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sentient_loom, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

I found my next game to not buy.

lechatron, do gaming w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour
@lechatron@lemmy.today avatar

CEO wants more money, more news at 11.

Joking aside, length of a game is a terrible metric for price. I always consider how much time I spend playing a game compared to the price for the ROI. But a lot of games just add filler content that is copy and paste missions.

adam, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

I enjoy low priced games as much as the next person but I’m inclined to agree. At least a little.

In terms of currency per hour some games are outright bargains when you compare to a cinema trip and yet the triple A’s cost more to produce than your average film.

Candelestine,

He’s certainly correct, at the purely analytical, quantitative level. But if humans were purely analytical and quantitative, then laissez-faire capitalism would function perfectly.

The problem arises from games having more costs than just monetary though. The cost of a film, asides the ticket price, is a couple hours of sitting on your ass. The cost of a video game, willingly paid by every gamer, is actually hours of practice with hand eye coordination, various video game systems and conventions, time spent learning that specific game, etc etc. You can see, objectively, this is a lot of “investment” required. Which is one of the big reasons not everyone is much of a gamer.

The executives should be factoring this cost in too though, because your subconscious does when it decides how much “fun” you’re having at whatever you’re doing right now.

olosta,

Well you have to take the price of the system you run the game on into account. If you spent hundreds of dollars to buy a game and a console (pc gaming is even worse), you need a lot of content to reach parity with something like a cinema ticket or a Netflix subscription.

This hobby is expensive, particularly because it’s main demographics is children or cash strapped young adults. Maybe it’s good value if you spend hundreds of hours on a few games, maybe take-two is feeling that it doesn’t get its fair share from these hundreds of dollars, but they should not be deluded into thinking it’s cheap for the customer.

WindyRebel, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

Interesting. I wonder how they’d feel if the hardware and software they all used to make these games were charged the same way? Or how about the cars/public transit and roads they take to get to work?

Good idea Strauss.

LazaroFilm, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Hour of original content would be fine with me. So all those GTA V should be free…

typhonaut, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

Coming from a franchise who rakes in mountains of cash from GTA Online… The problem with pricing per hour is that there’s no measure of quality. You can create a junk game that took 200 million to develop and has hundreds of hours of gameplay. I also thought the point about movies was a good one. An excellent movie with big actors and a gigantic budget is usually priced the same

Kolanaki, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour
!deleted6508 avatar

Then that would mean all those games that only had 40 hour campaigns that sold for $60 were $20 too expensive.

them, do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

There’s a concept that should be familiar to a business owner called value based pricing where you charge based upon a (usually service) product’s perceived value rather than the cost of producing it. Make a game worth giving time and money to then you’ll have success. Fill it with pointless content to pad out the hours and it is neither worth the time nor the money

De_Narm, (edited ) do games w GTA 6’s Publisher Says Video Games Should Theoretically Be Priced At Dollars Per Hour

Sure, great idea, why wouldn’t I want more low quality padding content in my games? It’s not like they already have too much of it.

off_apparition, do games w ‘Alan Wake 2’ Complicates An Already Wild GOTY Competition

Totk

FooBarrington,

Bg3

SineSwiper,
@SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

People are sleeping on Armored Core 6.

FooBarrington,

It’s a good game! Though it does have a more narrow appeal than BG3 does.

Cethin,

I love FromSoft games. I still haven’t gotten around to AC6. It launched at such a bad time with so many other games coming out, especially if you have GamePass. BG3 came out about the same time (not on gamepass, but easy purchase), then Starfield (which was frustrating and bad, but still took time), Payday 3 (which is alright but flawed, and hopefully will be improved like PD2 was), and Cities Skylines 2. Notable mention to Counter Strike 2, while not doing anything that new for CS, it’s still the thing we’ve been waiting for for years. I still haven’t gotten around to it yet either, but patches are improving things so waiting is good.

OrgunDonor,
@OrgunDonor@lemmy.world avatar

I would be surprised if this doesnt take it overal this year.

It is my 2nd favourite game of the year, but I am very biased towards fighting games and Street Fighter 6 is so damn good.

There have been just way to many great games this year, and honestly dont have enough time(or money) to get through them all.

SnakeRattleNRoll,

Instead of a zelda game, they gave us mid legos and 10 fps. I dont understand how anyone thought it was playable.

Its an expansion for botw, at best.

Ilflish,

Not being playable is a bit extreme, it’s just boring and tedious, and steps back on its extreme design choices of the predecessor

SnakeRattleNRoll,

To me, the stutters down to single-digits made it unplayable. Good for those that perservered?

morphballganon,

If you want to disqualify games for quest-breaking glitchiness at launch, BG3 gets disqualified before TotK does.

SnakeRattleNRoll,

Meh, BG3 was playable for me. It might be a case of simply being able to throw more power at it, but im indifferent to the why.

At least I could experience one of the games.

Not sure BG3 is my GOTY either, but i dont work in the industry anymore so dont really need to be concerned with it.

simple,

As someone who almost 100% it with all shrines… Nah. Totk honestly didn’t take enough risks as botw and the new additions were disappointing. The sky islands were copy pasted many times with the same layout, the dungeons were arguably not much better than botw, and the depths all looked the same.

