They could probably get away with a PS6 that’s a PS5 Pro raster equivalent, improved ray tracing, and a modern AMD CPU and a bump in memory. Whatever can be sold for $500 in 2-3 years. Switch 2 is the baseline.
Microsoft can be twice as powerful, unless they had a multi year string of incredible exclusives, they’re not doing better than this gen and
regardless they don’t do exclusives anymore
Improved ray tracing is key. We’re at a point where hardware improvements aren’t for selling games to end users, they’re for cutting costs for developers. Project managers don’t want to spend time and resources handcrafting lighting anymore.
We saw it before where making SSDs baseline didn’t necessarily always lead to a change in world design but certainly led to cuts in asset streaming optimization. Same with framerates.
After SCE increased their prices in EU and Aus to help offset the US tariffs, I doubt I’ll invest anything into the PS ecosystem any more. I’d rather redirect into PC gaming from here.
Feels like we’ve hit the point of diminishing returns where the console cycle stops making sense. Does anyone really expect to ever play a PS6 game they just flat out couldn’t make at all on the PS5?
This gen gave me the kick to leave consoles. Neither Sony or Nintendo seem that interested with me being a customer, constant paywalls and upsells while getting less and less in return. I’ll get the next 8-10 years of games through the ps5 after that I imagine everything will be on pc. VR is not my thing, neither is online or live service so I can get all the emulators without a monthly cost.
Some weird views in the article. Like comparing it to the price of the ps5 pro and will be lower. Of course it will be. It has to be since the price point of the average consumer will never buy it at that price. They need to get it back down to the $400-$500 range for it to work. Also saying the ps4 cutback on hardware compared to the ps3 may be true but it wasnt noticeable either. The jump between both consoles was huge and didnt seem like anything was sacrificed. That won’t be the case here since i doubt anyone will even notice the difference because games aren’t getting that much better looking anymore. They need to start focusing on features and other advantages to establish itself as a better option to having a PC.
I don’t see how this thing possibly competes with a handheld PC. It’ll play the same games approximately just as well but with a tiny fraction of the library, and unless something changes, online play won’t even be free.
The Vita had a shared library system where if you get the handheld version for free if you owned the PS4 version of games. I imagine they could do something similar to keep playstation users interested
That’s surely what they’re planning, especially since the architecture won’t be very different this time around, but that still pales in comparison to the value you’d get from a PC handheld for what will likely be an extremely similar price.
The handheld PC and things like SteamOS have crossed the moat that console games used to have as a defense. The PC is coming to the living room, attaching to your TV, and playing games controller-first. The question will be how well will those games play and will they be exclusive.
The other defense, exclusive games, consoles themselves have given up. PlayStation has been publishing to PC to make up revenues thinking that it’s safe because it’s not their competitor Xbox, and Xbox bet on gamepass (and has now lost the console almost entirely, hoping to make its money back via Windows licensure).
If this is true I’m definitely out. I am barely playing anything technically demanding on the hardware. Mostly older or indie games. The Steam Deck has proven that handheld PC couch gaming is more than enough for me.
Come to think of it, I didn’t even had to buy the PS5. It just catches dust and unlike the PS4 I didn’t get anything like Bloodborne aka something I could pump countless hundreds of hours in to justify buying it.
if you're not really there for it then sure, but i got a ps5 for ff7 remake, kh3 and ff16 and i personally think I got my money's worth. loved every goddamn second.
it helped that I got p5r and expedition 33 as well, what a beaut of a bonus they were
Them being told they’re timed exclusives isn’t really the problem being discussed though. Seems weird to invalidate a console having a game just because it’s available elsewhere. If you don’t already have a PC, a PS5 for it’s performance is way cheaper than getting the PC equivalent.
I’m just adding historical context that those games were exclusives. If them being exclusive meant “the ps5 has games” then timed exclusivity didnt really help in this case.
I take this as a comparison sometimes. Also the PS2 got five GTAs, Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories were released on PS2 too. The PS3 and Xbox 360 got two GTAs, and everything after got remasters. PS5 will probably get GTA 6, so GTA skipped the PS4/Xbox One generation.
There have been some great games with development times that long. But for crying out loud, if you’re not making a surefire success, make a smaller game so it’s less risky.
