry

partial_accumen, do games w Eve Online developers CCP are being sold off, according to reports

CCP Games Inc made the following statement regarding today’s announcements: “Interested parties should contact CCP Legal and provide offer details as well as proof of financing in the form of account statements in PLEX or ISK equal or greater to the stated offer. No lowballs. I know what I got.” /s

athairmor,

Send me your game development company and I’ll double it! See my bio for details. You must follow the instructions exactly or you won’t get anything.

Nomad,

Its funny, then again ISK also means Icelandic krona

Rozz, do games w Minecraft Gets Major Visual Overhaul With Volumetric Lighting And Enhanced Shadows

Minecraft is the best-selling game of all time, but it’s looked pretty much the same for the entirety of its almost 14 year run

Usually games don’t change how they look no matter how long they’ve been out.

fdrc_lm,

Also people like Minecraft precisely for its comfy basic aesthetic and vibe in general

StupidOriginalName,

Lots of games get remasters. This is an optional visual update, but you don’t have to use it.

Walk_blesseD,

Hasn’t it gone through two or three major texture overhauls anyway?

yesman, do games w Frostpunk creators cancel "Project 8" and lay off staff amid concerns that "narrative-driven, story-rich games" don't sell

Why does capitalist reasoning always sound like a prayer to an angry god?

We consulted the oracle and it seems that the dragon is tired of corn. So we’ve hedged our portfolio with wheat and virgins.

Skullgrid,
@Skullgrid@lemmy.world avatar

because it’s made up. The stock has value because we think it does. Clap your hands if you believe!

shani66,

Because that’s literally what it is. Business courses are much closer to church sermons than actual classes. They don’t apply logic to things, they simply consult their already established beliefs for the path forward.

positiveWHAT, do gaming w Ubisoft is being sued over The Crew in a lawsuit that compares the server shutdown to a bumperless pinball machine

I feel like Ubisoft is like a European EA. But somehow worse.

Brunbrun6766,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

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  • Chef6652,

    Wow, why the hate sir?

    subignition,
    @subignition@fedia.io avatar

    The French are renowned for their cuisine, but Ubisoft doesn't know how to cook.

    Chef6652,

    I agree about Ubisoft. But them being French has nothing to do about why they are a terrible company (nowadays). I juste wanted to point that.

    Brunbrun6766,
    @Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

    Have you smelled a Frenchman?

    fartsparkles,

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  • Brunbrun6766,
    @Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

    leave it to the French to not know a joke when they see one

    mudstickmcgee,

    Comedy. English “hate” on the French much like the scandinavians “hate” on each other

    Anivia,

    Not just the english

    Don_alForno,

    “Why is EA the most hated American game company? Because Ubisoft is based in France.”

    AdmiralShat, do gaming w The Day Before studio say the game's downfall was thanks to "a hate campaign"

    The Last of Us 2 absolutely had a hate campaign long before it released, it was review bombed within minutes of release

    This game had everything on its side. All the youtuber who covered it the months before release were like “it seems too good to be true, but if it’s true it’ll be great”. Everyone wanted it to be good, everyone wanted it to succeed

    interolivary, (edited )
    !deleted5791 avatar

    Yeah I remember the “waaaa it went woke, Abby is trans” insanity

    Edit: no brain, it wasn’t Ellie

    AdmiralShat,

    It wasn’t her it was Abby, because she was buff they claimed she was trans. Then there was a sex scene with Abby and man and they claimed is was an unskipable gay male sex scene (it was skipable, btw, and it was hetero sex, but she’s got biceps)

    interolivary,
    !deleted5791 avatar

    Oh yes doi of course, that was just a brain fart. But yes exactly this, it was such a spectacularly gAmEr moment.

    TwilightVulpine,

    Can't help but feel some distaste for the idea that a mandatory gay sex scene is grounds for boycott, while most of them don't mind a mandatory straight sex scene in an M-rated game.

    I have my issues with TLoU2 but that one really brought the chuds out of the woodwork.

    interolivary,
    !deleted5791 avatar

    They take any presence of minorities as part of an agenda to, uh, I don’t know what exactly. They always screech about an agenda but I don’t think even they know what the agenda is supposed to be about.

    DmMacniel, do gaming w Space sim Squadron 42 is "feature-complete" and gunning for Starfield's lunch with massive new video

    Always remember: SQ42 is only 2 Years away (since 2016)

    Kusimulkku,

    Early Access when?

    Claidheamh,

    Original release date was actually announced as 2014 originally (during the 2012 Kickstarter), iirc.

    DmMacniel,

    Always. Two. Years. :)

    zik, do games w Among Us’ first new map in over two years brings beaches, mushrooms and toasty marshmallows

    Can we talk about Rock Paper Shotgun’s horrible dark pattern with cookies? It took me a couple of minutes to work out how to reject all cookies, and even then I’m not sure I did it correctly.

    I thought there were laws about the number of clicks required to reject cookies?

    GlitterInfection,

    I miss Rock Paper Shotgun. What’s there now is a corporate zombie built out of the corpse of a formerly wonderful gaming site.

    Artyom,

    Sounds like the system is working as designed

    AProfessional,

    I hate it, but it was two clicks. Manage cookies -> Save & Exit. They all defaulted to reject for me.

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