The game is also piss easy once you have enough hearts to tank hits. Still so disappointed I first-tried the final boss.

Still a good game, but 8/10 at best. In a year where much better games came out I wouldn’t even nominate it for Goty

arefx,

I haven’t played that yet but BotW is the most over rated game I ever played.

FoundTheVegan,
@FoundTheVegan@kbin.social avatar

100%

As a fan of the Ocreana and Majora, I was super disappointed with the same dungeon just copy pasted 4 times with basically no story or dialogue. It was a fine enough open world game I guess, but it wasn't a Zelda game.

brawleryukon,
@brawleryukon@lemmy.world avatar

BotW was great, but not if you were wanting a traditional Zelda.

TotK is hot garbage. They just took BotW and leaned way too hard into the whole “build silly contraptions!!1” thing that some fans were doing with BotW’s physics interactions.

Destraight,

What? That does not mean anything? Totk is not even a word

stopthatgirl7,
!deleted7120 avatar

It’s short for Tears of the Kingdom.

BudgieMania, do games w ‘Alan Wake 2’ Complicates An Already Wild GOTY Competition

Reject the idea of an absolute GOTY, normalize a Mt. Rushmore style "Best of the Year" selection.

Games can be great in so many different ways, many of which are somewhat exclusive with each other, that I've never understood the concept of saying that one was absolutely better than the rest.

ElPussyKangaroo,

Can I upvote this two more times please?

BudgieMania,

They won't let you, the fuckers. I bet they're pro GOTY

motor_spirit,

Big Choice got us by the balls again

motor_spirit,

Cheers, I hate choosing favorites

BudgieMania,

My go-to response whenever someone asks me what my favourite X are is "In no specific order..." followed by like 25 names

FooBarrington,

What is your favourite organ that pumps blood through your body?

Mr_Dr_Oink,

Who is your favourite smart arse?

FooBarrington,

Must be Pete, he’s a great and intelligent donkey.

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

This is the GOTY of internet comments.

TryingToEscapeTarkov, do games w ‘Alan Wake 2’ Complicates An Already Wild GOTY Competition

You can tell gaming has been mid for so long that we get a couple of ok titles again and they are like “there is no room for all these GOTY titles!!” lol

Ilflish, do games w ‘Alan Wake 2’ Complicates An Already Wild GOTY Competition

I’m about 13 hours in AW2 and it’s not a complication. This is one of the few easy choices to put up there. BG3, this and TotK even if it wasn’t my cup of tea. 3 last 3 have a bunch of choices but I would be very confused if AW was snubbed with some of the issues the other contenders have (RE4 is an exception to this, it’s risk is just that it’s a remake and now there is a concrete horror candidate)

echo64, do games w ‘Cyberpunk 2077’ Used AI For A Dead Voice Actor’s Performance, With Permission

With permission from the family. Not the owner of the voice, who can’t speak for themselves anymore, obviously.

Whilst I think most people feel like this is the one exceptional case where we will be okay with this, I feel like every exec is seeing it, and the community reaction to it, and saying, “So it is possible”.

scrubbles,
!deleted6348 avatar

And we get into why everyone is striking. We’re all okay for normal use cases like this, but execs are like “we’ll pay you for 3 hours of work, then build a model and then do 180 hours of voice from that model. And you’ll say thank you for the opportunity”

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

I wouldn’t want my family to make decisions for me after I die, and I think that’s even more true for actors.

“Can we use your grandpa’s voice?”

“No.”

“For fifty bucks?”

“Sure, take it”

Tempotown,

Who would you want to make decisions for you when you die then? Keeping in mind saying no is still a decision.

Aielman15,
@Aielman15@lemmy.world avatar

Nobody. I died, leave me alone and ask one of the thousand actors out there who are still breathing.

Stovetop,

I dunno, once you’re dead nothing else really matters anymore, does it? You’re not a person anymore, so why would your opinion matter? If my family can use my legacy to make money for themselves, I would just be happy knowing they’d be a bit better off once I’m gone. And if they choose to protect the right to use my voice/likeness after I’m gone, I’d prefer that they do so because of their own personal beliefs, not because they believe they have to do so for my sake.

Hadriscus,

It matters to society, in the same way funerary rituals aren’t for the dead, but for the living

DoomBot5,

Make a will.

AnonTwo,

I feel like that answer is for you and you alone, and not for actors in general. Personally I don't really see why I would be worried about this after I die (after all, I'm dead ), and if it helps my family a bit then it'd probably just make me rest easier if anything.

rimjob_rainer,

Well the person is dead anyway, it’s not like dead people care in any way.

Never_Sm1le, do games w The ‘Dota 2’ International 12 Prize Pool Is Historically Low
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

Valve had already announce beforehand that they won’t focus on the TI battlepass this year so this is something expected

Kraivo,

Yeah, because this year they don’t want to sell cosmetics or don’t want to make cosmetics to sell it.

ngcbassman,

I think the plan is to release all the cosmetic stuff after TI, so they don’t have to share the money with the pros. Probably they already know that in that way they just get more money

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