I’m playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance II right now, and it’s excellent. Baldur’s Gate 3 took 6 years, though they attribute a good portion of that to an Eastern European war and a pandemic. Given other side projects, it’s a bit nebulous exactly how long Indiana Jones and Great Circle took that team to make, but it was somewhere between 5 and 7 years, and I loved it. I’m not exactly a fan of Nintendo lately, but people sure do love Donkey Kong Bananza, and that team had been working on that game more or less since Mario Odyssey’s release in 2017.
Ahh, that’s a bummer. Hopefully she’s not too onerous about it. Some people don’t understand games as a hobby or down time activity but then are fine with tv/movies/books.
Nah. She’s right lol. Last month my PlayStation stats said I played 12 titles for 39 hours. So plenty of gaming to be had. The issue is that I’m addicted to humble bundles and have over 100 games there I’ve never played…
They just ported all the PS4 games and slap PS5 on them. I bought a PS5 and not single game I have on it you can’t also buy a 4 version. Except for Dead Island 2, and it was meh. I have not used my PS5 in over a year it just collects dust. With PC games I get all I need and more. But I have looked at new games for it and not impressed with the lineup.
It really does feel like this. And most of the new “ps5” games they also make for 4! Off the top of my head I can think of demons souls, ff16, ff7r part 2, and death stranding 2 were ps5 only and 3 of those are only timed exclusives
I don’t think that’s a bad thing, though. It’s not like I’d be bothered if someone with a GPU 5 years older than mine is able to play the same game on PC.
This is what consoles just should be. No longer locking games to specific generations, letting newer hardware run older titles better, and letting developers continue developing for lower hardware targets to include more people.
It’s because half the player base still only has the PS4, like myself. I just could never justify spending that much money on a console that can only hold like 8 games Anyways without paying a crazy amount for extra storage, when I can still play the same games on the console I already have. I was more than happy to spend twice the money building a decent desktop where I can play just about anything I want with way more freedom.
I bought mine for my girlfriend to play Hogwarts Legacy. I myself have played FF7, FF16, AstroBot and Expedition33. That’s twice as much games as I have played on the Switch2. And AstroBot is the only one of them you can’t play on a PC
I am. I grew up with the PS1 and I really liked the simplicity, ease of use, affordability and reliability of older gens, but the newer ones seem to have all the cons of consoles and none of the benefits.
I grew up with cartridges, so this is hilarious to me. With PS1, you had to put in a disc, close the lid, press the power button, wait for the logo startup sequence, then your game would start (assuming there’s not some kind of problem that kicks you back to the disc/memory card screen). Don’t even get me started on disc damage 😂
Now I’m a PC gamer with a humongous digital collection. Nothing gets damaged, and I get to keep all my games.
Same here, although even earlier. As a family of five Sony's horribly bad game sharing within the family if you have more than one PS5 (we do) has sealed the deal for us. I've just built up two Bazzite-based Steamboxes and that's going to be our couchgaming from now on.
Part of the “problem” is that the current gen launched basically at the height of COVID. People were distracted when it came out and studios took a huge productivity hit at a time when they would be pushing to get those games out.
But it is coming up on 5 years and console generations tend to be 6-8 years if memory serves. Considering how much work goes into prepping the hardware, it makes sense to see “leaks” now for what will likely hit shelves in the fall of 2027 or 2028.
But I think the bigger issue is that we kind of all know these are “just” computers and most games are multiplatform. Combine that with backwards compatibility and there really aren’t that many distinguishing games of a generation. Which is why it is a common refrain that this is probably the last “console generation” with the future being closer to PCs where you just have new hardware every few years and upgrade when a game you want needs it or you get bored.
This game is one of my all time favorites! The game engine is cool, love the story and it’s all its twists, and especially all the small hidden pieces of background info, like the alternate history you pointed out!
It also has some great puzzles and secrets hidden in areas that are interesting to explore every nook and cranny of. I feel rather clever for noticing things like “huh, this is a window, but this game has something called a ‘looking glass’… I wonder…”. And the verticality of a lot of these maps is so fun, giving you the possibility to approach enemies and puzzles the way you prefer (just like the Dishonored franchise, which I can greatly recommend to anyone reading this!).
I tried playing games like Tony hawk pro skater or racing games, but every time I’d turn I’d lose my balance and almost fall off the treadmill. So anything i could play had to be slow placed or not have a 3d camera.
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